You've just made me realize that I grew up in a struggle between regular catholicism and folk catholicism. As a kid my family went to church. I did Sunday school and all that stuff but as I got older, I started to question everything and that was the end. I felt lost for many years. I realized that I don't care about the church but I believe in the saints and in the traditions of my Mexican heritage. My mom still goes to church but she's the one getting the holy water and honoring la Virgen de Guadalupe. She's not into the church either. This video has made me realize that my reconnection with my spiritually is folk catholicism. I got my Virgen de Guadalupe candles, the holy water my mom gave me, prayers and doing research on the saints. This video has been a great help. I now feel I have something to work from
@Darlene Fimbres I've never actually given advice or recommended anything to anyone about this since I'm pretty private about it because I'm still trying to figure it out for myself but I'll try. La Virgen de Guadalupe/ Our Lady of Guadalupe, is a big part of the Mexican cultural identity. I feel like you've seen her plastered all over anything that's remotely Mexican in any type of media. A lot of catholic churches that have a big community of Mexican, and other Latin American people have a separate space for La Virgen. Sometimes it's an altar or maybe a shrine outside. December 12th is her feast day. It's a big day. You should definitely read up on her. As for ancestors, can't help you there. If you know the region your family is from try looking up information from that area. There's a lot of different regions with their own traditions and festivals. My parents are from very different areas of the country. My dad didn't really share about how he grew up. My mom did. He's older now and a lot more willing to talk about where he grew up and stuff. Also, my dad made sure we were at mass every Sunday but a lot of the family around us were like your family. They leaned towards Catholicism but never went to church. I'm sorry if this wasn't helpful. It's all I could think of.
I grew up Catholic, but was always drawn to witchcraft. I pulled away from my faith and tried just witchcraft, but it didn't feel right to me. I was having a bad day and listening to podcasts, when I came across one called the Jesus Witch Podcast by Lina El-Saieh Lee, and I realized that I did believe in my faith just not in the church itself, this vid really helped thanks so much!!
@@soothingsounds4464 Believing in God and Believing in what the Catholic church is different. I believe In a God, but not in the teachings of the church. I have faith that he is real. Faith doesn't come from the church, faith is a word we use to describe believing in something even if we have never seen, heard, felt, etc.
@@soothingsounds4464faith is given by God alone as a gift of grace. The church is the group of born again believers that follow the teachings of Jesus. We have access to God through His Holy Spirit that lives in us. The Holy Spirit is the one who helps us pray to the Father and Jesus is our intercessor to the Father. He is our only intercessor. There is no such thing as praying to saints who have passed on or communicating to them beyond earth. You will never find it in scripture and you will never find it in early church history. Praying to the saints didn’t begin until the 3rd to 4th century. It’s always been a sin worthy of stoning to communicate to the dead and do anything like witchcraft. It’s obvious throughout scripture. Anyone who ignores this is wise only in their own eyes as they create gods to worship of their own imagination who are really demons in disguise.
I think this just confirmed that this is the path I need to go on. I just did a huge circle back to catholicism and i'm starting to deconstruct why I hate organized catholicism, why it made me feel the way it did, etc. This and reading Mary Magdalene's bible just made me feel seen and like I was in the right place. Thank you!!!
I actually had this struggle for years! I’ve always been an eclectic witch, but I was always drawn back and forth between it and Christianity/Catholic beliefs and imagery. I missed the community and positivity associated with church, but I couldn’t get behind the belief in God. So I tried working with Greek and other mythological deities. But I didn’t really feel any connection there, either. I’ve been drawn to Catholic imagery and beautiful rosaries, so I looked into saints. Closest I got was Saint Brigid because she’s believed to be a Pagan Goddess converted to Catholic Saint because she was so well loved. Then, FINALLY, I returned to a Saint I had VERY briefly tried working with: Santa Muerte. And I FINALLY FOUND THAT FEELING THAT PEOPLE GET IN CHURCH. But I’m still allowed to be a witch, be the sinner and not feel inferior, and simply be me. I’m still an eclectic witch, but I’m an eclectic witch of Santa Muerte.
I agree with your statement but the Santa muerte is not a catholic “saint” who actually is not a saint at all , she’s a Mexican folk saint - which is different than being a saint of the Catholic Church . La Muerte is condemned by the Church and she is actually very dangerous to work with and is very wrathful of you don’t venerate her in the way she likes and she also has a habit of taking away your loved ones after a while if you get my drift , so just beware before you start working with her that it’s very dangerous .
@@soothingsounds4464that's evil. That's the opposite of what a saint is supposed to be, which is a friend we believe is in heaven and can join us in prayer and aid us, because they love us and want us to live the life God has planned for us
I was raised Baptist and my grandfather was a pastor. I strayed away after being hurt repeatedly by people in the church. I've been a witch since 2000. I'm interested in the saints.
It's funny hearing about the St. Joseph statue and selling your house. My mother always said witchcraft and magic was devil's work and hated when I'd even draw a star, but she practiced folk magic without knowing it. She didn't even understand why certain practices were done with saints. She just did them. She raised me to be a Catholic witch without realizing it.
This was a very eye opening video. I do not consider myself catholic but I believe in god. I would say I’m more spiritual than religious. I believe in light work, I do believe in some catholic ideals, as well as Buddhist ideals. I had bad experiences with paganisms and don’t feel comfortable with it. I didn’t know about folk magic and can’t wait to learn more! I believe in prayer and I also believe in things that the Catholic Church scoffs at. Figuring out where I belong is so hard. thank you for sharing your knowledge, it has already helped me:)
I need videos like this. Not many people talk about it. I'm not sure if I work with Saints but my mom seems to when she prays, even as a bruja. I usually pray to God but usually Guadalupe. We also ask angels help. I'm unsure what I am but I am a witch. I'm just still studying. I've experienced a lot and I'm unsure why I began this path but I got curious and saw a lot of the misconceptions people saw in witchcraft. Witchcraft is like a personality. Just because you see someone do something good, doesn't mean that they are good. There's good and bad in everything. There's also things that are in the middle of those two labels. I guess I stand in understanding all sides of things.
I’m a catholic convert as of 2018 and I stumbled upon folk Catholicism and it’s improved my faith so much! I love how you did this video. It’s soooo well done and explained well. Thank you so much for this video. 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
If you research the indigenous medicine of your area and the historic practice of herbalists and faith healersof your own families' heritage, you can develop your own traditions. At the end of the day, it is both our faith in God, our acceptance of the Nicene and Apostle's creeds and other components of our faith, and our brains that are the basis of our local Catholic practices. Herbology is ancient wisdom that was hard won by our forebears using the same trial and error as modern doctors, just with with fancy tools. I believe when we see things that are pro social, uplifting, peace making, justice bringing, and heart healing we are in the presence of the Holy Spirit, who will use every avenue available to bring us closer to God spititually and physically But we need to guard against getting arrogant, conceited, or undisciplined in our faith to protect ourselves from getting tricked by those who wish us harm, even if they don't realize that's what they are doing. Be humble, be confident, and pray. If it seems to good to be true, if it comes at too easy a cost, be wary. Individualism is not necessarily a Christian virtue, as such.
your completely unbiased and whole hearted acceptance of every individual's practice has been, and still is very healing to me. Thank you for creating that space for me and many other practitioners
OH MY GOSH! When you said the thing about burying the St. Joseph statue in the yard, I suddenly remembered that my grandmother and mother did that whenever they were trying to sell their homes! I never thought about it in a folk Catholic context before!
Ancient Roman houses were built with scattered shrines in alcoves, but there was often a main alter or shrine in the entrance courtyard and Rome. I would imagine that that author mentioned modern Italian architecture because that placement of religious areas/statuary probably crossed over when Rome adopted Christianity and created the Catholic Church. I really appreciate this video! I was raised Catholic, but did experience religious trauma, and was non religious for decades while searching for my authentic self. Since I've been on this path, I've thought I've left that aspect of my life in the past. However, as i struggled growing up, every time I prayed it was to Mary, never Jesus or "God". She was the one who comforted me, and was with me and saved my life. I've also been very strongly attached to St Francis of Asissi. I now have some ideas of where to start to bring them back into my spiritual practice. Thank you so much!
This is literally perfect timing for me. I've been thinking a lot about working with saints for weeks now but I've just been a little stumped. It's been on my mind so much today and I'm so glad this popped up in my notifications. Thanks for the great video!!
Catholicism is doing the paint by number exactly as presented whereas folk Catholicism takes that paint by number structure and lets you pick your own colors, does that sound right?
How did you say it so much better than I did?!? The fun part is - I know a lot of people who consider themselves strict Catholics, but when I look at their practice I see folk Catholicism. I wouldn't tell them that or sit there and tell them they don't know their practice, but the lines are so blurred that so many Catholics consider themselves "Good Catholics" but practice some level of what we would consider folk Catholicism.
I consider myself a catholic, not folk catholic, because I don’t consider my practice outside church teachings, but many others would say what I do is folk catholic. :) check out my podcast!
