Damn what timing! I just bought my '05 AP2 haha. I've been loving the absolute crap out of this car. Despite how expensive it is, I think it's worth owning once
Same, mate. I bought an 04 in August for $15.5k w/ only 60k miles. The seller was kind of desperate for the money because he needed immediate work done on his house. My first S2K and man I'm loving this thing!
I cringe when people say “this is the way it should have come from factory”, when they have modified it to have lightning fast throttle response, lighter flywheel, heavy clutch… The S2000 is already a pretty raw driving experience even stock. Honda made it that way on purpose, but it’s still meant to be driven normally in normal everyday traffic. I love VTEC, but it doesn’t need to kick in yo before 4000 rpm. That’s like normal cruising rpm in these.
It depends on your setup.. And it depends how you want the car to drive and have the torque delivered.. For me, I prioritize torque and midrange on the street, so having lower vtec to get the air flowing is ideal so you can be moving at lower rpm.. You will sacrifice top end, but its all about how you want to drive the car.. I have the best of both worlds in the dc5.. Its awd, 600whp, k20A Type R head and K24a2 bottom end. Vtec comes in at 4500rpm, and it revs to 9k and pulls all the way to redline. Its a Wonderful car to drive daily too because it has such great torque. Yeah, it doesnt have that crazy 6k rpm crossover, but I dont really want that either.
It's true. My vtec is set to 4500rpm at Wot, and the engagement is so smooth that you can hardly tell vtec is engaging. The mid-range torque is nice, and it still pulls hard all the way to redline.
Hey Cam, I’ve been a follower for a few years now (my daily is an ‘18 fk8) but my (just finished) project is ‘73 bmw 2002 with an ‘07 AP2 engine. The engine is an absolute beast and as much as I love my K20c1, the F22c1 is so much more enjoyable for me. The sounds, the feel, and that redline always hit the spot. So one more vote from me on getting an s2k 🤚 Good luck and keep up the content!
Had many hot cars (and motorcycles) in my 69 years. I've had my 2000 S2000 21 years and this is, and will be, the only car I'll never sell. Most previous owners that I know are always quick to remind me that it's the only car they never should have sold. As we all know there is nothing like it..
I test drove an AP1 at a dealership about 6 months after getting my 2017 Si and learning how to drive manual. I got cocky and I thought I could drive anything with a stick at that point. Boy was I wrong. The RPMs drop like a rock in the S2000. I roasted the clutch so bad. I looked at the salesman before getting out of the parking lot and said “this is completely different than my Si” You’re really not going that fast in the s2000, but even 40 mph feels like a rocket ship because you feel everything.
@@JonHop1 i didn’t ruin it. Got it warm enough to smell though. He didn’t seem happy, but it was an AP1 that they had for over 2 yrs with a rebuilt trans and motor.
I've owned my s2k since 2017, 2005 ap2. I've taken it everywhere including the tail of the dragon. I love my car. LHT Performance are the go to people, John and George are fantastic people. Mine is my daily driver.
@@palleto1 never driven a boosted one, but NA gets the job done. Its slower so dont forget that, but the thrill i would say is more engaging. Lottss of emotion everytime i get in and rip vtec
Proud second owner of a 2004 Silverstone S2K with original OEM hardtop. Owned since July 2012 with 68k on it. Paid $16,500. Currently has 98K. I absolutely adore this vehicle.
Own a fk8 and ap2. No regrets, however, I do plan on getting rid of my fk8 and keeping my ap2 for a very very long term. S2k is much more rewarding. I track both cars too
The owner is right about slowing down your shift speed. Older gearboxes don't really like to be hurried, you should grip the shifter lightly and feel it go into gear. You'll blow out the synchros prematurely. I have friends who shift like this and it drives me crazy.
To clarify, a proper header will ALWAYS increase HP on these NA Honda motors.. What I think he might be talking about is losing torque and midrange? I gained over 30hp from a cheap ebay header.. but I did lose down low, but gained a lot up top..
I used to daily mine 90 miles a day on a 4-12 schedule AND I tracked it. Was my dream car for 15 years. She's sitting in the garage now with a nice 166k miles on it. I'm keeping that car for life.
