My dad had been signed off for life as he was told he had 3 months left to live due to mouth cancer, they were forced to treat him because he was still alive 4 months later. Then benefits brought him in for an interview and said he was fit to work because he could walk along a corridor. Benefits were taken off him. He bled to death 12 weeks later as a tumour to his heart pierced through a heart valve. ❤️ monsters ruin his last months and my mums and our last bit of time with him. He was dying at the interview, we should have claimed compensation but grief takes over.
Oh Hunny how awful 🤗 rest assured Your beloved will have Justice soon . I Am sending prayers for Your healing and someday forgiveness for this atrocity 🤗🕊
It’s amazing how friendly these PIP assessors are at face-to-face meetings. It’s not until you read the reasons for your application being turned down that you fully see (but not appreciate) their levels of deception. One has to play them at their own game. This is a simple but very useful video, thanks and well done to the author.
Simple - they are out and out bastards. The more they remove, the more they meet their targets, and the more tax payer bonus they get. Privatization is about profit not caring or helping folk. Don't forget most of us were already entitled to pip, and dla before that, were already in receipt of these allowance. It's about removing help and punishing disabled folk to cure their un curable disabilities. What a despicable country this has become, and what disgusting profiteers those have become who do the bidding of this and past governments. No scrutiny when it come so politicians expenses and bonuses. Just saying.
NEVER say that you have "good & bad days", they will concentrate on the "good" bit & refuse payment. My late Wife had this problem, although she was diagnosed with terminal cancer & given a few months to live, according to the "lovely people" who interviewed her, she was "getting better" !! With the help of a local hospice, we appealed & eventually won, but at that time, we could have done without the aggro & injustice !!
I'm truly sorry to hear about the tough experience you and your late wife went through. It's really unfair when the focus is not on the full reality of someone's health situation. It's great that the local hospice could support you in appealing and that you eventually won, but it's clear that the stress was something you shouldn't have had to deal with, especially during such a difficult time. Thank you for sharing your story; it's an important reminder for others to be mindful of how they describe their situation. Your strength and determination to fight for what was right are admirable.
You should affirm that all the days are bad but some may very slightly better than others. Remember they are there not to help you get a payment to help with your health condition but to get the fee for a successful kickoff but the interrogator and the organisation that pays the interrogators and save government money for the hotels and benefits of foreign illegals who the many dodgy politicians in government and civil servants groom as gay call boys and soften the law to legalise paedophilia.
I arrived at an appointment with my dad and my husband to be told that they were running behind so there would be a bit of a wait. At the time I was horribly agoraphobic but had been told that if I didn’t attend the appointment I’d lose the benefit. I sat between dad and hubby for a good 30 minutes squeezing their hands so tightly that I was hurting them, nauseous and hyperventilating, using every last ounce of strength I had not to fly out of that building to the safety of the car. When I read the report that came with the refusal letter it stated that they’d left me in the waiting room ON PURPOSE - ie there was no delay - to see if I could cope, and because I was still there at the end of their ‘trial period’ I was clearly fit for work. I also discovered that the person interviewing me regarding my mental health was a physiotherapist. I am so glad to be out of that system and my sympathies lie with everybody having to jump through their unattainable hoops.
I'm really sorry to hear about what you went through. It sounds like it was a very tough time for you, especially having to wait when you felt so uncomfortable and scared. It's not fair that you were put in such a difficult situation, especially when you were there to get help. It's also surprising to hear that the person you spoke to wasn't specialised in mental health. I'm glad to hear you're in a better place now, but it's sad to think others are still facing hard times with these processes. Thank you for sharing your story; it's important for others to know they're not alone in these experiences. If you ever want to talk more about it or share anything else, we're here to listen.
@@RachaelMorgan-om4xw Thank you, Rachael. I’m in a much better place now but at the time it was awful and humiliating and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
@@christinaneeparker I've helped a few people with claims and I always tell them to get a letter from their GP stating that they will require a home visit for their assessment. This is most important if you have difficulty leaving your home for any reason. Type up your own letter and tell your GP that this is the type of letter you require. As an example, if you suffer from IBS and are prescribed medication for this condition then you can say that you need to be close to a toilet for most of the time. It doesn't matter if this is not always the case or you don't always need the medication. The fact is that you have been diagnosed with and suffer from this highly unpredictable condition and so your GP should have no problem stating this in a letter for you. I remember an assessor once saying that because a home visit had been requested via a letter from the GP then it was a "no brainer" for him. The assessor was a really nice Sikh guy.
Christina, I hope you are requesting a review. Honestly, your attendance at the office was their first trick, and I can see that you were bullied into going. It was very brave of you. Next time dig your heels in, insist that your whole life is terrifying outside the safety of your own home. Explain how traumtised you were by the deeply cruel way you were treated, and that you feel it has made you even worse. They will have to acknowledge this. Be cool, you will win! Good luck 🥰
💜 I am tearful just reliving my experiences in the 2 hour exhausting assessment even though the assessor was nice and patient. Wish everyone strength and the positive support they deserve
If you are not happy with the outcome of your PIP assessment take it to Tribunal, I waited over a year for mine and yes , it was stressful and at times I thought ‘ Oh lord , why did I do this ❓’ … however I was awarded Enhanced Daily living and enhanced mobility just by the judge looking at my papers , I didn’t even have to turn up in the end . Such a relief , if you are genuine and KNOW you are entitled to an award fight for it , it’s hard but so worth it .
Take it all the way to a tribunal , at mine the DWP doctor asked me if I could pick up an empty cardboard box , I stood up with my walking stick in one hand and told him health and safety clearly states to use both hands to lift along with bent knees , the tribunal judge awarded me PIP backdated to the previous year
The bent kangaroo court I had to face went even further than reducing points, they took the lot. Didn't even consider any medical support, and spoke to me like something they'd just trodden on. I had to re apply, and that was a task in it's self. Now it's time to face all the lies again.
I'm glad to hear that you stood up for yourself and explained how to lift things safely, even something as light as an empty cardboard box. It's really good news that the judge understood your situation and decided in your favour, giving you back your PIP from the previous year. It must have been a tough process to go through, but it sounds like you did a great job explaining your point. Thank you for sharing your experience; it might help others who are in a similar situation and are thinking about going to a tribunal. If you have any more advice or stories, feel free to share them.
I applied for PIP 3 years ago as I have a bad back injury and also suffer from breathlessness. I am 67. There are days when I struggle to walk up my garden path, about 10 metres. I was turned down on the grounds that, and I quote "We believe you can *easily* walk 500 metres. You can also make a sandwich. You have no problems with communication" and a few other reasons why they turned down my claim. I appealed and got the same response. *THIS WAS WITHOUT THEM EVEN SEEING ME* . They would not give me a face to face interview. I won't be called a liar - which is what they did. I gave up with them. It seems to me that the PIP questions are aimed at people with dementia or senility, neither of which I have. Frankly, these people disgust me and I feel for anyone who's been humiliated by this cruel and unjust system.
The PIP goons count on people giving up on their claims so THEY win & not you. Go to Tribunal, i understand that's the only way to beat the first hurdle, especially for first time claimants.
I was refused because they said I could walk 200 metres without any aid. I told the interviewer I get breathless walking upstairs. These questions seem to be out of the Tory Bible. Vote Reform.
@@stevendavies6209 I am voting Reform and have been helping them. I can't go leafleting but have been helping in other ways. Spread the word *VOTE REFORM* .
I was refused because I could answer the phone , I had no choice but to answer the phone to them . If I hadn’t I would have been refused , which I was anyway. The report I received was full of lies, how these people sleep at night is mind boggling. They cannot assess a person over the phone !
@@Catmad65 I applied a couple of years ago as I have breathing difficulties and a back injury. There are days I can barely walk 20ft up my garden path. It was a telephone interview. I was turned down because I could make a sandwich!!! When they sent the letter stating why I'd been turned down, they also said, and I quote _"You can easily walk 500 metres"_ This, without even seeing me. I appealed that and got the same response a second time. I gave up. They can stick their PIP where the sun don't shine. How on earth can a proper assessment be done over the phone? The PIP system needs scrapping and redone properly.
My PIP assessor for my PIP review said she was going to turn camera off for 5 mins, just hold on, then I heard her taking the mick out of me with her husband so I didn't say anything as I was recording everything that was going on. so I went from enhanced rate to nothing because of this assessor, she already was going to fail me from the start but obviously I appealed it and send a copy of the evidence (the recording) to DWP via my solicitor, so not only did the appeal be successful very quickly with in a week, she also got fired and I got awarded compensation. So please record your assessments.
This reminds me of a time before being off sick waiting for my appointment someone clearly was upset with them and had raised voice but was obviously no threat just upset once he'd left they all were slgging him off behind his back thinking the waiting room was empty it wasn't and I heard later my assessor was on holiday once a month I was told to Hitchhike from a middle of a roundabout to get to my interview and cause I don't drive don't look for jobs involving mechanics yet I'm untrained in NASA 😂
@@cheezetoasty3573no you don't have to tell them, it's the same with the police have to tell you they are recording you, but the public do not need to tell them.
When you read the comments and watch the video , these are the reasons I will never engage with the DWP again. Even though I have severe life limiting heart condition that is very restrictive on my actions. My mental health is on the floor and dealing with them would undoubtedly push me off the edge. I won't give them the satisfaction even if that means I stay on the floor.
I had PIP come to my house for an ID check. I had already been receiving it for years and have a chronic illness. The lady was all smiles and friendly whilst at the same time asking trick questions. Im a genuine claimant but see how one or two answers given when I have brain fog could have led to them trying to cancel my payments. These people seem to be constantly trying to cut you off and never forget however nice they seem they not your friends. Ive worked and paid tax for 45 years before becoming ill and hate the way they make you feel and the stress adds to my illness.
My most recent assessment took place in my home, with my friend present who helped when I got confused. She could clearly see the chairs I have placed every 2-3 metres which I explained allow me to rest my legs on way to bed/bathroom/kitchen, and the electric wheelchair to enable me to leave my home. She asked me to stand, then sit back down. Her assessment? I showed no signs of anxiety, and I can walk up to 50 metres!
Me too! I'm partially paralysed from the neck down, but "apparently" I shouldn't have any problems getting out of the house or even running to catch a bus. It's just bizarre. I've been unable to get out of the house without a lot of help since 2016. It's over 10 years since I was last able to use public transport. One assessor took great delight in reducing me to tears at the thought of going beyond my own front door on my own. I do have a lot of faith in the tribunals, though. I don't know the details of the tribunal process, but the DWP seem well aware of how weak their case is. This is the second time that they've contacted me the day before tribunal and reinstated the claim.
they should not be doing this as they are not qualified doctors ,plus if you show them your medical history they will ignore it and push it aside , been there got the t-shirt.
@@fisherman5517 Yes. It's a bit odd that they can't consider the opinion of a fully qualified neurosurgeon that your spine is effed. I get it that there maybe Doctors out there with a sideline in falsifying medical information but I doubt that's very common. It doesn't seem plausible that an entire NHS team of radiographers and physiotherapists would also lie just for the fun of messing with the DWP. My most recent assessor also took into account that I hadn't had my walking sticks replaced since 2015 (?). Why? I don't think it's possible to break these things and they aren't going to wear out in my lifetime.
I'm really sorry to hear about your recent assessment experience. It sounds quite frustrating, especially when your daily challenges and the adjustments you've made to your home were clearly visible. Having a friend there to support you was a good idea, but it's disappointing that the assessment didn't fully acknowledge your situation. It's important to remember you can ask for a review or appeal if you feel the outcome wasn't fair. Your experience highlights how crucial it is for assessments to be thorough and considerate.
Thank you for breaking down everything into short, helpful video. I need to fill my pip form, im struggling, and the task is overwhelming and get anxiety even thinking about the assessment in person.
I have one coming up and I’m dreading it. I feel I will lose. One time they blocked my exits when I was having a severe panic attack. I do not feel comfortable with these people. They don’t care.
I put off filling my forms in for ages for the same reason. I put a brave face on for my interview as it was my only way of dealing with it; they used that against me in their decision. My advice would be don't try and hide your anxiety from them.
