The discussion about “lightening” the pressure under your feet, staring at 4:50 and again at 7:30 absolutely can’t be over emphasized. Apply this concept in the back swing and the down swing. Once I got this, I stopped swaying, coming over-the-top, early extending, and flipping. It allows you to feel the proper sequencing, timing, lag, swing plane, and put you in control of the low point. For me it was magic. Listen to these guys; they know what they are talking about.
Great stuff. This clicked for me when in a video, Malaska talked about pushing into the ground is what causes the hip to turn up and back (both backswing and into impact). Instead of spinning hips I now think ‘push foot into ground’.
after doing this and seeing your video on the breakdown of the arms in a golf swing, my swing has completely changed and i’m much more consistent now. you all have the best visual aids in golf instruction thank you
We always like to share the years worth of measured swings behind our concepts. Without it, we’d just be sharing an opinion. Lots of that already out there 🤓
Been building my library from AMG for a few months now....this video now makes more sense to me after successfully implementing the re-centering move. I just cant say enough how helpful these videos are...thank you guys!!! Im working on getting down there for the 3 day camp in Orlando...fingers crossed!
I really appreciate just how much detail and knowledge y'all put into each of these videos. ...along with the instructional attitude. Simple != easy! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us all as you do!
“Simple does not equal easy” is a great line. I have glossed over certain things in my golf swing at times and it can cause so many problems with the swing. I sometimes see videos on weight and pressure shifts and think to myself that is so beginner level and to a point it is, but if you haven’t mastered it it can come back to haunt you. I have been early extending big time in the backswing and the downswing. My head is dipping towards the ball way too much. A lot of the problem has been my weight transfer. I have been way out on my toes in the backswing. I think I find myself worrying about things like lag and certain positions in the swing to the detriment of my golf swing fundamentals.
Huge fan. I'm wondering why we didn't show the measurements of pressure from left arm parallel in the backswing to left arm parallel in the downswing? We sort of jumped from checkpoint 3 to 5 and skipped checkpoint 4. I know it's sort of dynamically changing and a little different for everyone at that point but it would have been nice to see the recorded pressure measurements of the pros through the top. Anyways, y'all are easily the best instructors on youtube, keep it up
Great Great Video! I’ve been working on exactly this right now! One “feel” or mental image I’ve been using is I imagine my club is filling up my leg with power….as I pull the club back, it’s filling into the back foot, and as it starts to move upward to parallel, the power is going up my back leg and up to my hips…once I get past parallel (the club is now moving forward technically) the power flows over from one pant leg and down the front pant leg to my front foot (imaging a waterfall) and into my front foot….works pretty well for me.
I used to be on the heels. It also lead to my lead foot pain. Now feel so so much stable and the pain is also gone. I would say I'm at least ten times more stable. Thank you so much for the video. Really appreciate it!
Following your advice regarding camera setup. Please would you post a video? showing a good swing that I could copy from the same camera positions front view and down the line view.
When it comes to lightening the trail foot in the downswing. How can one lighten the trail foot without collapsing the trail side. On another video that I saw from you guys, you were explaining how a baseball player pushes off of his right leg to throw a pitch. I’ve been struggling to understand how the trail leg work and this is great explanation, just want to make sure I am clear about “lightening” the right leg on the downswing without collapsing the trail side
Light bulb moment for me was one of your previous videos (provided you start off with weight in right place then get your hips moving correctly ie right hip goes back and around which promotes the recentreing and then on downswing opposite happens with left hip going up and around, legs act more like pistons to move the hips - 100% convinced foot pressure sorts itself out if hips move correctly). The final missing piece (which I struggle with the most but when I get it right is so sweet) is getting my arms to move first (ala all your earlier videos). If my arms go first (in reality they don’t as the body/hip naturally braces) then everything else just reacts in correct sequence (it’s slowly getting there thanks to you guys but boy has it been painful. Playing the long game (and always think of your message of need to go at slower speeds and if it was easy we would all be playing on the tour!). Must say it’s nice to hit my driver long and straight with very little effort (people just don’t know how much speed they are leaving out there if they don’t move their arms)
@@AthleticMotionGolf thanks chaps - one question if I may which may be difficult to answer without seeing my swing. My 7 iron stats on indoor launch monitor are showing that with smooth swing I’m getting 75-80mph club head speed, ball speed 100-105mph, launch angle is 18-20 deg, peak height 20-22 yards, decent angle 38-40 deg, but spin is only around 5000-5500, which seems a bit low ? Do you think the spin is on the low side because I’m hitting off a mat or down to something else, or do you think it’s ok? Thanks !
@@haricsl hitting off indoor turf can drop spin by ~500rpms. That’s certainly a part of it. Speed also has a big influence on spin. The lower the speed the lower the spin with all else being equal.
Interesting video. But at 2:28, it would be nice to know what club is being used. I'm gonna assume that there is at least some variance from, say, 9 iron to driver.
At minute 2:53 the pressure thermography shows more surface area and pressure on the left foot, however, you are making a reference this is 50% left and 50% right. Could you please explain how you arrived to this conclusion if the picture doesn't match the 50/50 claim?
Pressure is the vertical force inside the surface area of the foot. The heat maps show what part of the foot is in contact with the ground at a given point in the swing. The two are not the same, but sometimes they’re very close. Sometimes they aren’t.
Please add this content to your AMG + checkpoint 1 videos - it would have helped me understand the set up better. I was confused (no surprises there) - worked on pant seam over the heels, but as a chronic all the weight on the heals guy it didn’t make sense…. The tip on shoelaces made it all come together in my small brain. Love the AMG + swing system- on plane and loving it!
