The Missile Does NOT Know Where It Is | VTOL VR: Electronic Warfare & Tomcat Update
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ธ.ค. 2023
- Man, I'm loving this update already. VTOL VR suffered from a bit of a 'perfection problem' where many weapons, especially used against the AI, would have a 99% kill rate. Now with jamming and the new radar mechanics, things feel way more chaotic and fun again, with a lot of thought going into the actual EWar layer of combat. I can't wait to play the campaign.
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The missile doesn't know where it is, it doesn't know how it is, it just knows where It wants to go: Home
The missile has PTSD
And home is civilian air traffic
“Wait…is that our missile?”
“Oh shit…oh god…NO! Go away, don’t come home! Who programmed that thing?!”
@@KleinesStein”FATHER I WANT TO GO HOME”
Everybody asks Where is the missile
But no one ever asks How is the missile
*Deploys a F-45 decoy*
Enemy: Bogie heading 24-
*Transforms into a tanker*
Enemy: W h a t
Haha! You thought it was a Boeing E-7A Wedgetail AWACS, but it was me, Dio!
@6:09
*Crimson 1:* "Me and you now. No distractions, no wingmen, no war. Just me and you, whoever wins-"
*Pilot:* "Crimson 1, get outta here, this game has actual physics!"
*Crimson 1:* "-is the best pilot." *wings snap off*
*Pilot:* "..."
*Crimson 1:* "........YOU, SOLEY, ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR-" *Boom*
*Pilot:* "..hey, his engine is flying off by itself! Neat!"
0:11 Ain’t no way Rimmy has his own Prez
Now i wanna know who is his Tomboy WSO. Maybe Whisky?
@@wildranger5833Most likely.
Love the effort they put in on this. Electronic Warfare is one of those thing SIM games dont do much... because its classified. An Early 2010s F-16 is fine... except for his jamming pod. An early 2010 EA-6B Prowler ICAP (now retired) is still very classified as a whole... thus for games like DCS is not really practicable.
But VTOL VR being completely fictional and not completely "study level" managed to create a simulation of such a cool apsect of modern combat. Its so cool.
Not realistic albeit very real life inspired with the various mode of operation and of what you can do with your equipment but who cares? Its fun!
As of now VR is the only thing keeping this game from being much more popular than it is now. A Nice middleground between very complex study level stuff like DCS and arcade games is really something missing in the market right now.
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Is there non vr options
The best part is that ONE person is developing this game
It's impressive actually, so far, Aerial games (Ace Combat, War Thunder, etc. etc.) make it to where to handle a incoming missile you have to either evade to where the missile loses tracking or pop flares, but it seems with the Electronic Warfare DLC for VTOL VR, you can jam a missile to where it near misses you so you don't need to waste flares. Although not guaranteed, it's still worth the shot.
Check out Nuclear Option! Maybe that is the middleground you’re looking for.
Decoy systems are always fun to me and when combined with missle defence makes it all the more fun for me to learn about
Tfw abusing decoys to get in heater range of the fuckboy in a slick F45 who thinks he's invincible
Pubars Party is always a fun read. Wherein the US launched TALD decoys and air launched recon drones to bait out Iraqi AA in Bagdad, then followed it up with a shitload of HARMs.
The missile knows where it is at all times. The missile knows where you are at all times. The missile knows your name, rank, serial number, mother's maiden name, search history, favorite color and fursona, very little of which will be relevant except possibly in your eulogy in an increasingly small number of seconds.
The bomb doesn't know jack but it's just happy to be here.
NOT MY SEARCH HISTORY NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
depends on the bomb, GBU-38s can google that shit, but if you take away their phone they're SOL, GBU-12s can do a really good maverick impression if you hold their hand the whole time, and iron bombs can hit pretty dead on the money if you pay close attention to the CCIP/RP
Now I’m outraged that the top gun movies don’t have a scene where they sweep the wings forward for a strafing run.
Rimmy’s on the highway to the danger zone
He can be my wingman anytime!
Rumor has it the E-24 was entirely designed based on the nightmares of Hornet guys.
The missile knows where it is by subtracting from where it isn't
I think the EA-18G Growler also had issues with its radar when jamming with the AN/ALQ-99. The 54 can decently kill small targets like fighters at range, but it aint no 120C. Just remember it was built to kill bombers.
