Exterior wood siding painting preparation - tips, tools, how to guide

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  • @StevesRealWorld
    @StevesRealWorld ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Almost 10 years old and still one of the best videos on this subject that I found on TH-cam - thanks.

  • @DanielOseida
    @DanielOseida 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Learned a lot of information thank you!

  • @obrapro
    @obrapro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Been searching and watching then searching and this video is no BS right to the point w/ product and tool info. Wish I found this an hour ago. Now I can share with my boys to see what type of work we'll be doing this spring. Excellent video. Thanks so much.

  • @kernjames
    @kernjames 5 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Great video. Do It Yourself (DIY) is fraught with fear and insecurity when you take on a task that you have never done before. Videos such as this one helps to quiet the fear and uncertainty in a DIY project.

  • @mpunch3
    @mpunch3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I’m painting my house for the first time. I never heard of peel bond so your video was very helpful.

  • @growingrprosperity5820
    @growingrprosperity5820 8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Very clear presentation with just the right amount of detail. Glad to see you recommend actual product names so's I know what to buy.

  • @kentkinyon8421
    @kentkinyon8421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Well done. This was exactly the information I was looking for. Clearly communicated. I have been having a difficult time finding a product like Peel Bond.

  • @JannatMiranda
    @JannatMiranda 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great video. Time for the good apples to stand up & make the bad apples look for what they are. Thank God for TH-cam and those who work with integrity.
    Make more videos with great tips guys.

  • @leslieaharden6183
    @leslieaharden6183 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Lots of great tips! Like feathering w 7"sanding pad. Thank you!

  • @1991font
    @1991font 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the video mate, looking to do a DIY job on my own place, and this is a great quick breakdown. cheers

  • @leekazan556
    @leekazan556 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best house paint video. Thank you!

  • @justinwizard4776
    @justinwizard4776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Fantastic prep work. You guys did a really good job painting too.

  • @CaesarEllish1
    @CaesarEllish1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice work backrolling the sprayed primer 👌

  • @roblayton5442
    @roblayton5442 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hello! Just curious what Grit of sandpaper you have on your Disc Sander? thanks!

    • @Mike-qo4kp
      @Mike-qo4kp ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is using a disk made for metal grinding. Comparable sand paper grit roughly 40-60 grit. If you sand wood siding with higher you will remove the wood grain.

  • @aliviasapproach
    @aliviasapproach 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you. It makes it so much easier to think it through.

  • @dave5185
    @dave5185 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just bought peel bond primer today. They can tint it so you can see what areas you've covered. I had it tinted a shade of gray that is close to the green color of the house.

  • @almas7123
    @almas7123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    We need more workers like you in America. Most cut corners

    • @Cystus
      @Cystus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Quality takes time, and time is money. Words most normal wage earning people don't wanna hear.

    • @bailey2624
      @bailey2624 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      thats cause people dont wish to pay the premium it cost to do work like this.

    • @bailey2624
      @bailey2624 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      i lose alot of work because I wont work for $1 sq foot for anything especially on the north east coast

    • @willfishing5605
      @willfishing5605 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most? I bet you're a pain in the ass to work for

  • @josephn9881
    @josephn9881 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your content is superb. Especially checking with the manufacturer

  • @kefta4ever219
    @kefta4ever219 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this video. It was very helpful.

  • @comptegoogle511
    @comptegoogle511 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You read my mind. Yesterday I was asked to prep wood slates with a 4 inch orbital sander. Took forever and it was impossible to make the pint chip notch vanish or be sure that all the loose paint was removed.

  • @1vertical11
    @1vertical11 ปีที่แล้ว

    wish I knew of an example of the 7" disks that you use. All I find have a 7/8 arbor hole and that is not easily used with the 1/2" arbor this sander is populated with.

  • @DEK981967
    @DEK981967 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always seal or prime before caulking to seal the surface. Caulk will shrink and not bond well to an unprimed or painted surface.