I'm a learning catholic witch from Indonesia, but I haven't done much spells to really call myself a full-pledge witch. I started my practice from tarot cards, and ofc, I consulted about it to a priest, and he said "go for it, it's totally fine", but I still got rejected by another priest. What you described regular catholicism and fold catholicism help me understand the difference between me and the church. I still go to church and right now I'm a sunday school mentor. I noticed that there's a difference between catholic here and catholic anywhere else in the world, which is the baptism. Baptism here you'll receive a name from a saint that your parent think is the best saint to protect/guide you, mine are St. Albert and St. Therese, which I would love to work with.
I appreciate your down to earth explanations. I am so happy to know that my beliefs are valid and a "real" thing. I just grew up in a Catholic Italian family and talking to Saint Anthony every day and other saints for specifics. I have seen the power of the rosary and have gained solice through novenas. I also do things that could be called Hoodoo. I never thought about these things as witchy until I used Saint Joseph to help get a house sold and was told it was witchcraft. (Yes! it worked within a week). Thank you!
You clearly put a lot of work into this! I admire you for putting this together even though it’s a very complicated subject. Was it difficult at first to get saints to work with you when you don’t speak to their version of God? I wonder if it bothered them at all? And I agree St Anthony is a real homie. My family always petitions him when we loose something, and he comes through every time.
Hi @SeremelaLinwe I pray to God you are doing well in your newness of the Traditional Catholic faith. I found many errors in her explanation of saints and Catholicism. I would highly encourage you to receive info and advice from one who IS Catholic and apart from new age/ witchcraft. The devil can use good and distort it which is what is being done here. God bless you.
I was entertaining the idea for a while, re-considering my stance on God and christianity and examining how working with my ancestors affects me. With this video you kind of helped me see the path way clearer than it was before, huh. Slavic folk practise with orthodox christianity sprinkled on it, it is then (I'm not saying "slavic folk catholicism" because here in Russia we were never catholic in the first place). Thank you, you helped me get my mind out of the gutter :D
Hey! I was raised rather liberally protestant, so I don't really have any connection to saints xD However my grandpa was a miner so he and my grandma kept statues and imagery of Saint Barbara around regardless. I've been playing with the thought of getting more in touch with that for a while now so this video is perfect!!!
Witches use practices that work. For me, using the Psalms and the rosary in my spellwork works. But I do not consider myself religious at all. Many witches would look at my practice and say, oh, you are a Christian witch. I do not consider myself that at all but I will say that I have healed some of my religious trauma. A few years ago I would not have considered using the Psalms in my practice, too much trauma. But today I do see more and more elements coming back because I use tools that work.
Happy you did a video about this. Was raised catholic and now learning about different magickal systems. For anyone who wants to look into other catholic forms of magick or is struggling with your decision look into brother ada or agostino taumaturgis (not i spelt this right) Again, amazing video to stumble upon
Someone once said that “magic” is when there is this belief that certain formulas and actions done right can reliably produce supernatural effects. While official Catholicism mostly dislikes this idea (the sin of superstition is precisely attributing this idea to certain blessings or rites), it is noteworthy that even officially this is highly related to sacramental theology. In Catholicism, a sacrament is a sign that produces the effect is signifies. Baptism for instance has water as a sign. The pouring of water while reciting “I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” does not merely symbolize washing away of sin but actually does it so long as water is used with these words and with the intention to baptize.
I love this channel even though much of it doesn't apply to me. Saints, deities, and things of that nature do not play a role in my practice but I love learning about how others do things. Videos like this do such a fantastic job at teaching people like me about things we wouldn't interact with or hear about otherwise.
Been a general christian witch for awhile now but I am trying to find my exact science of magick... I like this Folk Catholicism, Italian Folk Magick stuff you been putting me onto.. Someone had recently used the term catholic witch around me but I hadn't discovered much until I found you, thank you for everything, okay back to your video now!! 🖤🖤
I am very interested in the combination of protestant Christianity and craft. Can you point toward any info/resources? Or tell me a little about your own journey?
How about possession, riding, or drawing down? Do you know anything about that? I would say folk Catholicism are practices and beliefs held by the laity, independent of the Vatican hierarchy and its orthodoxy. I've become interested in it since I found the Way of the Rose group. My patroness is Our Lady of Prompt Succor. That was my mom's favorite aspect of Our Lady. Turns out, where I live is her hometown, where she gained that epithet! Her mother shrine in the whole world is here, New Orleans. She protects us from hurricanes.
I usually try contacting saints i rather have an interest area on working, that is inserted somewhere on my day to day or that i have somekind of affinity to. For example, St Lucy is a saint i always had a special care for. I remember when i was little, mom took me to a St Lucy's church, and there was this big statue of her and i would scream repeatedly: "WUCY! WUCY!" pointing to her, idk why lol. And now i work with her, usually asking her protection from the evil eye and sometimes i ask her to get some troubles solved and help me focusing, and for some reason she loves incense and herb burning 😅 i love saints sm, some of them are even comforting sometimes. Folk catholicism is simply DIVINE. ❤
YAAAY I WAS HOPING FOR A FRANKIE FRIDAY!! So sorry U hurt ur bck girl friend 💜 I can't tell U ENUFF how MUCH I appreciate THIS video!! I have been diving into the Saint's lately!!! I was raised Catholic BUT at the same time my parents didn't feel U NEEDED to go to a Church to worship, and I have raised my daughter the SAME, ONLY I have ALSO raised her to KNOW she has a gift and being a Witch doesn't make HER crazy and that what she feels, See's, or experiences ARE REAL!! AND a lil Weird is UNIQUE not BAD!! AND UR normal may not be My normal .... and THAT'S OOKAAY 💜💯 St. Mary is one of my deep dives lately and THIS wkend I planned another deep dive with the St. Michael and a few others on audible!! Thanks again Frankie for all U do!! Very helpful to me and mine in our journey!! Love frm Us Southern Witches in Florida 💜🌴🌴💜
I am very late but thank you so much for this video!! I actually went to a Roman Catholic school up until 2 years ago, and something about the way the religion teachers acted as if everything they were saying was indisputable fact, along with the blatant, even celebrated homophobia constantly causing me to feel unsafe really rubbed me the wrong way. I've dabbled in other spiritual practices and witchcraft for a couple of years now, but I always thought back to my time as a devout Catholic, and a few things I really enjoyed and that made me feel spiritual closeness (i guess, idk how to explain?) were our yearly saint research projects and a rosary novena to Mary. I was wondering for awhile if there was a way to incorporate saints back into my spirituality without incorporating the Bible or the Church, and now I've found a way! Thank you again!
Excellent video once again, as I have been watching what you have to say about the practice. I myself growing up Roman/Irish Catholic (both sides of the family), have always been drawn to the mystical side of it. As an occult practitioner for many years now. I see my central focus/ practice in the possibility of becoming only folk Catholicism. I am a straight man myself, so I assume it’s rare for someone like me to seek interest without the trauma. Even though I don’t care who’s practicing it’s your personal space to do whichever you wish.
Interpretations of the saints vary. For example, Protestant interpretations vary according to various perceptions of time before or after death. But some Roman Catholics interpret I Corinthians 6:2-3 in regards to the Saints in Heaven. "Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life!" Prayer of the Saints in Heaven is Biblical. 🙏
That Video showed up to the right time xD I am currently in contact with one of my past life, who was a folk practitioner in france and I really feel called to step into that path, because he really left something big open to work on 🙌🏻 So this video really inspired me and brought more understandment to me as well
newish but this video kinda helped open my eyes to different kind of 'forms' or beings to work with. I've been working on meditating and trying to find who wants to work with me but I keep seeing trees or specifically yggdrasil or what feels to me like yggdrasil. is this a thing? it feels a little like just 'asking the universe' kinda thing but idk I just keep coming back to it. you were talking about the difference of saints and gods and pop culture gods (that i never heard of before so thank you for my daily learning) but what about (more or less) inanimate objects? I hope im making sense. thank you for your work and postings hope you have a fantastic weekend!
I am realising that my family was in fact always practicing folk catholcicism.... never believed much in the Church, talking to the saints when in need, considering a prayer like a way of calling their attention to you and before closing the prayer with an amen (ex: hail mary or "je vous salue marie " in french) you squeeze in your request, and then close it, thanking them the same way when what you requested happened. Going to church just to set the mood of " oh i am going to pay my respects to **** " or " perfect place to ask saint ***** something ", offering a jar of holy water from Lourdes when someone in your family buys a house, to protect the house from the eye and from any ill in general..... (If anyone has book recs, podcasts abt folk practices of france and spain that would be deeply apreciated) Hope you have a good day ! 😊 Bye 👋🏻
*sigh* another "coincidence" that cultural Catholicism is something to check out... Even though I informally left the Church after my brief yet intense conversion and initiation into the Church because reasons
I'm Wiccan, but I've been circling back to folk Catholicism too. I'm interested in the mysteries of Jesus and Mary Magdalene as the sacred bride and groom.
