A Chat with Joe Abercrombie & Steven Pacey
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- I had the opportunity to host a live show with the UK's king of fantasy Joe Abercrombie and the narrator of his First Law books, Steven Pacey! This live show was for publication of THE WISDOM OF CROWDS, the last book in The Age of Madness trilogy.
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It was so fun speaking with Joe & Steven! This interview is from the live show I hosted on Sept 20th. What's your favorite book by Joe Abercrombie?
Why did you have to cut the reading?
My favourite is either The Heroes or Last Argument of Kings, though I havent finished TTWP yet and read WoC
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@@nuanceblacksywin4868 The publisher asked me to cut it, I'm not sure why but maybe just so it was exclusive to those who joined the show while it was live or maybe because of rights issues
The Heroes!
Say one thing about Abercrombie and Pacey, say that they are a great duo.
I dunno…you gotta be realistic about these things.
When you have got an audiobook to listen, its better to listen to it, than to live with the fear of it.
As my father always used to say, you can never have too many Abercrombie/Pacey audiobooks
Joe Abercrombie’s writing and Steven Pacey’s narration has absolutely spoiled me. I’m NEVER satisfied with other narrators or writers. Why? Joe’s clever writing and wicked sense of humor and Steven’s brilliant interpretations. They are both amazing!
This is actually a problem, i have a hard time picking new audiobooks now :(
They are just the best combination of author and actor ever.
Such a true problem
I get you. the books in the First Law universe are bar none the best narrated books ever. Out of the many I've listened to, anyway. I could recommend the Powder Mage books by Brian McClellan, read by Christian Rodska, though. As well as Gentleman Bastards sequence by Scott Lynch, and The Kingkiller chronicles by Patrick Rothfuss. Though I can't remember off hand who narrate the last two, they do a good job. But I always imagine anyone who liked good audiobooks have gone through those already
I agree.
They’re defiantly a rare combo!
I find that two pairs that come close are the Witcher audiobooks, which have almost as good narration but slightly inferior writing but still good writing,
And Brandon Sandersons Mistborn and Stormlight archive which have amazing writing, but slightly inferior narration, but still really good narration.
But yeah a combination that does both as amazingly as first law is basically nonexistent.
Steven is so humble, but really he is the single best audiobook narrator I have heard to this day.
Same. I drive a lot for work and have listened to hundreds of audio books. Some incredible narrators, some that bore me to no end. But I always come back to The First Law sooner or later for another experience, and it's like slipping in to a warm bath. He brings the world and the characters to life in such an immaculate way that you cannot help but be mesmerized. He really is the best of the best and the high water mark for theatrical narration.
I agree. And it’s not even close
"Jab Jab, aye, Collem?"
He absolutely is! He should play the character Glokta when a movie is made 😍
Check out cormac mccarthy audiobook of the road or no country for old men. That guy that reads them is masterful
Steven Pacey almost ruined all other audiobooks for me. He really brings the story to life. Love Joe Abercrombie so much and Steven is just the perfect cherry on top!
11 months late but try tales of dunk and egg narrated by Harry Lloyd, only audio book narration I rate above Pacey. Good listen if your a GoT fan, maybe a tad simple but enjoyable.
@@W1gglePuppy Peter Kenny does the Witcher series proper
@PhoenixFireZero there good, but Lloyd turns dunk and egg into a story your dad's reads to you before bed almost. I do love Kennys nevilen in the first witcher tho.
Absolutely...Then when you realize he is basically doing it in one take...I don't get this level of mastery. But these 2 together are the future of audiobooks. (No offense to Michael Page but I accidentally but the M. Page narrated audiobooks) I couldn't get through a page.
Agreed, the only comparable narrator is Peter Kenny from the Witcher
I tell you what - these guys are the f*cken 'A' team. Joe Abercrombie and Steven Pacey, what an absolutely sensational pairing. It just doesn't get any better. The Age of Madness trilogy is some of the best fantasy fiction ever produced.
