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So you think you're a pipeline welder?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2016
- Pipeliners Local 798 working in Gillette Wyoming. Still missing is Shaun Thornhill, the journeyman spacer hand on this project. Go to the Charley Project: Shaun Thornhill.
my dad was rig welder 40yrs!! i am oldest of 3 sons been one now for 28yrs an youngest son been welding for 23yrs!! my dad actually passed away on a job at age 62 still burning them rods fast as we were at that age!! all i can say is im 50 now an i hope i can hold out till 60!! pipelining hard on a body an soul!!
May I ask how did your dad passed away?
@@abelguerrero144 don't be rude now the man said in the job and that's all u need to know
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@@arozverde3994 I was wondering if he passed away due welding fumes which really concerns me
@@abelguerrero144 very good question bro. Toxic fumes can really be bad for you if you’re not covering your face all the time. Shortens your life span by 10-15 years when you get older if you’re constantly welding for years and years
@@MRJ37welp it’s not like I wan get that old 😅
What a cool video! Just started welding classes at my community college. It is definitely an art but it looks like it’ll be well worth the time and effort put in to be good at it.
My husband has had an exceptionally long career as a welder..now retired, still pumping out amazing creations! Good luck young man...
Looks like a crew that gets a lot done and works well together
You could say they... Work weld together....
taylor bryan booooo
Its not the athlete or the movie star that are the heroes, its folks like this. Its the people that work hard to keep America moving in one direction. I love videos like this. Great job!
I think the word "Hero" is thrown around a little to often. Your not a hero for doing your job. A lot of us bust our asses, doesn't make us a hero.
I agree, Athletes and Movie stars are overpaid crybabies, but thats our fault for going to the games or paying for their movies. They do NOTHING to keep the world going round.
Heros don't do it for money. Js
well I am a pipeline welder east side of the states with 6 years of experience as a welder good job on the video
I'm completely new to welding. I've only had my everlast welder for a while but completely love it. How do I get started getting a welding job?
I bought an everlast welder last summer and am practicing as much as I can. How's the best way to get a welding job?
Carlos Extromolo
make an application to the Pipeliners Local 798 union..they will be selling books as there is a lot of work starting up!
Carlos Extromolo
if you feel confident and can actually weld on the pipe you first must pass a test at the union hall...but an application must be made first...
Hey man I'm on The east side of the states also got all my certifications. What do I have to do in order to become a pipeliner ? Also if you ever need a helper I'm tryna get on. Thanks
-Tyler
Real men real women real work and for real team work love to see it that's how America was built wish I could be part of this operation kudos to all you guys and gals
Been steadily improving my welds on stick and mig through my shop class, one day I hope to work on the pipes
Never give up homie you can only keep improving! Welding is a great trade to get into
Me too. It’s amazing how much I have improved in literally 4 days.
FJB
That's my 798 brothers. Best of the best....the UA Pipeliners. Be safe brothers!!!....Arkansas' UA 155 Plumbers/Pipefitters, disabled retired. United Association.....we do it right the FIRST time. A Cherokee & Choctaw Indian. Look for the UNION LABEL...IT MEANS IT IS MADE BY AMERICANS, IN THE U.S.A.!!!
R.O.B./
that's my dream job. I hope some day I'll be giving the opportunity to actualize this dream of becoming a pipeline professional welder
Never seen a 798er UP HERE IN WASHINGTON. There,s a reason why. You guys keep makeing the rules and big bucks. Lay that pipe. Have a good day.
You're wrong there Steve....I met my husband on a 36" Pipeline that run from Canada through Washington state....2006...I was a laborer at the time out of Local 32!
I am a pipeline welder ! 30 years and still burning rod !
I'm a welding inspector and the welders at my job tell me they're going to leave and go weld on the pipeline. I shake my head and tell them "Not with the welds your making now."
No wonder they hate inspectors
@@m6ndohernandez339 inspectors have a ton of weight and responsibilities on their shoulders man I have respect for them. He said not with the welds the have "now" meaning you need to work on your welds. He was being honest. I was told I have great welding skills when indeed I do not. Any welding job for critical work needs the best of the best.
