I love it when you do interviews like this! You’re really building a community between fantasy authors and their readers with this kind of stuff and it’s just awesome
"I wisely started with a map, and made the story fit (generally with meticulous care for distances). The other way about lands one in confusions and impossibilities, and in any case it is weary work to compose a map from a story - as I fear you have found." -Tolkien haha
I loved Evan's point about his books being largely single POV and how many problems that inherently solves. It makes such a huge difference in regards to focus and pacing, and it's amazing how difficult it is to find a single POV fantasy book that isn't YA!
I started First Law knowing that it's very character driven, with no major focus on the story - I thougth I give it a try but I didn't expected anything. It turned out that I LOVE it, it is now one of my favorite series and it has one of the best character (if not the best for me) I ever read. Somehow it is my cup of tea.. I don't know how that happened.
The highlight of an abercrombie book and what I've learned is possible from him is successful destruction of a character. I used to think destruction of a character was wrong. But then along came Nicomo Cosca. Has an incredible character arc. Evolves and grows into one of my most favourite and best characters by the end of Best served cold. But his character in red country is just the natural progression of that man. And works soooo well
@@judahfade1003 and loving then Hating him is completely natural. Coz the very same attributes that made him a hero and made him lovable, make him a villain Coz its all those attributes taken to its extreme. He liked money, and gambling and drinking. That's nice. But the like evolves to obsession and becomes evil. If a character doesn't know their limits they become evil. And abercrombie is a genius at writing exactly that
I don't care what anyone says, I rooted for the true hero of the two main trilogies, the payoff when he finally shows up to "save the day" near the end is just incredible. You have to give it to him, he might be a heartless bastard but maybe that's what it takes to beat the immortal immoral monopoly guy, and that he does, at least for a time. Jab jab, Yoru Sulfer, Jab Jab!!!
Awesome! I found The Blade Itself on a bookself at a holiday home in England. I called the reception to ask if I could have the book, and now it sits comfortably on my self. 😎
While I don't necessarily disagree I would say that Sanderson and Abercrombie are as good as each other but radically different in their writing and approach.
This was a great interview, Daniel! It’s so much fun to hear both Joe and Evan speak, this joint interview style was great fun. And you did such a great job moderating the discussion! Interviews on your channel are really more like conversations and I love that. Looking forward to your future interviews!
These interviews are great! I can’t imagine the pressure you must have to interview big authors. I like how you are able to keep the conversation moving smoothly and add some humor without going to far. The questions were really good too.
Well this convinced me to try both of their books Evan Winter asked very thoughtful, considered questions. Joe answered with fun clever quips, I'm guessing he writes good dialogue.
Jezal had a lot of growth in first law. Not a stagnant character at all. Same thing with his best friend and sister who navigate their relationship and manage their life in the social structure.
That’s what I was thinking! I feel l like Joe hinted at new books set in the same world in the future and I can’t wait! Maybe a new series or stand-alones? Who knows
i love this, the banter the chemistry, joe is my fav author of all time, no one writes like he does, the witcher series captures a bit of that tone, but it's not as good as first law, im so sick of pg-13 YA fantasy where bad things get wrapped in bubble wrap and the heroes always win, abercrombie and grrm are great
Lord Grimdark and Lord Winter...there has got to be a story to write with those names 🤔. What names would other authors have (Sanderson, Butcher, etc.)? I'll see if I can make a story from them ✍
Joe somehow feels like a character of his own book to me
Haha. I can imagine that, he definitely carries the humor from his books to interviews 😆
"My joiner will visit you with his woodworking implements" was very much like that
It's Joe's world and we are just living in it.
After a long, crap day at a crap job seeing two favourite authors chatting and obviously having a good time is priceless. Thanks, Daniel 👍
What’s your job?
@@callum7081 I'm a maintenance engineer. Like the job, not so crazy on the workload ;)
I love it when you do interviews like this! You’re really building a community between fantasy authors and their readers with this kind of stuff and it’s just awesome
i love it
"I wisely started with a map, and made the story fit (generally with meticulous care for distances). The other way about lands one in confusions and impossibilities, and in any case it is weary work to compose a map from a story - as I fear you have found." -Tolkien haha
I loved Evan's point about his books being largely single POV and how many problems that inherently solves. It makes such a huge difference in regards to focus and pacing, and it's amazing how difficult it is to find a single POV fantasy book that isn't YA!
aye
I legit read the Red Rising trilogy in a week because of this. Can also be considered Fantasy from book 2 onwards btw if you haven't checked it out.