Love these! i see quite a few of these on the road, they all look beautiful. Love the hard tops over the convertible tops. I can definitely see you getting one of these bad boys cam! 🔥 could be a little project car, i know youre looking for another SI but the S2K would be a great contender. 🔥
Beautiful car Cameron! It’s a tight squeeze for my 6’3 frame but would still love to get one someday. Hopefully the rumors are true that Honda is planning on bringing it back(swing for the fences!)before we all go full electric in the future…🥀
Even if they bring it back it will never be the same because safety and emissions regulations will kill the spirit and essence of the s2k. I do hope they bring it back because it will make people realize how good the original s2k was.
@@sengvang3718 I’m sure you’re right unfortunately but let’s all cross our fingers that Honda will produce an S2000 that will honor the original while also adhering to the current automotive standards. I know it’s wishful thinking but a non hybrid Type R powered slightly larger S2000 would be nice. Various car companies like Ford are not jumping on the electric bandwagon too soon because of a number of reasons…especially lack of profitability. There will be time for other full electric Honda models…let’s just hope Honda doesn’t ruin the S2000 like Acura did to the Integra…until the recent Type S.
I miss my s2k. It’s a great platform, so much fun. I’m looking to buy another one in the near future, but the prices of these things these days are just getting more insane everyday day
Cam, you just brought back so many good memories of my RSX Type S. FBO, Tuned, with Cams. 9300 rpm redline. Wanna talk about glorious sound. Trapped 107’s all day.
as a previous s2k owner for 10 years..one of my biggest regrets is letting my s2k go..yea i have a ‘20 fk8 now but an s2k is just it’s own world..in short yes sell the brz get best of both fwd and rwd world hondas
The medallion exhaust on my AP2 supercharged S2000 does have drone and the the exhaust is much louder compared to the factory one. If I had a stock S2000, I am sure the medallion exhaust wouldn’t have drone. I had the medallion exhaust off and on my car like three different times in one month. I ended up going back to stock since I couldn’t deal with it.
Def need to drive a stock car to compare, like he said this example is quite modified and being aftermarket ECU and tune it drives like a different beast im sure. Find a stock AP1 to drive!!
You mentioned about being worried flooring the car 20x lol I have a very strong feeling you've never tracked your car before! Imagine flooring for 20min straight 3-4x per track day! Our cars can handle much more than you think!
Its an awesome car. Makes less power than the big turbo 10th gen si i had but x100 more fun and engaging. My wife even says she thinks it feels faster lol.
I can see your desire to keep the BRZ wavering lol. Personally I would sell the BRZ and get into something you really want, especially after all the stories you hear about those engines just blowing up. Great video as always 👍🏽
@@Camhill182 Yea that’s a tough call man but I get it. I’d hate to see you get rid of it for TH-cam purposes, especially if you actually like the car. Still think you should pickup a Probe GT or a Bonaville SSEi lol. Not a lot of love for domestic 90s cars on TH-cam. It would definitely be refreshing to see.
I was thinking of buying a ballade titanium exhaust for my s2k but I am having second thoughts after what he said about them been shady. There’s just too many shady people already on the car community.
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Damn what timing! I just bought my '05 AP2 haha. I've been loving the absolute crap out of this car. Despite how expensive it is, I think it's worth owning once
may i ask how much you got it ? year/mileage condition? market is all over the place
Same, mate. I bought an 04 in August for $15.5k w/ only 60k miles. The seller was kind of desperate for the money because he needed immediate work done on his house. My first S2K and man I'm loving this thing!
@@commonintel 15.5k with 60k is a crazy deal
That F22 in that car was touched by the hand of God lol - most AP2s def dont make that power with those mods , fun cars for sure
S2000 is a Beast 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Man… if you get an s2000 I don’t think you’ll ever stop loving it. Glad you were able to give it a try on a nice setup
Amazing cars, for sure. I like the trunk space in my BRZ’s, but I would trade it for an AP2 any day
I can do a legit full Costco run in the 22+ BRZ with the seats down. S2K or Miata? Unfortunately, not possible.
A full size golf bag fits in the trunk of my S2000, and a folding push cart goes on the front seat. I’d say a pretty good space for my use 😀
I want an S2000 so bad. I have an 2023 SI so having that as my daily and the s2000 to do whatever with would be so fun
I have a 2007 ap2 s2k and a 2023 fl5 civic type R. But yea the raw and analog feeling of the s2k is still the best feeling in a car.
I cringe when people say “this is the way it should have come from factory”, when they have modified it to have lightning fast throttle response, lighter flywheel, heavy clutch…
The S2000 is already a pretty raw driving experience even stock. Honda made it that way on purpose, but it’s still meant to be driven normally in normal everyday traffic. I love VTEC, but it doesn’t need to kick in yo before 4000 rpm. That’s like normal cruising rpm in these.
