FF7 Rebirth’s Co-Director Wants to Make the Trilogy's Ending More Moving Than the Original
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- Let's check out the latest info for Final Fantasy VII Remake Part 3 directly from Motomu Toriyama where talks about wanting to make the trilogy's ending more moving than the original games.
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As an OG FFVII fan I never found the ending particularly moving, more confusing and disappointing than anything else. All we got after Meteor was destroyed was a flash forward to 500 years later and everyone but Red XIII and his clan was wiped out. Uh, yay? Totally worth the 50+ hours spent. Then as far as sequels all we got was Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus. 'Nuff said really. I was ECSTATIC when Remake introduced the concept of changing fate just for an ending that does justice to the world of FFVII and all its characters.
The original ending was moving solely for how it showed Aerith's image, at the end.
It was a nod to the scene at the game's opening, where Aerith watched mako leaking from a pipe.
In the ending, the callback to that scene implied that Aerith's prayer had succeeded and that she, Holy, and the Lifestream were successful in stopping Meteor. It's implied that most or all of humankind was wiped out, but at least the Planet and not all creatures were totally destroyed.
It indicated that Aerith's death was a sacrifice and one that was not done in vain. The one major question that was open-ended was whether or not she had any idea that she would die, as a result of her efforts to stop Sephiroth.
From the context in Rebirth, it feels like she DID know that she would ultimately die, at least somewhere along this journey. Again, it's not outright stated, but there are hints.
I tought I was the only felling disappointed by the ending 😂😂😂😂 glad I'm not the only one. It literally just ends... And yeah. No explanation no nothing. It just ends.
I see your point but I truly loved the ending back then. It felt bittersweet and left us wondering, but at the
same time told us all we needed to know. It was obvious that Meteor was stopped because Midgar’s structure was still more or less standing, albeit forsaken. When Advent Children came out it started to feel a little bit weird for me…
We got a problem now. They'll have to go 500 years later and show us optimism. Made 'Aeris' Green Energy company booming would great !!!
Or even the Maycomb Bloom Co. would be nice.
The ending wasn't satisfying to me either. There was so much that was left to the imagination which the compilation gave more context and an expansion but definitely not a tying of all loose ends. Also the rumor for many years that Aeris could be revived also didn't help. Advent Children gave it a bit more of a bittersweet ending, I do like how realistic they made the story because dealing with survivors guilt and remorse was a very powerful theme. Dirge of Cerebus was more or less an extension to Vincent's and Yuffie's story in a sense as they were the optional characters-- the ending with Genesis survival never got resolved so I would love to see that resolved.
The developers specifically said that the trilogy “ties to” Advent Children. Tying to something doesn’t mean linking or leading to so that’s not where this is going, I’m seeing a lot of ppl get this wrong. We already saw how this story ties to AC in part 1 when we fought the sephiroth variants in their whisper forms. Advent Children is done here.
I WANT you to be right so badly.
I thought AC was mid af so I too hope you are right. Maybe Nomura realized after actually playing the game of FFVII that his sequels did no justice to it whatsoever.
I think the desire is for Cloud’s final showdown to include mirror beats from adventure children.
I think it’s meant to a less ambiguous ending that OG that skips AC from happening.
@@loregasmic You do know Nomura came up with the concept of the story together with FF creator Hironobu Sakaguchi? I think he would know the story more than any of us. Look in the FF7 Prelude intro in the original game when you pop in the game and let it play on its own it will show those credits and near the end it shows his name with Sakaguchi. I'm just saying this to remind people why he does what he does and pissing us off with the way it's been going in the remakes.
@NAzo.
I actually like where the remakes are going, but only if they end on their own merit. I was never interested in a faithful remake because I feel like the OG is perfect the way it is so if we’re going to come back to this world I’d be down for something different, but that’s only if they commit to it and have some guts.
I’m totally down for the big reveal of this being a sequel and this is all happening many years after the events of the OG and the planet has recreated timelines to try and weed out Sephiroth from the lifestream. I know there’s some ppl who wouldn’t want that but it would make me happy personally.
Sephiroth is gonna get some kind of redemption at the very, very end, I'm calling it. No, he will not become the hero. He will attempt to carry out his nefarious plans until the very last second, until our heroes manage to talk him down to surrender, after many grueling battles, the near end of the world and final boss. It's the only way I see full closure
This game is about NOT having a happy ending. About it being grounded in reality. That's the beauty of it.
In classic theater children stories have morals or happy endings. Adults get tragedy (the reality) or comedy (for escapism).
i disagree, sad / tragedy ending allready happen in ff7 and many other ff franchise, they need happy ending to close this ff7 franchise
This news has certainly gotten more cogs whirring in me. Great coverage, thank you!
Awesome video!