@@malsummers6515 I have read it! Definitely similar to Rage of Dragons in that way
Robin Hobb does this in Farseer books
Check out the crowfall trilogy!
This livestream should have been called the Meeting of the Lords XD
The Council has gathered
...of chaos
The House of Lords
I never read Abercrombie, but if Evan Winter likes it I probably need to give it a try. While waiting for the Burning Book 3 :) so excited for that 😍
Oh you definitely should read Abercrombie work he definitely gets better with each book
You should start with the shattered sea trilogy that was the first books from him that I read
@@angelaholmes8888 no start with First Law
@@cap-tavating5862 I already have finished reading the first law books I read one in the series once a month
I started First Law knowing that it's very character driven, with no major focus on the story - I thougth I give it a try but I didn't expected anything. It turned out that I LOVE it, it is now one of my favorite series and it has one of the best character (if not the best for me) I ever read. Somehow it is my cup of tea.. I don't know how that happened.
The highlight of an abercrombie book and what I've learned is possible from him is successful destruction of a character. I used to think destruction of a character was wrong. But then along came Nicomo Cosca.
Has an incredible character arc. Evolves and grows into one of my most favourite and best characters by the end of Best served cold. But his character in red country is just the natural progression of that man. And works soooo well
very well said
"I will not be disappointed again!!"
For real, I loved him in Best Served Cold, and then hated him in Red Country. His conclusion was very satisfying.
@@judahfade1003 and loving then Hating him is completely natural. Coz the very same attributes that made him a hero and made him lovable, make him a villain
Coz its all those attributes taken to its extreme.
He liked money, and gambling and drinking. That's nice. But the like evolves to obsession and becomes evil.
If a character doesn't know their limits they become evil. And abercrombie is a genius at writing exactly that
I just finished the Wisdom of Crowds and I'm devastated in the best possible way. Looking forward to whatever Joe puts out next.
Being a Joe Abercrombie fan is like being a battered housewife. You love him even when he's beating you down.
Wtf was the very last little part of the book? Holy shit!
I don't care what anyone says, I rooted for the true hero of the two main trilogies, the payoff when he finally shows up to "save the day" near the end is just incredible. You have to give it to him, he might be a heartless bastard but maybe that's what it takes to beat the immortal immoral monopoly guy, and that he does, at least for a time. Jab jab, Yoru Sulfer, Jab Jab!!!
Whaatt my 2 favourite authors of the decade! Best interview ever
"How do you know my mother ?" Brilliant.
Awesome! I found The Blade Itself on a bookself at a holiday home in England. I called the reception to ask if I could have the book, and now it sits comfortably on my self. 😎
Abercrombie is such a champ. Best living fantasy author
*Disagrees in Sanderson*
@@xaviermayi3686 Sandersons not even close
@@pillarmusic1641 That's your very subjective opinion my friend
@@xaviermayi3686 all opinions are subjective so what's the point of having one?
While I don't necessarily disagree I would say that Sanderson and Abercrombie are as good as each other but radically different in their writing and approach.
such a great interview! really interesting discussion
I just love Joe's humor... in the books and also in this talk. Great energy with these 3
You sure got the two best looking fantasy autors there!
*GRRM left the chat*
Evan and Daniel asked some of the best interview questions I’ve ever seen. Absolutely amazing from everyone involved.
Evan's little oh NO after his joke really got me for some reason lmao
The pleasure I take from listening to intelligent people saying intelligent things is undescribable. I aspire to reach such a level of eloquence.
👍👍
There’s no other author out there that so brilliantly weaves the human condition into a story.
I I haven't read any of Evan winter's books but have now added them to my wish list.
Was a good stream! Until the next interview.
