Restoration of rare Apple IIc Plus

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  • @brusspup
    @brusspup ปีที่แล้ว +2167

    The restoration videos of yours are my favorite. There is an authenticity and charm about them that no one else on youtube comes even close to.

    • @Kat21
      @Kat21 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      oh hi brusspup, watched your illusions videos years ago

    • @1MadJack1
      @1MadJack1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kat21 ok

    • @Ronaldo-eu1nz
      @Ronaldo-eu1nz ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally its here. YES
      th-cam.com/video/J55WNzIRIUM/w-d-xo.html

    • @1MadJack1
      @1MadJack1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Ronaldo-eu1nz ok and?

    • @WolfgangMahringer
      @WolfgangMahringer ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@1MadJack1 Its a common spam. Report him.

  • @sloebig
    @sloebig ปีที่แล้ว +741

    These aren’t just restoration videos. I watch random restoration videos when I’m bored. I watch YOUR restoration videos when I want to learn about the history of a computer, how it works, and how I can keep my vintage equipment running forever. Your channel is an endless spiral of knowledge and while I love EVERY video you make, something about your restoration videos makes them stand out from all the rest. I’d never tell you how to run you channel, but know that your restorations are top-tier for a multitude of reasons and many people wish to continue seeing your passion.

    • @sireuchre
      @sireuchre ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What I notice is the clear focus on the particular failures of the restored device, and when they are common ones, the little explanations of that. Otherwise it would just be just another montage of restoring a device, with 'replaced failed ejector gear' being more of a footnote at best.

    • @vaughn1804
      @vaughn1804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯👍

  • @buserror1
    @buserror1 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    Watching David restore old computers is like watching Bob Ross paint. There's a certain Zen to it...It's oddly comforting to see another person treat something you care about with care and respect.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see these videos and wonder what will he do next make a copy of the apple 2 c plus🤣🤣🤣

    • @MikehMike01
      @MikehMike01 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      In both cases they’re not trying to impress you and it’s nice

  • @henryatkinson1479
    @henryatkinson1479 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    I really enjoy the restorations. They're always enjoyable. No 2 computers lived the same life, and restoring them tells their story. Your VIC-20 is a prime example of that.

  • @mbogucki1
    @mbogucki1 ปีที่แล้ว +116

    Personally, I think restorations, where there are MAJOR issues to solve, are the best ones. Watching you problem solve in an honest manner, sometimes leading to dead ends, is entertaining and informative.

  • @mitchboynunn
    @mitchboynunn ปีที่แล้ว +699

    Please don’t let all these other TH-cam channels influence your restoration videos. They are my favorite videos you make other then the history of videos. At the end of the day no one is the 8 bit guy but you.

    • @milk-it
      @milk-it ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well said. Just keep doing what you enjoy doing and uploading it for us :-).

    • @PcVgLife
      @PcVgLife ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Atleast do restore videos on new models he hasn't done before. I've used a few as reference for my own restores.

    • @revine9243
      @revine9243 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Most of the other restoration channels don’t have what 8-Bit has. Personality. He’s just such a fun guy who has a great personality that makes me want to see more content.

    • @kelvin1316
      @kelvin1316 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The thing with an "arm's race" is to just ignore and do your own thing. Adrian's digital Basement does exactly that with his restorations.

    • @emmettturner9452
      @emmettturner9452 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. Also, the fake channels only prove there is a market for the real thing. If, in response, everyone stopped doing it for real then all we’d have left are fakes!

  • @mattsparks3546
    @mattsparks3546 ปีที่แล้ว +170

    Your authenticity, professionalism, and very evident passion for these older computers, (after all, you have developed several games for these older platforms, simply because you like them) is what makes *your* restoration videos incomparable to other restoration videos, there's a feel to your videos that other creators cannot ever replicate.
    In short, your videos could never compete with other restoration videos, don't let it get to your head.

  • @Tall_Order
    @Tall_Order ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I'm one of those people who enjoys watching you restore things. I'm subscribed to a number of people who do it, with various things, rather it's computers, radios and TVs, pocket lighters from the 1940s, it's fun to watch the process making something old and rusty / yellowed / dirty resemble what it once looked like.

  • @Jrose11
    @Jrose11 ปีที่แล้ว +464

    Honestly, my favourite are the restoration videos. The fact is, you do a great job not only explaining what's going on, but also the significance. Most other videos either go into way too much detail for people like myself, or don't explain enough what they are testing/why they are doing what they are. I do understand the idea of them getting repetitive though, at some point how many bad ROM chips/blown capacitors can we see replaced. Still they are very relaxing and educational, so I'm a little sad we won't be seeing as many going forward.

    • @davidsiemers196
      @davidsiemers196 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Jrose, this isn't Pokémon TH-cam, what'cha doin' here?
      In all seriousness, I totally agree. There's something so wonderful about how David does his restoration videos. They're approachable, relaxing, and it's refreshing to have a TH-camr who isn't playing into the oneupmanship that many others in the restoration space are unfortunately starting to partake in.

    • @allentoyokawa9068
      @allentoyokawa9068 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      favorite**

    • @sanjicook08
      @sanjicook08 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey Jrose, how's it going?