I'm not sure if you are still answering comments but I've tried to add the heel lightening into my golf swing and noticed lately in video that my trail heel comes off the ground super early which is getting my right hip high and causing an over the top swing, any advice for feeling the right amount of lightening without fully lifting the heel? Love all the videos, thanks!
how is that first golfer's stance around 3:00 minutes 50-50 when it looks like he has a lot more pressure on his lead food?? The center of gravity was almost identical but looked to be way more weight on his lead foot with the red colors and more surface area showing..
Thanks, very useful advice. It seems so simple, but it can get complicated. For example, one error amateurs make, at least this one does, is to allow the shift of weight onto the trail leg and foot to allow the knee to be lose and the leg to slide outside of the outer edge of the trail foot/shoe. That makes it difficult if not impossible to get back centered over the ball. To correct this, one reminds oneself to brace that trail leg firmly against the turn on the backswing. That also generates a forward push with the trail leg that adds power and speed to the downswing. However, as you point out, pushing down hard on the trail foot to prevent it sliding back does make it harder to execute that "fall" onto the lead foot while simply lightening the trail foot.
@@AthleticMotionGolf played a sunrise round at one of my local courses here in southern california. didn't do as well as I wanted, so back to the range I go lol
Thanks so much! Doesn’t that heat map show he has more weight on lead foot? It definitely has a larger graphic than the trail foot in the image you shared. Using common sense, definitely not familiar with that system.
Still winter in Sweden but me and my wife is off to Portugal in March for a month of golf! I will definitely work on my pressure shift and foot work. When Shaun said it was like a little "dance move" it scared me as I am a lousy dancer. But the great Gary Player danced with his wife every day and said that dancing is a great path to a good golf swing
Nice work as always! What do you think about the trail foot rolling over as a single piece instead of predominantly the trail heel lightening? Like Rose or Freddie?
Mike, between the top of the back swing and left arm parallel in the down swing do you use the inside edge of the trail foot to help move pressure to the front foot and also help open the hips? This what it feels like. Thanks
What was used by the pro in the pressure plate images? A wedge would look somewhat different than a driver. Maybe you mentioned it in the video, but is it a mid-iron?
You guys have a lot of great pieces and I am able to interpret and apply information to my swing if applicable. Since you guys have a great pro vs am series, i think it would be a great lead into the dynamic mobility of the spine of a pro, side bend, rotation and extension vs amateur. If you dont have a pro spine, where do you go from there?
Great video as usual. What about the horizontal plane (sheer) forces? Footwork should augment horizontal plane rotation by driving the front foot perpendicular to the target line and thus driving the lead hip in the opposite direction. Can you educate us on the degree of sheer force in the backswing and the downswing? Am vs pro? We hear alot about "pressure" which is in the vertical direction, but we need to know about torsion in our feet and horizontal sheer force too. Those forces are invisible since they result in zero motion (at the feet) but critically improve opening of the hips at impact.
That’s a good idea for a video🙏🏻. In the meantime sheet forces at the feet aren’t the same as the horizontal plane ground forces but both do happen in the swing. What’s also interesting is that some of the highest horizontal forces we’ve captured are from players with low amounts of rotation. Increasing one doesn’t mean you’ll increase the other. Most of the talk is about vertical because it’s normally where we can create the largest moment arm used to help with increasing speed. But you’re right, there are too other planes working in the background too 🤓
@@AthleticMotionGolf fascinating. One other idea: how does club head speed vary w position in the downswing? We hear a lot about “cracking the whip” and we see pros looking super relaxed in the downswing (couples, els) and still hitting it 300. I would expect the “head speed vs downswing position” graph to look super spikey in a pro and far less so for the typical am. PS I can’t believe you guys replied. Very impressive.
I get very deep into my right heel. My right toes lift off the ground! I of course then recentre late and never get enough pressure getting into the left foot. The question - do you see many physical limitations that lead to what I describe, or all based on applying the principle you outline in this video? *Side note - Today I got some new spikeless shoes (TrueLinks) and my pressures already moving so much better than when I wear soft spikes FJ or GFORE shoes...
Man I love you guys. Off topic, but I'd love a video/ explanation on what you guys notice as the biggest influences on club path either in pressure or gears. Not massive changes, but more fades vs draws.
The best way to do it is not change or manipulate the path as you swing. Instead change isn’t orientation to the target with your alignment at address.
Hope you can answer my questions. When you get to the end of your backswing, most of the force is into your lead foot. Can I assume that if I get the force where it’s supposed to be that I’ve also re-centered? Then what? I’ve only got 1/4 second. Do I push off my lead leg? Do I focus on my right arm or moving my hands down? I can’t do all these things and I’m confused about this part of the swing . Thanks
Interesting, I’ve been trying to it get pressure in heal of back foot in backswing it doesn’t feel rt but from other videos thought that’s where was suppose to go.. how does the hip go up does that happen automatically when front shoulder going down? Thx
Be careful taking pressure advice from sources that don't measure it daily. The trail hip will go up slightly because of the shift to the trail side. The lead hip goes down because the trail knee doubles in bend (backswing).
I’m right handed .Should my left knee in the backswing move to the right or should it point straight out ? I know it probably moves slightly to the right ,please help
I subscribe and have enjoyed many of your videos. Thank you for the improvement in this video, please continue minimizing discussion and illustrations of what golfers do wrong. That provides absolute value and consumes precious minutes of my life. I watch your videos to learn what to do right. I have no interest in what other golfers do wrong. Cheers
Well these videos aren’t meant for just you so let’s not expect them to cater to your very specific needs. Take what you can from the video and move on with your “precious” minutes or spend them elsewhere.