This was a great interview, Daniel! It’s so much fun to hear both Joe and Evan speak, this joint interview style was great fun. And you did such a great job moderating the discussion! Interviews on your channel are really more like conversations and I love that. Looking forward to your future interviews!
Ha. Just finished Evans first book which was great. I am now starting "The Wisdom if Crowds" and am very excited.
Just finished the book. Damn you Abercrombie!!! You set up so much exciting concepts for the next trilogy you beautiful bastard!
These interviews are great! I can’t imagine the pressure you must have to interview big authors. I like how you are able to keep the conversation moving smoothly and add some humor without going to far. The questions were really good too.
This is such a legendary interview! Thanks for organizing this.
Three authors together talking about books. It doesn't get any better than this.
Well this convinced me to try both of their books Evan Winter asked very thoughtful, considered questions. Joe answered with fun clever quips, I'm guessing he writes good dialogue.
Great video!!! Happy reading to you!!
I love the interviewer, the interviewees, the format, the tone… what is there not to like??
Amazing interview. Excited to read this book.
I think I love and hate Joe Abercrombie in equal measure. Now I have finished all of his work I will check out Evan. This was AWESOME tyvm
Book 1, I was team Rikke.
Book 2 and I found that Vic was weaving through the pages 😉
Book 3 I actually was totally invested in Orso.
this was SO good! thanks guys!! i laughed and i learned some stuff, this was a great way to pass some of my work day!
I love Joe. He should have his own show.
GRRM'S maps are amazing and really adds to the story for me.
Fantastic stream! Thanks!!!!
Love them,thank you!!!!
I hope there is more of these.daniel did a great job👍👍
This was awesome and I can't wait for the next one!
Abercrombie has been my favorite fantasy author lately. I love grimdark and his is the best I've read.
By standard of enjoyment, Joe is on top. Glotka is amazing
Jezal had a lot of growth in first law. Not a stagnant character at all. Same thing with his best friend and sister who navigate their relationship and manage their life in the social structure.
THIS GUY DOESN'T STOP
After Rikka's Vision at the end of the book, will there be follow up books? I mean this was like a Marvel Post Credit Scene 😉
That’s what I was thinking! I feel l like Joe hinted at new books set in the same world in the future and I can’t wait! Maybe a new series or stand-alones? Who knows
I waited until I finished wisdom of crowds to watch so I could get all the references
I just finished it! What was your favorite part?
That’s three gods of fantasy on my screen, right here
Im in the army and im Corporal. Guess who I liked Reading about in the book. 😁
Does Daniel roast Lord Grimdark's shelves?
Somewhat, he mentions that he side stacks books too much
I won’t read books if it has a glossary. It’s like saying this book is to hard for you. Love the maps though 🥰
i love this, the banter the chemistry, joe is my fav author of all time, no one writes like he does, the witcher series captures a bit of that tone, but it's not as good as first law, im so sick of pg-13 YA fantasy where bad things get wrapped in bubble wrap and the heroes always win, abercrombie and grrm are great
Awesome discussion!
Have read the first book of First Law, love the characters, but have to be in the mood for grim dark.
Authors talking is always sick, I’m sure it’s a big ask - but more authors talking please !
Top man Daniel.
I actually don’t really care for maps or glossaries either tbh 😂
The Goblin, The Grimdark fella and Pecs Dude
Lord Grimdark and Lord Winter...there has got to be a story to write with those names 🤔. What names would other authors have (Sanderson, Butcher, etc.)? I'll see if I can make a story from them ✍
Hey Daniel great stream!!
Also, do you know when the spanish translations of the book wil be available?
Woah, when did Daniel speak with Steven Pacey?? I don’t see anything on this
fucking love every first law book. I still think Bremer Dan Gorst was the best POV!
I'm supposed to writing but... Evan and Abercrombie?
I’d like to see Joe remake Star Trek V because I think there’s potential for a really good film there
This is unrelated to the video but do you know when or if your books will be available in other countries?
I see you judging his bookshelf looking for funko toys...
Yeah yeah yeah
There must be something insanely interesting to the left of Joe. I really want to know what is.
1:04:14 😂
Abercrombie is a djdjdj
Joe transcends other fantasy for me. Id compare him to someone like james ellroy before another fantasy author haha.