Yeah, St. Michael didn't listen to me either. I did a whole thing of prayers every Tuesday morning for I-forget-how-many weeks, but I did not get what I was hoping for. (He might be more helpful if I need an exorcism. Who knows?)
The mention of St. Francis in this video helped me realize that it’s probably _not_ a coincidence that some song sparrows began nesting around my nonny’s statue of him. The sparrows know who they’re safe with.
It has been very interesting to see how many saints I have been organically drawn to only to learn that they are venerated in my home area. My dad's whole side was Mormon,aswas my maternal grandfather. My maternal grandmother was an episcopalian orphan mormon convert, so I don't have a lot of familial connection to it. That being said I started to become drawn to the Magdalena, and later learned that the only cathedral dedicated to her in the US is in my home town. A similar thing has been happening with Mary as she is venerated by some here under the epithet Our Lady of the Snows
Very interesting! I've I stayed clear of most things related to the church, but when I was younger either my mom or my gramma told me to ask St. Anthony for help if I needed to find something. It would always work! Now that I'm older, I get the desire to look up different saints and see what they're all about. I have to learn how to separate the folk side from the organized side; I would feel bad for wanting to work with them but then get mad for something that has nothing to do with them.
You say in your video that “Christian” and Catholic like they’re two different religions - Catholics were and still are the original and first Christians that have ever existed. Yes I am Catholic and I do believe that if you aren’t a believer in the Catholic faith then you can’t be folk catholic or perform folk catholic rituals … catholic folk saints are saints that are honored in certain cultures that aren’t canonized by the Catholic Church. So you can’t be a “folk catholic” without being a believer in the catholic faith and in God, Mary and the Saints. I know you’re still new at being a “folk catholic practitioner” but I think you need to do more research. Saints are not intermediaries between you and the “universe “ - saints are intermediaries between you and God. , saints come from Christianity (Catholicism) and me being a catholic it is Kind of offensive as you’re using parts of Catholicism while leaving out the parts you don’t agree with , if you practice folk work or saint work then you are a catholic /Christian whether u like it or not as the saint and Mary come from God (the Divine) and get their power from God only . Also you state in your video that you should stick with saints that come from your ancestral land , well that’s not true … just because you don’t share the same ethnic roots as that saint it doesn’t mean you cant work with them and have success with them , what it mean sis that you need to do your research on that saint before you even ask them for a favor and see what they like and how they like to be venerated and their feast days and such, as well as respecting their people and their peoples culture. I do like this video but i just don’t think things were properly explained like they should’ve been , but I do look forward to more saint videos from you ❤
I was raised catholic (not anymore) and it always frustrated me so much that people who are other branches of Christianity just don’t seem to get that Catholicism IS Christianity. It’s the OG Christianity! Catholics didn’t become not Christian because other interpretations emerged 😅
I was raised Catholic. And although I am now Pagan, I still love St.Olga ever since I learned about her forever ago reading about Rus Vikings. I've been venerating to her for the Protection of Ukraine along with the Gods.
In Argentina we have a couple popular saints and a recognized virgin, we have la virgen de Luján (Lujan's virgin) that cares for people that drive, similar to El gauchito gil a popular one that also cares for people on the route but has a bigger story, we also have La difunta correa, that is specific to truck drivers I believe (a lot of driving ones it seems that people who work traveling have the need for them here) and there is a recent one called Gilda, she was a cumbia singer really beloved here and she appeared to a couple people and helped them and it became a popular saint.
Love love love this video! It's far and few between where I find a folk practitioner that I resonate with this much. I absolutely love everything you said and agree with all of this information! I'm an Appalachian folk practitioner & I am following in the footsteps of my great grandmother who was an Appalachian Catholic cunning woman in our region. She healed with herbs, the moon & her Catholic faith. And also following in my other ancestors footsteps as well. So my practice is a mix of Appalachian folk magic, Pennsylvania Dutch folk magic & Irish-American Catholic folk magic. Anyways, I wanted to add a few notes for anyone who may be interested to hear from another folk practitioner. To anyone throwing caution to the wind (as for finding a Patron Saint) another great way to find one is by looking into the Saints that you are drawn to due to similarities. Example, someone going into the study of Animal Medicine may want to have Saint Francis of Assisi on their side! Of course do so with respect, researching how to reach out to said Saint & make sure they're accepting of your veneration & will work with you. And I say this speaking of those Saints who are now venerated mostly world wide (and not really just in one region) in mind. Also another way to honor/venerate a Saint if you can't afford statues or find Catholic Saint candles with images on them (in my area you can only really find Mother Mary, Jesus & Saint Jude) check into Holy cards! You can lean them against the plain big tall Novena candles, keep them on your altar, in your car, under your pillow, in your pocket, etc. I find them on eBay for under $2 and free shipping (or super cheap shipping, like 50 cents). You can also draw or paint a picture of them. And lastly, praying chaplets is another really nice way to connect and venerate them. I pray Archangel Michael's chaplet every Sunday (and it's even more than just venerating Archangel Michael as it's much like his other prayer and is a prayer of protection). I hope you didn't already mention these in your video. I waited until I finished the video to hop on my laptop and comment. I was trying to remember everything I wanted to say, so if I repeated something you already mentioned, my apologies! Thank you so much for this informative video.
My ancestors are all very catholic, but due to being irish it was quite folky if that makes sense. I've been looking into folk magic and something that really spoke to me was that there is a Saint who shares my birth name and her feast day/the day she died is my birthday...
I love the breakdown! If you are thinking bout doing one on RUNES I'd appreciate I think u did one ages ago and I didn't know if u planning on doing a redo like your older ones
❤️❤️Hai! Random comment but is there a chance you can do a walk through or explanation of how to work with a new deck? (Bonding, cleansing, charging, protection of the deck, how you learn a new deck, etc) 🙏🏼
A lot of the reasons why temples and beliefs were switched about was due to how many times places were invaded and by who. For example Scilly had been by the Greeks, the Romans, the Normans, the Arabs, ect. And so has many different believes woven in over the years. The temples switched, churches switched, deity switched. Doesn't make any of those beliefs a fraud. Quite often the deity is the same, just under another name. I really enjoyed this video and learnt a lot.
I definitely consider myself a Folk Catholic Witch. I still love parts of Catholicism (the saints, praying the rosary, attending a Traditional Latin Mass), but I am also witchy.
aunt frankieee!! this was a really great video and though you may not see or respond to this i would still like to share how much you and your videos have helped me to build my practice. i actually learned through this video that i probably wouldn't be working with saints or any other prominent beings in catholicism. firstly, because of the point you made that we have to understand that working with saints mean that we are understanding that we are within the realm of catholicism and a lot of prayers that are offered to the saints are actually also offered to god. i tried creating my own prayers for the saints but it didn't feel right because it felt selfish and as if i am taking them out of the beliefs that they had when they were alive. i think some saints would mind and notice my resistance to the christian god whenever i avoid or get emotionally hurt and bitter calling His name in prayers. i came from the philippines, one of the countries that were colonized by the spaniards and heavily taught christianism and catholicism to. during the conversion, a lot of my ancestors (particularly female because our religious practitioners were dominantly women and feminized men and/or we may call them trans women today) were painted as evil. some were even reportedly fed to crocodiles and some were a villain of the popular mythologies. it's hard to separate the action of the practitioners who did that to our indigenous religious leaders, to the christian/catholic god. i think it will take lifetime to separate the ill intentions of those practitioners as they did it while claiming that it's the will of god. but, i wouldn't have realized why saint work doesn't work for me or why saint work is difficult for me, if it wasn't for this video. i was petitioning mother mary for a while when i had my exams and i thought it was going to be easy because i did it a lot when i was in 4th grade and she granted my petitions everytime (i write her gratitude letters and tell her a bit of how my day went) but now that i've grown older (i'm in college hdhdbx), i realized it's not working anymore because of the belief that i now hold to a religion that she's part in. so again, thank you so much aunt frankieeee!!!
Hi Frankie, if you see this, could you please make a video about islamic folk magick or resources for it? I'm in the broom closet in a religious muslim household and it would help a lot if I could figure out what this is.
My town has a local unofficial saint named Father Patrick Power who died in 1869. People to this day leave him coins an rosary beads for his help. I'd post an article with pictures but I don't want my comment to get deleted again. Anyway. He's a great guy
isn't Saint Rita the patron of lost causes? ( here in Belgium that's what she's known for) and Saint Claire you petition her for good weather by offering her 12 eggs.
Me a few days ago: man.. I wonder how it would be like to incorporate saints into my practice... *fast forward to today* me: *logs onto my laptop and pulls up youtube.* ((THIS VIDEO BEING ON MY RECOMMENDED HOME PAGE)) me: o.o
Episcopalians and Lutherans have their own calendar of saints as well. MLK jr., Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Harriet Tubman are included in those lists. Don’t have to fit into a Catholic list of saints if you have no familial connection to Catholicism.
as far as saints go, I have no idea which saints my family has venerated. my family on my dad's side is catholic, but they never really speak of it. But, I do know that I have German ancestry.