I went from thinking “Okay, I’ve read The Blade Itself, and it’s good…but I don’t *get* it.” Listening to the audiobooks now and I’m like “OH. I GET IT NOW.” Phenomenal work by Pacey and I notice so many snippets of amazing writing I didn’t when I read it.
Oh man, I've had Pacey's voice in my ear for all of First Law and it's incredible seeing him out of character(s). His voice is pretty much how I think God's voice would sound like. Fantastic narrator.
True story, My wife actually sat me down to have an intervention about the amount of time I am listening to these audiobooks. Two masters working together to create a masterpiece.
Hearing Steven Pacey narrate these books was the first time I've ever viewed narration as Art. He is amazing.
I love how Steven really brings out the humor that’s on the page. So often I find myself laughing at the way he delivers a characters inner monologue. And each character has a different rhythm, just like on the page. Truly an amazing combo.
If they ever do a visual adaptation of the First Law series, Steven needs to have a cameo.
It would be cool. Just like Roy Dotrice (narrator of ASOIAF) was in season 2 of GoT.
Let him play Sult
I would be fine if it was a one man play with Stephen Pacey plating every character lmao.
And it needs to be Glokta! They can de-age Steven with CGI. :)
My tradition for every Abercrombie release is to read it first and then listen to the book afterwards on audiobook. This creates an event feel for me like I'm experiencing a movie of my favourite book full of surprises given the performances despite the fact that I've just experienced the book. It's Paceys performances (plus Joe's excellent writing of course) that make this possible. What makes Steven Pacey the best for me is that you aren't just getting a good clear voice reading you're getting an incredible actor capable of rich performances.
I do the same !
a late chime in but i read through all of them a year or so ago and now im rereading them via audiobook and this is exactly how i feel. pacey’s narration is perfect and abercrombie’s writing is very cinematic
Holy shit he basically does all those voices in one take while reading? I was certain that there was a lot of editing involved.
I was amazed by that as well!!! Just making TH-cam videos I often trip up and need to do multiple takes with my voice lines. His skill is pretty incredible, as I'm sure many other narrators need to revise and edit a lot
I had no doubt that I would continue reading Abercrombie. Because of course I will, I love the First Law trilogy. Want to get into Age of Madness soon as well as the Shattered sea series. But hearing Steven talking, I feel like I need to find audiobooks narrated by him. He Sounds amazing, and I have the highest respect for artists like him. What a legend.
Great interview!
Steven Pacey's narration is 2rd to none. Hiw he does so many voices and makes them all unique is beyond me
Was there ever a live reading recorded? I'd love to see Pacey inhabit those characters.
What a great interview! Such a huge Steven Pacey fan and I was so glad to finally get to see/hear the man behind the best audio books I have ever had the privilege of listening to. This is one of those unbelievable combinations of talent that is hard to compare to any other art that is such a perfect marriage of writing and performance powerhouses. I am so jealous that you got to be a part of this conversation, congrats Jay, happy for you!
I totally agree! I was also so impressed Steven basically reads it straight through without a ton of editing. I always thought there were many points of splicing together audio parts. The fact he can switch voices so often is amazing!
@@annas1197 In my mind I honestly thought that they would spend hours on end doing just the lines for specific characters and then it was all done in the editing booth to make the lines show up at the right point in the audio book. The fact that he can switch between those voices as he just reads through the book from to back is mind blowing. So impressive.
Watch seasons 3 and 4 of Blake's 7, you'll see him as a young man with curly hair.
Jay dropping S tier videos left and right. hope this video is the one taking you to 46m
Just finished my second listen through of all nine books. I love the books, but Pacey's narration lifts them even higher. Every character is brought to life in my mind, and the story flows through me with his wonderful voice. I've listened to a lot of audiobooks and for me Pacey is the complete master of his craft. Also I loved him in Blake's 7!
Steven is a pretty cool dude nice to discover him today
Abercrombie and Steven Pacey are my favorite author + voice actor. Such a perfect combination.
What a great opportunity to interview these gentlemen. Their working together is a match made in heaven
I watched this live on Zoom, was pretty epic when Pacey did the reading.
