2004 Honda S2000 - Why the AP2 S2000 is such a collectible car
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The 2004 Honda S2000 is actually the 7th S-platform convertible made by Honda...going back to the original S360.
Daisuke Sawai designed both the original SSM 5 cylinder show car unveiled at Geneva in 1995. He also designed the all new 2000 Honda S2000 which was initially sold in 1999.
The S-model cars are as follows:
1962: S360 (none sold)
1963: S500 chain drive convertible with 9500 rpm redline
1964: S600 dual chain drive coupe and convertible
1966: S800 70hp, 10,000 rpm redline and 100 mph
AP1 S2000 has the Honda F20C engine in Japan with 247 hp and 155 lb-ft of torque
AP1 (US Spec) has the Honda F20C1 engine with 237 hp and 155 lb-ft of torque.
Engine rev limiter is set at 9200 rpm yielding a mean piston speed of 25.9 mps, an all-time record.
2004 is the first year of the AP2 with a 2157 cc F22c1 engine with 237 hp and 162 lb-ft of torque, 17 inch wheels, stiffer subframe, different suspension settings and 8300 rpm rev limit.
The AP2 S2000 also has carbon fiber synchros instead of brass and shorter gearing 1-5 and longer gearing in 6th gear.
The AP1 S2000 was built in Takanezawa, alongside the Acura NSX. The Ap2 S2000 was built in Suzuka. Both models feature a 94.5 inch wheelbase, power convertible top, 2809 lb weight and ideal 50/50 weight distribution with rear wheel drive and a longitudinally mounted front mid engine.
Soichiro Honda was fired by Toyota, rose to prominence only to see his factory bombed to ruin in WW2. He raised enough capital for one last go and made a great success of himself only to lose everything in a massive earthquake. Soichiro Honda is one of the single most important people in the history of the car business and a model of perseverance.
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In terms of pure engineering, this thing shouldn’t exist. They lost money on each sale, to celebrate their 50th anniversary. This won’t happen again in this corporate world where profit out weighs obsessive passion. Buy one while you still can.
I've given Toyota a hard time for calling the new BMW Z4 a "Supra," but I can see Honda calling a new Miata the "next S2000." It's just the times we live in.
The Fast Lane with Joe Tunney Yes indeed. We just need to be greatful they give us anything these days. Back in the day you to be a bit spontaneous with ideas and resources could be exploited a little bit, you could also win people over with enthusiasm. Now with automation, spreadsheets, shareholders, board members, ect.... You will be lucky if anyone even listens to an idea these days. I have the same car 05 but because it’s a U.K. spec (updated body and suspension 17inch rims) it also retains the F20C 9k red line with no traction control.
You did your homework, good job! 👍
Thanks for taking a look Louis, I appreciate it!
Great video Joe! You always have the best s2000 videos!
Thanks John's S2K, your opinion means a lot...They really are the best deal on the market for a collectible car you can drive everyday.
John's S2K How do you enjoy it if you don’t drive it? I have an 05 38k. UK facelift AP1. Great cars as they are extremely well engineered.
I am glad to have 2004 S2000 w 8k miles
You have as valuable a car that cost $30,000 new that there is in the entire automobile industry. What an awesome and bank-breaking collectible you have onesri...what color is it?
do u ever drive that car ?? that is super duper low mileage ?? car will get rusted even if u don’t drive it !!!!! : )
@@lonnietran1925 you can spray and wash to prevent rust
The Dude bro , can u do a video ??
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The Dude to prevent rust
I am fortunate that I purchased a 2004 s2000 that was hand built!!!
10 years fro now your car is going to be worth a lot of money Diva De Viva...20 years from now your car is going to be worth A LOT of money
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Great cars. I believe that the 2.0 liter engine in the AP1 cars actually redlines at 8,800 RPM with the rev limiter kicking in at 9,000 RPM. While the 2.2 liter engine in the AP2 cars redlines at 8,000 RPM with the rev limiter kicking in at 8,200 RPM.
You are right Virtual, the redline is less than the rev limiter...but as the mechanics told me back in 2001 when I bought mine (after my transmission went bad at 12000 miles) "they're made to go all in, so don't be afraid to go all in."
@@everycarSeattle Agreed, I was only pointing out that the RPM figures are a bit lower than what you quoted in the video. When Honda designs a high-revving engine you can bet that the engine is not going to have a problem with constant visits to the redline. That is basically part of Honda's DNA. Going all in and bumping up against the rev limiter is not a problem even if the maximum power output has already come and gone by then. What can cause problems is if someone totally blows a shift at redline, thus mechanically forcing the engine way past the rev limiter.
Looking at the current automotive landscape, these focused yet minimalist sports cars now seem even more like a gift from Honda than ever before. Not even Honda could have predicted just how much change would occur just during the lifespan of the S2000 let alone how things would look at this point in time. These are iconic cars and now is definitely the time to be enjoying them.
Why the hell would anyone trade in a Honda s2000 for a BMW??
Not many Tunney's kicking about. Hi from the UK.
It's funny Barry Scott...we're on vacation in Australia and just ran into a Tunney from Ireland and 10 minutes later I see your post. Thank you so much for taking a look, hopefully I'm not bringing down the family name!
Big thanks to my friends at BMW of Hawaii for making this video happen! Black on Black S2000's with 70k are just about the best fun per dollar car you're ever going to buy!
Nice and what a good Year for a Convertible
I love that car, what a blast to drive!
Very good review thanks for sharing
Thanks for taking a look Turbo S2000...I'm going to guess there's a good story behind that name...
As a tip for shooting car videos, stand behind the car while filming. That way I can look at the car while you talk.
Nice suggestion Mike, I'm going to give that a try
Somebody TRADED IN an s2000? Wonder if they got even 5k for it lol
*F22c
The 2 Japanese engines were the F20C and F22C, while the 2 US Spec engines were F20C1 and F22C1...I'd be curious to see if a Japanese market S2000 performs differently than the domestic one...10 horsepower might be significant in such a small car.
Can you review that Mustang GT sitting out front?😍😍
That caught my eye too Rip.
I have a GPW AP1 S2000 with 61k original miles, all stock.
A low mile, completely original AP1 is going to be worth A LOT of money in 10 years...A LOT of money!