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Holy shit, Jrose watches retro tech channels?

  • @adriansdigitalbasement
    @adriansdigitalbasement ปีที่แล้ว +687

    Two callouts in one video! Thanks. It’s nice to see one of these looking so nice again. Also, seaking of your other IIc, I noticed that one of my IIc machines that I retrobrighted a while back has also started to yellow again. Funny as I have stuff I did longer ago that hasn’t began to re-yellow. As all can imagine, there is no sunlight down in the Digital Basement, so it’s not that.

    • @The8BitGuy
      @The8BitGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +186

      Well, to be fair. Your videos were a great help in solving both issues!

    • @TheSulross
      @TheSulross ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Adrian, you and David should do a live chat session together - like the one you did with Bil Hurd - just rap about all things retro computing and inside baseball youtube content creating

    • @xp8969
      @xp8969 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@The8BitGuy disappointed that you didn't say the name of his channel, the 8-bit TH-cam Poop channel could have made excellent use of you saying the word basement

    • @tarstarkusz
      @tarstarkusz ปีที่แล้ว +7

      But what are the downsides to retrobrighting? I've never done it because I got used to it long before retrobrighting became widely known and, more importantly, I have heard that they are never really the right color again and that it will reverse and yellow again.
      But this is ancient plastic that is brittle and I have to wonder what the retrobrighting, basically dipping it in bleach is doing to the plastic besides changing its color. Is the plastic leaching anything during the process? Has anyone ever done chemical testing on the water/bleach after the process is done (I don't mean for getting rid of the water. I mean is it changing the plastic)? Are there chemical changes in the plastic? Is it still fire resistant?

    • @SpearM3064
      @SpearM3064 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @Adrian's Digital Basement It's not just UV light that can cause the reaction, it's heat. How warm is it down in the basement? And contrary to what everyone probably thinks, it's not the bromine that causes the yellowing. If the BFRs degraded into a bromide or bromate salt, then they would simply dissolve in water and the plastic would not stay yellowed. Yet that doesn’t happen. Another suggestion is that it degrades into bromine, which would also not keep the plastic yellow. Bromine is a volatile liquid and evaporates very quickly. It is also one of the more pungent smells that you could experience and even little amounts linger. It doesn’t cause the plastic to yellow. The yellowing is entirely caused by the degradation of the ABS plastic.

  • @abvgztooo
    @abvgztooo ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Your restorations are top notch, I even rewatch the old ones quite often.

  • @zenithseeker7
    @zenithseeker7 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Alps SKCM "Orange" - nice! The other keys were most likely PBT double-shots, because of the vintage, and those don't yellow after UV exposure. Space bars, then and now, are often made from ABS due to its cooling properties.

  • @StariusPrime
    @StariusPrime ปีที่แล้ว +204

    By the way, the keys didn’t need retrobryting because they’re PBT and the space bar did because it’s ABS. Pretty common practice in mechanical keyboards.

    • @jaysoncowan5763
      @jaysoncowan5763 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They should have made the whole computer from PBT, but i love the old IBM metal cases. Those will never need a retrobrighting.

    • @StariusPrime
      @StariusPrime ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@jaysoncowan5763 I think they generally don’t cast larger parts out of PBT because you risk warping as the plastic cools. ABS is better at that, but the downside is that it yellows over time.

    • @daemonspudguy
      @daemonspudguy ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@StariusPrime that's why. As far as I know, IBM was one of the only companies who made PBT spacebars, and Unicomp continues that tradition. No one else seemed to do it reliably.

    • @naysmith5272
      @naysmith5272 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      cool to know. Its interesting the other computer has yellowed again.

    • @dh2032
      @dh2032 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jaysoncowan5763 rust :-(

  • @BachiloDmitry
    @BachiloDmitry ปีที่แล้ว +355

    no no no no, even if you will make restoration videos of the same computer 100 times, I'll still watch! Please never stop!

    • @fffUUUUUU
      @fffUUUUUU ปีที่แล้ว

      лапоть 🇷🇺💩 вернись нах запарєбрік

    • @robertsherman7978
      @robertsherman7978 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen!😀👍🐕

    • @detrage5483
      @detrage5483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nah.

    • @RengaBeats
      @RengaBeats ปีที่แล้ว +4

      its funny.. I don't even watch these to learn how to do this stuff.. It just relaxes me to watch it!!

    • @martinwashington3152
      @martinwashington3152 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I 100x thumbs-up this comment!

  • @SquirreliciousMe
    @SquirreliciousMe ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The restoration videos are great - it's not about how often you've done it, it's about seeing how you're bringing an old computer back to life - sometimes not working at all, sometimes working but in poor quality so we can see how it looked originally and also how you're keeping computing history alive. I wouldn't worry about any of the competitive nonsense - it doesn't matter what someone else is doing, you've always been authentic and people know it.

  • @misterPSYCHOPATH3001
    @misterPSYCHOPATH3001 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The restoration, documentary of older hardware and learning how older software works are the types of videos i normally watch when i feel bored or feeling curious, keep up the good work!