Always take your worst day. Do not answer questions yes or no , your condition is variable give them your worst case scenario, they work on tick box point system
i have my P.I.P tribunal hearing this month, they stopped it a year ago, they stopped it on the same grounds as in 2018, then i got reinstated just before it went to court, i have a number of congenital illnesses, but they couldn't care less
I'm really sorry to hear about the challenges you're facing with your P.I.P tribunal hearing. It sounds like a tough situation, especially since it's not the first time you've had to deal with it. It's important to have all your documents and medical evidence ready to present your case as strongly as possible. Remember, it's okay to seek support from friends, family, or professionals who can help guide you through this process. Stay strong, and I hope things turn out better for you this time.
The assessors are not there to give you a fair assessment, they are there to stop you getting PIP. I could dress this statement up in a more lengthy wordy description but that is what it boils down to!
@@ironclad57 Around over 70% of the time, the DWP get it wrong though, and not just once, but twice. I would argue that if everyone who claimed PIP went to tribunal, this 70% success-rate figure would be considerably higher. It's a massive waste of money too, the legal costs for medical representation far outweigh how much the award would be if the DWP assessor gave them the benefit at assessment.
pip awarded me two points on appeal for ME and Mental health problems… a week before my tribunal hearing they folded and gave me everything . For two years and a pay raise to boot. Always take it to the max.. once you show you going to fight these cowards run away…. 😅
@@wleon4068 to minimise the numbers of people claiming. The law states the benefit must be offered but they make the process difficult on purpose to encourage people to give up. A simple but cruel cost cutting excersise.
Rightfully yours? It's not rightfully yours at all. There's far too many claiming pip when they CAN work in some capacity.....it's because it's too easy to sit on the benefits system. If claiming benefits people should ne made to earn them. Community work etc. I know far too many people who refuse point blank to work with the excuse of.....why should I when the system gives me more money. It needs a radical change. Let's see how many genuine health cases there really is, nowhere near what's being claimed. People work from home nowadays so whats stopping someone in a wheelchair from doing an office job or answering phones? Absolutely nothing. Other benefits shouldn't be paid in cash either, they should be given stamps or tokens to use for food....not for smokes, alcohol, sky tv, mobile phones etc.....the basics to keep them going. Work and earn your way. Scrounging people deserve nothing more than basic. Why should I work my backside off so the benefit people can reap the rewards?
We should do this now. The DWP are going to do the Old Switcheroo.... Changing all the Rules again. Look how may times this has been done. PIP is going to be abolished, and some other twisted and inhumane scheme will be concocted 🤔
So this is is the world we live in; an assessment designed to help people with disabilities and/or conditions that impair their ability to function is filled with 'trick' questions, specifically designed for interviewers to put their own spin (from personal, potentially biased opinions) on 'justifications' for why they should NOT receive that help. Welcome to Tory Britain. I had a similar experience many years ago when I applied to continue with Incapacity Benefit for at least a couple of months more after being discharged from a psychiatric outpatient unit following a mental breakdown. Obviously I still wasn't ready to go straight back into full-time work again, fresh out of hospital, so they sent me to one of these interviews. It was a farce. The 'doctor' assessing me asked these same types of questions (did I have a pet, how much tv did I watch, etc.) without taking into consideration that I also had a partner living with me, so I wasn't living alone and doing all of this stuff entirely by myself. Then - for reasons that, to this day, I STILL don't understand - this 'doctor' asked me to lie down on the bed in the room so he could "examine my abdomen." Considering I was being assessed for MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, one of which was C-PTSD from SA TRAUMA - there was absolutely zero logical reason for him to do this. And, inevitably, when he pulled up my shirt and started prodding and massaging my belly, I got triggered and started to cry; it felt wrong and confusing, but I didn't feel like I could refuse the examination if I wanted to 'pass.' (I was also alone with him in the room - there was no chaperone, and I was given no indication that I could ask for one.) I ultimately 'failed' the interview, and the reasons given were to do with me being 'able to look after a cat' (as previously mentioned, I was living with my partner) and 'able to concentrate on watching tv.' The physical examination was not even mentioned, at all.
your belief in the political system is foolish, they all work for the same criminal syndicate so it is not like the Tories are any different to the others realise they all hate you and you are on the right track
I was depressed and cryed at mine telling how much brothers and partners were awful to me, at that time, and we hadn't spoke for a year. When I read what was put she said I had a full and active social life with friends and family. I gave up then. She left me to get of the examination table and I struggled to get down, she said I did it with ease. Worst part was my pain was so much worse later due to the assessment. My son was refused at 2,we'd had it after cardiology liason nurse told me he was entitled. When it was due for re application I was all over the place as he was due a spinal surgery that I was told had a high risk of severe disability. I told them to shove it where the sun don't shine. I had knew folk who were getting it easily, one for her teenagers dyslexia and we were genuine. My toddler was in a body plaster for 7 months and had to re learn how to walk, plus his heart failure even after open heart surgery due to having one lung.
My assessor actually tried to get me to agree that the medication I was on "cured" my condition, when I told them it helps manage it the condition, as it was clearly stated in the specialist notes, they refused to accept that answer and tried asking me in 2 other ways. I told them that if they can't understand the notes or my condition, to let me speak to someone with a better general understanding of what lifelong incurable means. Needles to say they refused my claim for "insufficient evidence "
I was asked to sign out at reception (while not been asked to sign 'in') just to test my claim of having severe arthritis in my hands (amongst other problems) I immediately recognised this request for what it was and confronted the assessor. She grunted and walked away, didn't even say goodbye. But regardless, the report was full of lies. I refuse to believe the assessors are incompetent, they are asked and paid to lie in their reports. Making the whole assessment pointless.
The one I learned was when asked 'how many times a week do you need assistance, ie get up out of bed by yourself, cook your food etc, don't say 2/3/4 days a week, as this will give them a reason to only give the lowest rate as it seems you can manage.
@@RimmaPatvakanianSay I need help 7 days ie, every day as most things don't change. If you couldn't cook for yourself on Monday, what's changed on Tuesday . For most people this is not a lie.
What is the point of claiming this? PIP is supposed to stand for Personal Independence Payment. Yet, when the mentally ill and physically ill try to be 'Independent'... THEY TAKE IT FROM THEM!! PIP is a contradiction in terms.
I understand why you're feeling upset about this. It does seem really confusing when PIP, which is meant to help people be more independent, ends up being hard to get for those who really need it. It's tough when it feels like the system doesn't support everyone equally. It's important to keep asking for the right help and to talk to people who can give advice and support.
I hear you! I was told, in my recent assessment that my Mobility had nothing do do with my actual ability to move; more of my State of Mind.This is even more silly, because I have PTSD on account of my fear of home invasion and other similar trauma. This is utter bollocks, my friends. We have several problems... DWP are understaffed and have so many cases that they are simply generalised by proccess of how carefully they are checked. This is notoriously neglected because nobody is looking closely. Bet the Inland Revenue do not skimp on doing that.
My dieing husband had to appeal for pip, we didn't know he was actually dieing at the time but gave the assessor all his symptoms etc etc etc, was unsuccessful with his claim so appealed...his 2nd interview was with a retired paramedic...again going through everything truthfully the way this person was looking at both of us...mainly my husband I don't think he could believe how he got turned down the 1st time. Within days the dreaded diagnosis of what was actually wrong with hubby came through...the appeal was one. The whole ordeal was so stressful for both of us...mainly my husband who has since passed.
A few years ago i went with my wife for her test when we got there the test was on the 1st floor as my wife had spinal cancer she could not climb stairs but the refuse to send down the lift until i threaten to sue
I have severe depression, i don’t go out, I’ve purposely cut my family off, I bathe, cook and sleep badly. None of those assessments are a reflection on how my mental health is. I shop online or my adult daughter gets me shopping. Trust me , the next assessment I have will quite possibly kill me if I have to leave the house. 😢
I'm really sorry to hear you're going through such a hard time with severe depression. It sounds very tough, especially when the assessments don't seem to understand how you're truly feeling or how your day-to-day life is affected. It's good that you have your daughter to help you with shopping.
I'm almost exactly the same, Susan, except my adult daughter is in London and I am in Newcastle, our home town. She rarely has time for me. I wonder if you have applied for ESA...that's available from Gov.Uk It's a veery interesting site 🤓
They even notice your eye contact, I was told I made good eye contact in my interview, Earning I was confident, I explained have to do eye contact as I am reading your lips due to being deaf, one of my assessors threw a screwed up piece of paper and told me to pick it up explained I would lose my balance and end up doing a forwards roll like a foot baller going down at old trafford,x
The legendary pip assessment, where they will ask you the SAME question about thirty times until you fall on your face, that question is :- A. can you walk 1-20 metres...So when they ask "can you make it to your doctors appointments ok ?."...if you unwittingly just say yes, even though it's a massive struggle to get there then you have fallen on your face and it's game over and you will get mentally tired of trying not to trip yourself up, that's why it's best to have someone with you...If you answered question A with no then I see no point asking can you get to an appointment ok as mentally you've already established you can't and it's out of the way but no...just no the pip os about to get it's teeth in and get that "yes" answer out of you...
I am waiting to have a face to face renewal. already I burst into tears at the thought. The assessor the last time was so confrontational that I broke down. It was a telephone consultation. My son was in another room. He came in to see what all of the fuss was about. Initially he thought I was overreacting. He answered the questions honestly and I was awarded my claim. This was the third claim. I asked my Consultant in hospital if I could go home, because I needed to pay the mortgage. He was astonished that I was fit for work. He intervened. Off course the claim was backed dated, with my hospital stays deducted. Like everyone else I was honest but how can I get zero points then on the third time get the maximum. I would trade PIP for my old job any day. That is not possible.
It sounds like you've had a really tough time with the renewal process, and it must have been really stressful to go through that, especially with how the last assessment went. I'm glad your son was there to support you and that you were finally awarded your claim. It must feel confusing and frustrating to get such different outcomes each time. It's clear how much you value honesty and how much you'd prefer to be working your old job if you could. It's important to keep sharing your experiences, as it helps highlight the need for a more understanding and fair assessment process for everyone. Thank you for opening up about your journey.
@@ukcareguide I didn’t expect a response, therefore thank you 🙏 My renewal has now started. However, I haven’t received the paperwork. Thankfully I have an extension. I am fearful. I think like others, we get on with things and play down situations. That’s why I have to have my son there for me. He is in The Royal Marines Commandos as a PTI Instructor. He has a compassionate draught to be relatively near me. That’s if not required to be anywhere worldwide.I have deteriorated and a frank conversation has to take place about that. My adult social funded care was withdrawn last year.I am paying for an hour attendance every week. I used to have two visits a day. I wonder how many out there say, “Oh I will manage”, when we know, we will be in distress while smiling. My son sees through me. As an Army Veteran and then an Army Camp Follower, veterans tend to be problem solvers, not problem creators. Some things can’t be solved without help. This process is one. I am terrified.
Great video yer I've filled a few of these forms in and there is always lots of ways to answer a question have to read the question 10 times o er I'm on PIP now been on it a few years
They go after the easy targets and continue to harass them year on year, yet can't be bothered to come down hard on those who fake it because it means they'd actually have to to some work to prove these people are fleecing the system. My wife is constantly being assessed, even though she is partially sighted, partially deaf, has neuropathy, has to walk with stick, type 1 diabetes, gastroporesis, and is on the transplant list. She can't use her care allowance to buy a white stick. It wasn't deemed essential, so had to pay the money back. We have recently just received the allowance to be able to have a Motability car, which came at the right time as we relied on a 17 year old car to get to appointments which failed its MOT and had to be scrapped, BUT we were refused a parking bay outside our house, even though a neighbour up the road has got one. We sometimes have to park down the hill and my wife struggles up to the house. It really is a f*cked up system, and don't get me started on Universal Credit!!! The people who assess you are NOT medically qualified to assess you. We've even provided detailed written note from the consultants and they dismissed them.
