Spot on with a Narrower Stance (moving front foot back). I tried this recently and instantly could Pump further, higher, with less fatigue. I switch back to a wider stance when riding waves.
Very well explained. Now I know I've been muscling through instead of letting the foil work for me. Can't wait to get out on the water and apply your pointers.
That Tips did it! Thank you very much! Now is totaly clear how you synchronize your wing and your pumping with your board. Tested it yesterday on the western baltic in germany and with your tips everything was much easier! Thank you! Tips on how to handle seaweed would be interesting…
Salut Gwenn. Tout d’abord je tiens à te dire que tes vidéos sont super. Ton niveau n’a d’égal que ta modestie. J’ai commencé le dockstart début février et c’était aujourd’hui ma 21eme session. Je dois dire qu’après avoir connu l’euphorie de la progression, je connais aujourd’hui les déboires et la frustration de la stagnation, voire quasiment de la régression. Après avoir fait un run de 15 secondes, il y a 15 jours. Je n’arrive plus à faire que quelques mètres. Je suis découragé. J’ai l’impression que je n’arriverai jamais à comprendre comment pomper. Merci en tout cas pour tous tes conseils
Salut. J’ai un profoil 1900 mini pocket 33. Le départ, je maîtrise mais c’est vraiment le pomping qui fait défaut. Je comprends ce que je suis censé faire mais je n’arrive pas à l’appliquer.
On a un nouveau podcast qui arrive où on prendra des clips pour aider les gens en donnant des explications technique. Donc si tu as un clip pour nous montrer on pourra peut être t’aider 😁 suis nous sur Instagram pour savoir quand le nouveau podcast sort
Great video - helped me get going. Now I am into stopping. I had a close incident the other day while pumping. So maybe you could share how you would stop save and quickly while on foil.
Damien, I have lift 220HAX, 200HA, 170HA, 250 surf, 200 surf. wanting to learn pumping. I weigh 145 and have been wake foiling behind boat with a 220HAX. which set up would work for me learning to pump?
That's the foil we use in this video, also a great one to start pumping on the lake: wingfoilprocenter.com/products/sabfoil-1350-leviathan-kit-for-pumping-and-light-wind-winging?_pos=1&_psq=1350&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Great video! Can the next one be on tips to take off with a DW board and paddle on flat water , like you showed it at the end of the light wind video ? Lots of weed here in Montreal where I have Access to docks, I need another option to practice foil pumping!
Thanks for another great video. Been working on the glide phase of my pump a lot lately. Any good tips on pumping up wind, in chop/swell? I find all my form goes to crap and I just pump like crazy.
Pumping up wind and in chop is significantly harder for sure! The more you can refined your technique on flat water with no wind, the better you will be able to perform in wind and chop, but it will never be easy haha! :)
@@danielhammack6511 I recently went from the axis 1150 to sab leviathon 1350. Amazed at how much better I am able to pump up wind, in currents, and swell. Lots of condtions where I wouldn't even try before. now with the 1350 I can get get out. Has opened up so many more opportunites.
A little more on the back leg most of the time, but you can move your feet around to be more on both or centered. It would be incredible to go switch but it is a lot harder, its like walking backwards, just is not that easy to pick up. Would for sure take some training.
Hey guys, is it easier to pump a longer DW board or a shorter/wider board of the same volume? I’m not particularly concerned about getting onto foil b/c I use a wing, just curious about how swing weight modulates pumping effort once on foil. Thx!
More volume and more weight makes pumping more challenging for sure. But the downwind boards are interesting because the foil position is so far forward that the volume behind the foil acts as counter weight, it somehow feels pretty balanced and makes the swing weight in the front kind of disappear when pumping and turning. So a 120L downwind board feels easier to pump than a 120L short and wide wing board, also because the shorter wing boards often have a foil position much more back. Hope this helps!
Thank you for sharing your hard learned tips, you're spreading the joy. Do you shim the 1350 at the base plate to flatten the board out? My nose is always pointing down on my 1350
Helps to have a larger size so you can pump at a slower speed! A good few wings and sizes wingfoilprocenter.com/collections/foil/products/sabfoil-front-wing-leviathan?variant=45086703911216 or wingfoilprocenter.com/collections/foil/products/cabrinha-x-series-mkii-front-wing?variant=45086620123440
Salut Gwen, je me suis au dockstart il y a deux mois. Je commence à arriver à monter assez haut sur le mat et laisser glisser. Cependant, j’ai pour le moment du mal à générer de la vitesse afin de pouvoir laisser glisser derrière. J’arrive à maintenir une vitesse initiale mais difficilement à vraiment accélérer. Du coup, je fatigue au bout d’une petite minute. Auriez vous avec Damien un conseil pour arriver à générer plus de vitesse. Pour info, j’ai une FW gong curve h 4XL de 2150cm2/145cm/ratio9.8 pour 73kg. Merci pour ton retour, Adrien
Salut Adrien, je pense que principalement ta FW a trop de drag donc elle ne glisse pas assez et ne te permet pas de prendre de la vitesse. Je connais pas trop les FW Gong mais je dirai essaye une tailler plus petite ou un profile plus fin. - Gwen
Merci Gwen, en effet, c'est une des pistes que j'envisageais d'explorer. Ma technique également est loin d'être parfaite. Est ce que sur la descente, tu pousses essentiellement sur le pied arrière ou plutôt sur les deux avec la planche légèrement nose down ( un peu comme un squat). En tout cas, merci pour ton retour.