To hit to the ball farther correct footwork must be achieved, as per your video. Of the 3 forces measured on pressure plates; torque, horizontal force and vertical force, which has the greatest effect on club head speed? Is the sequence of footwork described in your video the way the forces work in sequence? Torque first ( trail foot pressure starting the downswing). Horizontal force ( weight shifting to lead foot), then vertical force ( from front of lead foot to heal of lead foot). Or am I completely wrong assuming that?
Keep in mind that pressure is only the vertical force under each foot. As far as the other forces in the sequence, it’s typically horizontal first, then torque, then vertical. You’re on the right track 👊
If the shoe/foot doesn’t move forward - it appears wt is moving forward from setup onto the balls and toes to backswing left arm parallel position (white dots). Through completion white dots never get behind setup. Conclusion: be on your balls and toes. A little confusion - does pressure shift sides but center is still slightly forward of setup? Am I interpreting this correctly - I think I would never feel much pressure in the rt heel but more of a wt into rt foot w balance still slightly forward.
Question: When you're showing the pressure plate, there are different colors. When I look at the setup graphic, it's orange on the left foot but not on the right foot. This leads me to believe there is more weight on the left than on the right foot. It says it's 50/50 so the colors must mean something else?
@@AthleticMotionGolf What does that mean? The darker the color should mean more pressure. That pro golfer looks more 60/40 not 50/50. You’ll have to elaborate more on that if that’s not the case. Great video though always love these.
The colors are the relative distribution of the pressure but only in that foot. Like there's a color coded map Legend for each foot. Each color means have Blue pressure here, yellow pressure here, red (most) pressure here. BUT Blue pressure for the left foot does not equal blue pressure in the right foot. Why? Because the pressure amounts are changing all the time (50/50 to 75/25 and so on) Imagine if there was one color system for both feet. It would become nonsense because you'd need to have a different color legend for each combination of pressure distribution between the feet.
@@cameronmciver7588 thanks! I think I understand now. They should remove those colors then and just show pressure numbers then. People will naturally assume the colors mean pressure between the feet
Hi guys! Great video! 16.7" from inside of heel to heel or center of heel mass to center of heel mass? Some designator like the balls or a bracket would visually help. Thank you!
Loved this, I have a longer broad body and shorter arms and legs for my height. How does that affect my stance width? My instep is under my arm pits and if I go wider I feel like I can’t turn or move weight at all .
I enjoyed this video but I’m struggling to put it together with some of the points you’ve made recently about shoulders and tilts. If I shift pressure into my lead side whilst rotating the shoulders on that crescent plane, it chucks the club out in front of me too early in the downswing. I’ve seen other people talk about shifting into the front toes with back to target then rotating open whilst pushing into the heel but your shallowing video seemed to say that was incorrect. It seems like shifting pressure into the front of the lead foot encourages shallowing but also early extension and an open face whilst shifting the left side back away from the ball encourages over the top movements and pulls/hooks. Again, I’ve seen other coaches say pull the lead side back but compensate for the over-plane move that creates by adding side tilt but you’ve called that out to be incorrect too. How does a pro stitch all this together such that they shift that lead side away from the ball early but without going over-plane?
Let me add a quick note/observation/suggestion. I would love to see a double screen of the player and the foot pressures (either static or in motion) so that we can see these together. The description is good, but it helps me to see it all together.
I've noticed a lot of pros keeping their trail heel down or very close to the ground at impact. I've always gotten my heel high much earlier in the downswing. It would seem that I'm lightening that foot nicely, but I'm wondering if the lifting of the heel might be excessive. The only pro I see doing what I do is Justin Thomas.
And, to a degree, Scheffler. I'm curious because I'm tempted to stick a wedge face under my foot and try to keep it down until impact. But I'm wary of the concept, maybe doing more harm than good.
@@winstonsmith11 yeah, don’t do that lol. Wry few have their heel on the ground at impact. It takes insane hip mobility to rotate the hips well with the trail heel in the ground. Work on the in between of those two extremes 👍
2 minutes ago?? It's hot off the press!! 😊 I've always felt that if my hands, feet and head are doing the right thing, the body will produce the "positions" need for good ball striking. (Along with rhythm)
Awesome stuff! So, in your opinion does proper footwork lead to good swing mechanics or does good swing mechanics lead to proper footwork. Asking for a friend:)
Tell your friend 😉that proper footwork leads to a more dynamic swing. It's possible to have good mechanics without good dynamics (speed). We call that the "pro shop swing" lol.
This is pressure not weight. At some points in the swing they move together and at some points they move independently. ~70 on trail leg at 3, then ~70 on lead leg at 5 are the main ones to work on.
I don't know where and how many sensors you have on the feet for gears, but what does that show you about foot flare at address for the majority of pros, and pros vs ams. Since foot flare effects both where pressure is on the feet, and for how long as well as how much, when, and how fast and what direction(s) the hips it is worth mentioning. On another note in their primes Rory, Greg Norman, Nick Faldo, and Ernie Els (when he was setting course/tournament records in Europe in the late 90s). All had their feet flat on the ground still at impact suggesting that they weren't taking pressure off that right heel, and their right hips weren't jutting out toward the ball/target line as fast as you guys are showing your pro doing.
We use force plates to measure what the feet are doing. Pros typically have a small amount of flare with each foot. The hose player do not have both feet flat at impact, some famously not so. What the foot looks like on video is NOT proof of anything regarding pressure location. We aren’t showing pro hips in this video so I’m not sure what you’re referencing. If you can clarify that would be helpful.