  • @Boojakascha
    @Boojakascha ปีที่แล้ว +227

    All key caps but space are made of PBT. Space is made of ABS. PBT tends to move when curing, so it's hard to make long parts.
    The switches are Alps SKCM Orange and are among the best ever made =)

    •  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Praise be to SKCM.

    • @dc9662
      @dc9662 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have one with Amber Alps, which sound and feel fantastic.

    • @Ronaldo-eu1nz
      @Ronaldo-eu1nz ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally its here. YES
      th-cam.com/video/J55WNzIRIUM/w-d-xo.html

    • @sean640
      @sean640 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the little metal piece is a stabilizer !

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an Zenith Datasystems 286e Supersport laptop with Alps SKCM Baby Blue switches I personally think have a better key feel, but Orange is not bad either. 👍I wish more laptops/all in one computers these days would come with these kinds of awesome switches at least as an extra option.

  • @KOrgan0414
    @KOrgan0414 ปีที่แล้ว +234

    You DON'T need to defend yourself for using Petscii Robots as a demo floppy!! If anything, you deserve to plug your hard work a little!
    Wonderful job, David!

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Be cool if there was an Android version.

    • @Brfff
      @Brfff ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Like in the "olden days" when running MS Flight Sim was one test of "IBM compatibility" ... these days we use PETSCII Robots to verify retro computer functionality ;) /Brett

    • @Ronaldo-eu1nz
      @Ronaldo-eu1nz ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally its here. YES
      th-cam.com/video/J55WNzIRIUM/w-d-xo.html

    • @jaydylantyler
      @jaydylantyler ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There’s been more than a ‘little’ plugging of the game! The channel felt like QVC for a long time. It’s so nice to get back to some real content now.

    • @Cemi_Mhikku
      @Cemi_Mhikku ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@jaydylantyler You sound as boring and entitled as you look, mister linkdin profile pic.

  • @ericbuell3701
    @ericbuell3701 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would literally watch you restore the same exact PC 1000 times. It's not about the specific brand or model. It's about the care and passion you display for each one. I've been watching you for a really long time and your drive to bring old hardware back to life to be remembered properly hasn't ever changed.

  • @TechDeals
    @TechDeals ปีที่แล้ว +8

    David, please don’t stop…. I love watching your restore videos, I watch them all several times. Your pacing and how you show things is lovely,

  • @IG88IGLOO.
    @IG88IGLOO. ปีที่แล้ว +194

    I really like your restoration videos. It offers up an oportunity to learn a bit about the history of the computer and the innards. I think its interesting to know about what has failed over the years and you do a great job showing that and fixing it especially compared to some that might fix electronics for a quick buck or weird asmr.

    • @ronsku57
      @ronsku57 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      SAME

    • @Leofwine
      @Leofwine ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes!

    • @Ronaldo-eu1nz
      @Ronaldo-eu1nz ปีที่แล้ว

      Finally its here. YES
      th-cam.com/video/J55WNzIRIUM/w-d-xo.html

    • @FrecciaBensino224
      @FrecciaBensino224 ปีที่แล้ว

      Me tooooo

    • @nickwallette6201
      @nickwallette6201 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have used the restoration videos as a reference to what the inside should look like, if I’m doing repairs or comparing what I got when I acquired something new.

  • @ExplosiveAction
    @ExplosiveAction ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Honestly I love watching the restoration videos. There is always something new each time, like the electronic eject mechanism in this one. Sure the retrobrite part is the same each time but restoring the mechanics is always fun to watch.

  • @tianshi8453
    @tianshi8453 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    The way you do your restoration videos is exactly what (almost) everyone of your fans wants to see. You don't have to worry for the "competition" (what competition? *g*). Just do them when you want/need to and how you want them to be. It will be just fine!

    • @npenplz
      @npenplz ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a bunch of fake restoration videos that go around, but I've only seen them for game consoles and such. They are annoying though because they clog any searches for good restoration videos, which pushes these ones to the bottom.

  • @yas1945
    @yas1945 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this. When I was a kid I treasured my IIc far too much to "risk" open it up, unlike so many other electronic devices. Only many years later did I start tinkering with and re-assembling hardware. Thanks very much!

  • @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365
    @jeremiefaucher-goulet3365 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Nobody makes restoration videos like you do. Please don't stop doing them, they are my favorites!! While I like everything you do, it's still my favorite thing. I was waiting until the end of this video to say "Thank you for finally putting up another restoration video" and then you drop that bomb on us of being weary about them. Damn... If you feel weary, I understand why you may not be so keen on doing them. And obviously, you should only do what you want to do. If anything, don't let other youtubers influence you. Just do your thing. It never was a competition to me.

  • @tjaldfeen
    @tjaldfeen ปีที่แล้ว +126

    Don't worry about the repetitiveness of restoration videos. It's like watching Bob Ross do a painting. I don't know how many happy little trees I've seen that man paint, but I'd gladly see it again. The process, and your thoughts and commentary, it's like having an older brother with a neat hobby that you love to get a glimpse of. Whenever you release a restoration video, I'll for sure be there to see it! :-)

    • @jmkeller
      @jmkeller ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well said and a great comparison with Ross. It really is therapy for me at the end of a long day.