Does anyone have advice for dealing with discomfort with very Christiany themes when working with saints? St. Anthony has known my Italian family probably for generations, and I'm interested in working with him. I know his casual little lost-things charm, but his other prayers are more traditional-sounding. I have a strong aversion to a lot of traditional-sounding prayers or lots of references to The Lord or Jesus, and it's like a visceral reaction that's very uncomfortable. But I want to give him what he likes. He'll be getting a candle and treats too, but the words and petitions are the thing. I'd also appreciate advice about rosaries, because they are so beautiful and have the cultural memories and obvious power, but I don't see myself chanting very Christiany prayers over and over. Thoughts about how far to go in making it your own?
I saw your comment here, and I totally understand where you are coming from as far as the references to being a "sinner", Jesus, the Abrahamic god, and things like that. That is pretty much was what prevented me from saint work since I thought saints are only going to work with you if you recognize Jesus and the Abrahamic god. Now, I am a newbie to this, and my first experience was I had a desperate situation and I decided to petition St. Expedite for some assistance. What I ended up doing was rewording St. Expedite's prayer to take out references to Jesus and changed God in the prayer to "the Divine" (the Universe could be used as well). St. Expedite did give me some assistance with my situation, but not exactly what I petitioned for. I still thank him for the help I did get from him since it was some progress better than no progress that I was experiencing beforehand. As I have been wanting to get into some more saint work lately, I did see someone post this on the Catholic subreddit," Intent is more important that the exact wording, because as someone else said it’s not a sacrament. A lot of these prayers vary." I feel as though that this idea gives people like us some wiggle room to alter the prayers to make those who have that hesitancy (whether from religious trauma or not) to mention anything relating to Christianity/Catholicism. Also, I know CWA mentions that we are working within the framework of the religion the saints come from, but I personally think after death that we move away from religion since religion is a man-made concept. I think as long as the intent in venerating these saints is there that our prayer to them can be made to something that is more comfortable for us to approach them with. There might be some saints who want their Catholic prayer said instead of reworded, and that might be some trial and error on your part to figure that out. I have heard that St. Anthony is pretty neutral religion-wise like St. Expedite and even Mary, so I think you can give rewording his prayers a shot and see what happens. As far as praying the rosary, I did read The Way of the Rose, which was okay but the author still used the Catholic prayer without rewording it for himself or others since he isn't a Christian or Catholic. I did do some research on my own, and I did find articles that reword the rosary for gods and goddesses for you to check out. You'll need to Google these since TH-cam for some reason does not let me post links: The Gathered Book of Shadows on Slideshare - This is a PDF that has some Wiccan based rosary prayers Wiccan Rosary on Scribd - This is also another Wiccan based rosary prayer The Witch's Rosary by Ariel Gatoga - This is also another place for rosary ideas and rewording the prayers. Hail Mary: The Rosary and Why I Keep Praying by Marie Cartier - Awesome article on a non-Catholic pagan lesbian on why she prays the rosary. The comment section has some great rewordings of the prayers. Retooling the Rosary by Krasskova - Krasskova does have her controversies within the Norse Pagan world, but this article does have some good rewordings of the traditional rosary prayer `Hail Persephone’: Pagans Retool the Rosary by Kimberly Winston - Another good article with a rosary prayer at the beginning dedicated to Persephone instead of Mary Anyways, hope this helps you out.
@@AA-mm6wuWow, this is a huge resource for us all. Thank you so much for your thoughtful insights and reading suggestions. This is really useful and now I'm all excited to pursue this further.
@@alexandrac591 Glad to be of help! I just found another article where the comment section has an awesome rosary prayer to Gaia: The Aramaic “Hail Mary” & Eckhart’s Call to Birth the Christ by Matthew Fox You can read the article if you want, but the comment is from a Mary Ann and it is a really beautiful rewording of the rosary prayer.
I am confussed, with al respect, but the saints are Christians who believed in the bible. The bible condems witchcraft. So why would the saints participate in witchcraft?
after I left the church it's not like I just stopped admiring some of their practices and beliefs. it's not like I just stopped loving Mother Mary and Jesus, or holy water, or rosaries, or saints, or latin, or the beautiful architecture. I felt like since i was an atheist it would be hypocritical to enjoy those things. I couldn't stand anitheists who would blaspheme Mary or Jesus. despite my religious trauma, I still kind of had an impulse "that's wrong" reaction. I realized I still belonged in Catholicism, just not the church because I was, well, bisexual and atheist. I am interested in folk catholicism. I want catholicism without crippling anxiety about going to hell everyday I wake up because I missed mass one sunday.
Hi, I have kind of a long post here because I am conflicted. How do I start? Well, first of all, I am a Witch. My beliefs are kind of eclectic as is my practice. I am very solid in my pagan beliefs even though I am open minded. Now, I am also a paranormal investigator in my free time. My most recent investigation was intense, and a negative entity did scratch me. What helped get this entity to stop was my team’s Catholic saint prayers & jewelry. Another Witch and paranormal investigator friend of mine who has a little bit more experience with all of this actually suggested I get a St Benedict piece & saint Micheal piece. So, I did get a St Benedict ring & an Archangel Micheal necklace (I know angels and saints are different but I felt more comfortable with the angel). I’m still a little uncomfortable to call upon saints especially when I venerate ancestors & land spirits. I also have an ancestral idk, I’m being drawn to the goddess Brigid who is also a saint in another context. But I’m conflicted because I don’t want my calling upon saints or angels to make my pagan beliefs and practice less than, and I also don’t want to offend the saints or angels by my not necessarily being a Catholic or Christian. Is there a way that can help with my internal discomfort of perceived conflict? What do you suggest? Great video by the way!
personally my family is very into Catholicism but less strict in the adherence to rules of the church but also not super open about their religiousness. i have pulled away from Catholicism and tried just witchcraft but have felt so empty and alone, so I think maybe Saint work or folk catholicism may be my next step. my great aunt was a nun so it probably was staring me in the face the whole time haha. but does anyone know or think starting with the saint I was confirmed under is a good a jumping off point for Saint veneration? i think this might be something i might do or look up saints for things I need help with? if anyone has any suggestions or thoughts let me know
I like the idea of Saints but not a fan of catholicism at all. Half of my family on my adopted dad's side are Mexican so I did have a little interest in Lady Death and St Guadalupe not to mention my town has huge Mexican influence which is so cool.
You've just made me realize that I grew up in a struggle between regular catholicism and folk catholicism. As a kid my family went to church. I did Sunday school and all that stuff but as I got older, I started to question everything and that was the end. I felt lost for many years. I realized that I don't care about the church but I believe in the saints and in the traditions of my Mexican heritage. My mom still goes to church but she's the one getting the holy water and honoring la Virgen de Guadalupe. She's not into the church either. This video has made me realize that my reconnection with my spiritually is folk catholicism. I got my Virgen de Guadalupe candles, the holy water my mom gave me, prayers and doing research on the saints. This video has been a great help. I now feel I have something to work from
@Darlene Fimbres I've never actually given advice or recommended anything to anyone about this since I'm pretty private about it because I'm still trying to figure it out for myself but I'll try. La Virgen de Guadalupe/ Our Lady of Guadalupe, is a big part of the Mexican cultural identity. I feel like you've seen her plastered all over anything that's remotely Mexican in any type of media. A lot of catholic churches that have a big community of Mexican, and other Latin American people have a separate space for La Virgen. Sometimes it's an altar or maybe a shrine outside. December 12th is her feast day. It's a big day. You should definitely read up on her. As for ancestors, can't help you there. If you know the region your family is from try looking up information from that area. There's a lot of different regions with their own traditions and festivals. My parents are from very different areas of the country. My dad didn't really share about how he grew up. My mom did. He's older now and a lot more willing to talk about where he grew up and stuff. Also, my dad made sure we were at mass every Sunday but a lot of the family around us were like your family. They leaned towards Catholicism but never went to church. I'm sorry if this wasn't helpful. It's all I could think of.
If ya'll want a book on this type of folk magick one I've found that's pretty good is called American Brujieria.
Is anyone aloud to pray and honor her?
@taylorrowe2002 they said they also practice folk catholicism though so I applies to their sp3cific practice
I grew up Catholic, but was always drawn to witchcraft. I pulled away from my faith and tried just witchcraft, but it didn't feel right to me. I was having a bad day and listening to podcasts, when I came across one called the Jesus Witch Podcast by Lina El-Saieh Lee, and I realized that I did believe in my faith just not in the church itself, this vid really helped thanks so much!!
That’s awesome! I’m glad you found a way to practice your faith but also be comfortable :)
The faith comes from the church so you can’t have one without the other , they go hand in hand
@@soothingsounds4464 Believing in God and Believing in what the Catholic church is different. I believe In a God, but not in the teachings of the church. I have faith that he is real. Faith doesn't come from the church, faith is a word we use to describe believing in something even if we have never seen, heard, felt, etc.