  • @kymk8067
    @kymk8067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent, clear and concise video. Thanks for making this Video 👍
    Question : I want to remove the ingrained paint (take it back to original wood) from my wood beams that surround the exterior of my car port & porch.
    You mentioned the primer goes on milky but dries clear. Remembering I want to show original beams..Can I use the Prime RX to seal my beam and keep bugs from entering grain? FYI - Weather - I’m 👍in hot Sunny Florida! Ty

  • @JCnordic2983
    @JCnordic2983 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great finish work!

  • @mateodemateus5444
    @mateodemateus5444 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for sharing great information.

  • @1omarrr
    @1omarrr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a garage with dutchlap siding I painted twice but it keeps chipping now it needs sanding I tried 7" polisher but now I can't find the 7" stick on sheets . all the sanders are small and they are for detaild hobs . what kind of sander did you use for this job and whrer can I buy it . thank you.

    • @MrCochise1111
      @MrCochise1111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd like to know, too. Did you ever find out?

  • @d.nelson6478
    @d.nelson6478 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good vid. It would have been helpful to see a before and after pic taken from a little farther away from the house for perspective. Thanks.

  • @1lizloring346
    @1lizloring346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this video. I recently moved to CO from MN and purchased a home with wood siding that was badly weathered and needed painting and repair. The company did a terrible job and is trying to tell me it's as good as it gets. It's unacceptable and not an outcome they shared at onset. I wanted to see if better was possible and you helped me to see it was. If I was still in MN I would be a customer. Thanks!

    • @1lizloring346
      @1lizloring346 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Horror story reference (videos of the work) th-cam.com/channels/oaJJwfaXRsWVG0eCLezwCQ.html

  • @ajsbrushworksllc8348
    @ajsbrushworksllc8348 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Have you used a paint eater at all? I see a fair amount of guys in my area using them. Just curious on your feedback.

  • @alexanderberry7320
    @alexanderberry7320 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just wondering, what areas you would Caulk for a project like this?

  • @michaelgaudette4934
    @michaelgaudette4934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Really nice job. However, I've used Duration by Sherwin Williams and I find it fades badly in the sun and simply can't handle salt air. I've since switched to using either Old Village or Behr Ultra and have had vastly superior results here in New England on the coast where paint takes a beating year round. I can only imagine it would last that much longer in less harsh conditions. I don't typically like to rag on a product but after many fails by duration I rate it as junk paint at best.

    • @malcolmbaldwin5735
      @malcolmbaldwin5735 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been so stoked on Behr Ultra the last 3 years . The duration is nice and thick but a waste of money

  • @naysoeaung
    @naysoeaung 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are very good .

  • @lakebrunnerscaffolding6832
    @lakebrunnerscaffolding6832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi what makita drill are you using?

  • @sallypettit7156
    @sallypettit7156 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is now 9 years old. I never heard of the primer that fills in/smooths the surface. I certainly wish I knew this before painting my house, and fence.

  • @jreyesff
    @jreyesff 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What grit sandpaper for THX cedar siding

  • @shebeme2000
    @shebeme2000 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Which pile roller did you use?

  • @ottoteck
    @ottoteck 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the advice.

  • @y22000
    @y22000 ปีที่แล้ว

    a very good video, thanks be to God and thank you. I have questions regarding the last few minutes of your commenting: 'we only had a couple layers of paint previously applied so the surface leveled out really well, results will vary depending on the thickness and buildup of previously applied paint': I dont understand this part: can you help? thank you in advance and God blesses you and people around you abundantly with Himself!

  • @vollandt
    @vollandt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5" disc sander with a 7" resin sanding disc was the perfect tool to prep my old siding. For the 7" resin discs, the hercules brand at HF where better and cheaper than the diablo brand.

  • @kimberlin2945
    @kimberlin2945 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What color is the paint you used? I really like it and want to paint my garage this color! 😀

  • @Jimmy_Cavallo
    @Jimmy_Cavallo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    💥 Great video thank you. 0:35 what model is that sander.?? 🤟🏼

  • @NunYaaBizz
    @NunYaaBizz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey if the wood siding has tanin bleeding in some spots, would you recommend oil based primer instead of peel bond?

  • @robm9500
    @robm9500 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super helpful thank you!

  • @bobbg9041
    @bobbg9041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you go over the area with a tac cloth before primer , or could you have skipped the primer all togather?