@@AthleticMotionGolf The more foot flare present the more hips (and to a smaller degree the knees) have freedom to turn rotationally over the heel, and the more overall rotation they can make. The less foot flare the more rotation is restricted, and the more likely the hips/pelvis is to tip up and down relative to the ground. (I'm guessing you'd see this difference reflected in gear numbers). If the hips rotated deeper with less resistance the brain isn't as eager to relieve the pressure, and the more time (and space) is required for it to return back to (and pass) its starting position. The deeper the hips have turned the longer pressure is likely to remain on the rear foot, and the less hip turn and more restriction on the hip the sooner the pressure is likely to come off the rear foot. (Guessing that would be reflected by readings from the pressure plate(s).
The research of the German golf teacher Pat Kuck shows, that half of the players have their natural balance points slightly nearer to the balls of the feet (DJ, Koepka), the other half slightly nearer to the heels (Tiger, Nicklaus) and therefore have a different kind of weight shift. Do you have other data?
I’m not aware of any research those players have been a part of, especially Tiger and Jack. The ONLY way to know what those players do is to have them on force plates. We’ve captured and worked with top pros for a number of years now which is how we collect the data we’ve been able to share.
Ok. When you make the balance test at set up pushing against the chest you will instantly remark, that one half of the players fall behind, when they have their weight on the balls, the other ones when they have it on the heels. This is a test from TaiChi.
@@AthleticMotionGolfok; please then only tell me, whether your data show, that the big majority of players have their weight nearer to the balls than the middle of the feet.
Jack Nicolas was taught to, FEEL the swing, in the FEET 👣.. ..Jack Grout instructor I would add, if your setup is correct, the biomechanical parts of the body, build from the feet 🐾 up, thru the body, into the hands, to 2 fingers.....
I've been watching another channel “good golf coaching” some of his thoughts differ from this or I'm not understanding either lol .not just about the footwork
@@jvitali60 there will probably always be differences of ideas when they’re based on opinions or 2D observations. That describes golf instruction since it became a profession. That’s also the very reason we rely on objective measured info 🤓
For the foot pressure images, If you are a left-handed player and watching this from a cell phone or tablet put the screen on lock and invert the screen 180° After you’ve done that, imagine you are mirroring a right handed player on the driving range. Thank you for the video and great information.
Learning a new neuromotor pattern correctly like this can be a challenge without some form of accurate feedback. The first person who can create a poor man’s boditrak will probably win the PGA show gadget of the year award. Closest thing so far is the e bell. Doing it correctly is kinda like riding a bicycle. You fall and fail until suddenly you get it. Good description but I suspect that the you will need to revisit this. How about a more fluid motion drill with a weight or kettle bell etc?
I can use you with the shovel on the farm. When I play golf I use a golf club. Although some if the stories players tell me to put a shovel in my bag. Will the shovel count as a 15th club. Please don't take me serious.
We’ve seen a lot of pressure recommendations come from folks who have no way of measuring pressure or ground forces. We see it every day. Of the small percentage who can measure it, an even smaller percentage have measured tour pros. Then an even smaller percentage have worked with those pros to make improvements to their footwork. All that has to be factored into what’s advocated, not just with this, but with any application of data.
I appreciate the videos but I find it so funny the way stuff like this is explained like saying it's starting to shift this way or that way when it is less than a split second. So nothing is starting to shift, it just shifts or pressure moves instantly. People try to make these moves in slow motion and it just messes them up. Royalty
Really? We cover footwork for setup, backswing, transition, and downswing. If you think that's only 20% of the swing, math might not be your strong suit.
@@AthleticMotionGolf to not show the entire swing all in 1 slowmotion video is a L. You are only giving us bits and pieces. But theres plenty of other vids that show it that I watched after
@@sleepyhollow2 bits and pieces? We literally cover, in detail, what happens at each phase of the swing. You might not like it, but it’s silly to say we’ve left 80% out or are only showing bits and pieces.
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The discussion about “lightening” the pressure under your feet, staring at 4:50 and again at 7:30 absolutely can’t be over emphasized. Apply this concept in the back swing and the down swing. Once I got this, I stopped swaying, coming over-the-top, early extending, and flipping. It allows you to feel the proper sequencing, timing, lag, swing plane, and put you in control of the low point. For me it was magic. Listen to these guys; they know what they are talking about.
Great stuff. This clicked for me when in a video, Malaska talked about pushing into the ground is what causes the hip to turn up and back (both backswing and into impact). Instead of spinning hips I now think ‘push foot into ground’.
Bingo 👏
after doing this and seeing your video on the breakdown of the arms in a golf swing, my swing has completely changed and i’m much more consistent now. you all have the best visual aids in golf instruction thank you
Thanks for posting and the 1K swings worth of data that went into this adds a huge amount to the credibility.
We always like to share the years worth of measured swings behind our concepts. Without it, we’d just be sharing an opinion. Lots of that already out there 🤓
Been building my library from AMG for a few months now....this video now makes more sense to me after successfully implementing the re-centering move. I just cant say enough how helpful these videos are...thank you guys!!! Im working on getting down there for the 3 day camp in Orlando...fingers crossed!
Your reply on sequencing being horizontal first, torque second and vertical last is gold.
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I really appreciate just how much detail and knowledge y'all put into each of these videos. ...along with the instructional attitude. Simple != easy! Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us all as you do!
“Simple does not equal easy” is a great line. I have glossed over certain things in my golf swing at times and it can cause so many problems with the swing. I sometimes see videos on weight and pressure shifts and think to myself that is so beginner level and to a point it is, but if you haven’t mastered it it can come back to haunt you. I have been early extending big time in the backswing and the downswing. My head is dipping towards the ball way too much. A lot of the problem has been my weight transfer. I have been way out on my toes in the backswing. I think I find myself worrying about things like lag and certain positions in the swing to the detriment of my golf swing fundamentals.
I really like your content! Not only it is spot on, but giving out concrete advice in drills to figure out ourselves, what you are implementing.
