Ha! Looking back to a young up and coming Lendl ... he didn't fully know it then ... but would be one of the best players of the next decade of his era. Such a clean hitter of the ball. The "father" of the modern power game.
Interesting to see how Lendl changed his strokes over the next few years. Everything became more elongated--but especially his forehand which became a loopy whip. Also, his serve here had him landing on his back foot (very old school) and later he landed on his front.
1980 and I can clearly see the ball! What gives? If only all the old matches were of this quality! Not only is it quite clear but the sense of speed is also enhanced.
Vilas already had a kind of proto Rafa high spin ball :). So interesting to have watched this match. Among other aspects Lendl already had improved a part of his backhand long way. What age was Vilas?. Looked like very strong and well prepared fisically. By that time these couple of excellent exponents of modern tennis did already HIT hard the ball with rather topspin aiming to short angles not only 'pushing' forward or pointing to corners. I like how well they completely covered every sides of the court to restart the point. I see Vilas heavily breathing going to his bench after a long point. Great athletes already.
@@gusttigoll9118 17 titles and 46 winning matches in a row,still records,he finished 2 in the world that year,there are come controversies for this reason with ATP and ranking systems,Vilas still think he was number 1 for. an instant.
It's great to see Vilas take those sky-high lobs in the air. Vilas was a honest-to-goodness clay-court iron man. This must be an early Lendl appearance.
Vincent Hannah It is a Kneissl and later Adidas bought the mold so it is very similar to if not identical to the Adidas he played with later. I am trying to find a video of Lendl playing wood. He was an early adopter of modern racket technology.
"Elisse" uniform - what a quality it was! My favorite. I played tennis with owner, italian man, one morning, during Kremlin Cup in Moscow, and he presented me big tennis bag full of staff.
I've never seen Vilas played before but has grown up hearing his name as a great tennis player. I can see how Becker might've got his serving style from. Like the swaying before the toss and the crossed legs after jumping off the serving line.
yes and that's on the lack of Professional Teaching standards. And, ham fisted coaches of bash until you drop. Two handed grunt fests are the norm now, until somebody kacks a weak groundstroke or error. Even first serves are NEVER (good ones) used to follow anymore. How lame is that?
what i notice is how loopy many of the strokes are............ would loopiness not work on the tour these days? probably thinking more women's tour than men's
@@smcchandler3430 I would if your name Rafael Nadal. Watch how he plays his cross court forehand most of the time. His reverse cross court forehand is much, much flatter.
Vilas a 28 ans il est au sommet de son art ,le meilleur joueur sur terre de la décennie 70 ,après Borg ,et Lendl 20 ans ,peut-être dans les 10 premiers mais inexpérimenté ,malgré une victoire sur Borg au tournoi de Bâle sur dur et une victoire en coupe David cintre L Italie Panatta
Oui Vilas, bientôt 28 ans, à l'époque , revenait tout juste à la compétition,et avait immédiatement retrouvé la forme !! malheureusement la suite de sa saison fut bien décevante avec un USOPEN 80 bien pâle
Vilas qui restera très performant jusqu’à l année 1982 avec encore une finale de Roland Garros et une demi-finale de l us open alors que Lendl commence époustouflante jusqu’en 1991 avec 8 grand chelem et pendant presque 5 ans numéro 1 mondial...
Entre 81 et 87 peu de joueurs ont pu battre Lendl sur terre (Il y eut Borg ,Mac enroe,Wilander,Noah ,Sundstrom,Glickstein ,Vilas )c était aux tournois de Roland Garros Monte Carlo,Forest Hill et la coupe Davis
Cependant on va le voir des 1980 en finale des Masters contre Borg sur moquette,une précocité incroyable à ce niveau et dans un tel tournoi,certainement un record
Une des différences entre les 2 c'est le jeu de jambes et le déplacement et la vitesse. Chez Borg, Gerulaitis ou Vilas (comme on le voit sur cet extrait) c'est hallucinant
nice upload. man, the game here is about the precision needed to use rackets with a smaller sweet spot. i know it's clay but these guys are just standing around waiting for the opponent to hit the ball back. power/speed is not really part of the game! neither is rushing the net, at least for these guys... i mean, Vilas hits ball within inch of baseline to Lendl's backhand and still stays back! kind of frustrating - different times, although the particular players and surface admittedly has something to do with it too.
