Low Honor vs High Honor - Sadie Adler Gets Revenge For Her Husband (Mrs. Sadie Adler, Widow) RDR2
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- The minor difference in dialogue that happens (depending on if Arthur has low honor or high honor) between Sadie and Arthur after she finally gets her revenge on the O’Drsicolls just goes to show how detail oriented Rockstar has been when it comes to Red Dead Redemption 2.
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We begin our journey with “Evil” Arthur Morgan and the Van der Linde gang after a robbery goes horribly wrong causing them to have to flee from the western town of Blackwater with federal agents and the best hunters eager to collect the bounty on their heads. The gang must rob, steal and fight their way across the heartland of America in order to survive, but as each day passes dissension within the ranks begin to tear them apart. Our protagonist will eventually have to make a choice between his own ideals and his loyalty to the gang who raised him. Will he choose the path of least resistance or strike a fatal blow?
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[ Red Dead Redemption 2 - High Honor ( Good ) Arthur vs Low Honor ( Bad ) Arthur - Mrs. Sadie Adler, Widow - I, II - Revenge On O’driscolls - Help Sadie - Don’t Help Sadie - Go With Sadie - Stay Behind ]
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Outro Music “Honor For All” by John Licht & Daniel Licht
I think it is important to recognize that Arthur and Sadie were merely shells or husks of former people that were drained of almost all of their humanity and compassion by the world and by those around them.
Mrs. Sadie Adler died the night they murdered Jake - what happened to her in that cabin over the three days she was held captive only served to smother and sever the tenuous connections she may have retained after watching her one, true love die. Eventually, Arthur’s kind nature seemingly revived a very primitive sense of loyalty and empathy, at its most basic levels, within Sadie; she seemed to enjoy his company and companionship despite their similarly quiet stoicism juxtaposed with the bouts of bravado to mask what they viewed - internally - as weakness.
Arthur Morgan was mostly dead sometime before the game even began, perhaps the bulk of his death happened in one fell swoop the moment he joined Dutch and Hosea, or maybe it was a slow death marked by carrying out orders that compromised whatever sense of integrity he had before. Whatever the case may be, the sensation of losing one’s soul may seem terrifying when viewed from a distance, but is much easier to deny when it’s followed with copious amounts of chaser in the form of money, alcohol, sex, crime, or almost anything that releases the rush of adrenaline and endorphins.
Oddly enough, it’s that quickly fleeting sensation of excitement that often seals the fate of people like Sadie and Arthur. They are subconsciously programmed to react to specific external triggers and social cues - like an autopilot function - affording them the ability to coast through a rather bleak existence that is haphazardly pockmarked by dangerous yet alluring encounters that momentarily reanimate the more rudimentary portions of emotion and desire. Much like a modern zombie obliviously navigating a variety of terrains and roadblocks just to fulfill that base urge; Arthur and Sadie were set to a form of cruise control, allowing other people to guide their path and walling themselves off emotionally from the outside world, respectively.
I understand those who “ship” Arthur and Sadie, but would implore them to revisit each interaction between the two characters and recognize that on some level they were more connected with one another than with any other person in the gang. Their relationship was compelling and multifaceted and pressed the very limitations of what little humanity was left within each person. In some ways, what they had transcended a colloquial sense of love and was deeper and far more complex than any carnal act could possibly hope to achieve.
In a very psychological sense, Arthur and Sadie were the beneficiaries of a rare and divine miracle that most people in their circumstances will never experience; they not only witnessed a resurrection of personhood within each other but were the catalysts for said revival. Arthur saw, through Sadie’s story arch, the wake of his own actions and decisions rippling outward causing immeasurable and irreparable damage to anyone and everyone unfortunate enough to pass through his life. He saw in her, the countless victims left to wander through an existence devoid of anticipation or even contentment once they’d received the fatal touch of the gang’s actions in their lives. It was this realization that Sadie could just as easily been made a widow by almost any one of his ‘companions’ had they found her home before the O’Driscolls arrived.
For Sadie, she saw that shift occur gradually in Arthur which, for her, fanned the lone ember, beyond the anger and vengeance, beneath the self pity and borderline suicidal psychosis, that tiny speck of kindling that was still smoldering deep within her own heart. Where she once may have viewed this man with contempt - seemingly no better than the men who destroyed her life - she began to see beneath the flaws and the innumerable layers of cold calculation and nearly immovable barriers he’d erected which revealed a lost boy seeking approval, at any cost, and unconditional love from his ‘father.’ She watched as Arthur grew from an unflinchingly loyal and a dogmatic devotee of a false idol, to a man questioning the whole of his purpose and impact, and, ultimately, reaching his own peak maturation in confidently and with a renewed zeal daring to challenge and stand firmly in opposition to a man he’d been not just an apostle for, but, being an active evangelical missionary in service of for the vast majority of his life.
Through both their shared experiences and careful examinations of each other, Arthur and Sadie saw a universal truth in action; people can change. To me, personally, the story of these two as it stands is far more impactful and poignant than the interactions between Arthur and Charlotte, the widow, and vastly more integral in character development and expansion than that of Arthur and Mary Litton. It was the perfect love story for this game and I would not change or add a single, solitary scene in this game.
My goodness, this is a very thorough essay that feels like it could be the beginnings of a thesis paper.
Cheng Teoh lol, my apologies, I tend to get carried away when writing. My daughter never asks me to proofread her essays anymore... can’t imagine why?!
You should have made an essay video dude. Not being snarky when I say that, either. I tend to be verbose, myself, so I understand. This game has a ridiculous amount to unpack. That’s what makes it great.
Mrs. Arthur Morgan I’ve toyed with the idea of creating a channel and doing stuff like that, however, being a southerner (born and raised in NC) I have a noticeable accent. As much as I’d like to think that shouldn’t matter, even I, myself, am guilty of making snap judgments about people based on their dialect and inflection; I think most people do the same thing. Unfortunately, I fear most people would be turned off by my accent - there isn’t a plethora of southern content creators on the platform - but maybe I’m wrong I hope so.
