Thank god😂My parents are rational to some extent. It really helped me become an atheist. Recently we were watching Rath Yatra and papa said, "Is not it same like children playing with dolls. It is a good timepass for elders when there was not much to do. Let them do we have only one life" I was like haww papa I knew from deep down you are an atheist.😂
@@pepe-se3trthen again, average atheist doesnt claim god does not exist. He says if evidence comes, i will believe, until then i cannot believe it. On the other hand, theism is supposed to be belief but it is growing out as a moral reality. In india, theists are claiming all kind of bullshit but without any evidence. How can you not see the difference here?
@@pepe-se3tr a rational person asks for evidence to believe there are unicorns, but till the time there is no evidence, (s)he believes that unicorns are not real. Just like an atheist believes that there are no Gods.
Black magic stories of people are usually patients who are either suffering from dissociative disorder or psychosis. Wide practice of black magic in our society became one of the reason I chose Psychiatry for residency.
Commenting on the part around 22:25 People throw this argument a lot whenever they are claiming that there were advanced technologies like flying machines and missiles and weapons of mass destruction and text which described how to build them in ancient India and everything got lost when universities of Takshashila and Nalanda got burnt, I always ask them why only useful things got burnt? We still have a shitload of useless things like all those myths like volumes and volumes of the Puranas still surviving?
“stories are the invisible giant monsters that are fighting on the horizons, and they exist only inside our heads, but what to do kya Kar Sakte Hain?” - Vimoh
we can either know or not know but saying i dont know and in the same breath saying there is no god until evidenceis given says that you have now assumed there is no god which falls under knowing(cause not knowing means u dont know anything about it nor it "existing" nor it "not existing") or belief or thinking there is no god till proven , do not seek with a preconclusion whether there is god or there is no god ,about evidence for god, is there god or is there no god, do not seek evidence for something u assume because u have assumed it already and then trying to prove that is exists or doesnt exist , u already assume that there is an entity responsible for all that is happening and then try to either prove or disprove its existence,thiests trying to prove its existence, athiests trying to prove it doesnt exist both fighting for something they assume (thiests assume there is god, athiests assume there is no god). just look at the entire existence ,in which we are nowhere ,and everything is just happening ,how is it happening lets seek without assumptions. cause u can never seek with pre made assumptions or conclusions, if u do seek then it just means u never were 100 percent sure on ur assumption which just says u were dishonest not with anybody else but within yourself.the integrity of u as a person saying there is a god or ur integrity as a person saying there is no god is in questions not to anybody else but to yourself. your just finding comfort in assuming something as u feel fear in not assuming anything. we can assume anything we want in the world, does not mean its the reality, i have nothing agianst ur assumptions it is just that u must understand that they are ur assumptions not the truth ,when we understand that our assumptions has nothing to do with reality then we will truly seek
I can explain this in simple words . A. Atheists do not have the burden to prove that God does not exist. No-one can prove the negative. It's like saying that someone has to prove unicorns do not exist. It can't be done. B. Atheists do not know what God means. There's no universal definition. Similarly even theists do not know what God is because there's no consensus. C. Atheist/Rational/Scientific people do not have a point of reference for God , other than the fictional stories. Surprisingly we actually have a point of reference for a unicorn. Because it's a modified / fictional Horse . We know what a horse is , we know what a horn on the head might look like.
Logic and science has a similar basis , it's a try and test methodology. When logic assumes stuff , it's always based on something that we already knew , or something for which we have a point of reference. For which we can duplicate the results. And so far, in this entire human history, there has been no point of reference, evidence or consensus of God. Therefore I can conclude that there is no god. If at any moment we are PROVEN wrong in the future, we'll be happy to hear. We will have so much to learn , we can learn the origin of the universe and why it exists. And I'll hit that God on the face for making Adipurush.
Oh my "non-existing" god. 🤦🏻♂️ Dude, you still stuck on that. Are you keep imposing what you think is correct or you even try to understand what other people say? I mean, seriously...if thats what you trying to do then why bother barking in public platform because clearly you don't want a conversation or even intend to listen to others. But if you do want conversation, at least have ability to "understand" what others say. Ask for elaboration if you didn't understand something. Why shout same thing again and again?
@@warrior_of_liberation i understand what they say and all im seeing is a flawed way of seeking,, both thiests athiests two sides of the same coin two people of the same boat, even agnostic athiests and agnostic thiests ,,,agnostic thiests and agnostic athiests are two sides of the same coin they both each have two assumptions either they say god is there or god is not there and the other assumption is that we can never know about it ,, but all is just our assumptions IM JUST SAYING WHY ASSUME AT ALL WHEN OUR ASSUMPTIONS ARNT REALITY
@@puneetsaklani7516 actually about the definition there is a universal definition which is "one who is responsible for everything that is happening and everything that is not happening" and yes im saying the same thing why try to prove an assumption? assumptions has nothign to do with reality as such. no one has to prove unicorns exist or doesnt exist because its just our assumption we are just tryign to play with our own assumptions , all reference for god is just cultural nonsense largly nothing to do with god at all
Thank god😂My parents are rational to some extent. It really helped me become an atheist. Recently we were watching Rath Yatra and papa said, "Is not it same like children playing with dolls. It is a good timepass for elders when there was not much to do. Let them do we have only one life" I was like haww papa I knew from deep down you are an atheist.😂
a rational person asks for evidence and an athiest doesnt have any evidence both of them are different
@@pepe-se3trthen again, average atheist doesnt claim god does not exist. He says if evidence comes, i will believe, until then i cannot believe it. On the other hand, theism is supposed to be belief but it is growing out as a moral reality. In india, theists are claiming all kind of bullshit but without any evidence. How can you not see the difference here?