Interesting. Lendl hadnt really developed his backhand yet. He kind of pushes the ball on his backhand, where later on he had alot more power and topspin and really hit through the ball. A couple of points there i was expecting him to smash the ball away on his backhand but instead pushed it back, but a few years later those shots he would be smashing them for winners.
Vilas and Lendl. Both built so different. Lendl is a typical bean pole tennis player who wants to carry no extra weight , including muscles. Vilas built like a boxer or rugby player. Strong as a bull. Borg always thought he could always outlast the muscled up Vilas. To me Vilas and Lendl took fitness to another level back then. Both worked out all the time , and watched there diet. Vilas , like Nadal a muscled up anomaly in tennis. Today’s players are incredibly fit , but there bean poles. Look at skinny medvedev. Weight slows you down. Vilas and Nadal were different.
Guillermo still did not use graphite rackets at that time. The model he uses in this match, if I am not mistaken, is the Vilas Head that is made of wood. On the other hand, Kevin Curren also played with wood racket in 1984. Here In TH-cam there is a video of him playing with Mats Wilander.
Wasnt Vilas' racket one of the later wooden Heads, it just had graphite laminates on both sides of the racket, making it look all black and thus all graphite? :) I had a similar Pro Kennex, remember those? :D
1983. Il avait la dunlop graphite (comme Steffi Graf) quand il a gagné wimbledon et perdu contre Scanlon à l'US open. 0 cette époque, il avait le dessus sur Lendl.
McEnroe changed to graphite in 1983 (his first tournament being the WCT final in Dallas, if I remember correctly.. where he beat Lendl in a thrilling five setter!).
@@opencurtin Yes, definitely much less easy power and spin. Vilas was an absolute powerhouse back in the day and Lendl had the most lethal forehand in the game but neither man would even try to just blast the ball off the baseline the way even wimpy guys can these days. It was counter-productive to the point of suicidal.
Le match le plus ennuyant de l'époque : Vilas vs Gerulaitis sur terre battue, le match pouvait durer 8 heures !!! 😂😂😂 The most boring match of the time: Vilas vs Gerulaitis on clay, the match could last 8 hours !!! 😂😂😂
Vilas jugaba con raqueta aro 75, el chino 95/100. Otras cuerdas, otras pelotas, otras raquetas. Vos pensas q las superficies de los 90 eran igual a la de los 70? Por favor. Pone Tony Nadal Vilas en Google. Ahí vas a ver a quien miraron para armar a Nadal
Para imaginarse que pasaria habria que cambiar todo. Dare como ejemplo al mismo Vilas. si pones a Vilas con el mismo entrenamiento fisico que se tiene hoy, con las mismas raquetas que se juegan hoy, o sea los pones en paridad, te puedo asegurar que con el talento que tiene el argentino le daría un baile a muchos. Y lo mismo pasaría si hicieras jugar a Federer con raqueta de madera. Si hacemos el ejercicio al revés y tomamos a Federer, Sampras, Rios, Nadal, etc. Igualmente serian buenos y serian maestros. Porque cuando un jugador es de nivel mundial como ellos siempre será bueno.
Lo increíble es que este tipo de comentarios se reiteran en referencia a archivos históricos del deporte, y que quienes los vierten no se detengan a pensar que para que la hipótesis (contrafáctica) que plantean tenga un mínimo de validez, hay que imginar a un jugador extrapolado a otra época CON los recursos de esa época. En fin, esta idea "genial" que podria resumirse como "mirá qué pelotudos, vivieron en el pasado". Lo curioso es que sin maestros como los del video estos cráneos no serían ni un comment en youtube. Saludos
They're both over their 50s, Vilas is almost 70. It would be a miracle if they take a game off Nadal. I've seen Vilas a few years ago holding his own against pro players (top 100) in practice.