Great tips! Are you guys going to be selling that Lift hat Damien is wearing on your website? I know it's a Lift hat but it's not on their website either. Thanks!
You can get this awesome towel, will work on the hats for you! wingfoilprocenter.com/products/wing-foil-pro-center-beach-towel?_pos=2&_psq=product_type%3AACCESSORIES+AND+to&_ss=e&_v=1.0
This is our favorite foil for pumping: wingfoilprocenter.com/collections/light-wing-wing-foiling/products/sabfoil-1350-leviathan-kit-for-pumping-and-light-wind-winging This is our favorite foil when we teach pumping: wingfoilprocenter.com/products/cabrinha-2100-x-series-kit?_pos=1&_psq=2100&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Thanks Guys. A few friends and I are trying to learn dockstarting. After watching this video, I see that our pumping technique is the main skill that is holding us back. Thanks again for pointing out what we need focus on now.
Can I use aluminum foil (not just mast, but wings as well) to pump-foil and learn it, or do I need/have to use carbon foil? Also, thank you for all the videos, I learnt a lot about wing-foiling from your videos, and yours + Kitesurf College are the two sources of wing-foil technique & learning videos I believe to be best and I share whenever I can!
Where do you find full aluminum foils, I never saw that. Normally aluminium foil means mast and fuselage, and the foils are always carbon or fiberglass. Do you have a link to that? Or you plan to build it yourself?
@@Rocco_Kurokawa Hmmmm; I have "Allvator XXL" 2500 from Gong that I bought some 3 years ago (Oct 2019 - nearly 4 apparently!); I was always assuming and believing it is aluminium, but now that you say so, I took a look at it, and with the front already being quite worn out, what starts to show through does actually indeed look like fiberglass, not aluminium....! hmmm, now I am surprised! It looks like I don't even really know what I'm actually using throughout that time 🤔 Thank you for your answer and for making me check it! not sure if there's a way for me to further verify this, the equipment is quite old and I don't think it'll be still available with a good description on their website.
Cheers Guys. Nice vid as always. For us game changer was narrow stance, almost like squating (burning legs 40/60). Play a lot around pumping frequency and power of pumping (like you said to FEEL IT) and efficient glide. But we are little more into build a speed (3-4pumps) and glide , then like you said pump-glide.
Spot on with a Narrower Stance (moving front foot back). I tried this recently and instantly could Pump further, higher, with less fatigue. I switch back to a wider stance when riding waves.
Great advice thank you for sharing....
holy crap this is one of the coolest devices i've ever seen...
This is actually helpful unlike many of the other videos on the topic
Glad we can help! We appreciate you.
Front foot a bit back has changed the game for me. Good tips guys. Thanks. ❤
Very well explained. Now I know I've been muscling through instead of letting the foil work for me. Can't wait to get out on the water and apply your pointers.
Thank you we appreciate you!
Thanks
That Tips did it! Thank you very much! Now is totaly clear how you synchronize your wing and your pumping with your board. Tested it yesterday on the western baltic in germany and with your tips everything was much easier! Thank you!
Tips on how to handle seaweed would be interesting…
Pumped thank you for sharing and so happy we were able to help!
Thx a lot, good tipps, will try next from Minute 9:00 to start glide "lying on the foil". Looks pretty safe to me.
Great work fellas! Such a hard concept to explain and this is excellent.
Thank you Dave!
Salut Gwenn. Tout d’abord je tiens à te dire que tes vidéos sont super. Ton niveau n’a d’égal que ta modestie. J’ai commencé le dockstart début février et c’était aujourd’hui ma 21eme session. Je dois dire qu’après avoir connu l’euphorie de la progression, je connais aujourd’hui les déboires et la frustration de la stagnation, voire quasiment de la régression. Après avoir fait un run de 15 secondes, il y a 15 jours. Je n’arrive plus à faire que quelques mètres. Je suis découragé. J’ai l’impression que je n’arriverai jamais à comprendre comment pomper. Merci en tout cas pour tous tes conseils
Merci Matthieu! Quel foil utilises tu?