Ive got several health issues that entitle me to claim, but i dont because of the degradation people like me ard put through, as if you.re on trial because you have health issues that prevent you from doing daily tasks without pain or great difficulty. Worze for those who live alone and have no family to call on. They were quick enough to take our N.I and taxes from us though. Its not our fault that 50yrs of hard work has caused these issues either..yet "visitors" land here and get all the help they need without paying a penny into our system. Its sickening!
You can especially request this, give them plenty of notice. Then make arrangements for making your own recording as well. I compared the two and theirs had 15 minutes missing. Ran through it with a fine tooth comb and they HAD edited the recording. 3 of my answers had disappeared
Got my assessment soon and I'm quite anxious because I feel like they're gonna twist pretty much anything I say without telling me and just mention it on the letter without giving me a chance to refute anything at the actual assessment. I feel like I have to come up with counterarguments to every possible judgement they could make and remember to say all of those things at the assessment so they don't twist anything. Pretty exhausting 😅
I have had an organ transplant and struggle to manage ... lost my PIP and YES I was tricked where the reception area was just over the prescribed distance from the assessment room
My assesment was done on the phone by a nurse , she understood everything fast and clear , she done the report , no probs at all , but on a road accident with polly trauma and severely affected legs 😢😢😢 , they no need to doubt , and assume i,m getting better , which i only dream i can be , this people need a change of workers there , should be medical people doing this , not jst office job. , cos they not competent. 😢😢😢
They try to trip you up even when your a genuine claimant ,I had an operation on my arm and shoulder with 56 stitches in two days before my assessment they still ask me what I am capable of lifting !!
Very good video and brilliant explanations , i get PiP , now i had assessment again , answers are made to confuse u , my situation is worst anyway and suported by medical evidence , so so bad the system is like this , some people working there need to belong to medical profesion to understand body structure , diseases ... how conditions work , they always suppose u get better , they dont want to know about chronic disease , which means is worst and worst , not getting better , my condition need a medical pension cos i,m never able to walk far , not to work , the word polly trauma says everything 😢😢😢 , hard to deal with this system ,
My wife has MS, they did an assessment over the phone, which is ridiculous seeing as MS is both a physical and mental illness, they failed her because she could remember one hospital appointment she went to and that she can walk a certain distance, I wrote a sarcastic letter to them, but did get help in filling out the appeal forms, she eventually won, the system is designed to make you fail
I had a PIP assessment and failed it. On the report the assessor said she saw me getting dressed (through a brick wall ) walking down the road (never went out waiting in for her) later was denied PIPS sent all my military medical records(28 pages of notes they could have got from the Marines) to PIPS and was denied even though 27 military medical consultants said otherwise. so I replied that if I ever needed a brain operation I would ask the local road sweeper as he in their eyes is better qualified than all British military doctors and surgeons. A letter came back stating i should not be sarcastic so Pen pushers in PIPS know better that consultant surgeons they rely on in the NHS A week later a doctor from WAR Pensions (part of the DWP/PIPS visited me on my request) and i had a full medical and was deemed 70% war disabled and got a higher war pension than I had pre PIPs. I asked my first pips visit to be a doctor who knows military injuries and wounds denied. got a speech therapist who it seems had already done my report before even knocking on my door. she said "as I could read a map and visit a bank and walk using a stick or Zimmer frame I failed the mobility part
There seems to be no face to face assessments since Covid only telephone consultations how can anyone assess a persons physical abilities by telephone?
They asked me how I manage DD in my assessment in 2014 so I told them I just let the DD amount go out that they ask for. They said what if you build up a large credit to which I replied I just leave the credit and it was my daughter who would ask for any refund to be processed using my email address that she has the password for. They even asked me why I all my clothing including my coat didn't have any buttons and I said because I cannot do up any buttons even my trousers were just elasticated without buttons. I call the assessors whether it's for PIP or ESA assassins because they're there to deny the claim of anyone trying to claim the benefits.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It sounds like you've had to explain your situation in detail during your assessment in 2014, especially regarding managing direct debits and the practical adjustments you've made, like choosing clothes without buttons for ease. It's clear these experiences with assessors, whether for PIP or ESA, have been quite challenging for you. Your perspective on the process is important, and sharing it helps others understand the complexities involved in these assessments.
You can especially request this, give them plenty of notice. Then make arrangements for making your own recording as well. I compared the two and theirs had 15 minutes missing. Ran through it with a fine tooth comb and they HAD edited the recording. 3 of my answers had disappeared
I was told year to go to the get pip because of copd and other problems now I have a heart problem I see cardiologist 16 July but I see people who have pip get kicked off and stopped off pip
My daughter recently went through the same scenario. It was a telephone assessment for limited capability for the work element of UC. I obtained the assessment report. I went through it word for word, sentence by sentence. We took it to a tribunal, but it didn't get that far. It went in favour of my daughter stating that the initial assessment and mandatory reconsideration were wrong. She is just waiting for the back pay now
It sounds like your daughter's assessment didn't go fairly, especially if the report contains untrue information. It might be a good idea to challenge this by asking for a review of the decision. Collecting any evidence that can show the true situation can also help. Sometimes, getting advice from a group that knows about these assessments can make a big difference. They can guide you on what steps to take next.
I have MS and was on DLA high rate care and mobility for many years,then i had to transfer to PIP in 2019,i had an assessment at home and got a witch of an assessor,she was a nurse and was just awful,she tried tricking me and tied me in knots and when she did the report it was just full of lies,i lost my mobility car because i had my high mobility reduced to standard on PIP,so that meant i could hardly go out and had to rely on people for going out,due to her lies. I was too ill to appeal at the time.My PIP review this year was in January and i was ill just thinking about it,but i rang PIP up when my assessment date came it was a telephone assessment so i told them i wanted it recording by them,so the made another appt for me because not all assessors agree to being recorded,but we know why🤔so another appt date was arranged. On the day i got the nicest lady who explained everything that was going to happen,she was very fair,and listened to all i said,and i thought it had gone very well. It did go well i was awarded enhanced PIP for care and mobility for 10years🥳🥳I advise anyone having a telephone assessment to ring them and tell them you want THEM to record it, i am sure me doing this led to this very fair assessment i had,i think only the fair assessors agree to been recorded.
Should be via a doctor or consultant letter for vetting.paper work validates no cross examinations.like elabarote on how asthma copd affects you..yes they do find it odd one needs to breathe
I will definitely be refused I was too honest. Just because I can walk doesn't mean I struggled to get to that point of being able to function better. And yes very very painful days and then another dull weakness pain ..it's always there in every bone no matter what I do and some bloody horrible mornings and nights than others .The pain is horrendous and my doctor said I can't be on inflammatory long term cos of kidney damage but other than that I'm living off painkillers everyday so in the long term they will do harm anyway..along with that im.buying pain creams and supports.
@@Lin.J333 yes I got on the sick when I asked for a phone interview. If you go to a assessment it can automatically fail you, especially if you go by yourself, they are constantly watching you at these assessments to see if you are genuinely ill. When you fill out the UC sick form, don't give them anything at all. Say you are basically housebound and you can only manage to go out once a fortnight and that's for some fresh air and too pick up your prescription. I am in constant back pain and I have suffered this for a long time. I go to the toilet it causes me pain. I cook ready made meals as it's easier than cooking a real meal. If you say I can do this and to that you will always fail these assessments. Get your messages delivered, get your medication delivered. If you can't get something delivered get a friend to pick them up for you. During COVID they were not delivering meds and messages and I got my friend to help me out with that. If you can arrange something like that if you can't get meds and messages delivered that is good enough to get passed a lot of the hassle with the assessment. And I got told this by someone who worked in the jobcentre. Remember as soon as you say I can do this or that will always fail you on most occasions. That's how a lot of people fail these assessments and if they come out to visit you, don't bath yourself or clean your house as that shows them you are incapable of doing that. And have clothing with no buttons as if you can fasten a button you basically can work. I know it sounds ludicrous but it can fail you. Once you complete the home assessment you can wash yourself and clean your home. You can say you go for a shower every now and then. But please make sure you have safely handles and a shower chair to sit on. And see if you can get these for free if not buy some and use them for were you sit in the house. As that shows them you need something to get up with. They asked me if I can use walking sticks, I can sometimes and that's just to help me get up from my bed in the morning. If you can't get any help from friends or family try and get messages and meds delivered. Especially messages as your meds are not as heavy as messages. There are a few people on TH-cam that can help you a lot better than me.
@@Lin.J333 yes I got on the sick and TH-cam took down the reply I said about two mins ago. They will fall you if you say I can do this or that. As that shows them you are capable of doing stuff, basically you can hardly do anything at all. If they say they are coming for a home visit, don't wash yourself and clean your house. Make sure you smell and your house is smelly. And you can say I can manage a shower once in a while. And make sure you have safely handles to help you get into the shower. And a shower chair to sit on for when you are getting washed. and safety handles for getting up from were you sit in the living room. If you don't have a walking stick, get one and you can use that for getting up in the morning and moving around. Remember people you can hardly do anything. Get messages and mediation delivered. If they say do you go out, you can say if I am up to it and someone will help me I can go down to the back court for some fresh air and I have to sit on the chair for that. If they ask you for how long say it depends on how my whatever is wrong with you see depends on the pain. I can manage about five minutes and then I have to go back home. The UC medical assessment is designed for people who can do just about nothing. They think people who can do some stuff are fit to work. I worked in manual labour jobs and I was always in pain and I had to leave these jobs I tried calling centre job and I was in pain from sitting and getting up to ease my back pain and I had to leave that job. As when I got home my back would get much worse.
I find it very difficult when the assessors introduce any kind of hypothetical situation. The problem is that I have a very clear recollection of how things *should* be done, and how I *used to* do things myself. None of that has any bearing on my daily life *right now*. My most recent assessor asked a question about how I would move through 3 downstairs rooms from the front of the house, to the kitchen at the back of the house. No indication given of a plausible real life situation where I'd be attempting to do this, btw. I'm partially paralysed and plan every movement 3 steps at a time before even trying to stand. It's just bizarre that the assessors can gain any insight into a claimant's daily life by asking them questions that rely on imagining the answer.
It seems like you're finding it hard to deal with questions from assessors that don't match your current situation. It's understandable that being asked to think about things you used to do, or hypothetical situations, doesn't really help show what your daily life is like now. Especially since you need to carefully plan your movements due to partial paralysis. It does sound odd that assessors use these kinds of questions to understand your daily challenges. Maybe it would be helpful to explain to them exactly how you manage your day-to-day activities, so they get a clearer picture of your needs and abilities.
@@ukcareguide I've got my award now. So, eventually I did manage to get the point across. The point is that when you're chatting to someone with a fairly friendly manner it's hard to keep in mind that these people aren't your friends. Another difficulty is that my husband is my carer. We just get on with life, and don't always break down in words who does what and why. We might say "we did the laundry", for example. I think that's a normal way of speaking in couples. What's actually happening is that *he* did the laundry. I was just pointing at things that needed to be in a separate wash. So, it could be useful for claimants to think about their care needs as if they were asking for help from someone that they'd never met before.
I have a friend who has severe MS and can not stand without her crutches and when she does stand with her crutches she is completely unstable and wobbles / tremors, at her assessment she was asked to stand and put her hands behind her back, which she cannot do, they put in her report to the DWP that she stood without her crutches and put her hands behind her back, one of many lies in her report.
@@TDCCrafting exactly. Before I was finally diagnosed with a spinal injury, a couple of the physio's hinted at MS. I have tremors and wobble a lot. So, I guess my condition "looks" similar to your friend. If I stand in a doorway, holding on to the frame until my knuckles are white, I can sometimes lift one leg off the ground provided my muscles are warmed up enough. At my very first assessment, the assessor wrote that I could stand on one leg without any difficulty! No mention of the three points of contact that are necessary for safety. She wrote her report as if I was juggling while riding a unicycle. If I'm in a gym surrounded with crash mats, I can sort of walk for a few yards without sticks if I hold my arms up and out (like a kid pretending to be an airplane). None of that is helpful for daily life because your hands aren't free to do anything with. It's not just my safety, either. I probably should use crutches but I'm terrified of getting tangled in them and injuring my wrists. My worst nightmare would be to injure someone else. That almost happened when I was using sticks, trying to get into a swimming pool. A toddler ran up to me and wrapped their arm around my knees. My husband was trying to stop all three of us falling.