@@leonardoperrotta i think he means these guys as they were (with those racquets) vs. nadal today..... one thing i will say is those groundstrokes are much deeper than what you see today. much loopier
@@smcchandler3430 true but imo those deep hits were a resource at that time and with that tech. With current rackets any pro will return a bomb to those lobs
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que jugadores, guerreros y artistas, 15 minutos de ellos son 7 horas de cualquier otro
Speachless... What a great quality!!! Thanx for sharing. Vilas for ever!!!!
Vilas never looks like he's going to miss a ball!
Wonderful, beautiful to watch. The good old days. Thanks so much!
Wow!..what an amazing match! Such beauty of strokes and strategy..
Ha! Looking back to a young up and coming Lendl ... he didn't fully know it then ... but would be one of the best players of the next decade of his era. Such a clean hitter of the ball. The "father" of the modern power game.
Very nice video with film quality. Thank You 4 person who capture and upload this. Tennis history.
A jewel!!. Lots of details in here for the tennis real fans.
Like the white balls.
Guillermo Vilas may not be the greatest men's professional tennis player ever, but he is definitely the coolest-looking ever.
VILLAS,WHAT A PLAYER.ONE OF THE GREATEST OF ALL TIMES
he isnt - at least not one of the 20 greatest players of all time
Mark Mauk Your statement is wrong.
In some list he is 14...in other 23..
Third best clay court player of all time, behind Nadal and Borg.
Interesting to see how Lendl changed his strokes over the next few years. Everything became more elongated--but especially his forehand which became a loopy whip. Also, his serve here had him landing on his back foot (very old school) and later he landed on his front.
Sam Frazier As old as it might have been Boris Becker used that tecnique too. For better or worse.
Unless I'm wrong I think Lendl is still playing with a woodie here. His baseline game definitely evolved thanks to changes in racquet tech.
@@jackquinn9535 Gabriela Sabatini used it for a while too, as did Martina Navratilova
Amazing footage! Unreal seeing this! Thanks!
It is! I was amazed at how clean both players hit the ball!!!
Iván nos hacías sufrir a todos los argentinos. Sos un grande, gracias por compartir
Outside of Borg Vilas was the best clay court player of his era. Very heavy ball and great footwork.
Was a hard working guy.
Agree wholeheartedly!
What about Wilander?
@@AlphaBravoCharlie777 wilander came long after, Vilas prime was in mid to late 70'
Que lindo era verlo jugar al tenis a Vilas. Un estilo unico.
I don't remember to watch to Ivan Lendl so young and very slim, but he was a great number one tennis player!.....
thanks for this unique upload. so clear
1980 and I can clearly see the ball! What gives? If only all the old matches were of this quality! Not only is it quite clear but the sense of speed is also enhanced.
That crowd sound is awesome, sounds like something off the Atari or Intellivision, very fitting for the year too.
Wonderful upload, thank you very much!
Lendl is drinking Pepsi on the changeovers lol and Tiriac looming in the background sending in the signals to Vilas
Muy buena imagen y calidad de video, con 2 crack
Vilas already had a kind of proto Rafa high spin ball :). So interesting to have watched this match. Among other aspects Lendl already had improved a part of his backhand long way. What age was Vilas?. Looked like very strong and well prepared fisically.
By that time these couple of excellent exponents of modern tennis did already HIT hard the ball with rather topspin aiming to short angles not only 'pushing' forward or pointing to corners. I like how well they completely covered every sides of the court to restart the point. I see Vilas heavily breathing going to his bench after a long point. Great athletes already.
28 was vilas at the time
The Best year of Vilas was 1977 (2 GSlams ..and with still some records..from that year!!
@@gusttigoll9118 17 titles and 46 winning matches in a row,still records,he finished 2 in the world that year,there are come controversies for this reason with ATP and ranking systems,Vilas still think he was number 1 for. an instant.
It's great to see Vilas take those sky-high lobs in the air. Vilas was a honest-to-goodness clay-court iron man. This must be an early Lendl appearance.
Lendl was kind of a new guy in this match.
Que grande Vilas! Se jugo el partido que el quería!