  • @kenmcf
    @kenmcf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that the makita gv5000? I have one...it has a black pad with it...ru saying just get some 7 inch sandpaper to remove flaking wood from my tongue and groove..do u know of a clean-strip pad for the makita that works?

  • @xheliculo
    @xheliculo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work!

  • @mdromano38
    @mdromano38 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you use a sprayer with the Sherwin Williams paint?

  • @marshagoldberg4347
    @marshagoldberg4347 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    my question in the video the siding has lots of unevenness in the grains , due to age and unfavorable weather conditions, how much of this can be evened out to obtain a smooth surface without the imperfections in the grain , otherwise to me it looks like the siding was never repaired

  • @joegulley3355
    @joegulley3355 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanation. Thank you

  • @diamondshowpigs9760
    @diamondshowpigs9760 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you ever painted a like color over brown? Wondering if the brown shows through even after the sanding and prep.

  • @nukustomzscreenprints
    @nukustomzscreenprints 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great work

  • @angelrey646
    @angelrey646 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to prime the entire wall or only chipped areas?

  • @paulfox4134
    @paulfox4134 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    does that little sander have a Velcro pad?

    • @ConorOKeefe99
      @ConorOKeefe99 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No it has a fitting that secures over the pad. Changing them out is pretty quick.

    • @paulfox4134
      @paulfox4134 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The only sanders I see have the Velcro pad, what brand is your, thank you for the video

    • @ConorOKeefe99
      @ConorOKeefe99 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulfox4134 Its a makita disc sander

  • @cwrowe
    @cwrowe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Preparation takes time and doing what you did is perfect. Remember painting should take time too. Brush and roll is the way to do it for residential. You get more paint on the surface then spraying therefore will last longer.

  • @TRUvoodoo
    @TRUvoodoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When you are sanding and scraping non-lead based paint, is it bad if the paint chips get on the ground or should you put down some kind of cloth to catch them?

  • @renethumann4871
    @renethumann4871 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you do the same with x90 siding.Do you have to get all the oil based paint of before priming and can you use exterior paint with primer

  • @miketwocoat
    @miketwocoat 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What pressure washer tip where you sing ??

  • @lesliebolan3771
    @lesliebolan3771 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you have to use peel seal on whole house or just areas you have sande

  • @kaylaholcombe6132
    @kaylaholcombe6132 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The house we are buying has quite a bit of peeling paint. Do I need to sand down to the original wood? Or do I just need to get the peeling parts off before priming?

  • @americaneaglepainting187
    @americaneaglepainting187 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What’s up with the short pressure washer handle and what type of tip you using? I am new to the painting business, having a little trouble estimating exterior paint jobs. Any tips with coming up with an accurate estimate would be greatly appreciated from one painter to another?!?!? 😀👍🏻

  • @JasonLeVega
    @JasonLeVega 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the tip about the lead!

  • @royjacobs6680
    @royjacobs6680 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Care to share the grit of sandpaper

  • @JacanaProductions
    @JacanaProductions 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for the video - does it not seem like overkill to use peel bond on entire house? Perhaps the siding was peeling more than my house where a quote I received said it would only be used on window frames that are badly peeling. This stuff is the bomb though according to all the vids and talk on the interwebs.

  • @LyndaMakara
    @LyndaMakara 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Can you just use paint with primer in it instead of using the peel bond primer?

    • @mcsqueegee81
      @mcsqueegee81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      pretty much always a bad idea to do that- using the "primer paint" when there's a bare wood or drywall surface, that needs primer 1st. don't skip actual primer! you'll be glad you did the proper job, instead of problems with it peeling easier etc. The primer paint is really just better covering, not actually for primer

    • @LyndaMakara
      @LyndaMakara 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mcsqueegee81 I wasn't painting bare wood. I repainted the wood trim on my house. I did do two coats of peel bond, followed by two coats of paint. FIVE YEARS LATER, the paint still looks fresh.

  • @calnevacars
    @calnevacars 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I use the disc sander in this video for paint removal on lightly textured engineered wood siding? What grit would I use?