I gave up welding for a living to manage others in the industry. Can't beat a good crew of stick welders! All weather, any position and anywhere!
Amen brother! 🙏 we had a foreman that referred his pipeline to a rolling wheel and every spoke had their job to do...it works! Especially Union members busting butt out there!
My grandpa spent much of his life welding for Phillips 66 pipeline. He and my grandma moved around a lot following the pipeline. Mostly through Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas. That was back in the 50's and 60's. I remember his name embroidered above the pocket of his shirts and the creases in the slacks of his gray uniforms. And his Phillips 66 flatbed truck he drove with the big welder on back. He always had a shop where they lived, with a little fridge full of beer and cans of Prince Albert laying around. Wish I could go back there.
John Smith
I know it’s been a while since this comment but it brought back memories of me visiting my great uncles shop back in the 70’s. I bet you can remember how it smelled. My uncles shop had wood floors and smelled like mildew on cutting oil. It was dark, damp and awesome.
That's badass!!! Thank God for grandparents willing to roll there sleeves up and do it!!!!✌👊😎❤🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💰💰💰
My favorite profession in the entire world. Rig Welder. Trying to get it all back again. Slowly but Shirley. But don't call me Shirley.
It would be nice to actually see the weld beads they are doing
strafe777 they won't pass no kind of xray I can promise you that
Steven Bernsen you know not what you're talking about. Those welders have to test at every job they go to even if they have traveled 1500 miles the day before,and if they bust out they go home. Then when the job starts, most gas companies require 100 percent xray or sometimes ultrasonic technology.
I actually recognize a few of those guys because I've worked with them from time to time and I can say that 798 welders are the best. Not saying that they're the only good welders, but not many have to perform in the same rough conditions. I know because I've been working alongside them for 43 years. Knee deep in mud and dust in our eyes. We do what we do in an effort to get energy to the people of this great country safely and maybe more affordably. We do what we do with a certain amount of sacrifice. We spend many nights in strange beds in strange places while our wives, children, and other loved ones had to stay behind. Then you have to trust the Lord to watch over them and us.
Yeah as you can probably tell, I love what I do. After 43 years, I'm fast approaching retirement and that is the goal I've been working for. There's a lot I won't miss but my pipeline family, strong, honest, caring individuals, I will.
strafe777, you could go getchya a block brush 'n go scrub some.
@Stephen bernsen, plus ya might get one maybe two welds needing repair cause on the 3rd one yer down the road with a rancid baloney sammich on stale bread and a outa date roadmap.
Nothing special
footage was so clear!
Great quality video! I would have never guessed you shot this on a phone!
Anthony Mcintosh
I wish everyone could make up their mind....I thank you for the positive comment...however this is shot with a Flip video camera...they're old and outdated, easy to use on a very rough terrain (for me) probably why the film jerks at times ... not only do I have to watch my step, I have huge equipment that could run over me!
Cheryl I am as a pipe welder with 40 yrs of exp. So I know a little about welding . You did a nice job . The guy at the beginning of video could be my twin . Really
Dominick Gulizo
That's funny ... his name is Walter Ancell ... and he has a twin brother also!
That's crazy. All three should get together 😃
Good weld billy, do that 10,000 more times please
I miss runnin pipeline offshore..good video!
0:07 is that the welders version of sword fighting?
They have welding machines that do perfect welds every time for that exact pipeline project ! You still need the guys to set each weld up so skilled labor is still involved.
Shop welding and pipeline welding are two different jobs. I know a pipeline welder that couldn't shop weld if his life depended on it. Of course I doubt if I could weld on a pipeline and be productive enough at it to keep up. @ 67 I can hold my own on structural and shop welding against most anybody.
Amen...yes ... we are now retired and he is working from his shop...and most pipeline welders cannot even come close to being able to fabricate and build what he does now!...yes I turn 67 in August...
I didn't know Toby Keith was a welder.