@@thermscissorpunch1787 as much as I laughed at the fact you wrote a legitimate essay, I really think you should make videos about that. Id find it interesting at least :)
Who else tried to loot all those bodies but then got interrupted by the law?
ME me ME! XD
Me LOL but I waited for them to leave then went back and looted all the place.
It was worth it ;)
Bloody bounty hunters
I was pissed lol the law cost me from looting my $22.16 from all those bodies!
I totally cried at the end! They killed my horse boocaulkhey! 😭 and that BASTARD MICAH! I JUST HATE THAT LITTLE RAT SO MUCH! I haven't even played John's story yet, I'm heartbroken! Damn you rockstar for making a great game. Lol
So many optional main missions, I wish that you could choose to not break Micah out of jail and just leave the rat to rot in his own filth
Or that you could kill him as Arthur instead of John.
From his first sentence in the game, I knew he was a slimey dirtbag.
@@justinpowell3174'It's me micah.'
There should've been an option to decline rescuing Micah yourself, forcing one of the other gang members to rescue him. I know you all hate Micah, but killing him early will create a paradox, preventing Dutch from going insane due to him ratting out the Saint Denis bank heist. But still, even declining will allow Arthur and Lenny to have "A Quiet Time" themselves.
The rest of the story would be shit if that mission were optional. Glad you're not a game developer xD
I could never turn Sadie, Charles, Hosea or Lenny down
Came back two years later and wanted to see how this comment was doing and I just wanna say
Hi
SPOLIER.
Well said.
R.I. .P to Hosea and Lenny.
Abigail too. I heard her talking to Jack about his clothes, went and talked to her, gave her 10 dollars to get him clothes.
Completely missed it on my first play through because I spent so much time exploring instead of taking in the fine details around the camp.
John?
@@83uwb it's really early in the game. Before you leave horseshoe overlook, Jack will be playing and she'll be watching him. Then she'll say something about him looking like a mess and if she had a couple dollars she could clothe him. You can accept or decline. I accepted and Arthur pulls out some cash and gives it to her.
I was a dick to everyone except them and John
I wish Javier was not so blind of loyality. He could have been better than that.
Bizza did he even know what happened? From his perspective it was him running in to telly them about the Pinkertons then everyone was pointing guns at each other.
He never heard Arthur revealing Micah was a rat as he was a lookout. To him it just looked like that John Arthur and Grimshaw were betraying the gang. Plus Javier never fully pointed jis gun at John or Arthur.
And bill well, he was the dumbarse in the gang
Javier's fate was sadly already decided in RDR1
Javier dies in rd1 killed by john
Arthur, Sadie, John, Charles, and Hosea were the best campmates.
Jack was lit
@@themanjambam you mean Lnyne?
Lenny???
Khang Yeng lenny, where are you?
Even Uncle
"The competition ain't too fierce"
Even low honor Arthur is a master of humorous self-deprecation
That's actually not self-deprecation. He is calling other gang members shit people basically.
@@Mcquiz95 That's the joke.
Yes, that's still self-deprecation. He's saying he's "her best friend" because she only deals with shit people, and not because of any merit on his part. Using humorous self-deprecation as a way to insult others is *still* self-deprecation. It's also highly humorous when well done. Like here.
That's high honor dialogue though
@@mademansandro 6:30 the same dialog in both paths
Arthur is just a cool Guy
"Confusing man" - Low honor
"Besides Jake, your the best man" - High Honor
the best friend- low honor you mean
lol, yep that's it. That's the one and only difference, this video still gets over a million views, 10k likes and everyone gushing over how amazing this is when...that's it, that's all there is. Great game, but stuff like this really feels like Rockstar phoned it in but people don't seem to care.
It's also the face he makes. Low honor Arthur answers Sadie with a serious face, while high honor Arthur does so smilingly. I think that's quite a detail
@XKillO8X "you won't last long" oh no, somebody is being a tough guy on the internet. We better watch ourselves.
@XKillO8X GoW is Goty, not Rdr2
This is probably the only game that made me sorry for being a bad guy at the end
I dont i kill everyone i see
I robbed pretty much every person I saw.
Anyone made a snarky comment at me without me doing anything wrong? BAM.
Sometimes I'd like a person's hat and kill them for it.
Other times I'd strangle people for getting too close to my horse.
If I'd lost a bet in a shooting competition, I'd just rob the dude and get my money back.
Stores, Trains, Banks. I'd rob everything that I could in hopes of getting some extra cash for the crew, but I'd never commit a crime in the state that we were camped in. Brings too much attention to us.
Life was easy.
Until that dreadful day.
My disk got scratched by my brother and I can't play the game anymore. That sucked.
Forced him to pay for it though. He's not out of Uni yet and he's earning nothing, but it's better to teach him early how to be responsible for your own actions.
Uh criminals can have morals. I did evil shit when they deserved it personally
I only did some heinous ass shit to the people who deserved it. I burned the incest couple alive, I looted Braithwaite after she died, and whatever shopkeeper was an all-around asshole got robbed (but never killed).
Pizza Boy wow, so being the good guy, making Arthur a likable character, and getting a gratifying ending makes you a pussy, great logic there
"What happens if I play with high honor?"
RDR2: Well, you get discounts at every store and stable, people are nicer to you, there's a better ending to the game, you get a cool grip for the cattleman revolver, certain outfits in stores will become available and you get to play a bunch of really dope missions that you wouldn't otherwise!
"What if I play with low honor?"
RDR2: There's a cool grip for the double action revolver.
that's why i always replay with low honor!
To add to your point, someone blasts someone in the face if someone plays with low honour. Also, someone has a plan and someone just need to have some goddamn faith.