Salut. J’ai un profoil 1900 mini pocket 33. Le départ, je maîtrise mais c’est vraiment le pomping qui fait défaut. Je comprends ce que je suis censé faire mais je n’arrive pas à l’appliquer.
On a un nouveau podcast qui arrive où on prendra des clips pour aider les gens en donnant des explications technique. Donc si tu as un clip pour nous montrer on pourra peut être t’aider 😁 suis nous sur Instagram pour savoir quand le nouveau podcast sort
Great video production quality and explanations. Awsome for learning
Thank you, we appreciate you!
Great video - helped me get going. Now I am into stopping. I had a close incident the other day while pumping. So maybe you could share how you would stop save and quickly while on foil.
Thank you so much for your precious advices
Can't find Gwen's latest dock start video...saw it once and it was great, but still need it! Thanks guys!
th-cam.com/video/jPy59hSjtvs/w-d-xo.html
Hello, tu utilises quel matos pour la dernière séquence beach start et tu peux surfer en revenant...c top !! 🙂
Top, very good advices, merci beaucoup! 😊👍🏻👍🏻😊
Nice video. It's possible to startup in flat water with a Cabrinha macro 5'4" and axis 940? Start with a paddle?
Cool!
Where is this location?
France?
Thanks
Damien, I have lift 220HAX, 200HA, 170HA, 250 surf, 200 surf. wanting to learn pumping. I weigh 145 and have been wake foiling behind boat with a 220HAX. which set up would work for me learning to pump?
Hi! Can you make a video on kids setups for stuff like jumping? Thanks!
Very interesting!
thanks for all your awesome tips fellas! They have been a staple in my learning curve. Sandpoint, Idaho? !! I love it!!
Great to hear so thankful we can help!
Great clip and thank you for this amazing explanation! I was doing it wrong, thank you so much!
Wich size is the frontwing of the small board on the lake? What is minimum size to start pump foil on a lake? 2000m2?
That's the foil we use in this video, also a great one to start pumping on the lake: wingfoilprocenter.com/products/sabfoil-1350-leviathan-kit-for-pumping-and-light-wind-winging?_pos=1&_psq=1350&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Do longer limbs/legs helps in generating more speed?
I don’t think it makes a significant difference, just like surfing, or windsurfing
@@DamienLeroyTH-cam big powerful pumps generate speed right?
@@DamienLeroyTH-cam Actually, taller people is an advantage on windsurfing
Thanks guys ,you safe me year of trying 😍
Great video! Can the next one be on tips to take off with a DW board and paddle on flat water , like you showed it at the end of the light wind video ? Lots of weed here in Montreal where I have Access to docks, I need another option to practice foil pumping!
Yes for sure! It's coming soon!
Fantastic talk.
Thanks for another great video. Been working on the glide phase of my pump a lot lately. Any good tips on pumping up wind, in chop/swell? I find all my form goes to crap and I just pump like crazy.
Pumping up wind and in chop is significantly harder for sure! The more you can refined your technique on flat water with no wind, the better you will be able to perform in wind and chop, but it will never be easy haha! :)
Higher on the mast and a foil which stalls at a slower speed will help for upwind!
@@danielhammack6511 I recently went from the axis 1150 to sab leviathon 1350. Amazed at how much better I am able to pump up wind, in currents, and swell. Lots of condtions where I wouldn't even try before. now with the 1350 I can get get out. Has opened up so many more opportunites.
Is pumping a symmetric workout for both legs? Do you feel you need to train switch as well?
A little more on the back leg most of the time, but you can move your feet around to be more on both or centered. It would be incredible to go switch but it is a lot harder, its like walking backwards, just is not that easy to pick up. Would for sure take some training.
Hey guys, is it easier to pump a longer DW board or a shorter/wider board of the same volume? I’m not particularly concerned about getting onto foil b/c I use a wing, just curious about how swing weight modulates pumping effort once on foil. Thx!
More volume and more weight makes pumping more challenging for sure. But the downwind boards are interesting because the foil position is so far forward that the volume behind the foil acts as counter weight, it somehow feels pretty balanced and makes the swing weight in the front kind of disappear when pumping and turning. So a 120L downwind board feels easier to pump than a 120L short and wide wing board, also because the shorter wing boards often have a foil position much more back. Hope this helps!
Thank you for sharing your hard learned tips, you're spreading the joy. Do you shim the 1350 at the base plate to flatten the board out? My nose is always pointing down on my 1350
Thank you! We don't shim the 1350. We use it with the SabFoil B08 board, so maybe it's because of the way your board is design?