Yeah its an incredibly heavy missile, can't pull anywhere near as well as the 120 can
I think IRL the 18Gs didnt necessarily have problems with the radar, because they could run radar and jammer on different bands. The issue they had was more about limited power, so if the Jammer ran, the radar power had to be reduced and radar range was reduced.
@@termitreter6545 Ohhhh ok
The one thing I like about the new plane is that it can have a wing chopped off and you just put it in afterburner and it acts like nothing happened.
Any time you see a word or acronym prefixed with "X", it means it starts with "trans". So XMIT is transmit, XFER is transfer, etc etc.
That puts an entirely new light on the twitter renaming lol
@ 0:27
that's actually kind of important, it cuts down on the clench factor when you know that RWR MISSILE callout is your buddy's launch and not GBADS giving you an express delivery of mad-4
Yeah this is part of the reason dogfight training is still important, because it's possible all the BVR missiles get jammed and miss, so fighters will be forced to merge and settle it the old fashioned way because we haven't had enough aerial combat in the era of stealth, ECM, and AMRAAMs to know for sure if BVR combat actually will work against an enemy with good EW and good pilots. But what we do know is you can't jam 20mm Vulcan rounds.
There hasn't been a air to air (jet against jet) gun kill since the Vietnam war. You might not be able to jam 20mm rounds, but you are also never gonna get close enough for that nowadays.
You know, you never hear about electronic warfare compared to stealth in modern warfare. People say that 4th gen fighters couldn't really hope to compete in a modern enviroment of sams, but always forget about electronic warfare aircraft and jamming pods probably because its less flashy then cool stelath planes and is effective to the point that governments probably do not want to talk about it much.
Yeah someone commented the reason you don’t see electronic warfare in sims is that it’s all classified
To my understanding, Stealth is sometimes even considered to be part of Electronic Warfare. Stealth, or even just reduced radar signature (eg Eurofighter, Rafale, F-15EX) makes it harder to combat you, and any electronics warfare is so much more powerful because of that.
this is easily the coolest plane added to the game
'AWACS would be fun'
Oh fuck, if they recreate the Total Air War AWACS mode but in VR, that'd be fucking rad.
When i saw that manual my brain just went "Brain.exe has stopped working"
See, I couldn't do any of this... The (dark) urge to just say "fuckit!" And press random buttons would be too high!
The Mischief is a beauty
I must recommend Nuclear Option. It is currently pretty incomplete, but it is a fun plane game reliant on having less planes, but each of them being different, and they recently added an ewar plane
You love to see it! Thanks Rimmy!
8:20 imagine taxing to the taxiway and not just slamming the throttles all the way forwards from the hangar
The thing is really fun to fly, great vehicle
This game might convince me alone to buy a VR headset
"The missile has no fucking idea where it is"
Well the last time I was just early Armageddon wasn’t infested with Orks
Rimmy is even more ready to be a pilot in WW3
the enemy EWF thinking he's untouchable when I show him an AIRS-T
Well that was glorious
our favorite austro kangorooian vtuber has gifted us a video! praisw be!
5:52
i saw that the new plane features a updated stores jettison system but dint expect this
This was Great 👍
The speed with which I would buy an in-depth 4+ crew fully featured multiplayer intigrated AWACS DLC. Bruh.
thanks CAW for the manual
Happy Late Birthday F-14 Tomcat!
Oh Hell Yeah
Amazing Work
Now Where’s Prez When You Need Her
What VR headset do you have? It has really good tracking! I have the Rift S, and a lot of times it's hard to be precise with VR games, especially VTOL
Finally time to catch up with the videos
Home on jam has entered the chat.
In my head that bobblehead is Prez from PW
As a EWO I scream as I have to micro so many jammers and decoys to then die because my pilot slams into the ground
I know Zacho has a way of doing it but it would be really cool if the devs implemented a flatscreen mode for this game.
We have completed the holy trifecta…
RIO (REE-OH)
WSO (WIZ-OH)
EWO (EE-WO)
Hmm these warthunder leaks are gonna make some really immersive VR sims
So VTOL VR is slowly becoming DCS 😂
As much as I like DCS, VTOL VR in fact has vastly superior EW simulation^^
Me watching this in a cessna 152 wishing I was flying a tomcat
oh yes, 80 pages pdf on how to do a cold start, that's the stuff bring me back to dcs 🤣
To be fair, only one or two pages are the cold start procedure. The other 78 pages are all the tech that's been jammed into the plane, and weapons it mounts. Each seat also has a different layout and control scheme, so needs their own layout maps.