It depends on your setup.. And it depends how you want the car to drive and have the torque delivered.. For me, I prioritize torque and midrange on the street, so having lower vtec to get the air flowing is ideal so you can be moving at lower rpm.. You will sacrifice top end, but its all about how you want to drive the car.. I have the best of both worlds in the dc5.. Its awd, 600whp, k20A Type R head and K24a2 bottom end. Vtec comes in at 4500rpm, and it revs to 9k and pulls all the way to redline. Its a Wonderful car to drive daily too because it has such great torque. Yeah, it doesnt have that crazy 6k rpm crossover, but I dont really want that either.
It's true. My vtec is set to 4500rpm at Wot, and the engagement is so smooth that you can hardly tell vtec is engaging. The mid-range torque is nice, and it still pulls hard all the way to redline.
Hey Cam, I’ve been a follower for a few years now (my daily is an ‘18 fk8) but my (just finished) project is ‘73 bmw 2002 with an ‘07 AP2 engine. The engine is an absolute beast and as much as I love my K20c1, the F22c1 is so much more enjoyable for me. The sounds, the feel, and that redline always hit the spot. So one more vote from me on getting an s2k 🤚 Good luck and keep up the content!
That’s a pretty sick project car man. Love the idea of putting vtech in one of those lightweight bmws.
Beautiful red color,legendary drivers car,best thing he actually drives it
S2000 over BRZ/GR86/Miata any day of the year
Beautiful AP2!! To be honest tho,even in bone stock form they are phenomenal cars. This owner and his tuner just made it that much better.👌🏽🔥🔥🔥
Can we just appreciate how awesome Honda is honestly they just make the best cars.
Had many hot cars (and motorcycles) in my 69 years. I've had my 2000 S2000 21 years and this is, and will be, the only car I'll never sell. Most previous owners that I know are always quick to remind me that it's the only car they never should have sold. As we all know there is nothing like it..
I'm one of those owners...😢😊
Car is amazing!!! No need for a radio when you have that engine sound!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
The S2K shifter is by far one of the best factory shifters. But when you add the Hybrid Racing shifter to one it honestly is a game changer.
Cam, the smile on your face, you need to get one. What a great looking ride, S2000 baby 🤟
I test drove an AP1 at a dealership about 6 months after getting my 2017 Si and learning how to drive manual. I got cocky and I thought I could drive anything with a stick at that point. Boy was I wrong.
The RPMs drop like a rock in the S2000. I roasted the clutch so bad. I looked at the salesman before getting out of the parking lot and said “this is completely different than my Si”
You’re really not going that fast in the s2000, but even 40 mph feels like a rocket ship because you feel everything.
hopefully u paid them for a new clutch..
@@JonHop1 i didn’t ruin it. Got it warm enough to smell though. He didn’t seem happy, but it was an AP1 that they had for over 2 yrs with a rebuilt trans and motor.
Which is all that should matter. It ahouldnt be too fast, but should ve feelfull. Its why so many nodern cars are just awfully boring.
6/10 driving skills? Cam just doesn’t want to go all out cause it’s not his car. he’s underrated
I love LHT! Great shop!
I've owned my s2k since 2017, 2005 ap2. I've taken it everywhere including the tail of the dragon. I love my car. LHT Performance are the go to people, John and George are fantastic people. Mine is my daily driver.
Replaced my FK8 with an AP2 and yeah… its a hell of a car
I daily a 17 fk8 and have actually been looking at boosted s2ks. how is it?
@@palleto1 never driven a boosted one, but NA gets the job done.
Its slower so dont forget that, but the thrill i would say is more engaging.
Lottss of emotion everytime i get in and rip vtec
Proud second owner of a 2004 Silverstone S2K with original OEM hardtop. Owned since July 2012 with 68k on it. Paid $16,500. Currently has 98K. I absolutely adore this vehicle.
Sweet car. Awesome camera work. Got some great shots at the end.
Thanks!
As an 07 NFR AP2 owner, expensive? Yes. Worth it? Yes. 👍🏻 unfortunate you couldn’t drive it on twistier roads! hope to see you in one soon 🤝🏻
Own my 08 CR for 5 years. Love it
Nice video of a beautiful s2000! Christian is a true enthousiast who likes to share his knowledge with others, very helpful. 👍
The “old school colour” rev gauge is actually modelled on the infamous McLaren MP4 which was one of the most successful cars in F1 history.