    • @robertsherman7978
      @robertsherman7978 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is a PERFECT analogy!!😀👍🐕

  • @Valdaemonium
    @Valdaemonium ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of these reasons you've got to do these restorations, I may bet which is: the love and achiving excellence in everything you do for classic techs. Thanks for this!

  • @MelancolicoCatrin
    @MelancolicoCatrin ปีที่แล้ว

    Retro restoration videos are therapeutic for me, the way 8-bit guy does them and explains them is the best.

  • @misterkumquat7911
    @misterkumquat7911 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Restoration videos, no matter how simple, are my favorite videos of yours. I appreciate this one!

  • @dark0hannibal
    @dark0hannibal ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Those who are in the modeling hobby can tell you that there are varnishes for plastic that protect from UV light and contact with oxygen from the environment. They are also extremely easy to remove using alcohol and rubbing if you don't like the finish.
    Some products that I recommend are the MR. SUPER CLEAR UV CUT and MR. SUPER CLEAR.

    • @rudeskalamander
      @rudeskalamander ปีที่แล้ว

      WHY ARE YOU YELLING

    • @retro8696
      @retro8696 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rudeskalamander I don't think UV does anything to these I had a super nintendo that turned yellow and it was in a box in a dark room with no UV light and it still turned yellow I just think the Yellow happens from time.

    • @rudeskalamander
      @rudeskalamander ปีที่แล้ว

      @@retro8696 why did you ping me lol? I was just commenting on the fact that the product names listed by op were both all caps

  • @camwhitehead4440
    @camwhitehead4440 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your restoration videos. I don't know anything about OLD computers, but I look forward to every restoration video you put out because I LEARN SO MUCH. If people watching this aren't satisfied or think it's fake, they are more than welcome to make videos themselves.

  • @Helmutlozzi
    @Helmutlozzi ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I love your restoration vids! Even if they might seem "sameish" the pleasure is just as much from seeing the hardware restored to proper glory again. Thanks!

  • @vinnycordeiro
    @vinnycordeiro ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Spacebars usually are made of ABS, while the other keycaps are made out of PBT.
    PBT doesn't yellow with age but has the tendency to easily warp immediately after injection molding, so manufacturers usually only made the smaller keycaps using this material, using ABS on the spacebars simply because it's easier.
    And those are salmon ALPS key switches, if I'm not mistaken (it has been years since I was into custom mechanical keyboards). You can only remove the metal plate by desoldering all the switches.

    • @AtariBorn
      @AtariBorn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Interesting tidbit. Thanks.

    • @EvergreenTheTree
      @EvergreenTheTree ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe those are ALPS SKCM Orange key switches (Deskthority's article on the Apple IIc series of computers confirms this), which are the SKCM variant of tactile switches.

    • @TommyFenstermacher5150
      @TommyFenstermacher5150 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EvergreenTheTree Yeah, those are orange Alps. Salmon Alps were their successor.

  • @shootytheturtle
    @shootytheturtle ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I enjoy the restoration process: it is always satisfying to see something old that was once an exciting new purchase and that has suffered neglect and abuse being restored to almost brand new condition. Please continue to include this process in your future videos whenever it is merited. Thanks!

  • @dave4shmups
    @dave4shmups ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree with you about not getting involved in any kind of retro computer restoration competition on TH-cam. You always do a fantastic job and your videos are a blessing to watch!

  • @pulsatingsausageboy2076
    @pulsatingsausageboy2076 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful! I love seeing old machines like that restored.

  • @mkonji8522
    @mkonji8522 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Hey David, I wanted to comment on the clear coat experiment you mentioned. I actually have had great success with this method *however* , only with a specific type of clear coat used for hobby plastics. Initially around 2012 I tried rustoleum clear and krylon clear after doing (what was eventually called) retrobrighting but both of those unfortunately yellowed again over about a 3 year period. After that didn't work I spoke to a friend I grew up with in Japan that does a lot of model building and he suggested *Mr. Super Clear - UV Cut* and I have to say It is the *BEST* at preventing these devices from yellowing after retrobrighting. I've used it on every device I've done since (at least 20 or so different systems and many peripherals) and after about 8-9 years none of it has even begun to yellow.
    My friend who let me in on the secret has Gundam figures that are known to yellow that he built in the 90's that still have not yellowed. He sold me by sending me an image comparison of new in box ones from 94/95 to the ones he built with the uv clear spray and man is it night and day, white vs golden brown.
    Process- Please thoroughly scuff up the plastic prior to painting with a red scotchbrite to ensure that the paint bites to the plastic evenly (be sure to get the vents with a flathead and the scotchbrite).
    When painting do two very very light coats initially and wait about 20 minutes in-between each coat so they can gas out (very important). After apply a third medium thick coat then wait 2 hours to gas out and a finally apply a forth and final medium thickness for matte paint or if using gloss use a heavy thickness coat and wait 24-48 hours to handle to yield best results.
    Here's the paint
    Matte- www.hobbylinc.com/gunze-sangyo-mr-super-clear-uv-cut-matt-spray-polycarbonate-hobby-and-model-paint-b523
    Gloss- www.hobbylinc.com/htm/guz/guzb522.htm
    Thank me later ; )

    • @The8BitGuy
      @The8BitGuy  ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Thanks, I'll look into this.