@3:05 Actually, the ending to the original FF7 did tell us everything is ok and we won because we get a scene I think its was 500 years in the future and it shows midgard in ruins and nature taking over.
Yup, FF7 already had happy ending for long ago.
The ending also imply that humanity is basically gone... so idk how happy that is, even if you really big on nature.
Yeah, a future without humans.
the theme of cherishing every moment and everything in your life has been a theme repeated theme since advent children.
i honestly think theyll tie it to how many moments we cherish in the OG ff7 and how we all relived it in the remakes and thus the remakes wil be self validating. (but this ties into my own theorycrafting on how the remake continuity fit into the OG continuity)
I don’t know how they could wrap all of it in one game. With the end of rebirth, we are nearly at a third of the OG, and this is without counting the deep ground stuff…
Sometimes I wish they add a fourth game to finish it as well as they expand the first part of the story.
I agree 100%
They cut a chapter of Tifa's adventure and investigation into Don Corneo, that could have been a nice short fun chapter adventure for Tifa and just to give it some icing on the cake, they could have made Jessie a support character helping Tifa in secret perhaps even in battle as well like Sonon was for Yuffie.
They could have also made Biggs and Wedge minor playable characters and opened up the Sector 8 Slums with a variety of side quests and optional story and also allowed for Cloud to return to the plate even. I really wanted to see Tifa and Aerith go shopping on the plate incognito, that would have been fun even if it would have been a small optional minor mini chatper where the objective is to have fun and while up there they could get access to the EVER CRISIS outfits by buying them. They could spread out the outfits through the trilogy in optional fun chapters.
I had originally thought it was going to be 4 parts if they plan on addressing everything in the compilation. Technically they still can. If the appetite for part 3 goes well, then they could theoretically do a sequel that does so.
I think the first half of part 3 is going to be a more linear, blitzkrieg type of story.
It really doesn’t make sense to have the open world stuff while Cloud is fucked in the head and until they get the Highwind.
So I think we’re going to get A LOT more story in part 3 than part 2 (and I mean Sephiroth, Jenova, Shinra, Wutai plot, not the more character specific stuff we have in part 2).
The tone of the game would be so weird to be herding chickens again while the entire party is mourning Aerith’s death and hyper concerned about wtf is wrong with Cloud.
The end of rebirth is more of a halfway point in the OG.
They’ve certainly got the tools to make it that way. Let’s hope that they can stick the landing.
My only guess for after the final game would be maybe tying up any loose ends from the end of DoC that were never answered or they do an anthology book like On the Way to a Smile that tells us what happened to everyone, including the side characters we’ve gotten to know, and how their lives changed
All I know is that third game better be jaw dropping all the time, we got too little story in rebirth, and it leaked into the ever crisis mobile game, which was a huge mistake imo, they need to go all out in that third game and not hold back at all.
I think it will.
Rebirth was for world building and character building.
I basically see things as:
- Remake: let’s figure out the battle system
- Rebirth: let’s figure out the world and characters
- Part 3: ok now you love the world and the characters. Jenova and Sephiroth are trying to destroy it, so you’re going to care.
Remember, disc 2 in the OG is where the majority of the plot points occur. Shit gets absolutely crazy after the Forgotten Capital.
Northern Crater itself has more plot points alone than most of the game leading up to it.
Throw on escape from Junon, Huge Materia, raid on Midgar, Lifestream sequence, Rocket town, and now they’re hinting that there’s going to be a huge Wutai storyline. I think you’re gonna get exactly what you ask for. Vincent’s optional storyline in the OG will also likely be main story considering how tied he is to Sephiroth.
Not to mention, the side quests are going to be epic. Weapons. Getting everyone’s ultimate weapons. Some crazy chocobo breeding shit. There’s the queens blood stuff coming back somehow. And I would imagine Gilgamesh returns in some capacity.
@@thatstheway2429part 3 will be fire. I’m looking forward when they head back to forgotten capital with Buggenhaggen and Tifa fixing cloud mental state
@@MyUnitProcess absolutely.
Also very excited to see how the weapon fights work.
I wonder how many Gigs the 3rd part will be.
*If* they stay true to the 3rd portion from the OG, we should be able to visit every town that Rebirth has, PLUS parts of Midgar, PLUS the underwater ocean area, PLUS Wutai and the Great Crater, plus the Junon slap fight with Scarlet and Tifa, PLUS the Weapon battles, PLUS Rocket Town etc. That's like 200 plus Gigs, imo, IF they give us all access to all/most previously discovered areas.
You forgot going to space!
They’ve hinted that Wutai is going to be massive as well.
tbh i found the ending of rebirth more moving than the original aerith death. not trying to be contrarian but i honestly love the ending
Agree. Especially knowing we'll likely get even more regarding it in Part 3.