Waow this is show time !!!! Golden Age of tennis from 1975 up to 1990
WOW. Thank you for this. Lendl was just a kid here.I never remember watching him play with that racquet.
Vincent Hannah It is a Kneissl and later Adidas bought the mold so it is very similar to if not identical to the Adidas he played with later. I am trying to find a video of Lendl playing wood. He was an early adopter of modern racket technology.
J are they both playing with graphite here ?
David Mortimer I believe so.
Excelente juego del argentino
Can you imagine how hard these guys would have hit the ball with today's rackets?
This is great quality. Thank you.
Amazing clay court tennis here by two of the BEST EVER to play the game.
Thanx for the upload!
"Elisse" uniform - what a quality it was! My favorite. I played tennis with owner, italian man, one morning, during Kremlin Cup in Moscow, and he presented me big tennis bag full of staff.
what a strong mind and temple Vilas had!
I've never seen Vilas played before but has grown up hearing his name as a great tennis player. I can see how Becker might've got his serving style from. Like the swaying before the toss and the crossed legs after jumping off the serving line.
Good observation! There are really similarities in the service motion.
If I did not know the players I would never believe this was taped in 1980
The era before racquet and string technology took away much of the artistry of the sport...
yes and that's on the lack of Professional Teaching standards.
And, ham fisted coaches of bash until you drop.
Two handed grunt fests are the norm now, until somebody kacks
a weak groundstroke or error. Even first serves are NEVER (good ones)
used to follow anymore. How lame is that?
Dont forget slow surfaces, serves are pretty much useless even on grass
what i notice is how loopy many of the strokes are............ would loopiness not work on the tour these days? probably thinking more women's tour than men's
Love vilas
He was the first player l remember as a kid
He was a machine
@@smcchandler3430 I would if your name Rafael Nadal. Watch how he plays his cross court forehand most of the time. His reverse cross court forehand is much, much flatter.
Vilas a 28 ans il est au sommet de son art ,le meilleur joueur sur terre de la décennie 70 ,après Borg ,et Lendl 20 ans ,peut-être dans les 10 premiers mais inexpérimenté ,malgré une victoire sur Borg au tournoi de Bâle sur dur et une victoire en coupe David cintre L Italie Panatta
Oui Vilas, bientôt 28 ans, à l'époque , revenait tout juste à la compétition,et avait immédiatement retrouvé la forme !! malheureusement la suite de sa saison fut bien décevante avec un USOPEN 80 bien pâle
Lendl's groundies were still developing. By 1982 they looked much better, and were much more penetrating.
Vilas qui restera très performant jusqu’à l année 1982 avec encore une finale de Roland Garros et une demi-finale de l us open alors que Lendl commence époustouflante jusqu’en 1991 avec 8 grand chelem et pendant presque 5 ans numéro 1 mondial...
Two great champions
GENIO!!!!! N°1
Love the white balls ... def the good old days 😀
La grande classe, ça se voit tout de suite. Trois ans après l'interdiction du double cordage.
Tennis was much more entertaining back then. And they hit plenty hard.
Amazing first class tennis players...!
Entre 81 et 87 peu de joueurs ont pu battre Lendl sur terre (Il y eut Borg ,Mac enroe,Wilander,Noah ,Sundstrom,Glickstein ,Vilas )c était aux tournois de Roland Garros Monte Carlo,Forest Hill et la coupe Davis
Beautiful to watch, they didn't have the equipment back then to hit out right winners. Vilas looking hot in those tight shorts!
Lendl later in his career changed his backhand grip.
was vilas using a head xrc racuet in this match? not the vilas model he was using
Cependant on va le voir des 1980 en finale des Masters contre Borg sur moquette,une précocité incroyable à ce niveau et dans un tel tournoi,certainement un record
La finale d'Ivan contre Bjorn au masters en janvier 1981?
A very young Lendl full of talent and promise but definitely not yet the Robo-power machine and legend he would become known for.
Une des différences entre les 2 c'est le jeu de jambes et le déplacement et la vitesse.
Chez Borg, Gerulaitis ou Vilas (comme on le voit sur cet extrait) c'est hallucinant
McEnroe,Connors et Kriek étaient également impressionnants
Love the shorts Ivan !!WTF !!