    • @jerrybauer6736
      @jerrybauer6736 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      maybe maybe a wagner paint eater...but even that may be too aggressive. I try not to sand those products and just scrape and peel bond

  • @CarlosRodriguez-df8df
    @CarlosRodriguez-df8df 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video!!
    thanks

  • @rolpaisajismo6721
    @rolpaisajismo6721 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, which number of sanding disc shoud I use?

    • @JohnFanBoy
      @JohnFanBoy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you ever find out what number

  • @LuisSanchez-pt7qh
    @LuisSanchez-pt7qh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not sure if this was asked already but what’s the PSI of the pressure washer?

  • @RobBuccini
    @RobBuccini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you apply this product on cedar, for my outdoor shed?

    • @ConorOKeefe99
      @ConorOKeefe99 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes you can!

    • @RobBuccini
      @RobBuccini 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ConorOKeefe99 Thank you. And lastly, can you apply it to an oil-based stain formerly applied, (but will be washed and sanded down).

  • @jaysussman1116
    @jaysussman1116 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A good painter knows the preparation is the key to a good paint job. Good video. There was no rusted nail heads in your demonstration but had that been covered in the siding preparation the customer should be told that there is no paint product that can stop rust. Take off the rusted nail head with the drill bit from Nail Head Gone and replace with a stainless nail or screw if necessary.

    • @paulh7589
      @paulh7589 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      50,000 nail heads? Get serious. There are other ways.

    • @neoasura
      @neoasura 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@paulh7589 Yeah, I just put in new nails next to the old ones if necessary.

  • @Blackdog4818
    @Blackdog4818 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mom's house is peeling pretty badly. I have the option to use a powerwasher, but after doing my deck, and creating some divots and grooves, I'm thinking about buying an angle grinder with one of those nylon abrasive pads. Did you guys put down tarps? Thanks for the peel-bond tip.

  • @kgflicks
    @kgflicks 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would you use that primer on a deck surface?

    • @ConorOKeefe99
      @ConorOKeefe99 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I probably wouldn’t but I probably would use a stain not requiring a primer

  • @denisehutchison5531
    @denisehutchison5531 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see that this video is pretty old. I was curious about the color of Duration paint used on this house as I was planning to paint my own home a color like this. If anyone knows please share. Thanks

    • @franksilvy4630
      @franksilvy4630 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Excellent question, hopefully the author will follow up with another video or comment.

  • @larssahlen1522
    @larssahlen1522 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video!!

  • @kandacewoods6279
    @kandacewoods6279 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    what kind of sander is best for 3 step facia? it is so tough to get it sanded and smooth on the face and underneath. u got any tips?

  • @kodypelow7167
    @kodypelow7167 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question so i have a few houses cedar lap siding that have oil based stain on it some areas are chipping off and the last house i sanded then sprayed oil based primer and two coats of super paint but did not transition very well what you think would be a better route to go

    • @ConorOKeefe99
      @ConorOKeefe99 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It probably depends on the age of the siding, customer expectations and budget. Cheapest route would be to apply a solid latex stain. Doesnt need to be primed but likely wont last as long as a heavier bodied latex paint. If I went the latex paint route I would pretty much follow the video above. Pressure wash well, scrape/sand where needed, apply peel bond primer and then top coat with Duration or Emerald. I would only use Super Paint on a hardiboard or LP type situation.

    • @kodypelow7167
      @kodypelow7167 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Conor OKeefe what if it had oil based stain prior

    • @mikeeckhoff20
      @mikeeckhoff20 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kodypelow7167 latex stain will stick to oil if its not glossy fyi just test a spot and it will grab like primer

  • @williamavery9185
    @williamavery9185 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you lightly sand again before top coat? I want high longlasting colour shine. Oil based gloss or enamel ?

  • @CyberAnvil
    @CyberAnvil 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    problem in my area is rusting nails. after 2 years or so, the nail head rust starts bleeding through. some use a zinc spray and some touch up before with oil based paint. none seem that effective. your solution???

  • @debbieives9842
    @debbieives9842 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you use a seal bond primer on a door that is made of some kind of foam or should I use something else. what is the nam of this primer you are talking about in this video. thank you

    • @debbieives9842
      @debbieives9842 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      help PLEASE

    • @M_Ladd
      @M_Ladd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just watch the video and he not only tells you he shows you the damb picture! WTF he is not a priest!