    • @watcherzero5256
      @watcherzero5256 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@The8BitGuy Yes be careful what you use, many clear coats that 'protect against UV' will themselves yellow for the same reason as the plastic.

  • @killingtimeitself
    @killingtimeitself ปีที่แล้ว +40

    i love the cathartic and repetitive nature of the restorations, the music and your narration is always super relaxing, plus its always interesting to see what problems a specific piece of hardware has, even if they arent particularly grueling restorations i enjoy them.

    • @beastmtl
      @beastmtl ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right on spot for me those vidéo are relaxing as equal as interesting.

    • @SonicBoone56
      @SonicBoone56 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right? I like watching tool and toy restorations when I need to relax

    • @killingtimeitself
      @killingtimeitself ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SonicBoone56 its one of the better ways to relax, especially when its computer related, its always so much more interesting when it comes to the restoration.

    • @rafaelm.5148
      @rafaelm.5148 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's like a mix of ASMR, nostalgia, spring cleaning! I love the retro vibe of the music, 80s synth!

  • @Cr0ssUP
    @Cr0ssUP ปีที่แล้ว

    Your restoration videos are the main reason why i subscribed to your channel. Most retrobrite restorations i've seen dont have the same level of passion and love for these PC's like you do. Your care and attention to detail really shines but most importantly these videos are extremely relaxing with chill vibes. I hope this comment encourages you.

  • @LeoA2600
    @LeoA2600 ปีที่แล้ว

    I never tire of restoration videos of classic machines like the Apple II and Commodore 64.

  • @PluckyD
    @PluckyD ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Count me in the pro-restoration videos camp. It's sort of like the first step in introducing a newly covered PC IMO. I would also say you do them quite well to begin with. I'll be watching your content regardless, but just wanted to say I've been watching since "How oldschool graphics worked pt. 1" and still love the resto videos too. :)

    • @ShaunDreclin
      @ShaunDreclin ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey I think that's how I found this channel too! It was that or the one on sound, don't remember now

  • @dressupgeekout
    @dressupgeekout ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I can't believe that some people wouldn't trust the NES restoration was real! Those must be the same people who couldn't believe you wrote Tetris in BASIC in a few hours that one time

  • @paincreatesfame
    @paincreatesfame ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Echoing a lot of the other comments here but I love watching the restoration videos! It's always so satisfying seeing the backstories behind these machines and watching them being restored to their former beauty. I never grew up with most of these things so it's also just cool to see what came before my lifetime and how things have aged after so many years.

  • @airshackretro8551
    @airshackretro8551 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are my teacher when it comes to restoring retro computers. I acquire old computers often solely to restore them and sell. It’s by no means a profitable enterprise. I enjoy the restoration process as a hobby. Always, I learn from watching you restore systems. I too consider this genre of videos my favorite. FJB😅

  • @bobris
    @bobris ปีที่แล้ว +19

    You say "don't get mad" but I don't think you have anything to apologize for. Great video, thanks for sharing.

    • @lis6502
      @lis6502 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      David obviously takes care about what others are saying and there were some comments on him sticking his game whereever possible ;). I think that he might as well print posters of PR and Planet X3 making them as a background of all upcoming videos because there defienetely IS something to be proud of.

  • @ToumalRakesh
    @ToumalRakesh ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I enjoy the restauration videos. I don't care if they're "less fancy" than what other youtubers produce, and it's been fun to watch you learn and grow over time. I'm glad this channel has a little bit of everything, and not just one type of content.

  • @HypherNet
    @HypherNet ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never be mad at you showing off your own software. Or charging an amount so you can pay yourself fairly. You're insanely talented and probably a little too humble for your own good. Great work, as always. The iic was my first computer, and it takes me back to a lot of great memories with my late stepmother who wrote games for small children for the early apple computers.

  • @eroc1024
    @eroc1024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please don’t stop your restoration vids. They are so relaxing to watch. I mean dig all your vids but those really stand out.

  • @elduderino1287
    @elduderino1287 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I LOVE your restoration videos, I neverget tired of watching them. Forget what other people are doing, keep up the great work.

  • @cheezitupp
    @cheezitupp ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Love restorations though, definitely have re-watched your other restorations. Your videos aren’t fake and you always do the best you can. I enjoy learning alongside when you find out you can’t use a certain retrobrite technique or when you learn certain chemicals don’t work. I love the experimental process because your videos are very down to earth and real. Love your videos, keep it up!

  • @JayCAlan
    @JayCAlan ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love the restoration videos! There is just something absolutely comforting about your process of tearing down, cleaning, and re-assembling. I just love seeing them cleaned and restored. I think it's the same reason I like the Hoarders shows, watching ickiness become clean somehow makes me feel better about the world or something. Keep it up, please! I promise to watch every one.

  • @DragonBlue68
    @DragonBlue68 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brings back memories😁 I had an Apple IIC back in high school in the 80s. The memory was boosted, had the Apple green screen monitor, "clone" external floppy drive, and "color" (black/red) dot matrix printer to go with it. Used it up until about 1994. Back in the 80s, Apple ruled our school district... Apple II, II Plus, IIE, Lisa, and Mac were about the only systems in use at my high school.