It appears Vilas plays graphite here? Did he change back to wood-graphite after this year? He used that in 82 for sure.
Vilas 1er saque con pelotita en la mano!!.. ni en el club!!
nice upload.
man, the game here is about the precision needed to use rackets with a smaller sweet spot. i know it's clay but these guys are just standing around waiting for the opponent to hit the ball back. power/speed is not really part of the game! neither is rushing the net, at least for these guys... i mean, Vilas hits ball within inch of baseline to Lendl's backhand and still stays back!
kind of frustrating - different times, although the particular players and surface admittedly has something to do with it too.
Lendl charging the net like he’s McEnroe, but he’s not
Deux finales des Masters à moins de 22 ans dont l une gagnée,une en 80 contre Borg et l autre en 81 contre Vitas Gerulaitis
Vilas wielding the Head Edgewood
Interesting. Lendl hadnt really developed his backhand yet. He kind of pushes the ball on his backhand, where later on he had alot more power and topspin and really hit through the ball. A couple of points there i was expecting him to smash the ball away on his backhand but instead pushed it back, but a few years later those shots he would be smashing them for winners.
OMG!! This is a masterpiece indeed!! 8:34 Ivan drinking a Pepsi.
At least they were not smoking on the court :-)
Villas didn't seem to have one particular weapon except grit on clay courts
Vilas... was a bit of a cross between Borg & Nadal. But not quite as good as either one❗
Lendl the legend
Vilas and Lendl. Both built so different. Lendl is a typical bean pole tennis player who wants to carry no extra weight , including muscles. Vilas built like a boxer or rugby player. Strong as a bull. Borg always thought he could always outlast the muscled up Vilas. To me Vilas and Lendl took fitness to another level back then. Both worked out all the time , and watched there diet. Vilas , like Nadal a muscled up anomaly in tennis. Today’s players are incredibly fit , but there bean poles. Look at skinny medvedev. Weight slows you down. Vilas and Nadal were different.
Y quién ganó??
Ensuite en 82 ,85,86,87 Lendl écrase en finale des Masters Mac enroe,Becker et Wilander
Vila’s has the build of a rugby player.
Vilas was experimenting with a graphite racquet but didn't like it and went back to wood later
Time of the short shorts
we wear short shorts
This is
Lendl before he became "Lendl" -
Tough rallies
Lendl 👍
And the winners??
Vilas
Monstruos
Vilas wasn't Borg or Nadal on clay but not far behind them.
Que lindo era ver este tenis, lento
No, el tenis antes no era lento. El tenis ahora es asquerosamente rápido y cualquiera le pega con un misil y saca a más de 200 km/h.
Ivan Lendl 😍
none of them with woody rackets!!! and it s 1980!!! mc enroe used woody rackets till 1984!!!
Guillermo still did not use graphite rackets at that time. The model he uses in this match, if I am not mistaken, is the Vilas Head that is made of wood.
On the other hand, Kevin Curren also played with wood racket in 1984. Here In TH-cam there is a video of him playing with Mats Wilander.
Wasnt Vilas' racket one of the later wooden Heads, it just had graphite laminates on both sides of the racket, making it look all black and thus all graphite? :) I had a similar Pro Kennex, remember those? :D
1983.
Il avait la dunlop graphite (comme Steffi Graf) quand il a gagné wimbledon et perdu contre Scanlon à l'US open.
0 cette époque, il avait le dessus sur Lendl.
McEnroe changed to graphite in 1983 (his first tournament being the WCT final in Dallas, if I remember correctly.. where he beat Lendl in a thrilling five setter!).
april 1983 mac changed his wand.
strange time in middle of season but he won wct finals straight away.
LEDL WAS SOO GOOFY
Two players that would have killed to win Wimbledon
Comment va Vilas ?
Pas très bien, malheureusement, car Vilas souffre d'une maladie dégénérative...
En esa época le pegaban más suave a la pelota, parecen señoritas
Fome el tenis de esa epoca como mucho mas facil se vee sin potencia
this is why clay court tennis was not given much credit back then. way too much pushing the ball, etc.