I’m in the same boat as you, it feels nice knowing I’m not alone
@@soothingsounds4464faith is given by God alone as a gift of grace. The church is the group of born again believers that follow the teachings of Jesus. We have access to God through His Holy Spirit that lives in us. The Holy Spirit is the one who helps us pray to the Father and Jesus is our intercessor to the Father. He is our only intercessor. There is no such thing as praying to saints who have passed on or communicating to them beyond earth. You will never find it in scripture and you will never find it in early church history.
Praying to the saints didn’t begin until the 3rd to 4th century. It’s always been a sin worthy of stoning to communicate to the dead and do anything like witchcraft.
It’s obvious throughout scripture.
Anyone who ignores this is wise only in their own eyes as they create gods to worship of their own imagination who are really demons in disguise.
Shout out to St. Francis for the animals! 🕯🐕🐾🕊 🐈⬛ Another shout-out to St. Brigid 🔥🐑☘️🐄🇮🇪 for the ancestors. Great video tutorial, Frankie! 🙂👍🏼
@taylorrowe2002 Why are you YELLING AT ME? I never said I “worship” saints.
I think this just confirmed that this is the path I need to go on. I just did a huge circle back to catholicism and i'm starting to deconstruct why I hate organized catholicism, why it made me feel the way it did, etc. This and reading Mary Magdalene's bible just made me feel seen and like I was in the right place. Thank you!!!
Do you mean the Gospel of Mary Magdalene? I'm studying that too.
@@kirstencorby8465 yes! sorry it was late when I wrote this lol
@@kirstencorby8465 could you tell me the author, please?
i aint reading allat@taylorrowe2002
I actually had this struggle for years! I’ve always been an eclectic witch, but I was always drawn back and forth between it and Christianity/Catholic beliefs and imagery. I missed the community and positivity associated with church, but I couldn’t get behind the belief in God. So I tried working with Greek and other mythological deities. But I didn’t really feel any connection there, either. I’ve been drawn to Catholic imagery and beautiful rosaries, so I looked into saints. Closest I got was Saint Brigid because she’s believed to be a Pagan Goddess converted to Catholic Saint because she was so well loved. Then, FINALLY, I returned to a Saint I had VERY briefly tried working with: Santa Muerte. And I FINALLY FOUND THAT FEELING THAT PEOPLE GET IN CHURCH. But I’m still allowed to be a witch, be the sinner and not feel inferior, and simply be me. I’m still an eclectic witch, but I’m an eclectic witch of Santa Muerte.
I agree with your statement but the Santa muerte is not a catholic “saint” who actually is not a saint at all , she’s a Mexican folk saint - which is different than being a saint of the Catholic Church . La
Muerte is condemned by the Church and she is actually very dangerous to work with and is very wrathful of you don’t venerate her in the way she likes and she also has a habit of taking away your loved ones after a while if you get my drift , so just beware before you start working with her that it’s very dangerous .
@@soothingsounds4464that's evil. That's the opposite of what a saint is supposed to be, which is a friend we believe is in heaven and can join us in prayer and aid us, because they love us and want us to live the life God has planned for us
@taylorrowe2002 correct
I was raised Baptist and my grandfather was a pastor. I strayed away after being hurt repeatedly by people in the church. I've been a witch since 2000. I'm interested in the saints.
It's funny hearing about the St. Joseph statue and selling your house. My mother always said witchcraft and magic was devil's work and hated when I'd even draw a star, but she practiced folk magic without knowing it. She didn't even understand why certain practices were done with saints. She just did them. She raised me to be a Catholic witch without realizing it.
This was a very eye opening video. I do not consider myself catholic but I believe in god. I would say I’m more spiritual than religious. I believe in light work, I do believe in some catholic ideals, as well as Buddhist ideals. I had bad experiences with paganisms and don’t feel comfortable with it. I didn’t know about folk magic and can’t wait to learn more! I believe in prayer and I also believe in things that the Catholic Church scoffs at. Figuring out where I belong is so hard. thank you for sharing your knowledge, it has already helped me:)
I need videos like this. Not many people talk about it.
I'm not sure if I work with Saints but my mom seems to when she prays, even as a bruja. I usually pray to God but usually Guadalupe. We also ask angels help.
I'm unsure what I am but I am a witch. I'm just still studying. I've experienced a lot and I'm unsure why I began this path but I got curious and saw a lot of the misconceptions people saw in witchcraft. Witchcraft is like a personality. Just because you see someone do something good, doesn't mean that they are good. There's good and bad in everything. There's also things that are in the middle of those two labels. I guess I stand in understanding all sides of things.
I think you read my mind posting this exactly as I was searching for it! Now thats the universe guiding me.
I’m a catholic convert as of 2018 and I stumbled upon folk Catholicism and it’s improved my faith so much! I love how you did this video. It’s soooo well done and explained well. Thank you so much for this video. 🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤🖤
If you research the indigenous medicine of your area and the historic practice of herbalists and faith healersof your own families' heritage, you can develop your own traditions.
At the end of the day, it is both our faith in God, our acceptance of the Nicene and Apostle's creeds and other components of our faith, and our brains that are the basis of our local Catholic practices. Herbology is ancient wisdom that was hard won by our forebears using the same trial and error as modern doctors, just with with fancy tools.
I believe when we see things that are pro social, uplifting, peace making, justice bringing, and heart healing we are in the presence of the Holy Spirit, who will use every avenue available to bring us closer to God spititually and physically
But we need to guard against getting arrogant, conceited, or undisciplined in our faith to protect ourselves from getting tricked by those who wish us harm, even if they don't realize that's what they are doing. Be humble, be confident, and pray. If it seems to good to be true, if it comes at too easy a cost, be wary. Individualism is not necessarily a Christian virtue, as such.
your completely unbiased and whole hearted acceptance of every individual's practice has been, and still is very healing to me. Thank you for creating that space for me and many other practitioners
OH MY GOSH! When you said the thing about burying the St. Joseph statue in the yard, I suddenly remembered that my grandmother and mother did that whenever they were trying to sell their homes! I never thought about it in a folk Catholic context before!
Ancient Roman houses were built with scattered shrines in alcoves, but there was often a main alter or shrine in the entrance courtyard and Rome. I would imagine that that author mentioned modern Italian architecture because that placement of religious areas/statuary probably crossed over when Rome adopted Christianity and created the Catholic Church. I really appreciate this video! I was raised Catholic, but did experience religious trauma, and was non religious for decades while searching for my authentic self. Since I've been on this path, I've thought I've left that aspect of my life in the past. However, as i struggled growing up, every time I prayed it was to Mary, never Jesus or "God". She was the one who comforted me, and was with me and saved my life. I've also been very strongly attached to St Francis of Asissi. I now have some ideas of where to start to bring them back into my spiritual practice. Thank you so much!
This is literally perfect timing for me. I've been thinking a lot about working with saints for weeks now but I've just been a little stumped. It's been on my mind so much today and I'm so glad this popped up in my notifications. Thanks for the great video!!
i wanna watch it so badly rn but i’m stuck cramming for my exam tmrw 😭 defo will watch it after that
Yes! I'm getting into Saint Veneration! Thank you!!!! :)))
Hi! Really enjoyed the video! Very informative and knowledgeable.❤
Catholicism is doing the paint by number exactly as presented whereas folk Catholicism takes that paint by number structure and lets you pick your own colors, does that sound right?
How did you say it so much better than I did?!?
The fun part is - I know a lot of people who consider themselves strict Catholics, but when I look at their practice I see folk Catholicism. I wouldn't tell them that or sit there and tell them they don't know their practice, but the lines are so blurred that so many Catholics consider themselves "Good Catholics" but practice some level of what we would consider folk Catholicism.
I consider myself a catholic, not folk catholic, because I don’t consider my practice outside church teachings, but many others would say what I do is folk catholic. :) check out my podcast!
I'm a learning catholic witch from Indonesia, but I haven't done much spells to really call myself a full-pledge witch. I started my practice from tarot cards, and ofc, I consulted about it to a priest, and he said "go for it, it's totally fine", but I still got rejected by another priest. What you described regular catholicism and fold catholicism help me understand the difference between me and the church. I still go to church and right now I'm a sunday school mentor. I noticed that there's a difference between catholic here and catholic anywhere else in the world, which is the baptism. Baptism here you'll receive a name from a saint that your parent think is the best saint to protect/guide you, mine are St. Albert and St. Therese, which I would love to work with.
Thank you so much🥰 Your content has helped me in my craft for a while now.
Always a refreshing vibe~
I appreciate your down to earth explanations. I am so happy to know that my beliefs are valid and a "real" thing. I just grew up in a Catholic Italian family and talking to Saint Anthony every day and other saints for specifics. I have seen the power of the rosary and have gained solice through novenas. I also do things that could be called Hoodoo. I never thought about these things as witchy until I used Saint Joseph to help get a house sold and was told it was witchcraft. (Yes! it worked within a week). Thank you!
You clearly put a lot of work into this! I admire you for putting this together even though it’s a very complicated subject. Was it difficult at first to get saints to work with you when you don’t speak to their version of God? I wonder if it bothered them at all? And I agree St Anthony is a real homie. My family always petitions him when we loose something, and he comes through every time.