Oogly Boogly well, if u have low honor, you get more stuff from looting corpses.
Wait can't you get the cool grip for the double action revolver by killing all of the legendary gunslingers? Because I managed to get it with high honor.
Hacks 4 Life yeah that’s how you get it. People think you need low honour but you don’t
"We're more ghosts than people." That sentence never rang more true for the two of them. Kind of sums them up if you think about it.
@Nippy Flippy The two of them USED to be people. Were with the loves of thier lives. Arthur was loyal to Dutch his whole life and was heartbroken at the end. Sadie became broken the minute the ODriscolls killed Jake. So they don't really feel human. They feel.. like ghosts.
@Nippy Flippy They both have nothing left to live for. No humanity
Imagine the love that Sadie had for her husband to make her a killing machine full of hate.
Seriously
@@wojciech9538 Do you understand what Mary Sue means? It does not mean powerful character, it means flawless character. And someone who has as his only motivation revenge and is solving it by murdering people is certainly not flawless.
@@wojciech9538 Sadie is not an outlaw. She is ordinary woman put in position of outlaw. The whole point is in the end that she is not able to get away from camp, from her revenge, but she is pursuing it. And when the gang falls apart, she is seeking her death as bounty hunter.
@@user-yo4bo5ww2y I wouldnt say seeking her death but merely trying to get by. With her time with the gang and Arthur she became a rugged survivalist and seasoned gunfighter. Traits and skills that can find her a lot of work, including bounty hunting.
@@dm3402 I would say that she is seeking her death. She has no reason to live. Everyone she cared about is gone and she was not able to find anyone to care about during all those years (and she is someone who needs it, Jackie for example). While Charles has a plan to go to Cannada and live a peaceful life. She is not able to do so, because she has nothing to care about.
Sadie didn't seem that interesting in the trailers, but she was without a doubt one of the best characters in the game.
Agreed.
Your first mission with her had me in stitches while after rhodes. But when the camp they in gets attacked , and she turns in to john wick.liked her some more
No
Best character transformation apart from dutch
If one of the best characters u mean rely solely on plot armor to do something then yeah she was.
I was legit feeling bad at the thought of turning Sadie down.
I turned her down and didn't care at all because revenge is a fools errand
@Viper my honor is almost full and i am just in chapter 3
@Viper ya tbh that didn’t make any sense! Arthur wouldn’t have done it I don’t think, there’s no way, it’s the main cause of his conflict with Dutch, his one time closest friend.
At this point of my first playthrough, I had max honor, and I knew Arthur will die in a couple of main missions, and I did every side mission I could too.. I helped everyone, downes, sadie, the debtors, I just helped everyone, because I knew Arthur was dying, had nothing to lose. Didn't even came back for money, I just covered John.
@@RapRapKun same, my thoughts were if I am going to die a horrible man I might as well help others even if it was dangerous because I’m going to die anyway. I didn’t go back for the money since it would be of no use to me. I saw my horse die and that was sad, I made my last stand on top of the mountain angry at the Pinkertons. At the end I died on a mountain staring out into the sun. A hell of a way to go out.
You missed a difference. If you have high honor and agree to help Sadie, instead of saying "'You, Me , and John"
He instead mentions Abigail, Jack and John. That's what I got.
Yes, exactly what I thought
1:45
@@lordeddy05 Yes. The same line but with a different action. The dialogue at Max Honor is different
Same here.
I got that.
Low honor = friendzone
High honor = friendzone but with high honor
Not really a friend zone since Arthur dosen't show attraction to Sadie at all throughout the game.
@@EpicMinecraftFail its a joke lol
Arthur gay
Overlord 2962 WOAHHHHHH. NICE!
Overlord 2962 Nope
Sadie and Arthur are a great team
logan da warlock i was like she’s the perfect women Arthur. If he didn’t get TB, I think she would’ve helped him kill Micah and probably ran away with him. She would’ve kept him on a strict path of bounty hunting and not robbing banks
@@captaintre44
I feel Arthur would have tried to go back to Mary under the right circumstances. He wants to be with her more than anything! Even though she uses him....he kinda likes it. Helping Mary makes Arthur have a sense of fulfillment in life.
xvxvcaspervxvx honestly in the game I was conflicted. I did like Mary for Arthur and with
Her I understood that Arthur wasn’t a bad guy and we saw he loved Mary. I liked Mary more than Sadie because Arthur’s love for her reminded me how much I loved an ex
Y'all so romantic 💖 ^^^ Ohhh.... Le romance...
Ikr
Finally non-caveman Arthur on TH-cam
I know, no originality, he's an outlaw not a fucking hobo.
Zakku I went with that for a while too, then switched to level 1 beard and chops with level 5 handlebar moustache, and it is awesome
@@helloman1051 Non caveman mean beardless or any kind of beard that doesn't make you look like caveman or hobo, that's it.
I did the same till chapter 5, then after the thing happened it seemed fitting to not really care anymore
I got the stubble
This, is how you write a really strong female protagonist, a woman who can kick ass, but is still just the teeniest bit vulnerable. Sadie, along with the majority of RD2 women are great. Exactly what'd you expect out of a game like this. Strong, brave, tough, with just the smallest bit of emotion. Even the men in this game are written so well, they feel like real people sometimes.
Yes absolutely agree. It's sad how writers now seem to have lost the ability to write believable strong female protagonist that can stand on their own merit instead of having to show their "strength" by putting down and belittling other characters around them in order to pump themselves up [ ie. the newest Dr Who, Supergirl .. and many other long loved series like SW & Star Trek Dis... ]
@@ChengTeoh absolutely right
It's really the reason I'm going to avoid watching the MCU Captain Marvel and possibly any of the upcoming MCU movies so that I'll retain the memories of the good times when stories took precedent over pushing certain agendas. Here are a few great female protagonist in movies just off the top of my head that I'd more prefer to watch for their strong characterization that makes sense, for example Domino, Ellen Ripley in Alien & Aliens & Furiosa in Mad Max Fury Road. I don't know what's happened to Hollywood writers but I've been finding myself watching less and less movies in the theaters and just hiding out watching ridiculous anime series like JoJo just for some escapism. XD
@@ChengTeoh duuuuude yout predicted the future
I think the main thing is that she's not just a badass woman, she's a very real, fleshed out character with her own motivations and flaws. It's those aspects of her that make her so beloved and relatable, even if she is a little bloodthirsty.
