I am a therapist as wel and this channel contains such valuable information! Thank you very much for your work. My first goal with each of my patients after the first time we talk is that they realize that they are not alone..
"Haftung bei Suizid? (=Liability for suicide)" - we´re having such a case in my area which is actually discussed on our therapy platform. Who knows what the therapist has gone through, even before that incident; maybe she would have needed supervision for this client or the one before. Many will experience such a case, sooner or later. It would be good to be prepared.
Man… was the not expecting it that he would end it all … man… literally shook and felt like I got hit like a truck when he said that man… goodness, that is rough… Much agree, that connection is important. Oddly enough hardly talked about…. It’s not enough to vent… then sometimes the clients feel they have said too much and feel embarrassed to come back or to see the therapist in the eyes…. All very well said…
Therapy starts the moment you talk with them on the phone, or latest open the door to shake hands. The moment they come in they have to be and feel safe with you.
I wonder if that therapist was investigated for assessing suicidality and dealing with it in a responsible way? Sounds like a potential lawsuit to me. Very sad.
One session and the therapist should have prevented a suicide? No sense. Also the paper work is not the therapist’s idea. Unfortunately it’s the employers that create all that excessive stress.
No, the therapist could have noticed it. I am completely on Mark's side here. The paperwork has all time of the universe when you feel there's something wrong. Always, always check if this happens to you! Its also a matter of trust, I mean can they trust me that I listen to my intuition, can I trust myself that I do (=if I was the patient, would I go to see me?) What counts more, paper or patient? Do I take my job seriously enough to take over responsibility for whoever comes to me? Who needs help, the patient or bureaucracy?
Mm..no, therapy most definitely damages people. And it is criminal. Of course there is a link between that therapy session and this poor man's suicide. I have attempted suicide twice, I have seen 15+ therapists in 10 years. Why? Because *that's what's recommended by everyone when you are mentally struggling*. You are suicidal? You can't do life? You struggle with finding purpose? Go to therapy. Advice was never more criminal than this. We are all brainwashed into thinking traditional therapeutic "methods" are a resource or a treatment. I have had, among those 15+, 2 therapists who helped me. And to those I am very greatful. But who has the guts to go through 15 to find 2 human beings that take interest into helping you get better, get somewhere else, develop skills? The person speaking in the video is absolutely the kind of therapist who would have helped me. A very rare kind. In fact, he himself goes against almost everything of the baseless and dangerous method taught to this day in so many universities for "psychologists". I mean not to say, that those 13-ish who didn't help were indifferent. I am saying that they absolutely actively harmed me. And got paid for it too! Simply amazing. Traditional therapy is a criminal act for people who have nothing left to them, not even hope most of the times. They are traumatized, lost, at the weakest point of their life, and these vultures that should represent the way out, dare keeping them where they are, for money. Taking their last hopes, cluelessly, irresponsibly. Therapy has to be taken down as a realistically dangerous practice whose results are never measured, similarly to homeopathy for cancer, but maybe worst. If you are presenting yourself as a professional who is supposed to help people find a way out of mental torture or emptyness, and you dont, and even harm them, you are not "just not the right fit". You would have to be considered a criminal, just like a plumber who was to take payment and let the sink as it is, after giving it a mindless kick to see if it shakes. Therapy is a complete harmful scam, and I say it in all fairness, speaking from experience, and having gotten unbelievable better by myself mainly. Painful, but therapy really only made me worst and stole even more precious time from my life. For the exeptions, like this man, I recommend rebranding yourselves in a different way, fund your own univeristy, and reject all traditional "therapeutic" method. If you are a person struggling: try to find good people, and ask the little but truly necessary to them. Try to learn as much as you can from people that are ok. If you were so so lucky, find a friend. Read many books about getting better. I really recommend Martin Seligman's books. I really hope thousands of therapists will be held responsible for the sufferings they inflict to people at their lowest (because...."they were already bad"! Doesn't matter that I presented myself as "help"). I hope they will go to court. And stop thinking of themselves as doctors, as no trace of scientific method was ever applied to frankly assess therapeutic outcomes and success rates. Traditional therapy is the evil of the modern world.
So true, the healing process starts for my clients as soon as they book their first session and I have an initial chat with them on the phone.
I am a therapist as wel and this channel contains such valuable information! Thank you very much for your work.
My first goal with each of my patients after the first time we talk is that they realize that they are not alone..
Excellent reminder Mark of why we as therapists do this work and to keep our priorities in balance
"Haftung bei Suizid? (=Liability for suicide)" - we´re having such a case in my area which is actually discussed on our therapy platform. Who knows what the therapist has gone through, even before that incident; maybe she would have needed supervision for this client or the one before. Many will experience such a case, sooner or later. It would be good to be prepared.