Love this. Wish I could have seen Steven narrating. Can't find footage of him narrating First Law anywhere
Steven, you are the best voice actor ever! So good
this is exactly what I needed after finishing WoC this morning before switching gears and delving into some military fantasy. Thanks brother! you're making my day here
Military fantasy? What books would fall in this genre?
@@AdoreYouInAshXI Malazan, Black Company, Shadow Campaigns by Django Wexler, Powder Mage. Surely many others but I'm pretty new to the subgenre. Malazan got me hooked.
Also worth mentioning Bernard Cornwell. Not fantasy but good military fiction and both his big series are excellent TV shows.
@@darkportents9835 Thanks for the suggestions, I'll check them out. I just couldn't do Malazan personally. Gardens of the Moon was a mess for me. People say it gets better, but it wasn't for me. I'll definitely check the others out though.
@@AdoreYouInAshXI same here, couldn’t do it at all. And I’m a hard core fantasy and military fan. I got 3 books in and still couldn’t do it, so don’t feel too bad.
I’m so bummed that the live reading was cut!!
Wow!! What a great video!! With an amazing author on ur channel! 🍁😊📖🍂
Thank you! It was so fun talking with both of them 😄
So cool hearing from Steven. I just finished my second listen of all the audiobooks and still can't believe how good he is.
As amazing as this interview was, your editing manages to make it even better.
Thank you so much for sharing this Jay!
Steven Pacey doing the First Law series is the best audiobook narrator I've ever listened to.
I always thought that Jim Dale was the best narrator ever… then I heard Steven Pacey. His Glokta alone makes makes him top 3
Pacey is pretty damn genius but the fact that he is as humble as he is striking. I've heard a couple of inteviews of them together and he not only makes Joe better but he does the same w/interviewers, he'll ask a topical poignant question and give the glory to the interviewer. Special dude.
I legit read books just because steven pacey narrated, thats just how much of a delight it is listening to him
So true, I just look for books narrated by him and he never fails to bring characters to life. I even had a dream about him half way through Department Q!!!!
Same
I’m so thankful for joe and Steven. Steven I think is very underrated in his part in the world of the first law. I get that not everyone listens to audiobooks and stuff but he really is one of the best at doing it. I didn’t listen to the blade itself but once I got to before they are hanged I had gotten a new job that allowed me to have headphones in while I work. It’s a stupid labour job at a tea and spice company so I’m literally just putting stickers on boxes or tea bags in slightly bigger bags all day. It’s mind numbingly boring. At first I’d listen to music but the time didn’t go by fast enough, so I decided since I didn’t have much time to read anymore anyways because of the job, that I’d listen to before they are hanged. this was only like 3 weeks ago and I’m already half done the heros. Steven keeps me so immersed, sometimes I almost don’t wanna leave work cuz I’m in the middle of such a gripping chapter. Last week I was listening to the Monza and Ganmarks duel and i swear I went ego def. Forgot reality existed completely and was 100% immersed, working on complete auto pilot. It was fantastic. Then my boss told me it was time to go home and I literally didn’t want to 😂
Steven Pacey has ruined my audiobook experience forever. because none will never beat him. And Joes dark mind and awesome story-telling is brilliant
Jonathan Keeble has a similar resonance that Pacey has. I recommend him.
Just found JA & SP last year. The best work I've enjoyed in a long time. It's almost ridiculous.
Absolute legends. I listen to Steven literally every day; I just rotate through the line up.
Great interview, Jay! I want to read more Abercrombie now! I loved The First Law and will possibly listen to it this time, Steven Pacey is so charming!
Once again, your videos are inspiring! ♡
Thank you! Yeah I'd definitely recommend the audio books, for me they really enhance the experience! The books are amazing in their own right, but Steven Pacey just adds a lot of character to it all
A great Combo. The graphics in the beginning are a complete blast. Loved it.
I wish wish wish Joe's epics were adapted for television but seriously and high budget.
His characters and story lines twists and humour if done as it comes across in the books would be a total genre defining project
The higher the budget, the worse the final result, if you look back at adaptations.
LotR and the first Star Wars trilogy both struggled from a financial perspective because of which they had to be quite inventive and put actual effort into it.