After 3 months of waiting, Pip finally got back to me and said iv got an assessment next month. Now one of the reasons I'm applying for pip is because I'm deaf, everything so far has been via text and letter. But the assessment they've organised is over the phone. Is this some sort of trick to see if I'm faking? Or are they just stupid. I even specifically said on my forms that I can't speak over the phone.
I’ve just sent my forms off I’m completely deaf in 1 ear and lost a bit in the other. I just wonder how successful a pip claim is for being deaf. Please let me know how you get on
@@nigelstevens6218 the assessment itself was over the phone, it tried emailing pip and the company to who do the assessments to ask to change it, but they both ignored me. The assessment itself was fine, lasted about 90 minutes, I had an English lady who was very nice and patient with my hearing. She sent of her report the very next morning, but it takes 8 weeks for Pip to make a decision, so I'll likely be waiting a while to find out.
@@nigelstevens6218terrible. Diagnosed Tinnitus and partial deafness was just one of 6 or 7 problems I have that effect my life and am applying for Pip for. After 6 months of waiting, I got my decision letter today and scored 0 on everything. Theres a covering letter attached full of blatant lies about me. In regards to the hearing, they claim I can hear fine in both ears, and that I only experience tinnitus occasionally. Absolute rubbish. They lied about literally everything else too. Iv wrote 10 pages to them today outlining all their lies, and demanded a rereview. If that fails I'll escalate it to the courts. I can't believe how they can get away with this.
My assessment by my assessor was a pack of lies. From beginning to end. I'm looking at ways to sue her for causing me unnecessary hardship and financial loss.
Do as I did I asked the pip assessment interview her qualifications mine replied a ex NHS nurse. So I asked her how on earth could she know more about my health condition than my own NHS specialist and doctor. She replied in tears that I had confronted her inappropriately A short time later she stoped crying and stated to check my bank balance in near future as belived I had enough points to be awarded Pip. 2 weeks later I received 2 payments totaling £2800 back dated Pip payments.
I am worried about the latest announcement regarding PIP and mental illnesses made by Sunak last week. While I think he does have a point that some people abuse the system, it is very worrying for people with mental illnesses. I have Bipolar disorder and physical problems and I am afraid I will lose my benefits.
i have never worked didnt finish school been sectioned 3 times in icu for suicide attempts diagnosed as young teen eupd autism adhd and i got mine first time for years no tribunal's or mr they have your records and if your trying to hard to score on every single task they wont buy it. my assessment went as follows i had my grandad speak witv me i was getting frustrated with her saying dont know alot and i scored on budgeting transport banthing and socializing and travel only 12 points and 12 on mobility . the assecor will fill the blanks if she sees a record thats legit and my question's and answers was not as i stated she changed them for the good thoufh not the bad so im sorry but if you are a cabbage or crippled then u score max on one task and thats enough but with mental you have to score low on afew and all the anxiety and depression cases are made to be hard to get by default by them because its the most common and fool proof so to speak conditon . trust me i have all the records and im diagnosed but i still worry i will be removed and ive never had no mr in 8 years nearly first time every time so its fair in my eyes.
I was marked down because I had a shower and brushed my hair before going to my assessment appointment I had enough money to get a taxi to the appointment but couldn't afford the taxi home so had to get home by bus, luckily the bus stop was directly opposite the assessment centre, I had to change busses in order to get as close to home as possible and reduce the amount of walking I went all the way to a tribunal and the panel took one look at me asked a couple of questions and I went from 0 points Mobility to 8 points Mobility in the time period between the assessment and the tribunal I had applied for had an assessment for and been awarded a blue badge due to my limited mobility
@@chrisoconnor8392 No at the time of that assessment I didn't have a blue badge and I couldn't always get on public transport but if I could I did, fast forward 10 years and my conditions have progressed in a horrendously and extremely painfully, now I only go to medical appointments because that's all I am able to manage, I have been through many applications/renewals over the years, and if I could choose I would be healthy and not need anything from anyone, but unfortunately that's not the way it's working out ❣️
@@shel7228 I have fibromyalgia arthritis in ankles knees hips lower spine shoulders and neck, Raynaud's Hypermobility, I have really bad mobility now and can't walk without the crutches but at the time of that assessment I had just worsened and was just starting to need the crutches I had one of my calf muscles go in to a major cramp/spasm and when I tried to walk through it, the pain in my calf was so intense and I thought that I had torn the muscle completely, but you don't have to be on a disability benefit to be eligible for a blue badge. Infact now they can award a blue badge if you have a hidden disability. So if you have problems which you think a blue badge would help with then apply for one.
I applied for pip due to having back problems due to heavy work. I was refused. I've come across many who get it and have told me I just need to tell lies and I'm afraid I can't do that.
I got PIP and never lied once , didn’t need too. . You have to fight for it , if you get turned down appeal the decision. Don’t just give up and go away that’s what they want ‼️
Can anyone please tell me their thoughts as I have not seen any mention yet - if someone lives alone and has a condition (involving extreme fatigue and poor eyesight and balance) that prevents them from moving a LOT of cluttered boxes and inherited items in very small place that have accumulated over the years, such that they cannot now navigate over them access the kitchen, and bathroom - is this relevant, or helpful, or perhaps even hindering, to mention in a PIP claim ? Or perhaps is it only appropriate for a Social Care Needs Assessment Form ? Of course on a PIP form I can still mention their assistance needs when they visit to use my kitchen or bathroom.
In my opinion they would say that’s not a permanent condition and that you could get someone to remove the boxes so I wouldn’t mention that as they will say it’s a self inflicted condition which could be avoided.
That's actually true ,my neighbour applied for pip when he was 64 to prove to me that he will get it no problem. There is nothing wrong with him at all . He is a big bullshitter! He is on no medication, he said ( phone assessment) since he got his COVID vaccine....he is sick , can't do this bla bla blaaaaa ...he got enhanced for both. Review in 10 years !!!!!
Ive been refused pip, i did fill in the form wrong , my condition got worse after i filled in the form on line , i did appeal the refusal i need help how i get this solved
It sounds like you're having a tough time with your PIP application, especially since your condition got worse after you filled in the form. Appealing the refusal was a good step. For help with your appeal, it might be useful to contact a local advice service or a charity that supports people with your condition.
Seriously if you are suffering any mental problems.Dont even try fight it unless you have real help..I was unlucky.If well people can lie & get everything so easy.The real I'll ones are getting dropped .Should be law against bullying vulnerable people😔
I'm so sorry to bother you, I applied for pip in march had my phone call 2nd may, had a txt on 3rd may saying my assessment is with the assessor and then a txt on the 20th saying the still haven't made a decision, so I requested my assessment letter and at the back page it says based on the claimant's likely future circumstances it would be appropriate to review the claim in 2 years what does that mean please? Thank you x
Answer truthful they have doctors letter hospitals letters. Their friendly matter don't be deceived Just answer: Do not engage in their tactics Stick to facts They are crafty, but they cannot argue with written hospital letters from a consultant stating your conditions End of
i have never worked didnt finish school been sectioned 3 times in icu for suicide attempts diagnosed as young teen eupd autism adhd and i got mine first time for years no tribunal's or mr they have your records and if your trying to hard to score on every single task they wont buy it. my assessment went as follows i had my grandad speak witv me i was getting frustrated with her saying dont know alot and i scored on budgeting transport banthing and socializing and travel only 12 points and 12 on mobility . the assecor will fill the blanks if she sees a record thats legit and my question's and answers was not as i stated she changed them for the good thoufh not the bad so im sorry but if you are a cabbage or crippled then u score max on one task and thats enough but with mental you have to score low on afew and all the anxiety and depression cases are made to be hard to get by default by them because its the most common and fool proof so to speak conditon . trust me i have all the records and im diagnosed but i still worry i will be removed and ive never had no mr in 8 years nearly first time every time so its fair in my eyes.
I was just honest and thought i wouldn't get help .after seeing vids i was thinking no chance. I had one assesor call with two listening in. Took 8 weeks start claim to payment i guess just be honest 🤷
Please people take someone with you. Let them speak for you. Don’t fall for the BS don’t shake hands, don’t make eye contact. Let the person who takes you speak for you. The less you speak the better your chance of passing an assessment.
My dad had been signed off for life as he was told he had 3 months left to live due to mouth cancer, they were forced to treat him because he was still alive 4 months later. Then benefits brought him in for an interview and said he was fit to work because he could walk along a corridor. Benefits were taken off him. He bled to death 12 weeks later as a tumour to his heart pierced through a heart valve. ❤️ monsters ruin his last months and my mums and our last bit of time with him. He was dying at the interview, we should have claimed compensation but grief takes over.
😢 that is so sad, & disgusting the cruel way he was treated 😔 so sorry for your loss
@janettinkler2204 ❤️thankyou for your kind reply
Oh Hunny how awful 🤗 rest assured Your beloved will have Justice soon . I Am sending prayers for Your healing and someday forgiveness for this atrocity 🤗🕊
@chrisshepherd5502 thankyou, that would be lovely of you 😊 ❤️
Absolutely shocking,I'm very sorry 😢
It’s amazing how friendly these PIP assessors are at face-to-face meetings. It’s not until you read the reasons for your application being turned down that you fully see (but not appreciate) their levels of deception. One has to play them at their own game.
This is a simple but very useful video, thanks and well done to the author.
100% true. One was so nice to me then took it away from me.
Simple - they are out and out bastards. The more they remove, the more they meet their targets, and the more tax payer bonus they get. Privatization is about profit not caring or helping folk. Don't forget most of us were already entitled to pip, and dla before that, were already in receipt of these allowance. It's about removing help and punishing disabled folk to cure their un curable disabilities. What a despicable country this has become, and what disgusting profiteers those have become who do the bidding of this and past governments.
No scrutiny when it come so politicians expenses and bonuses. Just saying.
I am a recently retired nurse, and I wouldn't trust them either.
Then they stab you in the back with their report
@@alanhall1219 They did that with me. The bent court system was no better.
NEVER say that you have "good & bad days", they will concentrate on the "good" bit & refuse payment. My late Wife had this problem, although she was diagnosed with terminal cancer & given a few months to live, according to the "lovely people" who interviewed her, she was "getting better" !! With the help of a local hospice, we appealed & eventually won, but at that time, we could have done without the aggro & injustice !!
I'm truly sorry to hear about the tough experience you and your late wife went through. It's really unfair when the focus is not on the full reality of someone's health situation. It's great that the local hospice could support you in appealing and that you eventually won, but it's clear that the stress was something you shouldn't have had to deal with, especially during such a difficult time. Thank you for sharing your story; it's an important reminder for others to be mindful of how they describe their situation. Your strength and determination to fight for what was right are admirable.
@@ukcareguide Thank you.
You should affirm that all the days are bad but some may very slightly better than others. Remember they are there not to help you get a payment to help with your health condition but to get the fee for a successful kickoff but the interrogator and the organisation that pays the interrogators and save government money for the hotels and benefits of foreign illegals who the many dodgy politicians in government and civil servants groom as gay call boys and soften the law to legalise paedophilia.
That is appalling. Some conditions should just be a straight yes. How awful at a time when you both just needed peace.
I'm so sorry for your loss and this awful experience ❤
I arrived at an appointment with my dad and my husband to be told that they were running behind so there would be a bit of a wait. At the time I was horribly agoraphobic but had been told that if I didn’t attend the appointment I’d lose the benefit. I sat between dad and hubby for a good 30 minutes squeezing their hands so tightly that I was hurting them, nauseous and hyperventilating, using every last ounce of strength I had not to fly out of that building to the safety of the car. When I read the report that came with the refusal letter it stated that they’d left me in the waiting room ON PURPOSE - ie there was no delay - to see if I could cope, and because I was still there at the end of their ‘trial period’ I was clearly fit for work. I also discovered that the person interviewing me regarding my mental health was a physiotherapist. I am so glad to be out of that system and my sympathies lie with everybody having to jump through their unattainable hoops.