Man… was the not expecting it that he would end it all … man… literally shook and felt like I got hit like a truck when he said that man… goodness, that is rough…
Much agree, that connection is important. Oddly enough hardly talked about…. It’s not enough to vent… then sometimes the clients feel they have said too much and feel embarrassed to come back or to see the therapist in the eyes….
All very well said…
Love the Placebo effect. So under utilized in all health care. Great video.
Brilliant content, thank you so much for sharing.
Very insightful. Thank you. I agree that repetition can become mundane and decrease impact.
Please continue making more videos they have helped Soo muchh
Therapy starts the moment you talk with them on the phone, or latest open the door to shake hands. The moment they come in they have to be and feel safe with you.
Thank you sooo much, your advices improved my consulting practice by multiple levels. Ill surely enroll your online classes soon :)
Very insightful. This helps me to understand, forgive... and move on more consciously and assertive. Thank you
To balance the argument, we really don't know what happened in that therapy session.
Thank you! 🙏
Thanks Mark for your wonderful posts.
thank you very much for dr.tyallar huge impact on my life
Thankyouuu
Where are you located. I love your post, and feel like I need you.
I wonder if that therapist was investigated for assessing suicidality and dealing with it in a responsible way? Sounds like a potential lawsuit to me. Very sad.
One session and the therapist should have prevented a suicide? No sense. Also the paper work is not the therapist’s idea. Unfortunately it’s the employers that create all that excessive stress.
No, the therapist could have noticed it. I am completely on Mark's side here. The paperwork has all time of the universe when you feel there's something wrong. Always, always check if this happens to you! Its also a matter of trust, I mean can they trust me that I listen to my intuition, can I trust myself that I do (=if I was the patient, would I go to see me?) What counts more, paper or patient? Do I take my job seriously enough to take over responsibility for whoever comes to me? Who needs help, the patient or bureaucracy?
27:57 “...because they’re not meeting those needs in their wifer life...”
#Dr Freud, call your office.#
Mm..no, therapy most definitely damages people. And it is criminal. Of course there is a link between that therapy session and this poor man's suicide.
I have attempted suicide twice, I have seen 15+ therapists in 10 years.
Why? Because *that's what's recommended by everyone when you are mentally struggling*.
You are suicidal? You can't do life? You struggle with finding purpose? Go to therapy.
Advice was never more criminal than this. We are all brainwashed into thinking traditional therapeutic "methods" are a resource or a treatment.
I have had, among those 15+, 2 therapists who helped me. And to those I am very greatful.
But who has the guts to go through 15 to find 2 human beings that take interest into helping you get better, get somewhere else, develop skills?
The person speaking in the video is absolutely the kind of therapist who would have helped me. A very rare kind. In fact, he himself goes against almost everything of the baseless and dangerous method taught to this day in so many universities for "psychologists".
I mean not to say, that those 13-ish who didn't help were indifferent. I am saying that they absolutely actively harmed me. And got paid for it too!
Simply amazing.
Traditional therapy is a criminal act for people who have nothing left to them, not even hope most of the times. They are traumatized, lost, at the weakest point of their life, and these vultures that should represent the way out, dare keeping them where they are, for money. Taking their last hopes, cluelessly, irresponsibly. Therapy has to be taken down as a realistically dangerous practice whose results are never measured, similarly to homeopathy for cancer, but maybe worst.
If you are presenting yourself as a professional who is supposed to help people find a way out of mental torture or emptyness, and you dont, and even harm them, you are not "just not the right fit". You would have to be considered a criminal, just like a plumber who was to take payment and let the sink as it is, after giving it a mindless kick to see if it shakes.
Therapy is a complete harmful scam, and I say it in all fairness, speaking from experience, and having gotten unbelievable better by myself mainly. Painful, but therapy really only made me worst and stole even more precious time from my life.
For the exeptions, like this man, I recommend rebranding yourselves in a different way, fund your own univeristy, and reject all traditional "therapeutic" method.
If you are a person struggling: try to find good people, and ask the little but truly necessary to them. Try to learn as much as you can from people that are ok. If you were so so lucky, find a friend. Read many books about getting better. I really recommend Martin Seligman's books.
I really hope thousands of therapists will be held responsible for the sufferings they inflict to people at their lowest (because...."they were already bad"! Doesn't matter that I presented myself as "help"). I hope they will go to court. And stop thinking of themselves as doctors, as no trace of scientific method was ever applied to frankly assess therapeutic outcomes and success rates. Traditional therapy is the evil of the modern world.