GoT was great until they rushed it and put all their money into the CGI production etc because they just had the money.
The Witcher is now being ruined as well...
The budget needs to be decent, but only decent enough and the author needs to be firmly integrated in the production to ensure that it gets done and delivered the right way.
While reading Wisdom of Crowds I thought it was clearly inspired by French and Russian revolutions. But also I couldn't help thinking how some moments resembled events of Ukrainian Revolution in 2014 (more in spirit of course). Probably because I experienced that one firsthand. The fact that it spoke to me and evoked those memories and emotions is yet another testament to how well it's written.
I would've love to see him do the voices, even for just a minute
Holy cow what a chat! Considering selecting my future listens based on Steven Pacey's narration catalogue. I don't think Joes First Law series would be the same without Steven.
Thanks for this!
It's amazing what brilliant artists both Joe and Steven are...Masterful feels like too light of a word. Steven Pacey brings Joe Abercrombie's characters to life in a way that few audiobooks can match. Each book is such a treat! Thank you both for endless hours of enjoyment. I'm constantly recommending them to friends and family.
Like David Attenborough, there are almost no other voices I would rather be greeted with than Mr. Pacey's. I recently listened to Neil DeGrasse Tyson narrating some of Carl Sagan's work, and I shudder at the memory. As clever as someone may be, elocution, range, familiarity with accents, having mastery over switching between characters, having the constitution to be so prolific, and having the gift, the knack for bringing a listener in so far as he does.... Pacey has them all beat. Imagine G.Martin narrated his novels.... gak! Then imagine Charles Dance narrated them. What a world of difference. Mr. Pacey has endowed an already legendary set of literature with an equally great accolade of being the best narrated and acted characters I've ever heard. Hats off to both Abercrombie and Pacey.
My only experience with Joe's books comes from the audiobooks, and Pacey's performance makes them endlessly re-listenable.
That was fantastic! The conversation flew so naturally. You're a great interviewer Jay.
Thank you for posting this! So, as y’all probably know Roy Dotrice, who did an outstanding job narrating the Game of Thrones books, has sadly passed. I’m more and more convinced that Steven Pacey would be one of the best choices to narrate the next Game of Thrones books (if they every come out). There’s a lot of subtlety in Abercrombie’s writing and Pacey not only picks up on it, but performs it very well in his voice acting. I found that Andy Serkis had good voices for Tolkien’s books, but the subtlety and subtext were not brought out well by him.
Who do y’all think would be good to narrate Winds of Winter, etc? My pick would be Pacey.
I had a smile on my face from start to finish of this video. Loved it 👌
I just started with the First Law Trilogy on audiobook and I’m loving it. Can’t wait to binge listen to it at work this next week.
how is it even possible that steven paceys real speaking voice doesn't remind me of ANY of the first law characters. This guy is a genius
Wow! Thanks so much for interviewing stephen pacey! All time favorite narrator, he is such a talent.
I loved this so much ! Joe is up there with Sanderson.Never tried the audiobook though but Steven Pacey looks like a cool guy :D
You should've showed them some of your notw dancing moves...
For real tho, what an interview. I liked the way you handled it, and how it turned out. Congrats dude!✨
Steven Pacey is one of my top narrators all time. He's so good! This is such a wonderful series!
What I really loved so far in these books was the scarcity of magic and other overpowered abilities. A potential future story where magic spills back in would work wonderfully if it was some cataclysmic event that wipes away almost all tecnology. You could end up with few or single characters that had were overpowered with high art or a lost technology like a revolver, but the vast majority are still filthty levies/thralls with spears.
I can never read the books again because of the narration by Steven, I own all of joe Abercrombie's books and will continue to buy them in person too but the audio by Steven is unbeatable.
Joe explaining his method of just dropping the reader in the midst of the story is inspiring and eye opening. I think that is why his writing flows so well and seems so fast paced
Jesus, the thought that Pacey doesn't go back and do re-takes while he's recording is baffling. To be able to nail a performance like that more or less on the spot must take monumental talent.