Learning pipe welding in trade school right now, can't wait to be able to start my career
when i was at Boieng in Wichita , KS . i helped in the weld test shop. and knew some pipeline welders. two of which i had known many years before. i soon found out pipeline welding is a whole differant level of welding. so now i DONT call my self a welder.
You will,takes time.
the one welding gig I would've like to go on before my disability/ retirement. 537 Boston
I'm not sure I would be proud of any Boston union, esp after shit fell off a tunnel a ceiling killing a woman driving down the road, the big dig was a total rip off of tax payers money
3:46 We get it, pipe welders vape.
Great memories, thank you.
Cummins for a backbone too. Nice video and cool to see the real deal.
I knew a couple of guys out of the 798. One of them lived around Shreveport.
I did a year in Watford City, ND as project safety manager. Welders are probably the best shit talkers in the industry. They gave me hell just for being a safety guy but it was all in good fun and making the best out of -20 degree temps. From now on I'll keep my ass in south TX.
Sean Gibson
It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these welders, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS! We worked in Tioga so you should watch my video...
Don't Be H8ters, Because We're 798er's
We got to -45° ... it was freezing!
Sean Gibson
It doesn't matter the industry you're in....MEN TALK SHIT! I retired after doing this for 12 years...before that I was a deputy sheriff and worked with men just like these guys! So I love these guys, and respect their work as professionals in their field....they're my ROCKSTARS!
Making some good money here and they deserve it !
Amen...hard work for sure
I’m surprised no one is screaming about the apprentice passing him welding rods. Who knew that pipe could bend like that.
That's his helper....All Weldors have them...we are union...
@@CherylAnn798 yes I know this already.
It always cracks me up how people post these videos like it's hard to weld pipe or something. Give me a clue stick is so easy and most of all 6010 and 7018 down-hand.
Yes I was a welder for 24 years and now a CWI of over 15, yeah I know.
3G structural and pipe welding
man I'm 15 yrs in retired and miss it. El Nino is my welding name
michael El is that easy
I think the actual construction of the rds that were made for you to use, the construction of the pipeline itself is a lil more exciting.
You bet it is. That's a big part of what I've done all these years. I'm a blasting foreman for the ROW and the ditch
While you're busy welding somebody is stealing your truck
the hood's speak for them selves
what do they say?
Eddie Banda i have one of those and am not welder🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I wouldn't use it !!!!!!
The pancake is to keep the sun from shining and glaring threw from behind where a regular hood is open on the back. There more sealed of like goggles and not as heavy..
Remember boys before being a pipliner, its a bachaleors job.
Pip ... liner...haha...or maybe you meant pimpliner...hehe
Lol, that's my dad at the beginning of this video.
He's the best! That's why it has a million views! Hi Joe!
Thank you for making and sharing the video. Lol yes all those guys in that video are true professionals at what they do. You don't run across welders like them very often anymore.
I could have spent the entire day here asking hundreds of questions! Like do they bend the pipe on site or at the mill. Where do they do the epoxy coating. How do they weld the bottom of the pipe, how many passes, how many electrodes do they go through in a shift, do they cost the welded area before back filling?? This is so cool!
I am working on another video that shows how we bend the pipe...it's done right on the right of way...very cool indeed...The pipe comes coated already and then laborers coat the welds after they are xrayed...it depends on the size of the pipe on how many passes they will do....
I love it!! Its the little things that cause the largest problems
Ha I just took a job as a pipe fitter helper. If you're not familiar with the material it's so easy to just ask questions all day long. Hell it's going on my second month and all I've learned is that I know nothing haha
Jack Willis o 8th and 778 87u
Roger Klotz hellye
Never seen a welding hood like that before. Dope.
I bet even the laborers make good money.
I started as a laborer in 2006...made great money being in the Local Union
Great video! Lol at the grinder comments some people have no clue
Right? Clueless is a good word on this one
Cheryl Levi ,
Hi. What are the pay rates for helper and welder?? Great video.