Love hearing you enjoy the content and that it helps 👊😊
Huge fan. I'm wondering why we didn't show the measurements of pressure from left arm parallel in the backswing to left arm parallel in the downswing? We sort of jumped from checkpoint 3 to 5 and skipped checkpoint 4. I know it's sort of dynamically changing and a little different for everyone at that point but it would have been nice to see the recorded pressure measurements of the pros through the top. Anyways, y'all are easily the best instructors on youtube, keep it up
Great Great Video! I’ve been working on exactly this right now! One “feel” or mental image I’ve been using is I imagine my club is filling up my leg with power….as I pull the club back, it’s filling into the back foot, and as it starts to move upward to parallel, the power is going up my back leg and up to my hips…once I get past parallel (the club is now moving forward technically) the power flows over from one pant leg and down the front pant leg to my front foot (imaging a waterfall) and into my front foot….works pretty well for me.
Love it 👊🤓
I used to be on the heels. It also lead to my lead foot pain. Now feel so so much stable and the pain is also gone. I would say I'm at least ten times more stable. Thank you so much for the video. Really appreciate it!
Following your advice regarding camera setup. Please would you post a video? showing a good swing that I could copy from the same camera positions front view and down the line view.
Are you asking for a golf swing to copy, or a camera setup to copy?
When it comes to lightening the trail foot in the downswing. How can one lighten the trail foot without collapsing the trail side. On another video that I saw from you guys, you were explaining how a baseball player pushes off of his right leg to throw a pitch. I’ve been struggling to understand how the trail leg work and this is great explanation, just want to make sure I am clear about “lightening” the right leg on the downswing without collapsing the trail side
I’ve been rotating into my right heel all my life. Thanks for the tip.
Light bulb moment for me was one of your previous videos (provided you start off with weight in right place then get your hips moving correctly ie right hip goes back and around which promotes the recentreing and then on downswing opposite happens with left hip going up and around, legs act more like pistons to move the hips - 100% convinced foot pressure sorts itself out if hips move correctly).
The final missing piece (which I struggle with the most but when I get it right is so sweet) is getting my arms to move first (ala all your earlier videos). If my arms go first (in reality they don’t as the body/hip naturally braces) then everything else just reacts in correct sequence (it’s slowly getting there thanks to you guys but boy has it been painful. Playing the long game (and always think of your message of need to go at slower speeds and if it was easy we would all be playing on the tour!). Must say it’s nice to hit my driver long and straight with very little effort (people just don’t know how much speed they are leaving out there if they don’t move their arms)
Love hearing that! Great job putting those concepts to work in your swing 👏
@@AthleticMotionGolf thanks chaps - one question if I may which may be difficult to answer without seeing my swing. My 7 iron stats on indoor launch monitor are showing that with smooth swing I’m getting 75-80mph club head speed, ball speed 100-105mph, launch angle is 18-20 deg, peak height 20-22 yards, decent angle 38-40 deg, but spin is only around 5000-5500, which seems a bit low ? Do you think the spin is on the low side because I’m hitting off a mat or down to something else, or do you think it’s ok? Thanks !
@@haricsl hitting off indoor turf can drop spin by ~500rpms. That’s certainly a part of it. Speed also has a big influence on spin. The lower the speed the lower the spin with all else being equal.
Interesting video. But at 2:28, it would be nice to know what club is being used. I'm gonna assume that there is at least some variance from, say, 9 iron to driver.
...based on the data I would guess a mid to long iron.
Always a 7iron unless noted 😉
Thank you!@@AthleticMotionGolf
At minute 2:53 the pressure thermography shows more surface area and pressure on the left foot, however, you are making a reference this is 50% left and 50% right. Could you please explain how you arrived to this conclusion if the picture doesn't match the 50/50 claim?
Pressure is the vertical force inside the surface area of the foot. The heat maps show what part of the foot is in contact with the ground at a given point in the swing. The two are not the same, but sometimes they’re very close. Sometimes they aren’t.
Got it. thanks!
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Please add this content to your AMG + checkpoint 1 videos - it would have helped me understand the set up better. I was confused (no surprises there) - worked on pant seam over the heels, but as a chronic all the weight on the heals guy it didn’t make sense…. The tip on shoelaces made it all come together in my small brain. Love the AMG + swing system- on plane and loving it!
Love it! We’re gonna be adding a bunch of new stuff to it soon 😉
I'm not sure if you are still answering comments but I've tried to add the heel lightening into my golf swing and noticed lately in video that my trail heel comes off the ground super early which is getting my right hip high and causing an over the top swing, any advice for feeling the right amount of lightening without fully lifting the heel? Love all the videos, thanks!
Good job boy’s ….very good explanation and demonstrative diagram ….
how is that first golfer's stance around 3:00 minutes 50-50 when it looks like he has a lot more pressure on his lead food?? The center of gravity was almost identical but looked to be way more weight on his lead foot with the red colors and more surface area showing..
Thanks, very useful advice. It seems so simple, but it can get complicated. For example, one error amateurs make, at least this one does, is to allow the shift of weight onto the trail leg and foot to allow the knee to be lose and the leg to slide outside of the outer edge of the trail foot/shoe. That makes it difficult if not impossible to get back centered over the ball. To correct this, one reminds oneself to brace that trail leg firmly against the turn on the backswing. That also generates a forward push with the trail leg that adds power and speed to the downswing. However, as you point out, pushing down hard on the trail foot to prevent it sliding back does make it harder to execute that "fall" onto the lead foot while simply lightening the trail foot.
new AMG video before my round tomorrow. LFG!!
Let’s go! Where u teeing it up?
@@AthleticMotionGolf played a sunrise round at one of my local courses here in southern california. didn't do as well as I wanted, so back to the range I go lol
Thanks so much!