Own a fk8 and ap2. No regrets, however, I do plan on getting rid of my fk8 and keeping my ap2 for a very very long term. S2k is much more rewarding. I track both cars too
The owner is right about slowing down your shift speed. Older gearboxes don't really like to be hurried, you should grip the shifter lightly and feel it go into gear. You'll blow out the synchros prematurely. I have friends who shift like this and it drives me crazy.
You’ll NEVER regret buying an S2k…..promise 100%
If u get an S2K the channel will definitely grow in audience
To clarify, a proper header will ALWAYS increase HP on these NA Honda motors.. What I think he might be talking about is losing torque and midrange? I gained over 30hp from a cheap ebay header.. but I did lose down low, but gained a lot up top..
Love the s2k, especially the ap1
Truly an amazing car, I would love to own one 1 day
That car is a dream but hard to find especially in that condition haha. Same goes for a good evo 9.
Do it! I have an AP1 and a FK8. Best combo
The s2000 is my dream car !
I used to daily mine 90 miles a day on a 4-12 schedule AND I tracked it. Was my dream car for 15 years. She's sitting in the garage now with a nice 166k miles on it. I'm keeping that car for life.
Congrats, you now have the itch 😂 I’ve had my ap1 for about a year and a half now and nothing really compares to the driving experience.
Honda should bring back S2000, just like what they did to the Type R
200 more horsepower is a very fun S2000. If done well, it's still drives the same, but you find speed much quicker.
Love it!Get an s2000 before it’s to late there amazing 🔥
I want and s2000 super bad but my supercharged 8th gen si still brings me so much joy!!
The S2K is amazing for sure but I’d love to see you explore the BRZ further. Especially with the HKS boost, etc.
Love these! i see quite a few of these on the road, they all look beautiful. Love the hard tops over the convertible tops. I can definitely see you getting one of these bad boys cam! 🔥 could be a little project car, i know youre looking for another SI but the S2K would be a great contender. 🔥
Beautiful car Cameron! It’s a tight squeeze for my 6’3 frame but would still love to get one someday. Hopefully the rumors are true that Honda is planning on bringing it back(swing for the fences!)before we all go full electric in the future…🥀
Even if they bring it back it will never be the same because safety and emissions regulations will kill the spirit and essence of the s2k. I do hope they bring it back because it will make people realize how good the original s2k was.
@@sengvang3718 I’m sure you’re right unfortunately but let’s all cross our fingers that Honda will produce an S2000 that will honor the original while also adhering to the current automotive standards. I know it’s wishful thinking but a non hybrid Type R powered slightly larger S2000 would be nice. Various car companies like Ford are not jumping on the electric bandwagon too soon because of a number of reasons…especially lack of profitability. There will be time for other full electric Honda models…let’s just hope Honda doesn’t ruin the S2000 like Acura did to the Integra…until the recent Type S.
You should totally get an S2K!
I’m all in for the s2k
I miss my s2k. It’s a great platform, so much fun. I’m looking to buy another one in the near future, but the prices of these things these days are just getting more insane everyday day
CamHSquad!!🎉🎉 I love the S2K
AP2 all day! They are beautiful! I like that the BRZ has a little more space, but man that S2K is something else!
I have the Ballade Type S exhaust and it's amazing!
I love my S2000, congrats!
I could totally see you owning one of these bro, underrated as hell cars!
@Tanner-Teves have you seen the price of these? They're definitely not underrated!
@@steve8803 I meant underrated in the sense that they aren’t talked about a lot lol. Everything is overpriced nowadays.
@@Tanner_Teves they were overpriced because of hype even before '19. I was searching for one for years. Could never justify the price.
Nobody ever said the s2000 is underated lol!
Very cool video, enjoyed this one. Would go supercharged for sure. 450whp with 8500rpm redline = money.
you got to get one!!!
The s2000 was one of my dream cars growing up, hence the name lol. Maybe one day I'll get one. In the meantime, the FL5 will do.
I had an AP2 S2000. I regret selling it. Get it if you can!!
Hi Cam, big fan of the channel. If you're ever back in norcal, i'd love for you to review my "mugen-ized" s2000!
Cam, you just brought back so many good memories of my RSX Type S. FBO, Tuned, with Cams. 9300 rpm redline. Wanna talk about glorious sound. Trapped 107’s all day.