Fucking incredible title, laughed my ass off.
Maybe now the reformers will realize what they're missing out on.
*tomcot noises*
I. DONT. HAVE. ENOUGH. MONEY ;(
neat
My brain cannot comprehend the interface :|
I think its high time for a new class on fighter pilot jargon 😅
What’s the difference between the jam modes (noise/DRFM etc) and when should I use them?
From the manual (Paraphrased as I remember it):
Noise is a fairly catch all EW method, that just causes static in the band you're targeting, directed in a cone towards your target and anything around them. This can disrupt comms and GPS in the low bands, or mask contacts in the static in the mid band. However, it's weak to missiles launched in HoJ (Home-on-Jam) mode, which tells them to find and ride the jamming beam back to it's source like a laser guided missile in reverse; which also doesn't trip RWR.
DRFM is a directed high energy signal focused on a single receiver. It'll cause you to appear as a swarm of contacts, the amount of which depends on how much power you're putting into the signal. Does nothing in low band, and when set to high band while targeting a radar that's hard locked onto you it'll go into a special mode that tricks the hostile radar into thinking you're somewhere else, thus breaking the lock. Can also confuse active radar missiles, or entirely disable semi-active missiles as shown in the video here. Also weak to HoJ missle attacks.
SAS mode is a decoy spoofing mode. Your onboard systems will fabricate a radar signature of your choosing, and broadcast it at a much higher power than your own plane's normal signature, thus causing you to appear as the chosen aircraft. However, if not manually tuned for signal strength, you can give yourself away, as it wouldn't be normal for a small stealth helicopter to appear on radar from 100km out, 10kft in the air.. Lower the power to that pod to reduce the broadcasted signal and lower the range it's seen from.
Such a clear explanation thank you so much :)
bro i just started on vtol vr and i dont know what the hell im doing so could you make a video of how to use missles or somthing or just tell me how to use them
The missile doesn’t know where it is because it doesn’t know where it isn’t. By subtracting where it is from where it isn’t, or where it isnt from where it is, it can’t obtain a difference, or deviation.
what vr googles are you using
I *really* hope they add an E-2 Hawkeye kinda plane. Just a small 1-4 person AWACS/Support Aircraft
You wanna fly with me? Could use someone who knows how the hell EW works cause after a few hours I am still clueless! lol
0:20 what is the website you went to for the manual? can you link it
Where’s that PDF file at
Hey Rimmy, I don't know if you are gonna see this. But I want to tell you about a game that comes out on the 18th of January 2024. It's a WW1 RPG turn based grand strategy game. I think it would really be your cup of tea. The Devs put a lot of thought into it and it's a really cool concept. The game is "All quiet in the trenches."
do yall also have a cap of 45 fps in multiplayer?
Where's that manual from?
Tfw no tomboy WSO
wherw i can find the manual
docs.google.com/document/d/1fM7stkRmIPnB8YuhbPtWZeSZbr9fox37vfHYbzSUmwQ/edit
Is the manual. Odd that it's a google cod, but eh
Hi
The missile does know where it is at any time. It does not know this because it does not know where it isn't. By subtracting where it isn't from where it is, or where it is from where it isn't (whichever is lesser), it does not obtain a difference, or deviation. The guidance subsystem does not use deviations to generate corrective commands to drive the missile from a position where it is to a position where it isn't, and not arriving at a position where it was, it now isn't. Consequently, the position where it isn't, is now the position that is was, and it follows that the position that it wasn't, is now the position that it is. In the event that the position that it is in is not the position that it was, the system has not acquired a variation, the variation being the difference between where the missile was, and where it isn't. If variation is considered to be a significant factor, it too may not be corrected by the GEA. However, the missile must not also know where it is. The missile guidance scenario does now work as follows. Because a variation has not modified some of the information the missile has not obtained, it is not sure where it isn't. However, it is not sure where it is, within reason, and does not know where it was. It does not now subtract where it should be from where it wasn't, or vice-versa, and by not differentiating this from the algebraic sum of where it shouldn't be, and where it was, it is not able to obtain the deviation and its variation, which is not called error.