Christina, how horrible for you! I hope you're alright 🐣
I'm really sorry to hear about what you went through. It sounds like it was a very tough time for you, especially having to wait when you felt so uncomfortable and scared. It's not fair that you were put in such a difficult situation, especially when you were there to get help. It's also surprising to hear that the person you spoke to wasn't specialised in mental health. I'm glad to hear you're in a better place now, but it's sad to think others are still facing hard times with these processes. Thank you for sharing your story; it's important for others to know they're not alone in these experiences. If you ever want to talk more about it or share anything else, we're here to listen.
@@RachaelMorgan-om4xw Thank you, Rachael. I’m in a much better place now but at the time it was awful and humiliating and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
@@christinaneeparker I've helped a few people with claims and I always tell them to get a letter from their GP stating that they will require a home visit for their assessment. This is most important if you have difficulty leaving your home for any reason. Type up your own letter and tell your GP that this is the type of letter you require. As an example, if you suffer from IBS and are prescribed medication for this condition then you can say that you need to be close to a toilet for most of the time. It doesn't matter if this is not always the case or you don't always need the medication. The fact is that you have been diagnosed with and suffer from this highly unpredictable condition and so your GP should have no problem stating this in a letter for you. I remember an assessor once saying that because a home visit had been requested via a letter from the GP then it was a "no brainer" for him. The assessor was a really nice Sikh guy.
Christina, I hope you are requesting a review. Honestly, your attendance at the office was their first trick, and I can see that you were bullied into going. It was very brave of you. Next time dig your heels in, insist that your whole life is terrifying outside the safety of your own home. Explain how traumtised you were by the deeply cruel way you were treated, and that you feel it has made you even worse. They will have to acknowledge this. Be cool, you will win! Good luck 🥰
💜 I am tearful just reliving my experiences in the 2 hour exhausting assessment even though the assessor was nice and patient. Wish everyone strength and the positive support they deserve
If you are not happy with the outcome of your PIP assessment take it to Tribunal, I waited over a year for mine and yes , it was stressful and at times I thought ‘ Oh lord , why did I do this ❓’ … however I was awarded Enhanced Daily living and enhanced mobility just by the judge looking at my papers , I didn’t even have to turn up in the end . Such a relief , if you are genuine and KNOW you are entitled to an award fight for it , it’s hard but so worth it .
youll go through it all again when you get re assessed and failed sorry
Take it all the way to a tribunal , at mine the DWP doctor asked me if I could pick up an empty cardboard box , I stood up with my walking stick in one hand and told him health and safety clearly states to use both hands to lift along with bent knees , the tribunal judge awarded me PIP backdated to the previous year
The bent kangaroo court I had to face went even further than reducing points, they took the lot. Didn't even consider any medical support, and spoke to me like something they'd just trodden on. I had to re apply, and that was a task in it's self.
Now it's time to face all the lies again.
lucky person .
I use a electronic wheelchair I had a pip tribunal they wouldn't give me anything extra
Awesome!
I'm glad to hear that you stood up for yourself and explained how to lift things safely, even something as light as an empty cardboard box. It's really good news that the judge understood your situation and decided in your favour, giving you back your PIP from the previous year. It must have been a tough process to go through, but it sounds like you did a great job explaining your point. Thank you for sharing your experience; it might help others who are in a similar situation and are thinking about going to a tribunal. If you have any more advice or stories, feel free to share them.
I applied for PIP 3 years ago as I have a bad back injury and also suffer from breathlessness. I am 67. There are days when I struggle to walk up my garden path, about 10 metres. I was turned down on the grounds that, and I quote "We believe you can *easily* walk 500 metres. You can also make a sandwich. You have no problems with communication" and a few other reasons why they turned down my claim. I appealed and got the same response. *THIS WAS WITHOUT THEM EVEN SEEING ME* . They would not give me a face to face interview. I won't be called a liar - which is what they did. I gave up with them. It seems to me that the PIP questions are aimed at people with dementia or senility, neither of which I have. Frankly, these people disgust me and I feel for anyone who's been humiliated by this cruel and unjust system.
The PIP goons count on people giving up on their claims so THEY win & not you. Go to Tribunal, i understand that's the only way to beat the first hurdle, especially for first time claimants.
I was refused because they said I could walk 200 metres without any aid. I told the interviewer I get breathless walking upstairs. These questions seem to be out of the Tory Bible. Vote Reform.
@@stevendavies6209 I am voting Reform and have been helping them. I can't go leafleting but have been helping in other ways. Spread the word *VOTE REFORM* .
I was refused because I could answer the phone , I had no choice but to answer the phone to them . If I hadn’t I would have been refused , which I was anyway. The report I received was full of lies, how these people sleep at night is mind boggling. They cannot assess a person over the phone !
@@Catmad65 I applied a couple of years ago as I have breathing difficulties and a back injury. There are days I can barely walk 20ft up my garden path. It was a telephone interview. I was turned down because I could make a sandwich!!! When they sent the letter stating why I'd been turned down, they also said, and I quote _"You can easily walk 500 metres"_ This, without even seeing me. I appealed that and got the same response a second time. I gave up. They can stick their PIP where the sun don't shine. How on earth can a proper assessment be done over the phone? The PIP system needs scrapping and redone properly.
My PIP assessor for my PIP review said she was going to turn camera off for 5 mins, just hold on, then I heard her taking the mick out of me with her husband so I didn't say anything as I was recording everything that was going on. so I went from enhanced rate to nothing because of this assessor, she already was going to fail me from the start but obviously I appealed it and send a copy of the evidence (the recording) to DWP via my solicitor, so not only did the appeal be successful very quickly with in a week, she also got fired and I got awarded compensation. So please record your assessments.
I thought you had to tell them you were recording them or any complaint is void?
This reminds me of a time before being off sick waiting for my appointment someone clearly was upset with them and had raised voice but was obviously no threat just upset once he'd left they all were slgging him off behind his back thinking the waiting room was empty it wasn't and I heard later my assessor was on holiday once a month I was told to Hitchhike from a middle of a roundabout to get to my interview and cause I don't drive don't look for jobs involving mechanics yet I'm untrained in NASA 😂
Well done ✅
@@cheezetoasty3573no you don't have to tell them, it's the same with the police have to tell you they are recording you, but the public do not need to tell them.
Disgusting
When you read the comments and watch the video , these are the reasons I will never engage with the DWP again. Even though I have severe life limiting heart condition that is very restrictive on my actions. My mental health is on the floor and dealing with them would undoubtedly push me off the edge. I won't give them the satisfaction even if that means I stay on the floor.
I’m in the uk 🇬🇧 never had Steve over here is he on TH-cam,
I need a Steve every now & then …thank you
I had PIP come to my house for an ID check. I had already been receiving it for years and have a chronic illness. The lady was all smiles and friendly whilst at the same time asking trick questions. Im a genuine claimant but see how one or two answers given when I have brain fog could have led to them trying to cancel my payments. These people seem to be constantly trying to cut you off and never forget however nice they seem they not your friends. Ive worked and paid tax for 45 years before becoming ill and hate the way they make you feel and the stress adds to my illness.
My most recent assessment took place in my home, with my friend present who helped when I got confused. She could clearly see the chairs I have placed every 2-3 metres which I explained allow me to rest my legs on way to bed/bathroom/kitchen, and the electric wheelchair to enable me to leave my home. She asked me to stand, then sit back down. Her assessment? I showed no signs of anxiety, and I can walk up to 50 metres!
Me too! I'm partially paralysed from the neck down, but "apparently" I shouldn't have any problems getting out of the house or even running to catch a bus. It's just bizarre. I've been unable to get out of the house without a lot of help since 2016. It's over 10 years since I was last able to use public transport. One assessor took great delight in reducing me to tears at the thought of going beyond my own front door on my own. I do have a lot of faith in the tribunals, though. I don't know the details of the tribunal process, but the DWP seem well aware of how weak their case is. This is the second time that they've contacted me the day before tribunal and reinstated the claim.
they should not be doing this as they are not qualified doctors ,plus if you show them your medical history they will ignore it and push it aside , been there got the t-shirt.
@@fisherman5517 Yes. It's a bit odd that they can't consider the opinion of a fully qualified neurosurgeon that your spine is effed. I get it that there maybe Doctors out there with a sideline in falsifying medical information but I doubt that's very common. It doesn't seem plausible that an entire NHS team of radiographers and physiotherapists would also lie just for the fun of messing with the DWP. My most recent assessor also took into account that I hadn't had my walking sticks replaced since 2015 (?). Why? I don't think it's possible to break these things and they aren't going to wear out in my lifetime.
Ach! Man, I have had a similar thing. It is just the way they do it. But now there's a massive backlash heading for the DWP...... so do not give up !
I'm really sorry to hear about your recent assessment experience. It sounds quite frustrating, especially when your daily challenges and the adjustments you've made to your home were clearly visible. Having a friend there to support you was a good idea, but it's disappointing that the assessment didn't fully acknowledge your situation. It's important to remember you can ask for a review or appeal if you feel the outcome wasn't fair. Your experience highlights how crucial it is for assessments to be thorough and considerate.
Thank you for breaking down everything into short, helpful video. I need to fill my pip form, im struggling, and the task is overwhelming and get anxiety even thinking about the assessment in person.
I have one coming up and I’m dreading it. I feel I will lose. One time they blocked my exits when I was having a severe panic attack. I do not feel comfortable with these people. They don’t care.
I pray it goes well for you. May God bless you with ease and success this time. Remember, there is ease after every difficulty.
I put off filling my forms in for ages for the same reason. I put a brave face on for my interview as it was my only way of dealing with it; they used that against me in their decision. My advice would be don't try and hide your anxiety from them.
Always take your worst day. Do not answer questions yes or no , your condition is variable give them your worst case scenario, they work on tick box point system
Get help from Citizens advice.
i have my P.I.P tribunal hearing this month, they stopped it a year ago, they stopped it on the same grounds as in 2018, then i got reinstated just before it went to court, i have a number of congenital illnesses, but they couldn't care less
I'm really sorry to hear about the challenges you're facing with your P.I.P tribunal hearing. It sounds like a tough situation, especially since it's not the first time you've had to deal with it. It's important to have all your documents and medical evidence ready to present your case as strongly as possible. Remember, it's okay to seek support from friends, family, or professionals who can help guide you through this process. Stay strong, and I hope things turn out better for you this time.
Have you had it yet? Be sure to record everything
The assessors are not there to give you a fair assessment, they are there to stop you getting PIP. I could dress this statement up in a more lengthy wordy description but that is what it boils down to!
They are there to stop people claiming benefits they are not entitled too.
They stopped mine and I'm entitled to it, hence my appeal @@ironclad57
Hey, i’m a pip assessor myself, i can assure you thats not the case.
@@JohnSmith-x7l...and you expect us to believe that ...more fool you..
@@ironclad57 Around over 70% of the time, the DWP get it wrong though, and not just once, but twice. I would argue that if everyone who claimed PIP went to tribunal, this 70% success-rate figure would be considerably higher. It's a massive waste of money too, the legal costs for medical representation far outweigh how much the award would be if the DWP assessor gave them the benefit at assessment.
pip awarded me two points on appeal for ME and Mental health problems… a week before my tribunal hearing they folded and gave me everything . For two years and a pay raise to boot. Always take it to the max.. once you show you going to fight these cowards run away…. 😅
course the assessors aim is to prevent you from claiming PIP, not let you claim what is rightfully yours....
Then why devise the 'benefit' in the first place? If. all they want to do is stop people claiming it?
@@wleon4068 to minimise the numbers of people claiming. The law states the benefit must be offered but they make the process difficult on purpose to encourage people to give up. A simple but cruel cost cutting excersise.
You have to earn or inherit something that is "rightfully yours".