  • @andrasbradacs6016
    @andrasbradacs6016 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I think you just can’t do bad videos no matter what topic you choose. And I think the retrocomputer repair community can thank you so much because of the exploration of retrobrighting process. Keep up the good work, I will watching your videos! 😊

  • @GenericJeebus
    @GenericJeebus ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly while I do love pretty much every video off this channel, the documentaries, the unboxing of donations, I especially loved the studio and original dream desk builds too, I think the restorations have always been my favorite as well, there's a particular style to the explanations on troubleshooting, and the methods to solving each problem that I've always really enjoyed since I started watching back in 2015 or 16 or so. It got me into working at restoring old tech I've either found through work or storage from family, and I'd always found them extremely helpful and entertaining.

  • @DerekSmit
    @DerekSmit ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the restoration videos, especially when there is a technical problem, because you take use the viewer along the ride of finding out what's wrong. It's a nice mix of learning and just watching someone skilled do his thing.
    It's the same reason I like watching people with great carpentry skills build something out of wood. It's a skill I don't have and enjoy seeing people do. I think it's why a lot of people enjoy sports.

  • @fruit9441
    @fruit9441 ปีที่แล้ว

    your restorations are special because you actually explain what youre doing, what it means, and how the computers work. that makes it such an interesting experience AND i learn more about computers/technology. id watch you restore ANYTHING

  • @mrb5217
    @mrb5217 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    David, to get those Alps keyswitches out, you'd need to desolder them all, then the PCB will come off the back and then the switches will snap out through the front of the plate.

  • @w2ed
    @w2ed ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I wouldn’t worry about “competition” with your restoration videos - many of the ones I see offer little to no commentary about their experiences, the hardware involved or what they are doing, whereas yours (and a few others I like) offer those insights. I would rather watch one of yours because of that. Keep doing what you do.

    • @detrage5483
      @detrage5483 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over

    • @w2ed
      @w2ed ปีที่แล้ว

      @@detrage5483, if you think he's just repeating himself, if you don't like what he does, watch something else. He gets enough statistics that, if it really is a problem, it will show in his viewership and - regardless of what you and I say - he can choose what to do about it.
      I voiced my comment because of one thing that bothers me, when creator's come on their videos complaining about a type of video and then defending himself for what he does. HE DOESN'T NEED TO DO THAT - what he does compared to the other repair and restoration videos I usually also watch is he puts himself, his home and his stories into the equation. I have a better understand of why he retrobrites (not sure if spelled correctly) and does what he does better than I do other creator's, and when I get the money to tackle projects like these, I'll have that to reference. He does enough to make his videos stand out that he doesn't need to cut those type of videos back to avoid being competition or being repetitive. Sometimes letting someone know their positives can help rest concerns or understand how they can improve what they are uncomfortable with.

    • @alpzepta
      @alpzepta ปีที่แล้ว

      Most people creating video the most modern way possible while David do it using the 80s 90s style which is my prefer

  • @TheKorath
    @TheKorath 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought I'd post my thoughts about your restoration videos a year too late. Personally I don't come to them to see the most extreme restorations, I come to them to see the gear I remembered from my childhood getting fixed up and working like new. I bought my first retro computer a few days ago, an old Apple IIe, and prior to picking it up and watching as many restoration videos as I can to see what I'm in for. So more of this sort of content is always better.

  • @RudeFoxALTON
    @RudeFoxALTON ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personally I love the restoration videos, especially when there's some kind of technical problem where you do hardware diagnosis. It's like a puzzle/mystery but more fun since I dont have do the work to solve it lol.

  • @lis6502
    @lis6502 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    13:36 as much as you gonna do it :) There's a difference between "another restoration video" and 8-Bit Guy's restoration video :)
    Your videos were at the very start of series somewhat educational slash entertaining, nowadays there isn't much to be told (disassemble, gather dirt and do retrobrite), yet it's still very satisfying to watch. So as long as pure entertainment and idea of saving these artifacts from scrapyard are concerned, you should keep posting ^^

  • @mybrainisshortcake
    @mybrainisshortcake ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember some of these Apples looking that dirty back in 1990! So satisfying to watch. I grew up around *three* Apple II labs, IIe, IIc, IIgs. Great memories.

  • @mightymattd8822
    @mightymattd8822 ปีที่แล้ว

    For what it's worth I still enjoy the restoration videos. Each computer is different so there's enough variety that I don't get bored by them.

  • @EndOfForever
    @EndOfForever ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It's a good day when an 8 bit guy restoration video is uploaded

  • @0fuxTaken
    @0fuxTaken ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I enjoy the restoration videos. They certainly hit the "oddly satisfying" spot. I don't watch any other channels for such content.

  • @infinitecanadian
    @infinitecanadian ปีที่แล้ว

    Your restoration videos aren't a competition; they are an important part of the series.

  • @f.k.b.16
    @f.k.b.16 ปีที่แล้ว

    The very slow fade in between scenes when you are putting the keys back on to the keyboard really gives that 80's music an extra pop!