Doesn’t that heat map show he has more weight on lead foot? It definitely has a larger graphic than the trail foot in the image you shared.
Using common sense, definitely not familiar with that system.
Which graphic are your referencing so I can give a good answer? 🤓
@@AthleticMotionGolf I think he means the first heatmap around 3 minutes in. I have the same question.
Oops, just saw the answer in Rob's post below.
Still winter in Sweden but me and my wife is off to Portugal in March for a month of golf! I will definitely work on my pressure shift and foot work. When Shaun said it was like a little "dance move" it scared me as I am a lousy dancer. But the great Gary Player danced with his wife every day and said that dancing is a great path to a good golf swing
Portugal seems like a lovely place to 🕺🏼💃😊
Nice work as always! What do you think about the trail foot rolling over as a single piece instead of predominantly the trail heel lightening? Like Rose or Freddie?
That's typically how players lighten it 👍
Mike, between the top of the back swing and left arm parallel in the down swing do you use the inside edge of the trail foot to help move pressure to the front foot and also help open the hips? This what it feels like. Thanks
@@TJ-pf6sj for a lot of players, trail foot pressure does roll to the inside during that time of the swing👍
What was used by the pro in the pressure plate images? A wedge would look somewhat different than a driver. Maybe you mentioned it in the video, but is it a mid-iron?
So we better off on the balls of our feet and lighten our opposite foot to shift weight? Is there a drill or we just need to do this until we get it?
You guys have a lot of great pieces and I am able to interpret and apply information to my swing if applicable. Since you guys have a great pro vs am series, i think it would be a great lead into the dynamic mobility of the spine of a pro, side bend, rotation and extension vs amateur. If you dont have a pro spine, where do you go from there?
Great video as usual. What about the horizontal plane (sheer) forces? Footwork should augment horizontal plane rotation by driving the front foot perpendicular to the target line and thus driving the lead hip in the opposite direction. Can you educate us on the degree of sheer force in the backswing and the downswing? Am vs pro? We hear alot about "pressure" which is in the vertical direction, but we need to know about torsion in our feet and horizontal sheer force too. Those forces are invisible since they result in zero motion (at the feet) but critically improve opening of the hips at impact.
That’s a good idea for a video🙏🏻. In the meantime sheet forces at the feet aren’t the same as the horizontal plane ground forces but both do happen in the swing. What’s also interesting is that some of the highest horizontal forces we’ve captured are from players with low amounts of rotation. Increasing one doesn’t mean you’ll increase the other. Most of the talk is about vertical because it’s normally where we can create the largest moment arm used to help with increasing speed. But you’re right, there are too other planes working in the background too 🤓
@@AthleticMotionGolf fascinating. One other idea: how does club head speed vary w position in the downswing? We hear a lot about “cracking the whip” and we see pros looking super relaxed in the downswing (couples, els) and still hitting it 300. I would expect the “head speed vs downswing position” graph to look super spikey in a pro and far less so for the typical am. PS I can’t believe you guys replied. Very impressive.
Thanks men. Always a great lesson and get me playing better.
Awesome 👏
I get very deep into my right heel. My right toes lift off the ground! I of course then recentre late and never get enough pressure getting into the left foot. The question - do you see many physical limitations that lead to what I describe, or all based on applying the principle you outline in this video? *Side note - Today I got some new spikeless shoes (TrueLinks) and my pressures already moving so much better than when I wear soft spikes FJ or GFORE shoes...
8:35 - So if I want to stall the hip rotation earlier to release the hands, I keep the trail leg more "locked"?
Locking the leg out of the top massively hinders the trail hip's ability to turn through. That will change how you release the club.
Fascinating process details
Another great video, thank you. What do you guys think of the Salted Golf Smart insoles? I’m still saving up for a gears system, ha ha
Pretty good!
Man I love you guys.
Off topic, but I'd love a video/ explanation on what you guys notice as the biggest influences on club path either in pressure or gears. Not massive changes, but more fades vs draws.
The best way to do it is not change or manipulate the path as you swing. Instead change isn’t orientation to the target with your alignment at address.
Hope you can answer my questions. When you get to the end of your backswing, most of the force is into your lead foot. Can I assume that if I get the force where it’s supposed to be that I’ve also re-centered? Then what? I’ve only got 1/4 second. Do I push off my lead leg? Do I focus on my right arm or moving my hands down? I can’t do all these things and I’m confused about this part of the swing . Thanks
Most of the force should not be under your lead foot at the top🤓
Thank you, I've just recently been looking for this type of foot work video, feel like it's perhaps the most lacking major part in my swing!
Hopefully not anymore 👊🤓
Interesting, I’ve been trying to it get pressure in heal of back foot in backswing it doesn’t feel rt but from other videos thought that’s where was suppose to go.. how does the hip go up does that happen automatically when front shoulder going down? Thx
Be careful taking pressure advice from sources that don't measure it daily. The trail hip will go up slightly because of the shift to the trail side. The lead hip goes down because the trail knee doubles in bend (backswing).
I’m right handed .Should my left knee in the backswing move to the right or should it point straight out ? I know it probably moves slightly to the right ,please help
I subscribe and have enjoyed many of your videos. Thank you for the improvement in this video, please continue minimizing discussion and illustrations of what golfers do wrong. That provides absolute value and consumes precious minutes of my life. I watch your videos to learn what to do right. I have no interest in what other golfers do wrong. Cheers
Well these videos aren’t meant for just you so let’s not expect them to cater to your very specific needs. Take what you can from the video and move on with your “precious” minutes or spend them elsewhere.