They worked out a flat rate for the helpers on this job since we're bouncing back and forth from Ohio to West Virginia at $29.78...welders here are making $53.94 to $55.94...working for Welded construction on some 20 inch currently.
Are you guys running your own business / trucks sub contracting on? In Alberta I've known a few welders who sub contracted on EOS pipeline and facilities when I worked there, they would clear 1000$ a day @ 120$ an hour rate, Some were there for months on end without days off. B-Pressure Journeymen welders, Nice video.
Gosu Vu
No ... we are union ... so some of us are sent in from the union hall and some are contracted by the welder Foreman! thanks ...
Your camera takes great video. Looked like 60 fps, Very lifelike and bright. I bought some 5/32 7018 last month. That stuff really makes a big bead and lasts much longer than 1/8". Running 200 amps on the ol' ac/D.C. Buzz box.
As an old ASME certified pipe welder, I cannot believe these guys are stick welding downhill!
Larry Hottle they weld all the joints downhill. one starts the arc at the top ,the other picks it up and they race downhill where they meet and say all sorts of nasty mean things about construction welders.
for those that don't know these fellers are welding downhill progression. I have always worked construction where we only use uphill progression.the downhill creates a more pliable weld.this is needed in a pipeline for seismic conditions.someone out there correct me if I'm wrong or let me know better verbiage to explain why.been welding for thirty years and I never stop learning.its the toughest and best craft.put the wire in fire brother!
Couldn't have said it better...and I'm not a welder...my hubby is...so I ask him all these questions...all he said was PIPELINE WELDERS RUN DOWNHILL! Hey... Maybe the name of my next video...hehe
It depends on the application/process/filler. These guys are running an alkili electrode of the 10 series where the 1 stands for all position and the 10 series electrodes are all quite well suited to downhill (ie: 6010 (5P), 7010 (hyp), 80 or 9010 etc) progression due to the limited flux and slag produced, the extremely forceful arc burn (spray) of the electrode and very high deposition rates. It's a very deep penetrating electrode with very little slag produced that fills quickly and freezes quickly. Because of this many pipelines are welded out from root to cap completely downhill with a 10 series alkili electrode. Per API 1104 as well as the electrode classification and spec this is 100% acceptable. In the Construction Industry you deal with completely different codes. Most notably is AWS D1.1 code for Structural Steel as well as the AISC code book for construction and The UBC/IBC for building codes, all of which will refer back to the AWS D1.1 which specifies that structural members (classed as 1/8" thick and up, because less than 1/8" refers to the code for sheet steel/lt gage) must be welded with a cellulose low hydrogen (due to hydrogen embrittlement) electrode. None of which are produced that have the acceptable characteristics to be used in downhill progression. They are smoother (globular type arc characteristic), less deeply penetrating, have lower deposition rates and produce much more slag due to a different type and thickness of flux, which actually results in a slightly different and tougher alloy of finished weld metal. TOUGHNESS is what you're going for in the structural industry. You also use a different grade of steel that that on the pipelines. Most common pipe steel is A53 Gr B where most structural members must conform with A-36 or A992 for shapes and A500 for tubes. Thgere's way more than this that goes into it and I'd be here all day if I even remotely tried to scratch the surface. But in the end it's simply, different grade of steel, different subjected stresses (pipeline stress is internal and structural is external/compressive/cyclic etc) , therefore different codes are applied and different electrodes are specified. How you weld with those electrodes also by their very nature changes as well. For example you'd never get away with running a root weld on a moment frame with E-6010. 6010 is unacceptable in virtually every application under structural D1.1 code. However, by the opposite metric there are pipe applications where E-7018 is used and because it is an electrode that is specifically produced for uphill only progression, you'll never find a pipe welder weld with it downhill; because the code, the electrode specification and the manufactures specifically state you can't. So there are many pipe jobs where a 60 or 7010 root and hot are run and then it's filled and capped with 7018 or even dual shield flux cored and in the uphill progression. But most PIPELINE jobs that are manually welded are with 10 series electrodes that have the acceptable characteristics I described earlier that allow them to be used most quickly and efficiently in downhill progression that simply aren't acceptable for use in the building industry due to other characteristics that are undesireable in a structural load bearing application where the greatest forces are external (such as hydrogen embrittlement, low charpy toughness etc).