I do agree, a lot of people could learn good character writing from this game.
"The best man I've known"
What kind of awful person can play Arthur as low honor?
BUT BUT....... DAMN MONEYSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Oh I played the game shooting random people
I kill dogs
_king_of_strange _ Them bounty hunters dogs
@@Kirokill1 no. All dogs. And cats. Just everything. You that one bounty mission where you pick up a bounty and he has a family? I killed his wife and i would've killed his son but the game didn't let me.
With high honor he will not mention money at all, not for himself or whatever, when you agree to help Sadie. He will just ask her to help John, Ab and Jack when the time comes. High honor gives your more awesome dialog in my opinion. Nothing (!!) in dis game is less then awesome, some is just more awesome then others. Cheers!
I was about to ask where that was because that's what I ended up getting myself in my playthrough. Glad I wasn't the only one
Yeah, his asking her to help Abigail, Jack, and John with no mention of money is the dialog I had as well.
Never thought about there being a difference in dialog between levels of good honor. Wonder what other changes there might be...
@@skatepulsar At the mission where you and John rig the bridge, there's a line of dialog about what John needs. Low-honor Arthur says 'You need money, you've got a family' and high-honor Arthur reverses it, 'You have a family, you need money.'
Don't know about anyone else but I think the elk/wolf cutscenes made for some pretty saucy transitions. The music gives
me kind of a melancholy feeling and the representation of Arthur and these animals is great. Better than staring at a black
screen waiting for the game to load.
I had never seen the wolf transitions before! Good thing I've already decided to go low honour this second playthrough
Honestly I thought those transitions were beautifully done, I had the deer/elk high honour one, it was so movie like Rockstar really done an amazing job
It was, until somehow after the mission where you jump off the cliff during chapter 6, it played the buck scene. Somehow I died during the scene because it cut out and the death began. I realized that after the scene, you have a campfire set up, and I somehow ran into it during the scene
It’s a deer and coyote
Ayy Lmao bruh it’s a wolf. Even Rockstar confirmed it.
Mrs. Adler deserve her own spin off story DLC! She had the best character development and evolution in the game. From a traumatized widow she become a badass psycho and addicted to killing!
I hope she puts her gun down honestly. It's only a matter of time until she takes a shot wound she won't walk away from. I hope she gets over her trauma and doesn't let it kill her.
KiiNG 561 loved mafia 3
She is the most overrated character ever.
Men vad fan hot asf tho
nah shes just a blood lust for revenge.. after that.. shes cool.. slightly still fucked up tho lol
I wanna a prequel of rdr2 where it actually shows the “good ‘ol’ days” of the van der linde gang
Or a dlc
Yes! We would get to play as Hosea. Maybe when John was just coming into the mix? We'd have Arthur&Eliza or Arthur&Mary, Dutch with Annabelle and Hosea with Bessie at O'Creagh's run. Maybe there'd be Trelawny, Colm O'Driscoll, Grimshaw and uncle backstory too!
Would be really cute if kid John had a fading scottish accent, since his father was scottish. But it wouldn't be Red dead redemption without Rob, so idk.
RDR3 should be about young Dutch and the start of the Van der linde gang
Honestly to keep with the theme of the games where the protagonist dies and gets redemption I think maybe one of the callender's boys,Davey because his death begins rdr2 or Mac (I think this would be a better choice) who was killed after the Blackwater massacre.
@@larryturtleking4495 yeah and it could explain the black water massacre and what really happened
Damnnnn that low honor gets you friendzoned lmaooo
I lol'ed so hard lmfaoooooo
Lol well all nice guys have low honor
Because having high honor gets you that p-p-p-pussy 😛
@@loongundeadboi9532 found ya neckbeard
But neither high or low honor Arthur are interested in Saddie.
People who say no are either speed running or doing a choice video
Everyone else is helping here
I said no because I was trying to go for high morale.
Buzzed Dong what that makes no sense
I didn't go because I genuinely felt like I had settled everything with that gang. We watched colm swing. I felt like seeing as sick as Arthur had gotten in the end I was hoping he could get sadie to put her hate down and try to run away to a life she was still young enough looking to have
PS4 Joker Yes it does. Not everyone has to play your style.
Buzzed Dong yeah but how is not helping a woman finally get closure and not just a woman but one of the only people you can trust in a gang of outlaws going to give you a higher morale
Yo that one line that Sadie Adler says depending on Honor is game changing
Glad you noticed the difference. There are some who don't get it and think it's the same. XD
When Arthur died I was hoping we could play as Sadie, she seemed like the most badass option compared to John that had obligations like his family.
I expected john, I didn't expect a fully fleshed out epilog
Gabe Merritt I also played the first game so I already had the full experience with John.
Nah I preferred the epilogue and that you got john not sadie
Because it bridges the gap between red dead 1 and 2 but it's pointless unless red dead 3 features jack and old lady sadie
Why everyone turn there backs on John he's a good character everyone just likes hating him now fuck the haters
Yeah. I got bored playing John. I just finished RDR and that boredom carried on into it. Probably also because I knew the ending already. Nobody really likes Jack but I hope if there is a next game it’s set in WW1 and we get to see him apply his outlaw skills as a soldier or spy.
If they make a sequel DLC for RDR2 I either want to see a Jack sequel or a Sadie sequel.