To be honest, I didn’t notice any difference, but I feel like that’s up to the perspective of the person working with them!
do you mind me asking which St Anthony is it? I found two Anthony's, of Padua and the one from Egypt.
@@dionnynatanuel5305 Padua, thanks for asking. He’s the patron saint of lost things
This is so helpful! I'm a new Catholic and I've been wanting to incorporate my faith in my practice, so this info is great! 😃
Hi @SeremelaLinwe I pray to God you are doing well in your newness of the Traditional Catholic faith. I found many errors in her explanation of saints and Catholicism.
I would highly encourage you to receive info and advice from one who IS Catholic and apart from new age/ witchcraft. The devil can use good and distort it which is what is being done here. God bless you.
I was entertaining the idea for a while, re-considering my stance on God and christianity and examining how working with my ancestors affects me. With this video you kind of helped me see the path way clearer than it was before, huh. Slavic folk practise with orthodox christianity sprinkled on it, it is then (I'm not saying "slavic folk catholicism" because here in Russia we were never catholic in the first place). Thank you, you helped me get my mind out of the gutter :D
Hey! I was raised rather liberally protestant, so I don't really have any connection to saints xD However my grandpa was a miner so he and my grandma kept statues and imagery of Saint Barbara around regardless. I've been playing with the thought of getting more in touch with that for a while now so this video is perfect!!!
Thank you so much! Your content was what inspired me to start my craft and you have such safe and calming energy ❤️❤️
Witches use practices that work. For me, using the Psalms and the rosary in my spellwork works. But I do not consider myself religious at all. Many witches would look at my practice and say, oh, you are a Christian witch. I do not consider myself that at all but I will say that I have healed some of my religious trauma. A few years ago I would not have considered using the Psalms in my practice, too much trauma. But today I do see more and more elements coming back because I use tools that work.
Happy you did a video about this. Was raised catholic and now learning about different magickal systems.
For anyone who wants to look into other catholic forms of magick or is struggling with your decision look into brother ada or agostino taumaturgis (not i spelt this right)
Again, amazing video to stumble upon
Someone once said that “magic” is when there is this belief that certain formulas and actions done right can reliably produce supernatural effects. While official Catholicism mostly dislikes this idea (the sin of superstition is precisely attributing this idea to certain blessings or rites), it is noteworthy that even officially this is highly related to sacramental theology. In Catholicism, a sacrament is a sign that produces the effect is signifies. Baptism for instance has water as a sign. The pouring of water while reciting “I baptize you in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” does not merely symbolize washing away of sin but actually does it so long as water is used with these words and with the intention to baptize.
I love this channel even though much of it doesn't apply to me. Saints, deities, and things of that nature do not play a role in my practice but I love learning about how others do things. Videos like this do such a fantastic job at teaching people like me about things we wouldn't interact with or hear about otherwise.
Such an amazing job
Been a general christian witch for awhile now but I am trying to find my exact science of magick... I like this Folk Catholicism, Italian Folk Magick stuff you been putting me onto.. Someone had recently used the term catholic witch around me but I hadn't discovered much until I found you, thank you for everything, okay back to your video now!! 🖤🖤
I am very interested in the combination of protestant Christianity and craft. Can you point toward any info/resources? Or tell me a little about your own journey?
@@beth8775Hoodoo and Arbatel if I'm not mistaken are Protestant origin.
How about possession, riding, or drawing down? Do you know anything about that?
I would say folk Catholicism are practices and beliefs held by the laity, independent of the Vatican hierarchy and its orthodoxy. I've become interested in it since I found the Way of the Rose group.
My patroness is Our Lady of Prompt Succor. That was my mom's favorite aspect of Our Lady. Turns out, where I live is her hometown, where she gained that epithet! Her mother shrine in the whole world is here, New Orleans. She protects us from hurricanes.
Ik this is unrelated to this video but I just got my first deck of tarot cards and I'm very excited
I'd love a video about arc angels! I've been told all my life to pray to angels but they've always been intimidating to me
@taylorrowe2002 no, that's not what I mean.
I never mentioned anything that you're describing.
I get you especially if you see them in their true form! But think of them as being sent by God who’s job it is to protect and live us! ❤️✝️☮️🇻🇦
Thanks so much for the podcast recs! I’m scrolling thru the episodes of St. Anthony’s Tongue and there are sooo many that interest me!
I usually try contacting saints i rather have an interest area on working, that is inserted somewhere on my day to day or that i have somekind of affinity to. For example, St Lucy is a saint i always had a special care for. I remember when i was little, mom took me to a St Lucy's church, and there was this big statue of her and i would scream repeatedly: "WUCY! WUCY!" pointing to her, idk why lol. And now i work with her, usually asking her protection from the evil eye and sometimes i ask her to get some troubles solved and help me focusing, and for some reason she loves incense and herb burning 😅 i love saints sm, some of them are even comforting sometimes. Folk catholicism is simply DIVINE. ❤
Hail to the Saints!
A topic I’ve wanted to know about for awhile, yay!!
YAAAY I WAS HOPING FOR A FRANKIE FRIDAY!! So sorry U hurt ur bck girl friend 💜 I can't tell U ENUFF how MUCH I appreciate THIS video!! I have been diving into the Saint's lately!!! I was raised Catholic BUT at the same time my parents didn't feel U NEEDED to go to a Church to worship, and I have raised my daughter the SAME, ONLY I have ALSO raised her to KNOW she has a gift and being a Witch doesn't make HER crazy and that what she feels, See's, or experiences ARE REAL!! AND a lil Weird is UNIQUE not BAD!! AND UR normal may not be My normal .... and THAT'S OOKAAY 💜💯 St. Mary is one of my deep dives lately and THIS wkend I planned another deep dive with the St. Michael and a few others on audible!! Thanks again Frankie for all U do!! Very helpful to me and mine in our journey!! Love frm Us Southern Witches in Florida 💜🌴🌴💜
I'm brazilian and Novena for my family is a 90-day pray is not only 9 days
but maybe is a local practice
Lol I love your channel! Seriously! I typed in how to work with Saints and your video pops up! Thank you!
I am very late but thank you so much for this video!! I actually went to a Roman Catholic school up until 2 years ago, and something about the way the religion teachers acted as if everything they were saying was indisputable fact, along with the blatant, even celebrated homophobia constantly causing me to feel unsafe really rubbed me the wrong way. I've dabbled in other spiritual practices and witchcraft for a couple of years now, but I always thought back to my time as a devout Catholic, and a few things I really enjoyed and that made me feel spiritual closeness (i guess, idk how to explain?) were our yearly saint research projects and a rosary novena to Mary. I was wondering for awhile if there was a way to incorporate saints back into my spirituality without incorporating the Bible or the Church, and now I've found a way! Thank you again!
I also have like at least 10 rosaries that I can't wait to use again haha.
"so you wanna work with saints..."
Me: Nah, not really but I do wanna see a video of you talking about working with saints!
Hiii, love your videos, you always do an amazing job!!!!🤗
Excellent video once again, as I have been watching what you have to say about the practice. I myself growing up Roman/Irish Catholic (both sides of the family), have always been drawn to the mystical side of it. As an occult practitioner for many years now. I see my central focus/ practice in the possibility of becoming only folk Catholicism. I am a straight man myself, so I assume it’s rare for someone like me to seek interest without the trauma. Even though I don’t care who’s practicing it’s your personal space to do whichever you wish.
Interpretations of the saints vary.
For example, Protestant interpretations vary according to various perceptions of time before or after death. But some Roman Catholics interpret I Corinthians 6:2-3 in regards to the Saints in Heaven.
"Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life!"
Prayer of the Saints in Heaven is Biblical. 🙏
That Video showed up to the right time xD I am currently in contact with one of my past life, who was a folk practitioner in france and I really feel called to step into that path, because he really left something big open to work on 🙌🏻
So this video really inspired me and brought more understandment to me as well
As someone who loves catholicism and hates the church, yeah, folk catholicism has felt much more home-y to me
newish but this video kinda helped open my eyes to different kind of 'forms' or beings to work with. I've been working on meditating and trying to find who wants to work with me but I keep seeing trees or specifically yggdrasil or what feels to me like yggdrasil. is this a thing? it feels a little like just 'asking the universe' kinda thing but idk I just keep coming back to it. you were talking about the difference of saints and gods and pop culture gods (that i never heard of before so thank you for my daily learning) but what about (more or less) inanimate objects? I hope im making sense. thank you for your work and postings hope you have a fantastic weekend!
I am realising that my family was in fact always practicing folk catholcicism.... never believed much in the Church, talking to the saints when in need, considering a prayer like a way of calling their attention to you and before closing the prayer with an amen (ex: hail mary or "je vous salue marie " in french) you squeeze in your request, and then close it, thanking them the same way when what you requested happened. Going to church just to set the mood of " oh i am going to pay my respects to **** " or " perfect place to ask saint ***** something ", offering a jar of holy water from Lourdes when someone in your family buys a house, to protect the house from the eye and from any ill in general.....