  • @stephenwilson3327
    @stephenwilson3327 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anybody know what species of wood that is?

  • @tilbury9088
    @tilbury9088 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What brand of Scraper & Sander did you use? Also what grit of Sand Disc was used?

  • @jeffgoldberg3782
    @jeffgoldberg3782 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the paint isn't so damaged is primer necessary?

  • @herbsu4330
    @herbsu4330 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have chipped exterior wood stairs that I would like to repaint. Any tips on prep and finish coat?

  • @RutherfordNJDrywallRepair
    @RutherfordNJDrywallRepair 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent tips thanks, subbed!

  • @amymarie416
    @amymarie416 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can this be done in winter months? Maybe if its above freezing?

  • @jaimemartinez3866
    @jaimemartinez3866 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    what sander were you using?

  • @kenmcf
    @kenmcf 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a dust shroud you recommend? And does it work? I have the GV5000 and have a tongue and Groove wood house w/lead. I already have the HEPA vacuum from a previous part of the house(I used a paint shaver before but this part of the house is not that bad)...also trying out both Peel Bond and Peel Stop to see which works better. Also I was testing some MH ready patch for the peeled areas of paint, but if the peel bond fills then I will back of that..just testing one area for now...

  • @stateniland
    @stateniland 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    can the 'peel bonding primer' be tinted with a dark color? I'm repainting over a red to a dark gray.. ty Joe

  • @martinhernandez1691
    @martinhernandez1691 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where do I buy this sander?

    • @okeefepainting1023
      @okeefepainting1023  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      www.amazon.com/Makita-GV5010-5-Disc-Sander/dp/B000GAUXWE/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=makita+disc+sander&qid=1610115785&sr=8-1

  • @rodneycox5809
    @rodneycox5809 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    For small corner cracks in old filler what method is best before painting?

  • @alanlewis4247
    @alanlewis4247 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Job.

  • @chicagomodel5076
    @chicagomodel5076 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I send you some photos to see if my the wood paneling on my victorian is sustainable to be repainted.

  • @michaelraffaele7255
    @michaelraffaele7255 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What color is this?

  • @paulfox4134
    @paulfox4134 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    is it ok to sand cedar siding if it is textured?

  • @liquidthens
    @liquidthens 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You used Duration flat, any reason why you prefer that over woodscapes?

    • @jonmadden59
      @jonmadden59 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ones paint, other is a stain

    • @liquidthens
      @liquidthens 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jonmadden59 Woodscapes is a latex solid body stain meant for cedar. I understand that flat paint hides swirl marks from sanding, flat paint doesn't last as long.

  • @mbafmax
    @mbafmax 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    some good points,,, thanks

  • @shelleykeene973
    @shelleykeene973 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What color by Sherwin Williams did you use ?? We are painting our house this summer and I love that color !

    • @M_Ladd
      @M_Ladd 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pink!

  • @henryb.7723
    @henryb.7723 ปีที่แล้ว

    In general, how long can wood siding last if you stay on top of painting it?

    • @droxsinebarron320
      @droxsinebarron320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My house has wood siding and it is 103 years old. The siding is still in great condition also. But the paint that is on it has been there forever. It is peeling and chipping real bad.

  • @maxmohr7860
    @maxmohr7860 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So do you have to seal and prime? I would like to do this to make a good quality job? But thing is how do i bring that up to a customer? It’s like asking them do you want to pay me cheap for a half fast job or pay me full for best quality work...

  • @elizabethfairchild4278
    @elizabethfairchild4278 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Connor,
    We just bought a house and want to paint the exterior. The whole house window frames and all are dark green. The house has all cedar shingles. What sander would you recommend and further more to paint a cedar home does the paint need to be rolled on our can it be sprayed on? Also what primer would you recommend for a cedar home would it be the same one you used in the video and if so can it be sprayed on? The home is 2000 sq. Feet so we want an efficient way to do the project but want it to look amazing. Thank you!
    First Time Home Buyer

    • @M_Ladd
      @M_Ladd 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Try Sherman William's store! This man is not a priest or try some painting contractors!