Or a Dutch sequel
They. Have to come back with jack he’s technically the last one out of the gang an he killed a retired sheriff it shouldn’t end there
@@zackflixmusic3082 dutch *prequel*
Lamarr Muse I don’t see no way to continue jack, by that time ww1 was imminent, so there be no way to continue his story unless they drafted him into the army.
@@marcpeyper151 sorry that's it
SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS!!!!!!!!!! I feel like after sadie lost her husband the only one that got to the same level of her husband was arthur and she loved him just like she did with her husband not the same way but it just shows that she cared for Arthur more than anyone and the reason she sought revenge against micha in the end was not because he's a snitch or anything but because he kills arthur
Micha didn't really kill arthur, Arthur died from tuberculosis. Unless of course you got the low honor ending.
dank4 meme what it was Micah was a real threat to John and his family. He did say after Arthur was dead he was gonna go after John.
Micah and all the stress from all his bullshit only made the TB worse, quicker. The doctor told Arthur he needed rest, Dutch and micah didn't allow him to even get a little. No matter the ending, Arthur was pushed to a quick demise by tb no matter what by micah kicking a sick mans ass.
I wanted Arthur and Sadie to be together
@@Gamerfan4317 It technically was TB but really it was Micah. If Micah hadn't gone and just beat the shit out of Arthur he would have lived longer.
1:42 Sadie’s reaction is heartbreaking, for a second she thinks Arthur has convinced himself he’s going to survive his TB, but he corrects her shortly after that.
"We're more ghosts than people" That line always hits hard. It's like they Both know and accepcted that their souls are broken beyond repair...
"Revenge is a fool's game" so true
So true
Not really
but still, crime must be punished.
@@IKnowImGayWhenISayThisBut they call it a fool's errand because often people drown themselves in stress, guilt, and hate which destroys them as humans in the long run. Especially of you've got people you care about and much to lose, you have to be strong for them. That's why it's a "fool's errand".
Yeah, that's something Arthur always preached but then he just decides to help sadie execute her revenge, luckily you can choose not to
I love how the game has it’s own way of showing honor in how someone plays. Arthur so late into the story either looks like a disembodied corpse, or a man short on time who always acted as if it were his last day.
The game either bluntly shows the fact he dies slowly, or embraces it and shows Arthur as an almost whole man, rather than a husk.
I'll never understand gold guns
Dayrahl They are really overrated, and look really bad in my opinion
I prefer black with gold ingraving
Thomas sierra I’d go with a blued finish with some minor engravings on the stock or grip
*OSTENTATION*
Canal do Pedro Word of the day
Please show how scarred micah looks in the low honor epilogue, never seen it so far.
Of course i will, please be patient with me. Doing these take time since I have to do a low honor & high honor run simultaneously. XD
@@ChengTeoh sure, have fun :D
@@killerkuerbis6845 YOU JUST GOT TO KEEP FAITH IN CHENG TEOH
Hyper Speed WE JUST NEED A LITTLE MORE TIME fOR THE VIDEOS ARTHUR
Cousin Kyle You got to believe! Cheng Teoh’s got PLAN!!! Lol 😂
Years later hearing "We're more ghosts than people" still cuts deep. Sadie and Arthur shared an unspoken bond that I find beautiful and heartbreaking all at once.
Damn you can really see Arthur dying
TB was a huge deal at that time, if you got it it’s pretty much a death sentence
When was a antibiotic first create?
7:31 Oh cool, it’s Sean Bean.
Damn, never noticed the resemblance. It's pretty striking.
@@milktree4545 they have the same endings too..
Damn...they both die too.
What
The soundtrack in that scene reminded me of Game Of Thrones too.
In my second playthrough Micah rotted in Strawberry jail, Arthur stayed happy with the gang at camp all with great health, happily ever after
stonesoundjam AI you just didn’t progress the story? Hardly a playthrough is it
Guishe am I incorrect? It isn’t really a playthrough...
@@ellisbarnett0292 it’s a joke dude
@@ellisbarnett0292 that doesn’t mean he still didn’t do it though.
@@luhbot you’re a joke, mate. Get out my notifications.
This is the moment that made me like sadie as a character. it just shows how much she has changed and who she really is. up until this point I just thought the she was like the female version of micah; a violent, unstable individual with an itchy trigger finger. but here in this scene I saw that she was more than that, I saw that behind the violence, killing, anger, and passionate hatred towards colm and his men, was a poor, broken woman who was all alone.
I'm totally digging this series. The different responses are subtle, yet quite significant. I will patiently wait for more :)
**Food meter is at white**
Abigail: *Arthur we need more food*
Well look how skinny john is
When she said that I brought in a ton of food
I wonder why this comment has so many likes
Was really hoping for it
Probably would’ve if Arthur never got TB 😭
Rockstar did, but they didn't feel like the story needed any of it so they took it out.
Michael Slenderman really? Is there proof somewhere? (Not tryna be a smart ass)
@@MICQUIAMBAO I would like to know where
Sadie could so be the main character in RDR3 or they could be a DLC for her
I'd be up for a new RDR, but I don't think it's going to happen. The story of John and Arthur seems pretty complete after RDR1 & RDR2. Maybe Jack & Sadie could make for an interesting third game.
Cheng Teoh we can just wait i guess 🙃
But what will be their redemption?
Hmm i don't think a third Rdr3 would be happen they can't really go further in the future unless they make a game about Dutch and Colm idk but DLC is possible
No I think it's not a good idea bro
I love that Sadie is willing to help John and his family, regardless of your help/honour. She's a damn good person still, under all that blood and gore lol
"We're more ghosts than people" is one of the most heartbreaking lines in the game
It shows how broken both of them are.
One is sedie.
She wants to die after the death of his beloved husband.
She simply can't stand that pain.
Arthur's time has sadly come even though there is still much he could've and wanted to do...