(If anyone has book recs, podcasts abt folk practices of france and spain that would be deeply apreciated)
Hope you have a good day ! 😊
Bye 👋🏻
*sigh* another "coincidence" that cultural Catholicism is something to check out... Even though I informally left the Church after my brief yet intense conversion and initiation into the Church because reasons
I'm Wiccan, but I've been circling back to folk Catholicism too. I'm interested in the mysteries of Jesus and Mary Magdalene as the sacred bride and groom.
Yeah, St. Michael didn't listen to me either. I did a whole thing of prayers every Tuesday morning for I-forget-how-many weeks, but I did not get what I was hoping for. (He might be more helpful if I need an exorcism. Who knows?)
The mention of St. Francis in this video helped me realize that it’s probably _not_ a coincidence that some song sparrows began nesting around my nonny’s statue of him. The sparrows know who they’re safe with.
It has been very interesting to see how many saints I have been organically drawn to only to learn that they are venerated in my home area. My dad's whole side was Mormon,aswas my maternal grandfather. My maternal grandmother was an episcopalian orphan mormon convert, so I don't have a lot of familial connection to it. That being said I started to become drawn to the Magdalena, and later learned that the only cathedral dedicated to her in the US is in my home town. A similar thing has been happening with Mary as she is venerated by some here under the epithet Our Lady of the Snows
Very interesting! I've I stayed clear of most things related to the church, but when I was younger either my mom or my gramma told me to ask St. Anthony for help if I needed to find something. It would always work! Now that I'm older, I get the desire to look up different saints and see what they're all about. I have to learn how to separate the folk side from the organized side; I would feel bad for wanting to work with them but then get mad for something that has nothing to do with them.
You say in your video that “Christian” and Catholic like they’re two different religions - Catholics were and still are the original and first Christians that have ever existed. Yes I am Catholic and I do believe that if you aren’t a believer in the Catholic faith then you can’t be folk catholic or perform folk catholic rituals … catholic folk saints are saints that are honored in certain cultures that aren’t canonized by the Catholic Church. So you can’t be a “folk catholic” without being a believer in the catholic faith and in God, Mary and the Saints. I know you’re still new at being a “folk catholic practitioner” but I think you need to do more research. Saints are not intermediaries between you and the “universe “ - saints are intermediaries between you and God. , saints come from Christianity (Catholicism) and me being a catholic it is Kind of offensive as you’re using parts of Catholicism while leaving out the parts you don’t agree with , if you practice folk work or saint work then you are a catholic /Christian whether u like it or not as the saint and Mary come from God (the Divine) and get their power from God only . Also you state in your video that you should stick with saints that come from your ancestral land , well that’s not true … just because you don’t share the same ethnic roots as that saint it doesn’t mean you cant work with them and have success with them , what it mean sis that you need to do your research on that saint before you even ask them for a favor and see what they like and how they like to be venerated and their feast days and such, as well as respecting their people and their peoples culture. I do like this video but i just don’t think things were properly explained like they should’ve been , but I do look forward to more saint videos from you ❤
I was raised catholic (not anymore) and it always frustrated me so much that people who are other branches of Christianity just don’t seem to get that Catholicism IS Christianity. It’s the OG Christianity! Catholics didn’t become not Christian because other interpretations emerged 😅
If you don't already have an idea for the next video I think a video on working with ansesters would be cool and helpful.
Thanks for the mention, Frankie! (This is just for my private tarot reading lol - check out my podcasts wherever you get your podcasts!)
I was raised Catholic. And although I am now Pagan, I still love St.Olga ever since I learned about her forever ago reading about Rus Vikings. I've been venerating to her for the Protection of Ukraine along with the Gods.
Omg, i thought I’d invented pop culture saints! Prince and Bowie are both my patron saints: Prince of creativity, Bowie of Communication
In Argentina we have a couple popular saints and a recognized virgin, we have la virgen de Luján (Lujan's virgin) that cares for people that drive, similar to El gauchito gil a popular one that also cares for people on the route but has a bigger story, we also have La difunta correa, that is specific to truck drivers I believe (a lot of driving ones it seems that people who work traveling have the need for them here) and there is a recent one called Gilda, she was a cumbia singer really beloved here and she appeared to a couple people and helped them and it became a popular saint.
Love love love this video! It's far and few between where I find a folk practitioner that I resonate with this much. I absolutely love everything you said and agree with all of this information! I'm an Appalachian folk practitioner & I am following in the footsteps of my great grandmother who was an Appalachian Catholic cunning woman in our region. She healed with herbs, the moon & her Catholic faith. And also following in my other ancestors footsteps as well. So my practice is a mix of Appalachian folk magic, Pennsylvania Dutch folk magic & Irish-American Catholic folk magic. Anyways, I wanted to add a few notes for anyone who may be interested to hear from another folk practitioner. To anyone throwing caution to the wind (as for finding a Patron Saint) another great way to find one is by looking into the Saints that you are drawn to due to similarities. Example, someone going into the study of Animal Medicine may want to have Saint Francis of Assisi on their side! Of course do so with respect, researching how to reach out to said Saint & make sure they're accepting of your veneration & will work with you. And I say this speaking of those Saints who are now venerated mostly world wide (and not really just in one region) in mind. Also another way to honor/venerate a Saint if you can't afford statues or find Catholic Saint candles with images on them (in my area you can only really find Mother Mary, Jesus & Saint Jude) check into Holy cards! You can lean them against the plain big tall Novena candles, keep them on your altar, in your car, under your pillow, in your pocket, etc. I find them on eBay for under $2 and free shipping (or super cheap shipping, like 50 cents). You can also draw or paint a picture of them. And lastly, praying chaplets is another really nice way to connect and venerate them. I pray Archangel Michael's chaplet every Sunday (and it's even more than just venerating Archangel Michael as it's much like his other prayer and is a prayer of protection). I hope you didn't already mention these in your video. I waited until I finished the video to hop on my laptop and comment. I was trying to remember everything I wanted to say, so if I repeated something you already mentioned, my apologies! Thank you so much for this informative video.
This is an AMAZING add on, thank you so much 🥰
If you're a lapsed Catholic you could turn to your patron saint too, if you were confirmed. They'd probably take you back.
@@ChaoticWitchAunt Thank you! And you're very welcome. :)
My ancestors are all very catholic, but due to being irish it was quite folky if that makes sense. I've been looking into folk magic and something that really spoke to me was that there is a Saint who shares my birth name and her feast day/the day she died is my birthday...
I love the breakdown! If you are thinking bout doing one on RUNES I'd appreciate I think u did one ages ago and I didn't know if u planning on doing a redo like your older ones
❤️❤️Hai! Random comment but is there a chance you can do a walk through or explanation of how to work with a new deck? (Bonding, cleansing, charging, protection of the deck, how you learn a new deck, etc) 🙏🏼
Yes I can!
@@ChaoticWitchAunt thank you! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
A lot of the reasons why temples and beliefs were switched about was due to how many times places were invaded and by who.
For example Scilly had been by the Greeks, the Romans, the Normans, the Arabs, ect. And so has many different believes woven in over the years. The temples switched, churches switched, deity switched. Doesn't make any of those beliefs a fraud. Quite often the deity is the same, just under another name.
I really enjoyed this video and learnt a lot.
I definitely consider myself a Folk Catholic Witch. I still love parts of Catholicism (the saints, praying the rosary, attending a Traditional Latin Mass), but I am also witchy.
So folk Catholicism is more like “localized” one, right? Like how Buddhism in Thailand has local animism and Hinduism mixed in.
omg i'm from argentina and here we pray to San expedito a lot
aunt frankieee!! this was a really great video and though you may not see or respond to this i would still like to share how much you and your videos have helped me to build my practice. i actually learned through this video that i probably wouldn't be working with saints or any other prominent beings in catholicism. firstly, because of the point you made that we have to understand that working with saints mean that we are understanding that we are within the realm of catholicism and a lot of prayers that are offered to the saints are actually also offered to god. i tried creating my own prayers for the saints but it didn't feel right because it felt selfish and as if i am taking them out of the beliefs that they had when they were alive. i think some saints would mind and notice my resistance to the christian god whenever i avoid or get emotionally hurt and bitter calling His name in prayers. i came from the philippines, one of the countries that were colonized by the spaniards and heavily taught christianism and catholicism to. during the conversion, a lot of my ancestors (particularly female because our religious practitioners were dominantly women and feminized men and/or we may call them trans women today) were painted as evil. some were even reportedly fed to crocodiles and some were a villain of the popular mythologies. it's hard to separate the action of the practitioners who did that to our indigenous religious leaders, to the christian/catholic god. i think it will take lifetime to separate the ill intentions of those practitioners as they did it while claiming that it's the will of god. but, i wouldn't have realized why saint work doesn't work for me or why saint work is difficult for me, if it wasn't for this video. i was petitioning mother mary for a while when i had my exams and i thought it was going to be easy because i did it a lot when i was in 4th grade and she granted my petitions everytime (i write her gratitude letters and tell her a bit of how my day went) but now that i've grown older (i'm in college hdhdbx), i realized it's not working anymore because of the belief that i now hold to a religion that she's part in. so again, thank you so much aunt frankieeee!!!