I have actually seen these guys in action. Very impressive. I believe they were 329. Pipelines . they were replacing faulty pipeline in California . I was on fire prevention.
Did you work the Grapevine with us?
@@CherylAnn798 we were out by the 33. And highway 5
@@CherylAnn798 I was with Tommy's water trucks
@@carlossantacruz6248 Of course...we loved working with all of you guys...it was a fun crew...crazy drive up that mountain...huh?
the title implies that this is the most extreme kind of pipeline welding or something??? Try welding oil pipeline in the ocean !!!
u did that and where?
shane ward lol uh well I saw another TH-cam video haha
lol
God i wish i could have sex with the roughest men
Is that it?
Man , it just don't get no better than that ! that's how it's supposed to be!
My father and another welder would burn 60lbs of stick in a 10hr shift. Pass the weld around to him and load another stick because he had to catch the bead as it was heading back to him. Poetry in motion for 10 hours.
BS. I worked in a pipe fab shop for 20 years. It took me about a week to go through a 50lb can of rod.
May jet rods in a shipyard.
But never on a pipe job
Those " shields " say it all , serious dogs .
Great skills and great work ethic.
recluse Wyoming is were i broke out in pipe line welding. lived in Gillette for 2yrs
i think i worked with the guy in the silver single cab pick up here in pa his name was robert good guy
Robert Good Guy...that's a funny name...
well i don't know anything about this kind of work.but i do see the exact same supervisors standing around watching WORK :(
I didn’t feel like a welder, I never thought I could either because I don’t…. What now?
What's so hard? - a little uphill, a little down hill and a little overhead, a snap! And, up to now, I thought the whole pipe spun at just the right speed.
What this pipe for? I can't recognize the insulation. Nice helmets, nice job, good guys! Thank You for show Us!
Epoxy coated, not insulation. I would have thought Uphand welding would be required.
BMR Studio the pipe will carry Johnny Walker Red Scotch Whisky from a distillery in Virginia all the way to Welder and Fitters heaven where someday we will all sit around and get hammered and share stories from tales of the dusty trail
This pipe runs from Canada to Mexico for transporting illegal aliens in pods like the ones at the drive thru at the bank.
'Some nice country to be welding in.
Can’t wait to break out of the shop and do some REAL welding!
How would i get a job like this this is cool i would love to work there even tho I've never made a weld in my life... I think having the ability to join 2 metal pieces together to make it 1 is probably an awesome feeling lol
find your local union :)
Shit looks like a clan meeting.
Good job guys keep working hard
The hoods they are using, pretty unique
thats freaking bad ass!
Looks like there's a lot more than welding ...those pipes don't lay the am selves out to be welded greate crew... GOT TO LOVE THE OIL INDUSTRY WITHOUT IT WE MIGHT AS WELL BE CAVEMEN ...
the pancake masks are lightweight and also when you are out on a pipeline like that they give a little bit more of a breeze, if there is any, to the sides of your face.... They serve all the necessary needs.
Most 798 welders are either left or right handed and don't switch back and forth. They are usually paired left and right
I've been a pipeline welding inspector and I have seen women weld as good or better than men
Frank Lyons How do they clean all the swarf and grinding out of the inside of the pipe?
George Mooyman with a Q-tip the kind that goes in your ear
Frank Lyons I used to work in a garbage truck manufacturing plant with a girl named Cordy who could out weld any guy there. Including me, it’s a well known fact some women have a steadier hand than most men.
George Mooyman
Once the pipeline or a section of it is completed, and before pressure testing, cleaning pigs, which are just big foam sponge type bullets are pushed down the line by pressure. This gets rid of most of the loose debris. After that, once the line taken into service, filters at the receiving ends will be monitored regularly until "normal" levels of foreign material are occuring. In cross pipeline welding of line pipe, weld procedures never have a need for back grinding or welding, internal welding work) The only internal welding related operations is the use of an x-ray head on crawler to x-ray each weld as after it is completed. This is now more and more being replaced by ultrasonics.