Joe gets well deserved credit for his characters but his dialogue is second to none . And he doesn’t get the credit for that which he really deserves
They seem like very laid back gents. Don't know much about his work, but I remember reading Half a King and enjoying it.
I’m genuinely sad that he’s talking a break from the First Law world but I’m really excited to see what else can come out of that brain of his.
Great interview dude. You nailed the essence of 2 amazing artists and didn't sound like a hack idiot. Or a repetitive fan boy.
I definitely agree that Bremer dan Gorst is the best swordsman in this whole series. One of my favorite character.
The First Law audiobook is the first ever audiobook I listened to and it started with the highest standard. I love Joe and Steven soooo much! Thank you for your talents. Just the best.
Wow what a brilliant duo these two make. I can't decide on the biggest star!
I've just finished listening to Red Country and the last chapter grounded me with the voice Steven Pacey puts to two old veterans. Just brilliant!
I ses Steven Pacey and click. What a narrator. Back in the with Guns of Navarone and Malory to The first law trilogy. ❤️❤️
I hope to one day see Joe Abercrombie play Glokta in a live action adaptation.
Abercrombie and Pacey go together better than peanut butter and jelly
Steven's Black Dow is spot on. Hilarious
This was a really great interview. Hats off to you, Jay!
This is making me nostalgic for the first law. Might be time for anither listen soon.
The “I’m quiet good at that” joke while Joe talks about failure made me loose it.
Sorry, y'all. I was chain vaping off screen and didn't know that it would be caught on video.
OOOOO I AM SOOO IN LOVE WITH HIS BOOKS - LOVE IT ‼️‼️‼️
Steven Pacey was the best choice for the Joe Abercrombie audiobooks, one has to be realistic about these things.
The best narrators for me are Pacey, Barrett ( the Drenai books ) and Harding ( reacher books ) when I reread these books those are voices I have in my head.
Just a question to Steven Pacey. I’ve listened to 5 audiobooks from the Department Q series by Jussi Alder-Olsen .. WHY didn’t you narrate all the books? There was an outcry on Audible that they couldn’t understand why it was a different narrator!! Do you read the Audible reviews?
I know this interview is not about those books, but I thought I’d chance my luck with asking Steven about that. I am physically and mentally disabled and really loved listening to Steven reading Carl, Assad, Rose and the others so perfectly! I’m scared to carry on with the series with a different narrator as being autistic I hate change. I wish you could narrate the whole series. Is there a reason why you didn’t? You are BRILLIANT.
I haven’t listed to the books being discussed in this interview, but I definitely will now! Thank you all for some insight into the process. Fenella Leigh
Steven, please don't retire before all of The First Law is done!
So glad he talked about narrating the sex scenes. Listening to the audiobooks I thought there was no way he’d be able to do all that with a straight face. Turns out, the man is a professional.
If anyone else would ever try to narrate a Joe A book that isn’t Steven pacey… body found floating by the docks.
Thank you for doing this, I thoroughly enjoyed it!
I would love for Joe to go on in this world im sooo invested it could become like a Robin Hobb world, theres something magical about returning to old buddies like Fitz and the fool and would be awesome to revists this world every now and then to see what shenanigans Bayaz is up to now or such xD
Two powerfully creative people that I hope to experience once again in the future
Steven Pacey was great as Tarrent, sadly most people never saw these old Blake's 7 shows or even heard of it.
Steven is simply excellent!
for pacey not to email JA before embarking on narrating thousands of pages and ask him how to pronounce his characters' names seems disrespectful to me.
Now I really want to see a video of Steven reading first law.
Great questions! A very enjoyable watch. Thanks
Steven did amazing with the Tomb of Sargeras audiodrama for WoW.
Great interview!
Steven Pacy is the best at what he does.
They might talk about this in the video, but I love the way Steven narrates the characters guttural noises….GarrrrrAHHH!!!
joe abercrombie is a genius!!!!!
I don’t wanna look at him cause then I realize all my favorite characters aren’t real 😭
I have not read First law trilogy yet but am eager to read it...Dark tower series comes first
I am so mad you cut out the reading. :(
Thanks for doing this!
Great interview, man. Well done!