Oh. Yeah. Folk catholic here then. 100% I never knew there was a difference but that describes me perfectly
Hi Frankie, if you see this, could you please make a video about islamic folk magick or resources for it? I'm in the broom closet in a religious muslim household and it would help a lot if I could figure out what this is.
Excellent video Frankie!
There are so many logical holes with following any brand of catholicism but not the church
My town has a local unofficial saint named Father Patrick Power who died in 1869. People to this day leave him coins an rosary beads for his help. I'd post an article with pictures but I don't want my comment to get deleted again. Anyway. He's a great guy
This is interesting 💛
St. Mark showed himself to me in a dream yet I felt a bit uncomfortable channeling or connecting with him.
isn't Saint Rita the patron of lost causes? ( here in Belgium that's what she's known for) and Saint Claire you petition her for good weather by offering her 12 eggs.
Me a few days ago: man.. I wonder how it would be like to incorporate saints into my practice... *fast forward to today* me: *logs onto my laptop and pulls up youtube.* ((THIS VIDEO BEING ON MY RECOMMENDED HOME PAGE)) me: o.o
Episcopalians and Lutherans have their own calendar of saints as well. MLK jr., Dietrich Bonhoeffer and Harriet Tubman are included in those lists. Don’t have to fit into a Catholic list of saints if you have no familial connection to Catholicism.
I love your shirt where did you get it?
Fsgprints. You have to complete the url otherwise my comment will disappear.
It was a gift from my partner!
I’d love to see a video on archangels like you mention at the end. :)
This made my head spin bc my mom does that Saint Joseph statue thing
Thank you thank you thaaaannnnnnkkkkkk you for this ❤️
So I guess any little ritual we did at home that we werent to tell the priest about wouldve counted as folk Catholicism 😂
as far as saints go, I have no idea which saints my family has venerated. my family on my dad's side is catholic, but they never really speak of it. But, I do know that I have German ancestry.
Does anyone have advice for dealing with discomfort with very Christiany themes when working with saints? St. Anthony has known my Italian family probably for generations, and I'm interested in working with him. I know his casual little lost-things charm, but his other prayers are more traditional-sounding. I have a strong aversion to a lot of traditional-sounding prayers or lots of references to The Lord or Jesus, and it's like a visceral reaction that's very uncomfortable. But I want to give him what he likes. He'll be getting a candle and treats too, but the words and petitions are the thing.
I'd also appreciate advice about rosaries, because they are so beautiful and have the cultural memories and obvious power, but I don't see myself chanting very Christiany prayers over and over. Thoughts about how far to go in making it your own?
I saw your comment here, and I totally understand where you are coming from as far as the references to being a "sinner", Jesus, the Abrahamic god, and things like that. That is pretty much was what prevented me from saint work since I thought saints are only going to work with you if you recognize Jesus and the Abrahamic god.
Now, I am a newbie to this, and my first experience was I had a desperate situation and I decided to petition St. Expedite for some assistance.
What I ended up doing was rewording St. Expedite's prayer to take out references to Jesus and changed God in the prayer to "the Divine" (the Universe could be used as well). St. Expedite did give me some assistance with my situation, but not exactly what I petitioned for. I still thank him for the help I did get from him since it was some progress better than no progress that I was experiencing beforehand.
As I have been wanting to get into some more saint work lately, I did see someone post this on the Catholic subreddit," Intent is more important that the exact wording, because as someone else said it’s not a sacrament. A lot of these prayers vary." I feel as though that this idea gives people like us some wiggle room to alter the prayers to make those who have that hesitancy (whether from religious trauma or not) to mention anything relating to Christianity/Catholicism.
Also, I know CWA mentions that we are working within the framework of the religion the saints come from, but I personally think after death that we move away from religion since religion is a man-made concept. I think as long as the intent in venerating these saints is there that our prayer to them can be made to something that is more comfortable for us to approach them with.
There might be some saints who want their Catholic prayer said instead of reworded, and that might be some trial and error on your part to figure that out. I have heard that St. Anthony is pretty neutral religion-wise like St. Expedite and even Mary, so I think you can give rewording his prayers a shot and see what happens.
As far as praying the rosary, I did read The Way of the Rose, which was okay but the author still used the Catholic prayer without rewording it for himself or others since he isn't a Christian or Catholic. I did do some research on my own, and I did find articles that reword the rosary for gods and goddesses for you to check out.
You'll need to Google these since TH-cam for some reason does not let me post links:
The Gathered Book of Shadows on Slideshare - This is a PDF that has some Wiccan based rosary prayers
Wiccan Rosary on Scribd - This is also another Wiccan based rosary prayer
The Witch's Rosary by Ariel Gatoga - This is also another place for rosary ideas and rewording the prayers.
Hail Mary: The Rosary and Why I Keep Praying by Marie Cartier - Awesome article on a non-Catholic pagan lesbian on why she prays the rosary. The comment section has some great rewordings of the prayers.
Retooling the Rosary by Krasskova - Krasskova does have her controversies within the Norse Pagan world, but this article does have some good rewordings of the traditional rosary prayer
`Hail Persephone’: Pagans Retool the Rosary by Kimberly Winston - Another good article with a rosary prayer at the beginning dedicated to Persephone instead of Mary
Anyways, hope this helps you out.
@@AA-mm6wuWow, this is a huge resource for us all. Thank you so much for your thoughtful insights and reading suggestions. This is really useful and now I'm all excited to pursue this further.
@@alexandrac591 Glad to be of help!
I just found another article where the comment section has an awesome rosary prayer to Gaia:
The Aramaic “Hail Mary” & Eckhart’s Call to Birth the Christ by Matthew Fox
You can read the article if you want, but the comment is from a Mary Ann and it is a really beautiful rewording of the rosary prayer.
I am confussed, with al respect, but the saints are Christians who believed in the bible. The bible condems witchcraft. So why would the saints participate in witchcraft?
Do you have any advice for working with archangels? Especially angel Gabriel
after I left the church it's not like I just stopped admiring some of their practices and beliefs. it's not like I just stopped loving Mother Mary and Jesus, or holy water, or rosaries, or saints, or latin, or the beautiful architecture. I felt like since i was an atheist it would be hypocritical to enjoy those things. I couldn't stand anitheists who would blaspheme Mary or Jesus. despite my religious trauma, I still kind of had an impulse "that's wrong" reaction. I realized I still belonged in Catholicism, just not the church because I was, well, bisexual and atheist. I am interested in folk catholicism. I want catholicism without crippling anxiety about going to hell everyday I wake up because I missed mass one sunday.
I Love how you executed this video! I was just wondering about how you said you and St. Peter are on better terms now. How did you do that?
Hi, I have kind of a long post here because I am conflicted. How do I start? Well, first of all, I am a Witch. My beliefs are kind of eclectic as is my practice. I am very solid in my pagan beliefs even though I am open minded. Now, I am also a paranormal investigator in my free time. My most recent investigation was intense, and a negative entity did scratch me. What helped get this entity to stop was my team’s Catholic saint prayers & jewelry. Another Witch and paranormal investigator friend of mine who has a little bit more experience with all of this actually suggested I get a St Benedict piece & saint Micheal piece. So, I did get a St Benedict ring & an Archangel Micheal necklace (I know angels and saints are different but I felt more comfortable with the angel). I’m still a little uncomfortable to call upon saints especially when I venerate ancestors & land spirits. I also have an ancestral idk, I’m being drawn to the goddess Brigid who is also a saint in another context. But I’m conflicted because I don’t want my calling upon saints or angels to make my pagan beliefs and practice less than, and I also don’t want to offend the saints or angels by my not necessarily being a Catholic or Christian. Is there a way that can help with my internal discomfort of perceived conflict? What do you suggest? Great video by the way!
I love how everyone else gets a name. Jude. Mary. Etc etc. but expedite? Yeah expedite just gets a description of what they are good at.
personally my family is very into Catholicism but less strict in the adherence to rules of the church but also not super open about their religiousness. i have pulled away from Catholicism and tried just witchcraft but have felt so empty and alone, so I think maybe Saint work or folk catholicism may be my next step. my great aunt was a nun so it probably was staring me in the face the whole time haha. but does anyone know or think starting with the saint I was confirmed under is a good a jumping off point for Saint veneration? i think this might be something i might do or look up saints for things I need help with? if anyone has any suggestions or thoughts let me know
but this video was super helpful thank you frankie!!
I'm coming from a Zagovory background.. Can I work with the Eastern Orthodox Saints in my practice ?
Go list all the different Sant’Antonio 😅 auguri!
No catholics in my family 😂 (birth and chosen). What should I do if I choose to not work with any ancestors since I’m not close with my birth family?
As I am writing this the total raised is $666.00 😅 That's awesome 👌
I like the idea of Saints but not a fan of catholicism at all. Half of my family on my adopted dad's side are Mexican so I did have a little interest in Lady Death and St Guadalupe not to mention my town has huge Mexican influence which is so cool.