Thanks for the tip, much appreciated @@DamienLeroyTH-cam
Thanks for the points
Is there a certain size front and rear? When do you need to be able to pump?
Helps to have a larger size so you can pump at a slower speed! A good few wings and sizes wingfoilprocenter.com/collections/foil/products/sabfoil-front-wing-leviathan?variant=45086703911216 or wingfoilprocenter.com/collections/foil/products/cabrinha-x-series-mkii-front-wing?variant=45086620123440
Salut Gwen, je me suis au dockstart il y a deux mois. Je commence à arriver à monter assez haut sur le mat et laisser glisser. Cependant, j’ai pour le moment du mal à générer de la vitesse afin de pouvoir laisser glisser derrière. J’arrive à maintenir une vitesse initiale mais difficilement à vraiment accélérer. Du coup, je fatigue au bout d’une petite minute. Auriez vous avec Damien un conseil pour arriver à générer plus de vitesse. Pour info, j’ai une FW gong curve h 4XL de 2150cm2/145cm/ratio9.8 pour 73kg. Merci pour ton retour, Adrien
Salut Adrien, je pense que principalement ta FW a trop de drag donc elle ne glisse pas assez et ne te permet pas de prendre de la vitesse. Je connais pas trop les FW Gong mais je dirai essaye une tailler plus petite ou un profile plus fin.
- Gwen
Merci Gwen, en effet, c'est une des pistes que j'envisageais d'explorer. Ma technique également est loin d'être parfaite. Est ce que sur la descente, tu pousses essentiellement sur le pied arrière ou plutôt sur les deux avec la planche légèrement nose down ( un peu comme un squat). En tout cas, merci pour ton retour.
Appui sur les deux jambes, donc pied avant doit être pas mal a l’arrière sinon ça sera trop appuis jambe arrière
Great video!
Great tips! Are you guys going to be selling that Lift hat Damien is wearing on your website? I know it's a Lift hat but it's not on their website either. Thanks!
You can get this awesome towel, will work on the hats for you! wingfoilprocenter.com/products/wing-foil-pro-center-beach-towel?_pos=2&_psq=product_type%3AACCESSORIES+AND+to&_ss=e&_v=1.0
What do you think is an ideal set for pump
? Size?
This is our favorite foil for pumping:
wingfoilprocenter.com/collections/light-wing-wing-foiling/products/sabfoil-1350-leviathan-kit-for-pumping-and-light-wind-winging
This is our favorite foil when we teach pumping:
wingfoilprocenter.com/products/cabrinha-2100-x-series-kit?_pos=1&_psq=2100&_ss=e&_v=1.0
Thank you
Can i pump in a 85l board?
Yes for sure
Thanks Guys. A few friends and I are trying to learn dockstarting. After watching this video, I see that our pumping technique is the main skill that is holding us back. Thanks again for pointing out what we need focus on now.
Thank you brother we appreciate you!
Can we learn how to pump foil without any prior experience in foiling?
Yes 100%! It will just take repetition but yep no problem.
Merci !! Best help !
Content de pouvoir aider! 👊😁
Didn't know this was a thing until a few seconds ago
5:22 glide lift glide ❤
Can I use aluminum foil (not just mast, but wings as well) to pump-foil and learn it, or do I need/have to use carbon foil? Also, thank you for all the videos, I learnt a lot about wing-foiling from your videos, and yours + Kitesurf College are the two sources of wing-foil technique & learning videos I believe to be best and I share whenever I can!
Where do you find full aluminum foils, I never saw that. Normally aluminium foil means mast and fuselage, and the foils are always carbon or fiberglass.
Do you have a link to that?
Or you plan to build it yourself?
@@Rocco_Kurokawa Hmmmm; I have "Allvator XXL" 2500 from Gong that I bought some 3 years ago (Oct 2019 - nearly 4 apparently!); I was always assuming and believing it is aluminium, but now that you say so, I took a look at it, and with the front already being quite worn out, what starts to show through does actually indeed look like fiberglass, not aluminium....! hmmm, now I am surprised! It looks like I don't even really know what I'm actually using throughout that time 🤔 Thank you for your answer and for making me check it! not sure if there's a way for me to further verify this, the equipment is quite old and I don't think it'll be still available with a good description on their website.
Cheers Guys.
Nice vid as always.
For us game changer was narrow stance, almost like squating (burning legs 40/60).
Play a lot around pumping frequency and power of pumping (like you said to FEEL IT) and efficient glide.
But we are little more into build a speed (3-4pumps) and glide , then like you said pump-glide.
Happy we could assist! Enjoy.....
I wanna buy it :D
Excelent
Look at you guys with a DW Ginzu
nice, mahalo ! :)
My girl likes a good pump