"i cant justify 2k to make ten hp" "i have ten exhausts" 😅
as a previous s2k owner for 10 years..one of my biggest regrets is letting my s2k go..yea i have a ‘20 fk8 now but an s2k is just it’s own world..in short yes sell the brz get best of both fwd and rwd world hondas
I was yelling at the screen when you first got on it lol REV IT OUT!!!!!
After this video I'm planning on swapping my 2017 Type-R with a S2000 :)😂. Thanks for the video.
The medallion exhaust has no drone on the S2000 👍🏻 so it’s not a S2000 thing to have drone .
Most 60mm don’t . When it comes to making power with a 70mm exhaust, drone is a huge factor
The medallion exhaust on my AP2 supercharged S2000 does have drone and the the exhaust is much louder compared to the factory one. If I had a stock S2000, I am sure the medallion exhaust wouldn’t have drone.
I had the medallion exhaust off and on my car like three different times in one month. I ended up going back to stock since I couldn’t deal with it.
Cam your face is priceless,I wish I could learn how to heel toe my SI
Great vid Cam!!! Yes sell theBRZ n get an S2K lol
Def need to drive a stock car to compare, like he said this example is quite modified and being aftermarket ECU and tune it drives like a different beast im sure. Find a stock AP1 to drive!!
Yes just yes get an s2000, I'm doing the same as I could never sell my fk8.
interesting convex RPF1's in the front and concave ones in the rear.....they would look so clean painted white or gold
Find a good condition AP1/2 with low miles and keep it forever!
s2k over brz all day plus you got the R for daily !
You mentioned about being worried flooring the car 20x lol I have a very strong feeling you've never tracked your car before! Imagine flooring for 20min straight 3-4x per track day! Our cars can handle much more than you think!
conflicted between a white or red s2000
yes sell the BRZ and yeah he’s right your shifting too fast , you can keep it in 4th gear a bit longer don’t go to 5th right away
A true drivers car😌
YES PLEASE CAM WE DON'T WANT ANOTHER CIVIC YESSSS!!
Trade the brz for the s2000
Its an awesome car. Makes less power than the big turbo 10th gen si i had but x100 more fun and engaging. My wife even says she thinks it feels faster lol.
instantly sell the BRZ and find an s2k asap!
Damn you for making combing bat for s2000s😂
I like a thick rear end too!
Try A MX5 First!
They Are Dope!
I Had The RF For A Week And Loved It! 👊🏻
I own an S and have driven the RF and honestly I think the Miata is more fun lol
YES SELL THE BRZ FOR A 2000
I’ve wanted an S2000 since they came out. Still can’t afford one lol
S2000 = Amazing! Great video!
Rumor has it that Toyota is parting ways with Subaru on the GR86. Most likely it’ll share engines with the GR Corolla.
I like how everyone who jacks with their car says “this is how it should have come from the factory”
I got a 15' Fb6 31K miles Clean Title for 19K in Cali, If interested.
Is anyone willing to explain why to wait a little bit on 5000 rpm before going redline?
“What are feeling, Lance... 40 weight? 50 weight?”
40 wig sounds nice
I would love to have one but they so much money
Buying a used expensive car is very tricky. Even with a pre inspection it could be money pit
Clean example 💯
I can see your desire to keep the BRZ wavering lol. Personally I would sell the BRZ and get into something you really want, especially after all the stories you hear about those engines just blowing up. Great video as always 👍🏽
I wouldn't say that. For my own interests, I would love to keep the BRZ. For TH-cam, however, I'm not quite sure. Does that make sense?
@@Camhill182 Yea that’s a tough call man but I get it. I’d hate to see you get rid of it for TH-cam purposes, especially if you actually like the car. Still think you should pickup a Probe GT or a Bonaville SSEi lol. Not a lot of love for domestic 90s cars on TH-cam. It would definitely be refreshing to see.
CAMERON PLZ GET A S2K!
Ten exhausts? Just stick with stock lol. He’s right about the rock chips. My S is covered with them despite being only 55k miles
Stock header gang 💪🏾
I was thinking of buying a ballade titanium exhaust for my s2k but I am having second thoughts after what he said about them been shady. There’s just too many shady people already on the car community.
VTEC at 3600 RPMS? I want!
Hey Cameron why did the guy kept saying to push the clutch all the way down and slow on the shifts?
Bite point is low on my clutch, if not pressed all the way down , shifting will not be smooth.