Now that’s a hot take. But I agree. But for, part of the reason I was more emotional is bc they gave me hope that she could be alive somehow this time.
he said they will be expanding on the original ending moving on past it with more story
Regarding the Kitase comment of part 3 leading into Advent Children; nobody said that the third and final part could only have 1 ending. As the conclusion to the trilogy, it's well within the realm of possibility to have alternate endings. Considering all of the differences from the OG, the plot might even encompass a timeloop with the OG ending leading into Advent Children which leaves Cloud with all of his (re)grets which are carried back to the beginning of Remake. Since Advent Children leads to Sephiroth reappearing, then logically, a "golden" OG ending where he's finished off for good is impossible and beg the question as to why retell the game with the promise of "defying fate"? If the series to going to conclude for good, there has to be an alternate ending that wraps up all the extended universe materials.
It’s been 27 years of suffering.
Let the poor girl live. She deserves it!
No
@@Justajawnie Yes. No other character in the game has been through more than her.
Doing things exactly the same is boring and stupid.
@@fearlesscheshirecat1411 don’t care. No
@@Justajawnie Evidently you do care because you’re on my comment idiot lmfao 🤣
@@Justajawnie Evidently you do care…..you’re on my comment d*mbass lmfao 🤣
This is gonna be one hell of a feat, even for Nomura.
Nomura's done some genuinely terrible stuff.
I just hope they can do something that'll genuinely surprise us. I just want something that's satisfying and something that can stand on it's own feet.
Keep in mind there's so much left to resolve in the third game. Hell I'm gonna come out and say this but if really wanna do something daring with this project make someone/something else the last boss and not Sephiroth.
No I'm not saying give him a redemption arc. Still keep him evil but throw something else at us after. Feels like if they could pull something like that then it'll make this whole Remake project it's own thing.
Sephiroth Is not evil 😂...he's Just a prisoner no more and no less than Cloud..The devs are trying to make us understand this in every possibile way
@@federicamacchia1656 I just hope they don’t redeem him and make him a good guy. Cause I swear to god if I see a scene of Cloud, Zack and Sephiroth being all bro esque I’ll flip my lid.
An enemy can be an antagonist whitout being necessarily evil....he'll NEVER be the good guy,this Is Cloud's role,but he Is not even the villain...Try to think to Ardyn Izunia...in the end he's still an enemy,but you finish to love him more than the protagonist..He didn't habe a redemption arc Because he doesn't need one : he simply needs Justice,to find his peace and ha e a good closure.Well,for Sephiroth Is more or less the same
@@federicamacchia1656 ahhh good point. If they go that route and execute it properly it could be very good.
@@federicamacchia1656 Except Nojima said that Sephiroth is the ultimate evil for the world of FFVII. He's not just another puppet being controlled by Jenova, he was always in-control, even when he finally awakened to his "true nature". That's why Sephiroth surpasses Jenova and is the one conducting her will from within the Lifestream until his revival in the Northern Crater.
Happy to hear it. I’d love for Aerith to get a proper goodbye to the party this time.
She’ll live
What do you mean? She was skewered and died in front of them. She was given a funeral.
That is as much of a proper good bye as it gets.
@@crowevil4658 That's arguable...
@@Absoluuttinen_Totuus one can still grieve long after losing some. But they had closure. They know how she died, that she was dead, and acknowledged it with a burial.
@@crowevil4658 Yes, but it all happened in such a short space of time that the ending as a whole was a bit unceremonic. It didn't reach its full potential in the story.
Not that I'm against a brief death, but I just think Aerith's character was developed too little in the original and she deserves a more in-depth send-off. Or maybe she will survive in some way🤷♂️ I wouldn't be against that either, as long as it's done in a cathartic way.
I want to know what accessories he’s using for Red XIII. None of my characters decrease Kujata’s HP that quickly from basic attacks.
but its like saying, yes ill see them again after he is dead and within the lifestream, so i guess thats why aerith says *everyone eventually dies* it still feels like its a bittersweet ending if they did it that way other than everyone that would like it though.
Motomu Toriyama being the guy who had FF13's ramshackle trilogy end with everyone migrating to Earth btw.
True, but then why bother with fate? Why not just do a faithful remake? (Sorry dude, this was meant for @wmen48)
Make Aerith dead for good this time. That's the ending I want. Don't Marvel this game please.
"I guess I just want to be forgiven."
"Oh? By who?"
I'm not expecting a radically different ending here. Especially if they're going to insist on "linking it up" with Advent Children. The characters still have to end up in the same place for that to work. But! I could see them adding an extended epilogue that takes place after Advent Children and Dirge of Cerberus.
For what it's worth, unless Rebirth sells extremely well on PC or Remake Part 3 leads to a huge boost in sales of previous games, I highly doubt we'll see and future VII content afterwards. The low sales probably aren't encouraging.