To hit to the ball farther correct footwork must be achieved, as per your video. Of the 3 forces measured on pressure plates; torque, horizontal force and vertical force, which has the greatest effect on club head speed? Is the sequence of footwork described in your video the way the forces work in sequence? Torque first ( trail foot pressure starting the downswing). Horizontal force ( weight shifting to lead foot), then vertical force ( from front of lead foot to heal of lead foot). Or am I completely wrong assuming that?
Keep in mind that pressure is only the vertical force under each foot. As far as the other forces in the sequence, it’s typically horizontal first, then torque, then vertical. You’re on the right track 👊
What is the pressure at the top of the backswing?
If the shoe/foot doesn’t move forward - it appears wt is moving forward from setup onto the balls and toes to backswing left arm parallel position (white dots). Through completion white dots never get behind setup. Conclusion: be on your balls and toes. A little confusion - does pressure shift sides but center is still slightly forward of setup? Am I interpreting this correctly - I think I would never feel much pressure in the rt heel but more of a wt into rt foot w balance still slightly forward.
The center will move from side to side, but much less than the pressure shifts 👍
Question: When you're showing the pressure plate, there are different colors. When I look at the setup graphic, it's orange on the left foot but not on the right foot. This leads me to believe there is more weight on the left than on the right foot. It says it's 50/50 so the colors must mean something else?
Think of the colors as what’s happening in each foot and the % bars as what’s happening between the feet.
@@AthleticMotionGolf What does that mean? The darker the color should mean more pressure. That pro golfer looks more 60/40 not 50/50. You’ll have to elaborate more on that if that’s not the case. Great video though always love these.
The colors are the relative distribution of the pressure but only in that foot. Like there's a color coded map Legend for each foot. Each color means have Blue pressure here, yellow pressure here, red (most) pressure here. BUT Blue pressure for the left foot does not equal blue pressure in the right foot.
Why? Because the pressure amounts are changing all the time (50/50 to 75/25 and so on)
Imagine if there was one color system for both feet. It would become nonsense because you'd need to have a different color legend for each combination of pressure distribution between the feet.
@@cameronmciver7588 thanks! I think I understand now. They should remove those colors then and just show pressure numbers then. People will naturally assume the colors mean pressure between the feet
@@strongisland7015 what Cameron said 👍
Hi guys! Great video! 16.7" from inside of heel to heel or center of heel mass to center of heel mass? Some designator like the balls or a bracket would visually help. Thank you!
Center to center 👍
Loved this, I have a longer broad body and shorter arms and legs for my height. How does that affect my stance width? My instep is under my arm pits and if I go wider I feel like I can’t turn or move weight at all .
Your hips should be the starting point. Have your feet a little wider than your hips so your legs have a little angle to them at address.
I enjoyed this video but I’m struggling to put it together with some of the points you’ve made recently about shoulders and tilts.
If I shift pressure into my lead side whilst rotating the shoulders on that crescent plane, it chucks the club out in front of me too early in the downswing. I’ve seen other people talk about shifting into the front toes with back to target then rotating open whilst pushing into the heel but your shallowing video seemed to say that was incorrect.
It seems like shifting pressure into the front of the lead foot encourages shallowing but also early extension and an open face whilst shifting the left side back away from the ball encourages over the top movements and pulls/hooks.
Again, I’ve seen other coaches say pull the lead side back but compensate for the over-plane move that creates by adding side tilt but you’ve called that out to be incorrect too.
How does a pro stitch all this together such that they shift that lead side away from the ball early but without going over-plane?
Let me add a quick note/observation/suggestion. I would love to see a double screen of the player and the foot pressures (either static or in motion) so that we can see these together. The description is good, but it helps me to see it all together.
Can doing a small trail foot heel lift before taking the club back help with doing the initial shift away from the ball?
Yessir
I've noticed a lot of pros keeping their trail heel down or very close to the ground at impact. I've always gotten my heel high much earlier in the downswing. It would seem that I'm lightening that foot nicely, but I'm wondering if the lifting of the heel might be excessive. The only pro I see doing what I do is Justin Thomas.
And, to a degree, Scheffler. I'm curious because I'm tempted to stick a wedge face under my foot and try to keep it down until impact. But I'm wary of the concept, maybe doing more harm than good.
@@winstonsmith11 yeah, don’t do that lol. Wry few have their heel on the ground at impact. It takes insane hip mobility to rotate the hips well with the trail heel in the ground. Work on the in between of those two extremes 👍
2 minutes ago?? It's hot off the press!! 😊 I've always felt that if my hands, feet and head are doing the right thing, the body will produce the "positions" need for good ball striking. (Along with rhythm)
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Awesome stuff! So, in your opinion does proper footwork lead to good swing mechanics or does good swing mechanics lead to proper footwork. Asking for a friend:)
Tell your friend 😉that proper footwork leads to a more dynamic swing. It's possible to have good mechanics without good dynamics (speed). We call that the "pro shop swing" lol.
@@AthleticMotionGolf Thanks! Makes a lot of sense. You guys are awesome.
What is the average weight distribution percentages from P1 to P9?
This is pressure not weight. At some points in the swing they move together and at some points they move independently. ~70 on trail leg at 3, then ~70 on lead leg at 5 are the main ones to work on.
I don't know where and how many sensors you have on the feet for gears, but what does that show you about foot flare at address for the majority of pros, and pros vs ams. Since foot flare effects both where pressure is on the feet, and for how long as well as how much, when, and how fast and what direction(s) the hips it is worth mentioning. On another note in their primes Rory, Greg Norman, Nick Faldo, and Ernie Els (when he was setting course/tournament records in Europe in the late 90s). All had their feet flat on the ground still at impact suggesting that they weren't taking pressure off that right heel, and their right hips weren't jutting out toward the ball/target line as fast as you guys are showing your pro doing.