  • @glitchedmac5969
    @glitchedmac5969 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is the only Apple // I've ever personally owned and still have! I've done so much to keep it preserved and functional. I absolutely love watching this beautiful machine get the love here :D

  • @Vaskomyr
    @Vaskomyr ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Just love seeing the restoration giving what ever you're working on new life. Shouldn't worry about other channels or people making ridiculous claims that you fake it. I've seen those ones and they are terrible especially when it's a newer item that is obviously intentionally damaged just so they can make a video. Just keep doing what you do and know we appreciate you and what you bring.

  • @fatyg5682
    @fatyg5682 ปีที่แล้ว

    I personally enjoy the restoration videos with diagnosing broken parts and fixing them, however, just watching any restoration video is great. I hope you keep doing them, but do what you gotta do! Thanks for the content.

  • @ThorstenWieking
    @ThorstenWieking ปีที่แล้ว

    Watching your restoration videos plays for me in more or less the same league as many Adam Savage videos. Watching a person creating/enhancing/repairing/restoring/preserving something with their hands, dedication and knowledge. They are motivating and inspiring.

  • @TheRogueMaverick
    @TheRogueMaverick ปีที่แล้ว +49

    SOOO worth supporting you on Patreon! You are, without hesitation, my absolute favourite TH-camr! I remember discovering you in late 2016 and one of the first videos I watched was the one on early digital cameras like the Sony Mavica.
    It’s been fun watching you grow as a content creator! I joined when you were somewhere in the 400k subscriber range and now, at the time of writing, you’re at 1.38 MILLION! Keep up the amazing work! I’m sticking around for as long as TH-cam exists!

    • @B3Band
      @B3Band ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm genuinely curious what your feed looks like then lol

    • @HisVirusness
      @HisVirusness ปีที่แล้ว

      @@B3Band Same. Anyone who has The 8-Bit Guy in their feed is obviously a person of culture.

    • @HOLLASOUNDS
      @HOLLASOUNDS ปีที่แล้ว

      Good for you.

    • @TheRogueMaverick
      @TheRogueMaverick ปีที่แล้ว

      @@B3Band - It really depends on how many videos I’ve rewatched. But I have had many videos come up in my feed before! What really drew me to the channel was and still is his impeccable ability to be technical and complex while making it more friendly to understand! I’m a tech-minded person and I still can get hopelessly confused by some topics.
      One example of The 8-Bit Guy helping me was when I was watching some “Behind The Code” videos from Displaced Gamers. Thanks to 8BG’s video on Assembly/Machine Language, I was able to understand the videos a little better with the coding language they used. I’m familiar with some coding, particularly in BASIC, but I’m still very much a newbie.

  • @lishd
    @lishd ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I could watch you restore computers for 12 hours a day without getting bored of it. I would enjoy a constant stream of watching you competently being detail oriented while making things cleaner and better than they were. You are my "lo-fi beats to relax or study to". ^_^

  • @SollowP
    @SollowP ปีที่แล้ว

    These restoration videos that you make are so much more than just restoration. It's basically a little history video more than restoration, you go over how they're made, what makes them work, how they differ from other computers and a ton more.

  • @keithjohnston2863
    @keithjohnston2863 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love watching your restoration videos David, you have such a love for these vintage machines and it really shows in how you take care of them! What a neat collection and fun to play around with.

  • @beeftacosss
    @beeftacosss ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Happy to see more restorations, honestly some of the best content here, keep it up!

  • @nopenottalib4366
    @nopenottalib4366 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hell yeah - an 8-Bit Guy upload! THANK YOU!

  • @timmoen1083
    @timmoen1083 ปีที่แล้ว

    I will never tire of 8-bit showing us the weather in Kennedale and then running out to his driveway for some top quality retro Brite. Also, I know nothing about computers. I am here for David Murray. I know I’m not the only one.

  • @RedGr33nBlue
    @RedGr33nBlue ปีที่แล้ว +1

    got busy with work so didn't have time to watch alot of 8 bit guy but it was a blessing in disguise because it's so good to binge watch these, always a blast to watch. keep up the great work, love these restoration videos

  • @Markimark151
    @Markimark151 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As much I love vintage Apple computers, I hated their motorized floppy drives since they lack a manual eject button and they often get stuck! Our school’s Macintosh classics had their disks stuck because of the design flaw.

  • @PatrickM-dm6sf
    @PatrickM-dm6sf ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Midnight on the East coast, screw it I’m in.

  • @party4keeps28
    @party4keeps28 ปีที่แล้ว

    There will always be detractors but it's obvious that you're an honest person and take your work seriously. I appreciate what you do very, very much.

  • @thelaughingmanofficial
    @thelaughingmanofficial ปีที่แล้ว

    Computer Restoration videos always give me a cozy feeling even if they're not exactly cozy for the person restoring and cleaning the computer.

  • @discingaround
    @discingaround ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your restoration videos are my favorite. Fantastic job!

  • @ellesmerewildwood4858
    @ellesmerewildwood4858 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm not a programmer or into computers in any big kind of way but I do love restorations. As a restorer myself, been restoring for 40 some years, I can always spot a fake. Sadly, you're right, there are so many fake restorations and restorers on youtube trying to out-do each other with all kinds of restorations. On the flip side, there are also many true and brilliant craftsmen/women out there working real magic with their skills. So far, I've never seen you fake one, so as far as I'm concerned keep up the restorations.