Kneissl killer racket
actualmente vilas ni en una qually
Y con éso que querés decir?
Al final, Lendl.......era trolo????
Seguramente, y amargo !!!
Comentarios como el tuyo siempre nos hacen quedar mal, flaco.
looks SLOW compared to 2018
Well shit, it was only 40 years ago. Strings and rackets are a thousand times better than they used to be.
Genius
Very annoying the interferring sound when they clap.
It's amazing how slow they play they rarely hit down the line or fast winners therefore the rallies were so long.
The Raquets aren’t as powerful for hitting booming ground strokes I’d imagine ..
@@opencurtin
Yes, definitely much less easy power and spin. Vilas was an absolute powerhouse back in the day and Lendl had the most lethal forehand in the game but neither man would even try to just blast the ball off the baseline the way even wimpy guys can these days. It was counter-productive to the point of suicidal.
Lenld big big
Le match le plus ennuyant de l'époque : Vilas vs Gerulaitis sur terre battue, le match pouvait durer 8 heures !!! 😂😂😂
The most boring match of the time: Vilas vs Gerulaitis on clay, the match could last 8 hours !!! 😂😂😂
Argentine bull tops Czech colt.
Increíble esos tenistas no tendrían ninguna posibilidad hoy. Parecen aficionados de fin de semana
Jorge Díaz de tenis no entendes nada
Tienes toda la razón, Vilas con ese tenis no hubiese tenido ninguna posibilidad contra El Chino Ríos 🇨🇱🎾
Vilas jugaba con raqueta aro 75, el chino 95/100. Otras cuerdas, otras pelotas, otras raquetas. Vos pensas q las superficies de los 90 eran igual a la de los 70? Por favor. Pone Tony Nadal Vilas en Google. Ahí vas a ver a quien miraron para armar a Nadal
Para imaginarse que pasaria habria que cambiar todo. Dare como ejemplo al mismo Vilas. si pones a Vilas con el mismo entrenamiento fisico que se tiene hoy, con las mismas raquetas que se juegan hoy, o sea los pones en paridad, te puedo asegurar que con el talento que tiene el argentino le daría un baile a muchos. Y lo mismo pasaría si hicieras jugar a Federer con raqueta de madera. Si hacemos el ejercicio al revés y tomamos a Federer, Sampras, Rios, Nadal, etc. Igualmente serian buenos y serian maestros. Porque cuando un jugador es de nivel mundial como ellos siempre será bueno.
Lo increíble es que este tipo de comentarios se reiteran en referencia a archivos históricos del deporte, y que quienes los vierten no se detengan a pensar que para que la hipótesis (contrafáctica) que plantean tenga un mínimo de validez, hay que imginar a un jugador extrapolado a otra época CON los recursos de esa época. En fin, esta idea "genial" que podria resumirse como "mirá qué pelotudos, vivieron en el pasado". Lo curioso es que sin maestros como los del video estos cráneos no serían ni un comment en youtube.
Saludos
Compared to today's players, it looks like something you'd see at the local park. These guys couldn't take a game of Nadal.
They're both over their 50s, Vilas is almost 70. It would be a miracle if they take a game off Nadal. I've seen Vilas a few years ago holding his own against pro players (top 100) in practice.
@@leonardoperrotta i think he means these guys as they were (with those racquets) vs. nadal today..... one thing i will say is those groundstrokes are much deeper than what you see today. much loopier
Let's see how Rafa plays with one of these glorified caveman clubs and natural gut strings. 😏
@@smcchandler3430 true but imo those deep hits were a resource at that time and with that tech. With current rackets any pro will return a bomb to those lobs
Balls weren’t as lively on clay. The courts slower. Less powerful racquets and strings.
SE ANDAN PAREJOS CON EL PASTEL DE MASSU OTRA VERGUENZA DEL TENIS JAJAJAJAJA JAJAJAJAJA...
Warming up hitting nowadays is more intense than this rallys. Funny to see.
This guys won't take a set from me nowadays!!!!!!!!!
Roger Federer with those old school racquets would still easily crush these guys 6-0, 6-0.