We use force plates to measure what the feet are doing. Pros typically have a small amount of flare with each foot. The hose player do not have both feet flat at impact, some famously not so. What the foot looks like on video is NOT proof of anything regarding pressure location. We aren’t showing pro hips in this video so I’m not sure what you’re referencing. If you can clarify that would be helpful.
@@AthleticMotionGolf The more foot flare present the more hips (and to a smaller degree the knees) have freedom to turn rotationally over the heel, and the more overall rotation they can make. The less foot flare the more rotation is restricted, and the more likely the hips/pelvis is to tip up and down relative to the ground. (I'm guessing you'd see this difference reflected in gear numbers).
If the hips rotated deeper with less resistance the brain isn't as eager to relieve the pressure, and the more time (and space) is required for it to return back to (and pass) its starting position. The deeper the hips have turned the longer pressure is likely to remain on the rear foot, and the less hip turn and more restriction on the hip the sooner the pressure is likely to come off the rear foot. (Guessing that would be reflected by readings from the pressure plate(s).
What happened to the response to Mike malaska video?
We’ve never made a response to one of Mike’s videos.
The research of the German golf teacher Pat Kuck shows, that half of the players have their natural balance points slightly nearer to the balls of the feet (DJ, Koepka), the other half slightly nearer to the heels (Tiger, Nicklaus) and therefore have a different kind of weight shift.
Do you have other data?
I’m not aware of any research those players have been a part of, especially Tiger and Jack. The ONLY way to know what those players do is to have them on force plates. We’ve captured and worked with top pros for a number of years now which is how we collect the data we’ve been able to share.
Ok. When you make the balance test at set up pushing against the chest you will instantly remark, that one half of the players fall behind, when they have their weight on the balls, the other ones when they have it on the heels. This is a test from TaiChi.
@@detlefstronk8912 we don’t have any experience measuring what happens in TaiChi, but we have a ton with what happens in a golf swing.
@@AthleticMotionGolfok; please then only tell me, whether your data show, that the big majority of players have their weight nearer to the balls than the middle of the feet.
@@detlefstronk8912 That is correct
Jack Nicolas was taught to, FEEL the swing, in the FEET 👣.. ..Jack Grout instructor
I would add, if your setup is correct, the biomechanical parts of the body, build from the feet 🐾 up, thru the body, into the hands, to 2 fingers.....
This is exactly what athletes do naturally, I’ve seen pro soccer, MLB and NHL players take up golf and this pivot is immediate.
I've been watching another channel “good golf coaching” some of his thoughts differ from this or I'm not understanding either lol .not just about the footwork
@@jvitali60 there will probably always be differences of ideas when they’re based on opinions or 2D observations. That describes golf instruction since it became a profession. That’s also the very reason we rely on objective measured info 🤓
For the foot pressure images, If you are a left-handed player and watching this from a cell phone or tablet put the screen on lock and invert the screen 180°
After you’ve done that, imagine you are mirroring a right handed player on the driving range.
Thank you for the video and great information.
Not enough golfers bend and the ankle/shins. This is the first bend point and the most important for me.
For me too👊
* Excluding Scotty Schef
How do you suspect he’d be different?
@@AthleticMotionGolf Well, the end would look like a disco with all the reds blues and greens everywhere
Learning a new neuromotor pattern correctly like this can be a challenge without some form of accurate feedback. The first person who can create a poor man’s boditrak will probably win the PGA show gadget of the year award. Closest thing so far is the e bell. Doing it correctly is kinda like riding a bicycle. You fall and fail until suddenly you get it. Good description but I suspect that the you will need to revisit this. How about a more fluid motion drill with a weight or kettle bell etc?
What club is the pro using in the example?
Always a 7 iron unless otherwise noted 👍
At set up left foot was more on the red side , still 50/50??
Answered on Rob’s question 👍
I can use you with the shovel on the farm. When I play golf I use a golf club. Although some if the stories players tell me to put a shovel in my bag. Will the shovel count as a 15th club.
Please don't take me serious.
A lot of teachers advocate getting your weight to the inside of the back foot during the backswing. Can you comment on this a bit further.
We’ve seen a lot of pressure recommendations come from folks who have no way of measuring pressure or ground forces. We see it every day. Of the small percentage who can measure it, an even smaller percentage have measured tour pros. Then an even smaller percentage have worked with those pros to make improvements to their footwork. All that has to be factored into what’s advocated, not just with this, but with any application of data.
I thought you guys were going to show dr kwon step drill as a good way to practice this
Lots of good ways to practice this 👍
I appreciate the videos but I find it so funny the way stuff like this is explained like saying it's starting to shift this way or that way when it is less than a split second. So nothing is starting to shift, it just shifts or pressure moves instantly. People try to make these moves in slow motion and it just messes them up. Royalty
I think I get what you're saying, but nothing happens or moves instantly lol. It has a start and that start can be learned slowly. We do it every day.
You guys keep making references to shoelaces and I'm over here scratching my head in the 23rd Century with BOA ratchets out the wazoo.
Love the boa’s. You gotta think old school on this one though 😜
A lot like a figure 8
i mean what a terrible video, skips like 80% of the swing
Really? We cover footwork for setup, backswing, transition, and downswing. If you think that's only 20% of the swing, math might not be your strong suit.
@@AthleticMotionGolf to not show the entire swing all in 1 slowmotion video is a L. You are only giving us bits and pieces. But theres plenty of other vids that show it that I watched after
@@AthleticMotionGolf the golf swing is 1 continuous motion, not 4 pitstops
need to see the whole thing in motion
@@sleepyhollow2 bits and pieces? We literally cover, in detail, what happens at each phase of the swing. You might not like it, but it’s silly to say we’ve left 80% out or are only showing bits and pieces.