Rightfully yours? It's not rightfully yours at all. There's far too many claiming pip when they CAN work in some capacity.....it's because it's too easy to sit on the benefits system. If claiming benefits people should ne made to earn them. Community work etc. I know far too many people who refuse point blank to work with the excuse of.....why should I when the system gives me more money. It needs a radical change. Let's see how many genuine health cases there really is, nowhere near what's being claimed. People work from home nowadays so whats stopping someone in a wheelchair from doing an office job or answering phones? Absolutely nothing. Other benefits shouldn't be paid in cash either, they should be given stamps or tokens to use for food....not for smokes, alcohol, sky tv, mobile phones etc.....the basics to keep them going. Work and earn your way. Scrounging people deserve nothing more than basic. Why should I work my backside off so the benefit people can reap the rewards?
They are a separate company from dwp paid by them to effectively save dwp money by failing as many people as possible
FKIN pure GOLD, only in video format ❤
Thank you. Im glad you found the video helpful.
This should be on mainstream media now
We should do this now. The DWP are going to do the Old Switcheroo.... Changing all the Rules again. Look how may times this has been done. PIP is going to be abolished, and some other twisted and inhumane scheme will be concocted 🤔
So this is is the world we live in; an assessment designed to help people with disabilities and/or conditions that impair their ability to function is filled with 'trick' questions, specifically designed for interviewers to put their own spin (from personal, potentially biased opinions) on 'justifications' for why they should NOT receive that help.
Welcome to Tory Britain.
I had a similar experience many years ago when I applied to continue with Incapacity Benefit for at least a couple of months more after being discharged from a psychiatric outpatient unit following a mental breakdown. Obviously I still wasn't ready to go straight back into full-time work again, fresh out of hospital, so they sent me to one of these interviews. It was a farce. The 'doctor' assessing me asked these same types of questions (did I have a pet, how much tv did I watch, etc.) without taking into consideration that I also had a partner living with me, so I wasn't living alone and doing all of this stuff entirely by myself. Then - for reasons that, to this day, I STILL don't understand - this 'doctor' asked me to lie down on the bed in the room so he could "examine my abdomen." Considering I was being assessed for MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, one of which was C-PTSD from SA TRAUMA - there was absolutely zero logical reason for him to do this. And, inevitably, when he pulled up my shirt and started prodding and massaging my belly, I got triggered and started to cry; it felt wrong and confusing, but I didn't feel like I could refuse the examination if I wanted to 'pass.' (I was also alone with him in the room - there was no chaperone, and I was given no indication that I could ask for one.) I ultimately 'failed' the interview, and the reasons given were to do with me being 'able to look after a cat' (as previously mentioned, I was living with my partner) and 'able to concentrate on watching tv.' The physical examination was not even mentioned, at all.
your belief in the political system is foolish, they all work for the same criminal syndicate so it is not like the Tories are any different to the others realise they all hate you and you are on the right track
Sounds like you were allocated a pervert
@@MultiShampain I agree with you, politics have nothing to do with the PIP system.
Would politicians. If they were disabled in any way, agree to be put through this torture? I think not.
Tories 😂 how you enjoying labour??
I was depressed and cryed at mine telling how much brothers and partners were awful to me, at that time, and we hadn't spoke for a year. When I read what was put she said I had a full and active social life with friends and family. I gave up then. She left me to get of the examination table and I struggled to get down, she said I did it with ease. Worst part was my pain was so much worse later due to the assessment. My son was refused at 2,we'd had it after cardiology liason nurse told me he was entitled. When it was due for re application I was all over the place as he was due a spinal surgery that I was told had a high risk of severe disability. I told them to shove it where the sun don't shine. I had knew folk who were getting it easily, one for her teenagers dyslexia and we were genuine. My toddler was in a body plaster for 7 months and had to re learn how to walk, plus his heart failure even after open heart surgery due to having one lung.
My assessor actually tried to get me to agree that the medication I was on "cured" my condition, when I told them it helps manage it the condition, as it was clearly stated in the specialist notes, they refused to accept that answer and tried asking me in 2 other ways. I told them that if they can't understand the notes or my condition, to let me speak to someone with a better general understanding of what lifelong incurable means. Needles to say they refused my claim for "insufficient evidence "
I was asked to sign out at reception (while not been asked to sign 'in') just to test my claim of having severe arthritis in my hands (amongst other problems) I immediately recognised this request for what it was and confronted the assessor. She grunted and walked away, didn't even say goodbye. But regardless, the report was full of lies. I refuse to believe the assessors are incompetent, they are asked and paid to lie in their reports. Making the whole assessment pointless.
one assessment said they saw somebody walk 50m he was in a wheel chair luckerly it was recorded on cctv
Really useful video, thank you
The one I learned was when asked 'how many times a week do you need assistance, ie get up out of bed by yourself, cook your food etc, don't say 2/3/4 days a week, as this will give them a reason to only give the lowest rate as it seems you can manage.
Can you explain what to say?
@@RimmaPatvakanianSay I need help 7 days ie, every day as most things don't change. If you couldn't cook for yourself on Monday, what's changed on Tuesday . For most people this is not a lie.
What is the point of claiming this? PIP is supposed to stand for Personal Independence Payment. Yet, when the mentally ill and physically ill try to be 'Independent'... THEY TAKE IT FROM THEM!! PIP is a contradiction in terms.
I understand why you're feeling upset about this. It does seem really confusing when PIP, which is meant to help people be more independent, ends up being hard to get for those who really need it. It's tough when it feels like the system doesn't support everyone equally. It's important to keep asking for the right help and to talk to people who can give advice and support.
I hear you! I was told, in my recent assessment that my Mobility had nothing do do with my actual ability to move; more of my State of Mind.This is even more silly, because I have PTSD on account of my fear of home invasion and other similar trauma. This is utter bollocks, my friends. We have several problems... DWP are understaffed and have so many cases that they are simply generalised by proccess of how carefully they are checked. This is notoriously neglected because nobody is looking closely. Bet the Inland Revenue do not skimp on doing that.
@@RachaelMorgan-om4xw The inland revenue can F***k O**
Great video easy to understand 👏🏻👏🏻
Thank you for your nice comment. Im glad you found the video helpful.
My dieing husband had to appeal for pip, we didn't know he was actually dieing at the time but gave the assessor all his symptoms etc etc etc, was unsuccessful with his claim so appealed...his 2nd interview was with a retired paramedic...again going through everything truthfully the way this person was looking at both of us...mainly my husband I don't think he could believe how he got turned down the 1st time. Within days the dreaded diagnosis of what was actually wrong with hubby came through...the appeal was one. The whole ordeal was so stressful for both of us...mainly my husband who has since passed.
A few years ago i went with my wife for her test when we got there the test was on the 1st floor as my wife had spinal cancer she could not climb stairs but the refuse to send down the lift until i threaten to sue
That old chestnut. Yes I had the 'lift test' at the job centre 😆 honestly, they think people are stupid
I have severe depression, i don’t go out, I’ve purposely cut my family off, I bathe, cook and sleep badly. None of those assessments are a reflection on how my mental health is. I shop online or my adult daughter gets me shopping. Trust me , the next assessment I have will quite possibly kill me if I have to leave the house. 😢
I'm really sorry to hear you're going through such a hard time with severe depression. It sounds very tough, especially when the assessments don't seem to understand how you're truly feeling or how your day-to-day life is affected. It's good that you have your daughter to help you with shopping.
@@ukcareguide thank you for your kind reply. X
Susan, I completely empathise
Don’t go to the assessment!! Wetting for them!! After they refuse your claim bring them to court!! You will win the case!! Good luck ❤
I'm almost exactly the same, Susan, except my adult daughter is in London and I am in Newcastle, our home town. She rarely has time for me. I wonder if you have applied for ESA...that's available from Gov.Uk It's a veery interesting site 🤓
They even notice your eye contact, I was told I made good eye contact in my interview, Earning I was confident, I explained have to do eye contact as I am reading your lips due to being deaf, one of my assessors threw a screwed up piece of paper and told me to pick it up explained I would lose my balance and end up doing a forwards roll like a foot baller going down at old trafford,x
thank you for giving us such important advice. Appreciated 💯👏👏👏
The legendary pip assessment, where they will ask you the SAME question about thirty times until you fall on your face, that question is :- A. can you walk 1-20 metres...So when they ask "can you make it to your doctors appointments ok ?."...if you unwittingly just say yes, even though it's a massive struggle to get there then you have fallen on your face and it's game over and you will get mentally tired of trying not to trip yourself up, that's why it's best to have someone with you...If you answered question A with no then I see no point asking can you get to an appointment ok as mentally you've already established you can't and it's out of the way but no...just no the pip os about to get it's teeth in and get that "yes" answer out of you...
It was very informative and helpful. Thanks
I am waiting to have a face to face renewal. already I burst into tears at the thought. The assessor the last time was so confrontational that I broke down. It was a telephone consultation. My son was in another room. He came in to see what all of the fuss was about. Initially he thought I was overreacting. He answered the questions honestly and I was awarded my claim. This was the third claim. I asked my Consultant in hospital if I could go home, because I needed to pay the mortgage. He was astonished that I was fit for work. He intervened. Off course the claim was backed dated, with my hospital stays deducted. Like everyone else I was honest but how can I get zero points then on the third time get the maximum. I would trade PIP for my old job any day. That is not possible.
It sounds like you've had a really tough time with the renewal process, and it must have been really stressful to go through that, especially with how the last assessment went. I'm glad your son was there to support you and that you were finally awarded your claim. It must feel confusing and frustrating to get such different outcomes each time. It's clear how much you value honesty and how much you'd prefer to be working your old job if you could. It's important to keep sharing your experiences, as it helps highlight the need for a more understanding and fair assessment process for everyone. Thank you for opening up about your journey.
@@ukcareguide I didn’t expect a response, therefore thank you 🙏 My renewal has now started. However, I haven’t received the paperwork. Thankfully I have an extension. I am fearful. I think like others, we get on with things and play down situations. That’s why I have to have my son there for me. He is in The Royal Marines Commandos as a PTI Instructor. He has a compassionate draught to be relatively near me. That’s if not required to be anywhere worldwide.I have deteriorated and a frank conversation has to take place about that. My adult social funded care was withdrawn last year.I am paying for an hour attendance every week. I used to have two visits a day. I wonder how many out there say, “Oh I will manage”, when we know, we will be in distress while smiling. My son sees through me. As an Army Veteran and then an Army Camp Follower, veterans tend to be problem solvers, not problem creators. Some things can’t be solved without help. This process is one. I am terrified.
Great video yer I've filled a few of these forms in and there is always lots of ways to answer a question have to read the question 10 times o er I'm on PIP now been on it a few years
They go after the easy targets and continue to harass them year on year, yet can't be bothered to come down hard on those who fake it because it means they'd actually have to to some work to prove these people are fleecing the system. My wife is constantly being assessed, even though she is partially sighted, partially deaf, has neuropathy, has to walk with stick, type 1 diabetes, gastroporesis, and is on the transplant list. She can't use her care allowance to buy a white stick. It wasn't deemed essential, so had to pay the money back. We have recently just received the allowance to be able to have a Motability car, which came at the right time as we relied on a 17 year old car to get to appointments which failed its MOT and had to be scrapped, BUT we were refused a parking bay outside our house, even though a neighbour up the road has got one. We sometimes have to park down the hill and my wife struggles up to the house. It really is a f*cked up system, and don't get me started on Universal Credit!!! The people who assess you are NOT medically qualified to assess you. We've even provided detailed written note from the consultants and they dismissed them.
@@andrewhaines3259 How do they know what you would be spending your care allowance on? I don't understand .
I did get the by mail they changed the date from the 3 to the 19 to make the payment, tank you for the information.
Ive got several health issues that entitle me to claim, but i dont because of the degradation people like me ard put through, as if you.re on trial because you have health issues that prevent you from doing daily tasks without pain or great difficulty. Worze for those who live alone and have no family to call on. They were quick enough to take our N.I and taxes from us though. Its not our fault that 50yrs of hard work has caused these issues either..yet "visitors" land here and get all the help they need without paying a penny into our system. Its sickening!