Low Honor 6:16________7:29 High Honor
That tiny bit of difference in dialogue meant a lot.
It sure does! I still don't understand some people in the comments saying that there was no difference at all, lol. Seriously some people just don't get that the minor change in dialogue just changes the entire tone of the scene. I wonder if they understand nuances or would they just prefer being bashed over the head with heavy handedness.
Oh. I always thought to decline would be Arthur going: "What? No! Are you insane? I ain't doing that!" but now that I actually see the dialogue it kinda fights his character WAY more, he isn't about revenge.
I fuckin loved Sadie and Charles, im so glad theyre the ones who stuck with John in the end.
Arthur never mentioned money to Sadie for me. All he wanted was her to get John and his family to safety.
Who wouldnt want to help her shes beautiful violent sexy friendly a damn good friend loyal to arthur not the gang of course youll help her
I don't get why people keep calling her sexy, she's not ugly but she's definitely not a Jessica Rabbit.
Idiots that think "Oh muh gawd, feminism"
Thoma[S]antiago she’s not too good looking but the way she plays out in the game such as her attitude and personality make her sexy in more than just a physical way.
Howya Doin tf does feminism have to do with finding someone attractive? I don’t know what you got against feminist but Jesus relax your the one mentioning feminism not the other way around
@@yaayeet2590 Re-read my comment. Did you not see the "quotation marks" I put there? I said it's only people that think it's because of feminism.
Kills someone like a psycho.
Immediately starts talking about her past and husband like nothing happened.
in the beginning w good honor he tells her to help john abigail and jack escape
Can I just say, Sadie's actress was phenomenal. She somehow managed to make a simultaneously badass, but broken, performance. The way her voice always shudders and cracks, even when she's angry or laughing, keeps reminding you that behind her hardened exterior, she's hurting in ways no one should ever have to experience.
I seem to recall her voice being more firm and clear in the Epilogue. It fits with her "nothing left to lose, nowhere left to go" outlook, but also shows she's more together than before. Fitting, considering she finally gives up on trying to die by the end, having a new outlook, an actual idea of what to do with herself, and most importantly, hope.
Liked the video because I understand the time and effort it takes to capture both outcomes. Thank you for going the extra mile.
Thanks so much for the kind words. They do take time but it is well worth the effort. :D
I'm pretty sure you just save before each mission and reload with the cheat code that maximizes your high or low honor. But yeah each mission lasts about 15 minutes both times.
Sadie Adler is probably one of my favorite characters in all of video games.
6:22 low honnor : Sadie friendzoned Arthur
7:37 high honnor : Sadie shows her love to Arthur.
nah, not really.
There's also a difference in the starting conversations with high honor. Arthur doesn't talk about getting the money, he just talks about letting John, Abigail, and Jack have a real life outside of the gang.
The best one will always be when Arthur opens up about his wife and kid to the Nun.
He tells his tragic history to the Chief, Rains Fall, a little earlier, and in a really sad way...
7:09 is surprisingly bad horse animation
Also its annoying how something that happens in the middle of nowhere immediately brings the cops around....
or bounty hunters
Okay, I think part of what makes so many characters of RDR2 so good is the fact that they dared to give them some self-awareness (perhaps a bit over much).
Sadie and Arthur deep down know that they are (or in Sadie's case, have become) violent people who can't live normal lives, and they cop to it whenever it is suggested otherwise by anyone. Granted, they also display time and again that they probably don't give themselves enough credit (Especially if you play an Honorable Arthur), but the fact that they are aware that they are not normal, that they are not good, and that they don't think they can be even if the opportunity presented itself, is an aspect of character that really isn't displayed that often when you think about it. At least, not displayed so earnestly and with such genuine belief from the characters themselves. That they are aware enough of themselves as people, and are willing to admit what they are aware of to themselves and others.
Like, so much of what is great, here, is the fact that Sadie and Arthur know exactly who and what they are, and are willing to talk about that with each other.
I completely agree with you, my friend; Arthur and Sadie were merely shells or husks of former people that were drained of almost all of their humanity and compassion by the world and by those around them.
Mrs. Sadie Adler died the night they murdered Jake - what happened to her in that cabin over the three days she was held captive only served to smother and sever the tenuous connections she may have retained after watching her one, true love die. Eventually, Arthur’s kind nature seemingly revived a very primitive sense of loyalty and empathy, at its most basic levels, within Sadie; she seemed to enjoy his company and companionship despite their similarly quiet stoicism juxtaposed with the bouts of bravado to mask what they viewed - internally - as weakness.
Arthur Morgan was mostly dead sometime before the game even began, perhaps the bulk of his death happened in one fell swoop the moment he joined Dutch and Hosea, or maybe it was a slow death marked by carrying out orders that compromised whatever sense of integrity he had before. Whatever the case may be, the sensation of losing one’s soul may seem terrifying when viewed from a distance, but is much easier to deny when it’s followed with copious amounts of chaser in the form of money, alcohol, sex, crime, or almost anything that releases the rush of adrenaline and endorphins.
Oddly enough, it’s that quickly fleeting sensation of excitement that often seals the fate of people like Sadie and Arthur. They are subconsciously programmed to react to specific external triggers and social cues - like an autopilot function - affording them the ability to coast through a rather bleak existence that is haphazardly pockmarked by dangerous yet alluring encounters that momentarily reanimate the more rudimentary portions of emotion and desire. Much like a modern zombie obliviously navigating a variety of terrains and roadblocks just to fulfill that base urge; Arthur and Sadie were set to a form of cruise control, allowing other people to guide their path and walling themselves off emotionally from the outside world, respectively.
I understand those who “ship” Arthur and Sadie, but would implore them to revisit each interaction between the two characters and recognize that on some level they were more connected with one another than with any other person in the gang. Their relationship was compelling and multifaceted and pressed the very limitations of what little humanity was left within each person. In some ways, what they had transcended a colloquial sense of love and was deeper and far more complex than any carnal act could possibly hope to achieve.