Frank Lyons 6
'So you think you're a pipeline welder?'... ... I'm not sure, I don't think I am. (I wasn't last time I checked. After close scrutiny I found that I was an electronics engineer on holiday)
haha I'm in Gillette and want to do some welding for the pipes. good video.
How many people does it take to weld a pipe? Nice video by the way
Northern Sweden Welding
Depends on the size of the pipe... usually 2 welders, 1 on each side...however, this job they ran 3 bead hands, to speed things up.
Cheryl Ann Lager why does the welder need all the helpers and why do they sit in there truck all day watching movies🤣
As a welder - I make a hell of a carpenter!. ;o)
All fun until winter hits.
Great video by the way
I love welding with my everlast welder. I sure want to weld for a career.
Calling 798 tomorrow
damn it you proofed me wrong
Got some them 798 hands up here in pa Texas rod burners baby "when the pancake drops the bullshit stops"
i'd love this job
That's a cherry welding helmet where did you folks buy it from
10 years welding in Malaysia
My first month in doing horizontal overlaps. Going to verticals next, any tips from your expertise?
I don't think I'am a pipeline welder ,I know I'am
Tell that spacer Dannyboy from Texas says working hard! Worked with him bout 4 years back
Are you talking about Pipe Baby?
I liked it. No I'm no pipeliner not this year lol
You got to respect these old welders, But now they're coming out with automatic welders that do just as good job.
James Jones
Automatics are great for flat and straight... we still need our welders with trucks for the hills...and for tying in the loose ends!
James Jones automatic welders can't tell great jokes, get in bar fights, and fart on you first thing in the morning.
@@CherylAnn798 Not to mention it takes 2 welders to make sure the automatics turn out acceptable quality work.
Idk if I want to be a pipeline welder or a construction welder.
quite like to see them weld the bottom, and wet conditions, not so happy then ,, and to make a sound weld.. you guys earn every dollar ya receive,,
Yea laying on pallets in th mud.
12 hour shifts? spending all day staring at a dime sized ball of fire? What goes through your mind in a day like that?
Gerald Posey
It's all about the BENJAMINS.... $$$$$$$$
a big pay at the end of the day
trying to make every weld better than the last, its like a constant competition ...against yourself and then ...one day...you're overqualified and start your own shop...but nobody can afford your shop rate...except NASA
Sleep lol
During those shifts I think to myself should I buy the SL 550 Amg Coupe Mercedez Benz or the Dodge Ram Lariat right?
I would love a job like that
cody Fish honestly you wouldnt
Why
Its a f...ing hard job
cody Fis
No no you would not
No matter what they are paid it is not enough! I thought surface coal mining was tough, I was fooled!
Trades make the world go round you want a career that will out live you get into a trade
My husband's father always told him,
"Learn a trade son, learn a trade"....
Yes sir, Master Electrician between 75-130 per hour, and no cubicle!
Cheryl Ann Lager I just saw a post on facebook from Charley Project featuring Shaun. Was foul play suspected in Shaun's disappearance? Is it possible he just walked away from his life and started fresh somewhere? I read his DL and debit card were missing. Haven't the authorities tracked any spending? I share ALL missing children and eldery info., but when it's a healthy adult, I ask questions before I share the info.
This was a strange case, as we last saw Shaun on the job in Gillette, WY. There was a possibility drugs were involved, all I know is they found his truck and he has yet to be found...very sad for the friends and family involved.
If it's this easy compared to normal stick welding sign me up.
JOEY RABBIT you better just stick to the rabbit habit there Joey.these fellers just make it look easy
BRAVO !!!!!!!
you got, your not the only person in the world
? Wha......t?
i love my HTP striker stealth helmet.. but i also see the benefit of these pancakes... sun glare is a real problem in my helmet
Good job