Now Rishi Sunak is planning to cut benefits for the mentally ill. It is disgraceful.
Always record an interaction
You can especially request this, give them plenty of notice. Then make arrangements for making your own recording as well. I compared the two and theirs had 15 minutes missing. Ran through it with a fine tooth comb and they HAD edited the recording. 3 of my answers had disappeared
Interesting video many thanks
Thank you for your nice comment. Im glad you found the video useful
These assessors are from a private company,they get a bonus when they knock someone back
Got my assessment soon and I'm quite anxious because I feel like they're gonna twist pretty much anything I say without telling me and just mention it on the letter without giving me a chance to refute anything at the actual assessment. I feel like I have to come up with counterarguments to every possible judgement they could make and remember to say all of those things at the assessment so they don't twist anything. Pretty exhausting 😅
Thank you for explaining this.
I have had an organ transplant and struggle to manage ... lost my PIP and YES I was tricked where the reception area was just over the prescribed distance from the assessment room
My assesment was done on the phone by a nurse , she understood everything fast and clear , she done the report , no probs at all , but on a road accident with polly trauma and severely affected legs 😢😢😢 , they no need to doubt , and assume i,m getting better , which i only dream i can be , this people need a change of workers there , should be medical people doing this , not jst office job. , cos they not competent. 😢😢😢
The legislation does state that the condition should be most of the time, not all of the time.
So how can a 2 hour assessment prove anything?
They try to trip you up even when your a genuine claimant ,I had an operation on my arm and shoulder with 56 stitches in two days before my assessment they still ask me what I am capable of lifting !!
Great video content,and explanation,keep doing them plz!
Very good video and brilliant explanations , i get PiP , now i had assessment again , answers are made to confuse u , my situation is worst anyway and suported by medical evidence , so so bad the system is like this , some people working there need to belong to medical profesion to understand body structure , diseases ... how conditions work , they always suppose u get better , they dont want to know about chronic disease , which means is worst and worst , not getting better , my condition need a medical pension cos i,m never able to walk far , not to work , the word polly trauma says everything 😢😢😢 , hard to deal with this system ,
My wife has MS, they did an assessment over the phone, which is ridiculous seeing as MS is both a physical and mental illness, they failed her because she could remember one hospital appointment she went to and that she can walk a certain distance, I wrote a sarcastic letter to them, but did get help in filling out the appeal forms, she eventually won, the system is designed to make you fail
I applied before got a no, i could not do that again im to tired. It's to draining
Don’t give up!! Please 🙏 in court you are going too win the case!!
I got neuropathy from trauma to my feet. It’s affecting everything but they say it’s fibromyalgia it’s not.
I had a PIP assessment and failed it. On the report the assessor said she saw me getting dressed (through a brick wall ) walking down the road (never went out waiting in for her) later was denied PIPS sent all my military medical records(28 pages of notes they could have got from the Marines) to PIPS and was denied even though 27 military medical consultants said otherwise.
so I replied that if I ever needed a brain operation I would ask the local road sweeper as he in their eyes is better qualified than all British military doctors and surgeons. A letter came back stating i should not be sarcastic so Pen pushers in PIPS know better that consultant surgeons they rely on in the NHS
A week later a doctor from WAR Pensions (part of the DWP/PIPS visited me on my request) and i had a full medical and was deemed 70% war disabled and got a higher war pension than I had pre PIPs.
I asked my first pips visit to be a doctor who knows military injuries and wounds denied.
got a speech therapist who it seems had already done my report before even knocking on my door. she said "as I could read a map and visit a bank and walk using a stick or Zimmer frame I failed the mobility part
There seems to be no face to face assessments since Covid only telephone consultations how can anyone assess a persons physical abilities by telephone?
They asked me how I manage DD in my assessment in 2014 so I told them I just let the DD amount go out that they ask for. They said what if you build up a large credit to which I replied I just leave the credit and it was my daughter who would ask for any refund to be processed using my email address that she has the password for.
They even asked me why I all my clothing including my coat didn't have any buttons and I said because I cannot do up any buttons even my trousers were just elasticated without buttons. I call the assessors whether it's for PIP or ESA assassins because they're there to deny the claim of anyone trying to claim the benefits.
Thank you for sharing your experience. It sounds like you've had to explain your situation in detail during your assessment in 2014, especially regarding managing direct debits and the practical adjustments you've made, like choosing clothes without buttons for ease. It's clear these experiences with assessors, whether for PIP or ESA, have been quite challenging for you. Your perspective on the process is important, and sharing it helps others understand the complexities involved in these assessments.
You MUST record your interview with a voice recorder. Less likely to lie
You can especially request this, give them plenty of notice. Then make arrangements for making your own recording as well. I compared the two and theirs had 15 minutes missing. Ran through it with a fine tooth comb and they HAD edited the recording. 3 of my answers had disappeared
I was told year to go to the get pip because of copd and other problems now I have a heart problem I see cardiologist 16 July but I see people who have pip get kicked off and stopped off pip
Thanks
My daughter had to have an assessment the assessor told blatant lies in the report 🤬
My daughter recently went through the same scenario. It was a telephone assessment for limited capability for the work element of UC.
I obtained the assessment report. I went through it word for word, sentence by sentence. We took it to a tribunal, but it didn't get that far. It went in favour of my daughter stating that the initial assessment and mandatory reconsideration were wrong. She is just waiting for the back pay now
they twist what you say and use it against you , they want there bonus for getting people off pip.
It sounds like your daughter's assessment didn't go fairly, especially if the report contains untrue information. It might be a good idea to challenge this by asking for a review of the decision. Collecting any evidence that can show the true situation can also help. Sometimes, getting advice from a group that knows about these assessments can make a big difference. They can guide you on what steps to take next.
You MUST record it with a voice recorder. Less likely to lie
I have MS and was on DLA high rate care and mobility for many years,then i had to transfer to PIP in 2019,i had an assessment at home and got a witch of an assessor,she was a nurse and was just awful,she tried tricking me and tied me in knots and when she did the report it was just full of lies,i lost my mobility car because i had my high mobility reduced to standard on PIP,so that meant i could hardly go out and had to rely on people for going out,due to her lies. I was too ill to appeal at the time.My PIP review this year was in January and i was ill just thinking about it,but i rang PIP up when my assessment date came it was a telephone assessment so i told them i wanted it recording by them,so the made another appt for me because not all assessors agree to being recorded,but we know why🤔so another appt date was arranged. On the day i got the nicest lady who explained everything that was going to happen,she was very fair,and listened to all i said,and i thought it had gone very well. It did go well i was awarded enhanced PIP for care and mobility for 10years🥳🥳I advise anyone having a telephone assessment to ring them and tell them you want THEM to record it, i am sure me doing this led to this very fair assessment i had,i think only the fair assessors agree to been recorded.
Should be via a doctor or consultant letter for vetting.paper work validates no cross examinations.like elabarote on how asthma copd affects you..yes they do find it odd one needs to breathe
I will definitely be refused I was too honest. Just because I can walk doesn't mean I struggled to get to that point of being able to function better. And yes very very painful days and then another dull weakness pain ..it's always there in every bone no matter what I do and some bloody horrible mornings and nights than others .The pain is horrendous and my doctor said I can't be on inflammatory long term cos of kidney damage but other than that I'm living off painkillers everyday so in the long term they will do harm anyway..along with that im.buying pain creams and supports.
The assessors should be drs as they seem to be able cure people in 30 mins lmao
No they're just able to see scammers. And people too lazy to work and use health as an excuse.
Never go to the assessment and do it over a phone call or home visit.
@@BAMS-lz7zn Have you had better luck over the phone ?
@@Lin.J333 yes I got on the sick when I asked for a phone interview. If you go to a assessment it can automatically fail you, especially if you go by yourself, they are constantly watching you at these assessments to see if you are genuinely ill. When you fill out the UC sick form, don't give them anything at all. Say you are basically housebound and you can only manage to go out once a fortnight and that's for some fresh air and too pick up your prescription. I am in constant back pain and I have suffered this for a long time. I go to the toilet it causes me pain. I cook ready made meals as it's easier than cooking a real meal. If you say I can do this and to that you will always fail these assessments. Get your messages delivered, get your medication delivered. If you can't get something delivered get a friend to pick them up for you. During COVID they were not delivering meds and messages and I got my friend to help me out with that. If you can arrange something like that if you can't get meds and messages delivered that is good enough to get passed a lot of the hassle with the assessment. And I got told this by someone who worked in the jobcentre. Remember as soon as you say I can do this or that will always fail you on most occasions. That's how a lot of people fail these assessments and if they come out to visit you, don't bath yourself or clean your house as that shows them you are incapable of doing that. And have clothing with no buttons as if you can fasten a button you basically can work. I know it sounds ludicrous but it can fail you. Once you complete the home assessment you can wash yourself and clean your home. You can say you go for a shower every now and then. But please make sure you have safely handles and a shower chair to sit on. And see if you can get these for free if not buy some and use them for were you sit in the house. As that shows them you need something to get up with. They asked me if I can use walking sticks, I can sometimes and that's just to help me get up from my bed in the morning. If you can't get any help from friends or family try and get messages and meds delivered. Especially messages as your meds are not as heavy as messages. There are a few people on TH-cam that can help you a lot better than me.
@@Lin.J333 yes I got on the sick and TH-cam took down the reply I said about two mins ago. They will fall you if you say I can do this or that. As that shows them you are capable of doing stuff, basically you can hardly do anything at all. If they say they are coming for a home visit, don't wash yourself and clean your house. Make sure you smell and your house is smelly. And you can say I can manage a shower once in a while. And make sure you have safely handles to help you get into the shower. And a shower chair to sit on for when you are getting washed. and safety handles for getting up from were you sit in the living room. If you don't have a walking stick, get one and you can use that for getting up in the morning and moving around. Remember people you can hardly do anything. Get messages and mediation delivered. If they say do you go out, you can say if I am up to it and someone will help me I can go down to the back court for some fresh air and I have to sit on the chair for that. If they ask you for how long say it depends on how my whatever is wrong with you see depends on the pain. I can manage about five minutes and then I have to go back home. The UC medical assessment is designed for people who can do just about nothing. They think people who can do some stuff are fit to work. I worked in manual labour jobs and I was always in pain and I had to leave these jobs I tried calling centre job and I was in pain from sitting and getting up to ease my back pain and I had to leave that job. As when I got home my back would get much worse.
Always record the PIP assessment.
I find it very difficult when the assessors introduce any kind of hypothetical situation. The problem is that I have a very clear recollection of how things *should* be done, and how I *used to* do things myself. None of that has any bearing on my daily life *right now*. My most recent assessor asked a question about how I would move through 3 downstairs rooms from the front of the house, to the kitchen at the back of the house. No indication given of a plausible real life situation where I'd be attempting to do this, btw. I'm partially paralysed and plan every movement 3 steps at a time before even trying to stand. It's just bizarre that the assessors can gain any insight into a claimant's daily life by asking them questions that rely on imagining the answer.
It seems like you're finding it hard to deal with questions from assessors that don't match your current situation. It's understandable that being asked to think about things you used to do, or hypothetical situations, doesn't really help show what your daily life is like now. Especially since you need to carefully plan your movements due to partial paralysis. It does sound odd that assessors use these kinds of questions to understand your daily challenges. Maybe it would be helpful to explain to them exactly how you manage your day-to-day activities, so they get a clearer picture of your needs and abilities.
@@ukcareguide I've got my award now. So, eventually I did manage to get the point across. The point is that when you're chatting to someone with a fairly friendly manner it's hard to keep in mind that these people aren't your friends. Another difficulty is that my husband is my carer. We just get on with life, and don't always break down in words who does what and why. We might say "we did the laundry", for example. I think that's a normal way of speaking in couples. What's actually happening is that *he* did the laundry. I was just pointing at things that needed to be in a separate wash. So, it could be useful for claimants to think about their care needs as if they were asking for help from someone that they'd never met before.
I have a friend who has severe MS and can not stand without her crutches and when she does stand with her crutches she is completely unstable and wobbles / tremors, at her assessment she was asked to stand and put her hands behind her back, which she cannot do, they put in her report to the DWP that she stood without her crutches and put her hands behind her back, one of many lies in her report.