In a very psychological sense, Arthur and Sadie were the beneficiaries of a rare and divine miracle that most people in their circumstances will never experience; they not only witnessed a resurrection of personhood within each other but were the catalysts for said revival. Arthur saw, through Sadie’s story arch, the wake of his own actions and decisions rippling outward causing immeasurable and irreparable damage to anyone and everyone unfortunate enough to pass through his life. He saw in her, the countless victims left to wander through an existence devoid of anticipation or even contentment once they’d received the fatal touch of the gang’s actions in their lives. It was this realization that Sadie could just as easily been made a widow by almost any one of his ‘companions’ had they found her home before the O’Driscolls arrived.
For Sadie, she saw that shift occur gradually in Arthur which, for her, fanned the lone ember, beyond the anger and vengeance, beneath the self pity and borderline suicidal psychosis, that tiny speck of kindling that was still smoldering deep within her own heart. Where she once may have viewed this man with contempt - seemingly no better than the men who destroyed her life - she began to see beneath the flaws and the innumerable layers of cold calculation and nearly immovable barriers he’d erected which revealed a lost boy seeking approval, at any cost, and unconditional love from his ‘father.’ She watched as Arthur grew from an unflinchingly loyal and a dogmatic devotee of a false idol, to a man questioning the whole of his purpose and impact, and, ultimately, reaching his own peak maturation in confidently and with a renewed zeal daring to challenge and stand firmly in opposition to a man he’d been not just an apostle for, but, being an active evangelical missionary in service of for the vast majority of his life.
Through both their shared experiences and careful examinations of each other, Arthur and Sadie saw a universal truth in action; people can change. To me, personally, the story of these two as it stands is far more impactful and poignant than the interactions between Arthur and Charlotte, the widow, and vastly more integral in character development and expansion than that of Arthur and Mary Litton. It was the perfect love story for this game and I would not change or add a single, solitary scene in this game.
@@thermscissorpunch1787 that is what i call a lot of text man
Sadie: I need someone to ride with me.
Arthur: *What?*
Sadie: You heard me, get on that horse, let’s ride.
Arthur: Oh, I thought you were implying that we hav- *r34 has joined chat*
Arthur x Sadie!!! 🥰 I ship!!!
Sadly RIP 😭
No love for Arthur x Charles?
Best bromance ever! You know Charles was heartbroken in the end!
@WorldUnited
Arthur with anyone really....I just want to see him happy for a change.
@@xvxvcaspervxvx even Arthur × Jack? Tf
@@Ok-eg8dg
If Arthur lived long enough to see John die; then at least Jack would have his uncle Arthur to help him!
@@xvxvcaspervxvx if John died when Arthur was alive, he probably would've died aswell. Or maybe since they both are skilled, they could defeat everyone and able to escape
She is my new crush in the world of games
I don't believe it duch would rather believe micha a person who has been riding with the gang for a couple of months than aurther who has been with the gang for years and the most loyal to duch.
I guess it's because Micah saved Dutch's life (previously in the timeline before this game). Dutch might feel indebted to Micah or Dutch really knows Micah is a snitch and is saving himself.
Dutch is a cult leader. He doesn't "believe" Micah. Micah remains useful to him. Arthur would have left if he survived, while Micah would kill anyone to keep in Dutch's good side. That's the same thing they did in the Soviet Union. Dutch is the most evil sack of shit in this game, make no mistake about that.
@@IHateHandleNames Exactly. Arthur once wrote in his journal that Hosea felt like a father. A real father- a human who knew love and kindness. And Dutch... Dutch was something else.
He may not be a sociopath, a psychopath, or a narcissist, but he's corrupt, manipulative. Insane. His sense of compassion and truth twisted and bent his mind until few thoughts could slip past the insanity.
@@ezziba8240 that's almost the definition for sociopath
@@michaelking2050 - Almost, but not really; in the end, Arthur affected him with his words.
Dutch wandered off that mountain in a haze of indecisive confusion, troubled by the idea that his plan didn't work and it was *his* fault. No sociopath would care like that; they'd rage about the fact that their future in the tropics failed, sure. Sociopaths can get angry, but they don't get mentally incapacitated by emotion. Dutch did.
I truly think that this game was extremely meaningful, just like this scene. It shows the toll that this has taken in them, and how they are almost not human. But they revive the emotion in one another, in small ways.
And this is why these types of games are important. They show depth, and important morals. This game, along with games like Detroit: Become Human and Undertale, are some of my favorites because they make you question yourself. Who are you in this world? Other games say “You’re a super hero” or “Your a special operative” and you accept that. You are handed this persona that you blatantly accept, and you go play the game without a thought. But these games push the boundaries. They say “You are Arthur Morgan”
And they say nothing more. Lore factors in, of course, but it is your choice what to do with yourself. You could feasibly murder everyone you come across, but you don’t. At least, not on the actual play through where you make choices that will influence your outcome. It matters what you do. Some people will say “Oh, the game ends up the same way in the end” and that is true. The actual story of the game stays the same. But isn’t that the same with real life? You’re born, you live, you die. It’s the experiences, the choices you make that influence who you are. That’s why they implemented the honor system. It feels rewarding to most people, to be on the good side rather than the bad. You want to feel assured that you are doing the right thing, and that you have set your character on a good path. Along the way, you experience love, hate, joy, sadness, humor, stress. And at the end you realize that not just your character feels this. You as a person feel what the character is feeling, you learn all the lessons...
But most people just go “wow what a game”
They don’t see what others see. And that’s the sad part, is that many people say how it was a really good game that made them feel something, but they don’t really feel it. They experience an emotion based on outside stimuli, which is the definition of feeling something, yes. But they feel the moment. They feel sad *that* something happened, not *because* something happened. It’s like saying “Oh I’m sad that they *killed him off* ” rather than “I’m sad that *he died* ” and that means something. You have to put yourself into their world. A game should make you feel like you are Arthur Morgan, rather than you are controlling him, *playing* as him.