@@pepe-se3tr a rational person asks for evidence to believe there are unicorns, but till the time there is no evidence, (s)he believes that unicorns are not real. Just like an atheist believes that there are no Gods.
@@gurnoorsingh2214I'm an atheist so a level that, I say, there will never come any evidence 😂😂
Black magic stories of people are usually patients who are either suffering from dissociative disorder or psychosis.
Wide practice of black magic in our society became one of the reason I chose Psychiatry for residency.
Commenting on the part around 22:25
People throw this argument a lot whenever they are claiming that there were advanced technologies like flying machines and missiles and weapons of mass destruction and text which described how to build them in ancient India and everything got lost when universities of Takshashila and Nalanda got burnt, I always ask them why only useful things got burnt? We still have a shitload of useless things like all those myths like volumes and volumes of the Puranas still surviving?
I find it difficult to deal with the general attitude that its ok religion brings solace or comfort to some. But drinking also brings comfort.
vimoh is chaddi analogy gets me everytime 😅
“stories are the invisible giant monsters that are fighting on the horizons, and they exist only inside our heads, but what to do kya Kar Sakte Hain?”
- Vimoh
1:12:05
we can either know or not know but saying i dont know and in the same breath saying there is no god until evidenceis given says that you have now assumed there is no god which falls under knowing(cause not knowing means u dont know anything about it nor it "existing" nor it "not existing") or belief or thinking there is no god till proven , do not seek with a preconclusion whether there is god or there is no god ,about evidence for god, is there god or is there no god, do not seek evidence for something u assume because u have assumed it already and then trying to prove that is exists or doesnt exist , u already assume that there is an entity responsible for all that is happening and then try to either prove or disprove its existence,thiests trying to prove its existence, athiests trying to prove it doesnt exist both fighting for something they assume (thiests assume there is god, athiests assume there is no god). just look at the entire existence ,in which we are nowhere ,and everything is just happening ,how is it happening lets seek without assumptions. cause u can never seek with pre made assumptions or conclusions, if u do seek then it just means u never were 100 percent sure on ur assumption which just says u were dishonest not with anybody else but within yourself.the integrity of u as a person saying there is a god or ur integrity as a person saying there is no god is in questions not to anybody else but to yourself. your just finding comfort in assuming something as u feel fear in not assuming anything. we can assume anything we want in the world, does not mean its the reality, i have nothing agianst ur assumptions it is just that u must understand that they are ur assumptions not the truth ,when we understand that our assumptions has nothing to do with reality then we will truly seek
I can explain this in simple words .
A. Atheists do not have the burden to prove that God does not exist. No-one can prove the negative. It's like saying that someone has to prove unicorns do not exist. It can't be done.
B. Atheists do not know what God means. There's no universal definition. Similarly even theists do not know what God is because there's no consensus.
C. Atheist/Rational/Scientific people do not have a point of reference for God , other than the fictional stories. Surprisingly we actually have a point of reference for a unicorn. Because it's a modified / fictional Horse . We know what a horse is , we know what a horn on the head might look like.
Logic and science has a similar basis , it's a try and test methodology. When logic assumes stuff , it's always based on something that we already knew , or something for which we have a point of reference. For which we can duplicate the results. And so far, in this entire human history, there has been no point of reference, evidence or consensus of God. Therefore I can conclude that there is no god. If at any moment we are PROVEN wrong in the future, we'll be happy to hear. We will have so much to learn , we can learn the origin of the universe and why it exists. And I'll hit that God on the face for making Adipurush.
Oh my "non-existing" god. 🤦🏻♂️
Dude, you still stuck on that. Are you keep imposing what you think is correct or you even try to understand what other people say?
I mean, seriously...if thats what you trying to do then why bother barking in public platform because clearly you don't want a conversation or even intend to listen to others.
But if you do want conversation, at least have ability to "understand" what others say. Ask for elaboration if you didn't understand something.
Why shout same thing again and again?
@@warrior_of_liberation i understand what they say and all im seeing is a flawed way of seeking,, both thiests athiests two sides of the same coin two people of the same boat, even agnostic athiests and agnostic thiests ,,,agnostic thiests and agnostic athiests are two sides of the same coin they both each have two assumptions either they say god is there or god is not there and the other assumption is that we can never know about it ,, but all is just our assumptions IM JUST SAYING WHY ASSUME AT ALL WHEN OUR ASSUMPTIONS ARNT REALITY
@@puneetsaklani7516 actually about the definition there is a universal definition which is "one who is responsible for everything that is happening and everything that is not happening" and yes im saying the same thing why try to prove an assumption? assumptions has nothign to do with reality as such. no one has to prove unicorns exist or doesnt exist because its just our assumption we are just tryign to play with our own assumptions , all reference for god is just cultural nonsense largly nothing to do with god at all
Four Horsemen are actually Four Islamophobes
And what's wrong with that? They have been criticising every religion are they christianphobic too by that logic?