@@TDCCrafting exactly. Before I was finally diagnosed with a spinal injury, a couple of the physio's hinted at MS. I have tremors and wobble a lot. So, I guess my condition "looks" similar to your friend. If I stand in a doorway, holding on to the frame until my knuckles are white, I can sometimes lift one leg off the ground provided my muscles are warmed up enough. At my very first assessment, the assessor wrote that I could stand on one leg without any difficulty! No mention of the three points of contact that are necessary for safety. She wrote her report as if I was juggling while riding a unicycle. If I'm in a gym surrounded with crash mats, I can sort of walk for a few yards without sticks if I hold my arms up and out (like a kid pretending to be an airplane). None of that is helpful for daily life because your hands aren't free to do anything with. It's not just my safety, either. I probably should use crutches but I'm terrified of getting tangled in them and injuring my wrists. My worst nightmare would be to injure someone else. That almost happened when I was using sticks, trying to get into a swimming pool. A toddler ran up to me and wrapped their arm around my knees. My husband was trying to stop all three of us falling.
After 3 months of waiting, Pip finally got back to me and said iv got an assessment next month. Now one of the reasons I'm applying for pip is because I'm deaf, everything so far has been via text and letter. But the assessment they've organised is over the phone. Is this some sort of trick to see if I'm faking? Or are they just stupid. I even specifically said on my forms that I can't speak over the phone.
I’ve just sent my forms off I’m completely deaf in 1 ear and lost a bit in the other. I just wonder how successful a pip claim is for being deaf. Please let me know how you get on
@@nigelstevens6218 the assessment itself was over the phone, it tried emailing pip and the company to who do the assessments to ask to change it, but they both ignored me.
The assessment itself was fine, lasted about 90 minutes, I had an English lady who was very nice and patient with my hearing.
She sent of her report the very next morning, but it takes 8 weeks for Pip to make a decision, so I'll likely be waiting a while to find out.
@@nigelstevens6218terrible. Diagnosed Tinnitus and partial deafness was just one of 6 or 7 problems I have that effect my life and am applying for Pip for. After 6 months of waiting, I got my decision letter today and scored 0 on everything. Theres a covering letter attached full of blatant lies about me. In regards to the hearing, they claim I can hear fine in both ears, and that I only experience tinnitus occasionally. Absolute rubbish. They lied about literally everything else too. Iv wrote 10 pages to them today outlining all their lies, and demanded a rereview. If that fails I'll escalate it to the courts. I can't believe how they can get away with this.
But you can type so work in a post office. Being deaf doesn't stop you from working.
@@chrisoconnor8392nobody said deaf people can't work, and a post office is an example of a place where a deaf person wouldn't be able to work.
The frustrating part aboit all this, is you can't complain about your assessor. The one my daughter had told blatant lies.
I was asked to pick up a bag of sugar at my assessment a few years ago.
My assessment by my assessor was a pack of lies. From beginning to end. I'm looking at ways to sue her for causing me unnecessary hardship and financial loss.
sue her for every penny she has.
Do as I did I asked the pip assessment interview her qualifications mine replied a
ex NHS nurse. So I asked her how on earth could she know more about my health condition than my own NHS specialist and doctor. She replied in tears that I had confronted her inappropriately
A short time later she stoped crying and stated to check my bank balance in near future as belived I had enough points to be awarded Pip. 2 weeks later I received 2 payments totaling £2800 back dated Pip payments.
I bet it costs more in assessors wages,tribunal costs ect than it does what they save in denying claims 😂
From what I have seen you are correct .
Buy a dinghy and land on UK shore
Always has to be that one brainless racist with a comment. You can't help yourself, can you? You lot never can.
Don't forget to throw away your passport and any other documentation as well.
just perhaps we're already all in the same dinghy
If you get pip and your condition changes later, why do you have to submit a new claim
How can they cut or stop your pip after "review" if you get it already for 8+ years ! And nothing has changed ?
Means test in the first instance.
Why is travelling on public transport a complex scenario
I am worried about the latest announcement regarding PIP and mental illnesses made by Sunak last week. While I think he does have a point that some people abuse the system, it is very worrying for people with mental illnesses. I have Bipolar disorder and physical problems and I am afraid I will lose my benefits.
Bipolar is one of the conditions which will enable you to keep your pip so dont be worrying x
I have bipolar, and ptsd but still work. Stop using it as an excuse. Being bipolar doesn't mean you should be on the sick. Lame excuse
i have never worked didnt finish school been sectioned 3 times in icu for suicide attempts diagnosed as young teen eupd autism adhd and i got mine first time for years no tribunal's or mr they have your records and if your trying to hard to score on every single task they wont buy it. my assessment went as follows i had my grandad speak witv me i was getting frustrated with her saying dont know alot and i scored on budgeting transport banthing and socializing and travel only 12 points and 12 on mobility . the assecor will fill the blanks if she sees a record thats legit and my question's and answers was not as i stated she changed them for the good thoufh not the bad so im sorry but if you are a cabbage or crippled then u score max on one task and thats enough but with mental you have to score low on afew and all the anxiety and depression cases are made to be hard to get by default by them because its the most common and fool proof so to speak conditon . trust me i have all the records and im diagnosed but i still worry i will be removed and ive never had no mr in 8 years nearly first time every time so its fair in my eyes.
I should get it but I'm to tired to even apply, it's so draining i can't face them froms
I was marked down because I had a shower and brushed my hair before going to my assessment appointment I had enough money to get a taxi to the appointment but couldn't afford the taxi home so had to get home by bus, luckily the bus stop was directly opposite the assessment centre, I had to change busses in order to get as close to home as possible and reduce the amount of walking I went all the way to a tribunal and the panel took one look at me asked a couple of questions and I went from 0 points Mobility to 8 points Mobility in the time period between the assessment and the tribunal I had applied for had an assessment for and been awarded a blue badge due to my limited mobility
You're able to get on public transport and given a blue badge? Wtf. That's got to be a joke.
@@chrisoconnor8392 No at the time of that assessment I didn't have a blue badge and I couldn't always get on public transport but if I could I did, fast forward 10 years and my conditions have progressed in a horrendously and extremely painfully, now I only go to medical appointments because that's all I am able to manage, I have been through many applications/renewals over the years, and if I could choose I would be healthy and not need anything from anyone, but unfortunately that's not the way it's working out ❣️
@@shel7228 for nothing by the sounds....quite capable of walking. Say so themselves.
@@shel7228 I have fibromyalgia arthritis in ankles knees hips lower spine shoulders and neck, Raynaud's Hypermobility, I have really bad mobility now and can't walk without the crutches but at the time of that assessment I had just worsened and was just starting to need the crutches I had one of my calf muscles go in to a major cramp/spasm and when I tried to walk through it, the pain in my calf was so intense and I thought that I had torn the muscle completely, but you don't have to be on a disability benefit to be eligible for a blue badge. Infact now they can award a blue badge if you have a hidden disability. So if you have problems which you think a blue badge would help with then apply for one.
Why was I refused I have to carry a card with me because of my back and how bad it can get
Appeal the decision.
Can I be forward and ask what type of card that is? Thank you 🙏
@@mairiconnell6282i googled it it seems there are a few cards available to purchase one called DID disability id card it costs about £20
@@kittybell4604 Sorry fog brain 🧠
I applied for pip due to having back problems due to heavy work. I was refused.
I've come across many who get it and have told me I just need to tell lies and I'm afraid I can't do that.
I got PIP and never lied once , didn’t need too. . You have to fight for it , if you get turned down appeal the decision. Don’t just give up and go away that’s what they want ‼️
Can anyone please tell me their thoughts as I have not seen any mention yet - if someone lives alone and has a condition (involving extreme fatigue and poor eyesight and balance) that prevents them from moving a LOT of cluttered boxes and inherited
items in very small place that have accumulated over the years, such that they cannot now navigate over them access the kitchen, and bathroom - is this relevant, or helpful, or perhaps even hindering, to mention in a PIP claim ? Or perhaps is it only appropriate for a Social Care Needs Assessment Form ? Of course on a PIP form I can still mention their assistance needs when they visit to use my kitchen or bathroom.
In my opinion they would say that’s not a permanent condition and that you could get someone to remove the boxes so I wouldn’t mention that as they will say it’s a self inflicted condition which could be avoided.
The problem is if you tell the truth, they punish you if you lie you get everything.
That's actually true ,my neighbour applied for pip when he was 64 to prove to me that he will get it no problem. There is nothing wrong with him at all . He is a big bullshitter! He is on no medication, he said ( phone assessment) since he got his COVID vaccine....he is sick , can't do this bla bla blaaaaa ...he got enhanced for both. Review in 10 years !!!!!
jeez ive got the forms to fill in for pip dont think i will bother now after reading the comments
Dear,don't give up,try your luck.You never know. X
Ive been refused pip, i did fill in the form wrong , my condition got worse after i filled in the form on line , i did appeal the refusal i need help how i get this solved
It sounds like you're having a tough time with your PIP application, especially since your condition got worse after you filled in the form. Appealing the refusal was a good step. For help with your appeal, it might be useful to contact a local advice service or a charity that supports people with your condition.
I was told today that I couldn’t do it online. Where is the form? Thank you 🙏
Ask citizens advice to help u fill out the form
@@JulieHathaway-et8bz Have you seen the queues for the C.A.B?
Seriously if you are suffering any mental problems.Dont even try fight it unless you have real help..I was unlucky.If well people can lie & get everything so easy.The real I'll ones are getting dropped .Should be law against bullying vulnerable people😔
First question for me was "do you have a pet?"
I'm so sorry to bother you, I applied for pip in march had my phone call 2nd may, had a txt on 3rd may saying my assessment is with the assessor and then a txt on the 20th saying the still haven't made a decision, so I requested my assessment letter and at the back page it says based on the claimant's likely future circumstances it would be appropriate to review the claim in 2 years what does that mean please? Thank you x
I think it means they might call you back after 2years
Answer truthful they have doctors letter hospitals letters.
Their friendly matter don't be deceived
Just answer: Do not engage in their tactics
Stick to facts
They are crafty, but they cannot argue with written hospital letters from a consultant stating your conditions
End of
i have never worked didnt finish school been sectioned 3 times in icu for suicide attempts diagnosed as young teen eupd autism adhd and i got mine first time for years no tribunal's or mr they have your records and if your trying to hard to score on every single task they wont buy it. my assessment went as follows i had my grandad speak witv me i was getting frustrated with her saying dont know alot and i scored on budgeting transport banthing and socializing and travel only 12 points and 12 on mobility . the assecor will fill the blanks if she sees a record thats legit and my question's and answers was not as i stated she changed them for the good thoufh not the bad so im sorry but if you are a cabbage or crippled then u score max on one task and thats enough but with mental you have to score low on afew and all the anxiety and depression cases are made to be hard to get by default by them because its the most common and fool proof so to speak conditon . trust me i have all the records and im diagnosed but i still worry i will be removed and ive never had no mr in 8 years nearly first time every time so its fair in my eyes.
I stood 30 minutes outside hospital in front of invalidity cars i did not see one eho couldnt walk and dont tell me all ills are not visible
I was just honest and thought i wouldn't get help .after seeing vids i was thinking no chance. I had one assesor call with two listening in. Took 8 weeks start claim to payment i guess just be honest 🤷
Please people take someone with you. Let them speak for you. Don’t fall for the BS don’t shake hands, don’t make eye contact. Let the person who takes you speak for you. The less you speak the better your chance of passing an assessment.
I’m getting 28 quid a week …. And have severe ptsd and agoraphobia
You didn't turn up: fail.
You managed to get here: fail.
They are trained not to give you anything: even if you are genuine. Needy
Wear a neck brace. And put it on at least 100 yards from the meeting, not as you're walking thru the door.
Why was I refused I have to carry a card with me because of my back and how bad it can get
I have dyslexia adhd and now diagnosed on a autistic spectrum. I scored 0 in my test .. i appealed still a No