It’s not just a game. It’s an experience. A memory. You can look at art, yes. But the question is...
Can you understand it?
Honestly. Ive never cried before like i did when playing rdr2. This made the lump in my throat bigger than it ever was. I actually miss arthur. What a legend. Rip arthur morgan ❤️
Arthur, Charles, Sadie, John, Lenny, Hosea, Dutch before chapter 4, and ESPECIALLY my boy Jack were my favorite gang members
Never a moment where she is so beautiful then covered in the blood of her enemies
Low honor: You’re Sadies best friend. High honor: You’re the best friend someone could have.
My Arthur dreams were of a stag
Mr. Mate it’s not a wolf it’s a coyote
The stag is the high honor animal you see in those cutscenes
i had no idea they were different animals in those cut scenes until i seen this vid .. thanks gardiator for letting me know
Honor for all is the outro love ittttt ❤️
Yes indeed.
This was such an emotional mission--it's weird to hurt for a character (even though it happens in movies and books), but man, did I feel for Sadie. (For best results, try not to think about how with Dutch and Micah along, had the first mission with her started slightly earlier, the results would probably have been about the same.)
The wolf loading screen is lowkey intimidating
She went to South America unfortunately:(
Arthur Morgan No Booty for you Mr. Killgore.
So maybe a Mexico with Sadie DLC?
@@adrianzempter8026 Mexico is not from South America lmao
@@Valen-de8dcShe might get stuck on the way.
@@adrianzempter8026 a amazonas
I always got the sense through the game that Sadie and Abigail were friends. I always caught them hanging around together in camp and Sadie especially didnt seem to interact much (and positively) with the other gang members except for Arthur and Abigail
I wish and hope RDR3 will be about Sadie Adler
make about dutch first, how he hate o'driscoll, how he know hosea and arthur and stuff that lead to the black water heist
Doubts. RDR3 will be about Dutch and how he starts the gang with Arthur and Hosea. Sadie doesn't really become an interesting character until much later in the game. And she's just as wild about seeking revenge as Arthur and John....and we know how that turns out!
If they do make RDR3 it will allow us to play as a young Dutch around 20’s full of hope optimism idealism etc. He was more of a Robin Hood character when younger but throughout the game maybe we get glimpses of the man he will eventually become foreshadowing his descent into madness.
I think if it comes out, RDR3 will either be following a young Jack Marston assuming he became an outlaw or someone new that we haven't heard from. Safe to say it'll probably be a manly man as usual, and not a woman otherwise the fans would bug out.
It might be neat if they made the protagonist like ,a freed black slave like Django that could really be awesome.
@@jellybutterpeanut1 People would freak out over playing as a black guy too. But yeah that would be cool to get it from the perspective of a minority who has an entire additional set of struggles to deal with than a normal outlaw.
RD3 should be a prequel and you play as Dutch Van Der Linde, forming the gang the beef with Colm and all of that. Or make it a DLC for RD2
"I ain't even got that" hits hard
For all those that didn’t help Sadie I will find you
Sadie was great, a real favourite!
Hey man, thanks for making all these video compilations. As someone who doesn't have the courage to be mean in video games, I really appreciate it
Glad that you are enjoying these videos. They'll be more coming soon with the final showdown against Micah.
Sadie fine af
Sadie Is My Favorite Character
It’s so cool to see all the “hidden”dialogues for when you chose an option I wouldn’t choose
I like how in the cut scene when Sadie is killing the O’Driscoll we are no part of it. It makes it seem like she has her own story. She has her own revenge plot and we were no part of it
Damn bro. Half of a sentence hangs in the balance of good and evil!
When Arthur said "I ain't even got that"" He was referencing to his Wife and Son. Arthur was never deserved this life.
“We’re more ghosts than people”
Sadies one of my favorite characters.
The subtle changes are everything like Arthur smiling when saying the competition isn’t too fierce with high honour and If he has bad honour he doesn’t say we need to do it for John and his family he only thinks about the money
Hahaha johns story is like playing rdr1 all over again love it miss arthur though
I was on this mission but I left to use the bathroom and my little brother presses “don’t help” said he was trying to help me
that teaches you to go to the bathroom. XD j/k.
Cheng Teoh big oofs have been giving
Cheng Teoh big oofs have been giving
Najeeb-da-gamer - How does one help by not helping lol
6:23 arthur should let her know about the whole "stranger's blood on your face" situation
Does it effects on the Arthur's revenge with John ?
I haven't gotten to that part yet, but I'm sure there will be some differences since Arthur and John are a big thing. :D Please be patient with me, I'll definitely look into it for sure.
@@ChengTeoh can't wait ;)
pepsi Arthur's revenge on John? Whut
böne 99 lmao I get it,I thought he made a grammatical mistake lol sorry
Arthur and John go up against the gang and Pinkertons in the end,that's what you mean?
Teedious? maybe......but a HUGE difference
oh my god! I just realized that the uh "dream sequences" is a reflection of your honor, Deer for good honor, Wolf for bad, dope.
I love the game, but, I thought Sadie would love Arthur
It was something that going to be planned by Rockstar as a romance option but they cut it out unfortunately.
I like it better this way. Sadie is done being a wife to anybody and becomes a complete alpha female. She gets full revenge on the O'Driscoll gang with the hanging of Colm and the annihilation of all the gang members. Then she moves on to become a ruthless bounty hunter.
I like to see it as a reflection of her love to her late husband. The level of love she had for him channeled into an extreme rage against others.
@@johnleonard9102 this is why sadie should have a sequel about her time as a bounty hunter
@@johnleonard9102 ''alpha female'' ?? what???