    • @alt842
      @alt842 ปีที่แล้ว

      What do you restore? Just out of curiosity

    • @ellesmerewildwood4858
      @ellesmerewildwood4858 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@alt842 Classic car instruments. Old school instrument guy. Don't go near any of the new car instruments, I don't have the deep electronics know-how or the software. Just the classic mechanical instruments. So I love watching restorations because I'm never above picking up a new tip or a trick from someone else.

  • @ridiculous_gaming
    @ridiculous_gaming ปีที่แล้ว

    All I can say is what a wonderful piece of technology. Such quality to run decades later unlike today's electronics.

  • @1TireBiter1
    @1TireBiter1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Had one of these new as a kid. Whole family chipped in to get it. Was a IIc+ with the small plugs. Not many games were around on the 3.5 format at the time, but did acquire A Bards Tale 3 retail. Had a friend give me and external IIe drive and a box of games so had to make an adapter cable. What a great little machine. Have not seen this exact model gone through before so thanks.

  • @PerfectPilot
    @PerfectPilot ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I LOVE these restoration videos! I can’t wait to watch

  • @McTroyd
    @McTroyd ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was blown away the first time I saw one of those 3.5" drives eject a disk itself (on a IIGS). Must have cycled that drive dozens of times before I got bored. Haven't seen the broken gear phenomena yet, but good to know to look for it! 👍️

    • @lucasrem
      @lucasrem ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My original Macintosh did that, this apple II model is newer than that, they used the same mechanisms.
      for me it was normal, drives that did not do that were old crap drives, LOL

  • @GenXHippie
    @GenXHippie ปีที่แล้ว

    I worked for Apple in 1987 and 1988. Watching you restore the old girls fills me with joy. If you stop doing them, that's fine, I'll just go watch them restored somewhere else.
    How many times can I watch you do the same thing? Every time. I worked on a design team and see some of my old ghosts when you do these, so yeah, I'll watch every restoration you decide to do.

  • @Aura_Mancer
    @Aura_Mancer ปีที่แล้ว

    Restoration videos are my favorites. I love how much you care about these computers, the restoration playlist is my "I'm feeling overwhelmed" playlist. So relaxing and cheery to watch.

  • @cjn083096
    @cjn083096 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Really great to see you again, You and James Rolph's content are all that keep my mind from falling apart, my only break from the disaster of life. Thank you, I can never repay what you've given to me freely.

  • @mpoulin
    @mpoulin ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been watching a lot of watch restoration videos lately. Your cleaning and lubrication of the drive parts reminds me of those videos. Always great content on this channel! 👏

  • @trashpandatee
    @trashpandatee ปีที่แล้ว

    Your restoration videos are the exact reason I stumbled upon your channel, and how I learned the term 'retrobrite'.
    Please keep these videos coming, you do have fans that love to see them, please don't feel like you need to compete!

  • @aimeegranzier8908
    @aimeegranzier8908 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your restorations! You give insight into each computer while you restore and I love that bit of history. My dad and I have a few C64 that we have been meaning to restore as a fun project, your videos have helped me understand the process!

  • @Dukefazon
    @Dukefazon ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I found an old AT keyboard (no Windows key) at my local fleamarket, it had some plaster spilled on and the both ENTER keys were not working (looked like they were stuck down or something), I bought it for about 25 US cents (current exchange rate), brought it home, it was perfectly fine, only the spacer thingies were missaligned under the two ENTER keys. Took it apart, washed, then retrobrited the top of the case and the keys and now I have a beautiful retro keyboard for a quarter of a dollar. I'm so happy that I found your channel all these years ago and inspired me to do this kind of a work, it was so satisfying even for a little old common keyboard.

  • @CrazyTechReviews
    @CrazyTechReviews ปีที่แล้ว +10

    So cool to see this thing turn out so nicely. Love the bright white color and design language of these computers! You did a good job cleaning it up and getting it fully operational again

  • @therealScopolamine
    @therealScopolamine ปีที่แล้ว

    Rare to find people like David who don’t shit out low quality videos everyday with the intention of revenue. He takes his time and uploads infrequently to focus on quality over quantity. Love it.

  • @jgurtz
    @jgurtz ปีที่แล้ว

    To me the most interesting thing about your restorations is seeing the details like on this floppy drive. It's nice to see the gear fix, but also things like this posts with captive disks as a metal-on-metal sliding surface. Very instructional on how not to do things for new more reliable designs which need less maintenance!

  • @wysiwygscomputerrepository4905
    @wysiwygscomputerrepository4905 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    David! Love these restorations, but something stood out to me about this one that could've been improved, if just slightly! The Apple logo on these machines, at least from my experience with most other Apple products, usually has a small hole in the back side of the logo on the underside of the plastic. This is so that it can be removed and changed if needed, but also really helps when it comes to whitening these plastics, as the logo often times (in your case not *too* bad) will bleach along with the plastic!

    • @Octamed
      @Octamed ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I noticed too. It's definitely lighter. Probably worth covering with paper tape or clear coating just the logo (the paint is VERY flimsy as I found out when cleaning mine)