At this point
I'm hoping so! XD
Guilt isn't all there is to it
It would have been cool if they would have made the trilogy into a multi-ending story depending on what you do in the previous games
that would be dope but would be hell for the developers lol
They shouldve j6st made a long advent children sequel to ff7 cant beat 2 sword cloud
She’s says “I saw what you did for me back there, thank you.”
She’s referring to when he laid her to rest. During the “I got this” scene.
Ya no
Thanks for the comment!!! I've been wondering about her comment in that scene, but I haven't seen ANYONE ELSE discuss that moment.
I agree with you - those were my thoughts, too.
During the end-of-the-world date, I also think there was more alluded to than what was said.
When Cloud and Aerith leave her house, she tells Cloud not to look up because he won't like what he sees. Cloud replies that now he HAS to look and Aerith sarcastically says something along the lines of "Me and my big mouth!" I suspect that Aerith was actually telling him not to look up because she KNEW that now Cloud would, in the other world/timeline, when Sephiroth was supposed to kill her. My instincts are telling me that this line was intentional and coming from more of an all-knowing Aerith.
One other thought - at the end of the game, when Cloud and Aerith stand back to back as her image slowly fades, I couldn't get over how much the fading Aerith looks like PS1 (in-battle character sprite) Aerith, in those final seconds. Coincidental, or is this a nod to which version of Aerith (or whatever you want to call it) we are seeing?
Some interesting thoughts that have my brain swimming!
@@Digital_David precisely, these people hoping and claiming Aerith is alive in some other timeline. That Cloud in fact saved her, are just as delusional as Cloud (Developers intent perhaps?) As Sep said, he cannot see the truth with such Clouded eyes.
@@zacatkinson3926brilliant insight lol Would you please explain what you thought Aerith meant?
That doesn’t make any sense considering the fight occurs before she is presumably laid to rest.
I would love nothing more than for the AC portion of the timeline to be averted in this reboot.
Although unfortunately statements made previously up until now have indicated otherwise.
This could simply mean that AC will also get a reboot that connects to this continuity and that won't be nearly as bad or dystopian. (If so hopefully they'll handle cloud and Tifa better).
But of course even with all that said it's not as if . They could have just been saying that to not give away the ending, or they could be changing their minds as they're making part 3. I don't think either of those is likely but it's possible.
At the end of the day I at least hope it's true, or at least the AC will be remade in a better way than it originally was. Because its original form was absolutely horrible.
Going into it that the original ending was “bad” is not a good sign as an approach to writing a remake/continuation of one of the most beloved games of all time
Let’s face it. The original ending wasn’t complete. Even the creators acknowledged that. Why do you think there were CD dramas and extra stories published afterwards? Because the creators wanted a more definitive conclusion to the main story.
@@phantomslay5612 there were sequels because of a management change at square, hence the many sequels to FF games. There’s been supplemental continuations for other FF games prior to this too.
The creators can acknowledge something to promote their latest thing if they want, that doesn’t mean their old writing was bad, that all of the original staff that added the most beloved elements, or that the new elements added in the Remake series are good or even jive with the original theme or expand on it in any meaningful way.
@@Djamp_htx Maybe you don't understand the added story elements and themes of the Remake series? I implore you to go and watch Joshiepoo's supercut video. He explains everything well for the more metacognitively lazy fans.
@@Absoluuttinen_Totuus it’s a fantasy game, not Citizen Kane. It’s not hard to understand. It simply isn’t well written or competently composed beyond its spectacle and novelty.
Equating dislike with a lack of understanding is pretty low iq funnily enough
@@Djamp_htx No, your analysis is just on American level. Don't try to get out of this now. The hard-working writers took inspiration from various philosophies of life when they were creating this story, and saying it's badly written when the ambiguities that arose with that approach are simply too much for you to handle is disrespectful.
Media literacy is unfortunately lackluster in the gaming community these days...
Id rather them not. They already made this all an acid trip, imo. At least they did well in the party interacting together.
Personally I've felt that this trilogy is a soft reboot of the FF7 world, We'll see the crew again Square wont bail on FF7 permanently after the trilogy
perhaps they will do advent children in video game form? but expand on it
@@TheGOATRammus Maybe who knows
Oh, they’ve already made it clear in interviews that FF7 (more specifically the “world” of FF7) will continue after the remake trilogy ends so dont you worry about that.
@@azureknight729 I heard that too , I hope so
@@azureknight729 But the question is how long until a new story after the trilogy?
Does anyone think there will be a reveal in Part 3 that something that happened in the OG didn’t actually happened the way we thought it did? Something that will recontextualize the entire legacy of the franchise? And I don’t just mean the usual “cope” change. I mean potentially something even worse actually happened…
I actually think yes, but it will be more about events before the game.
Eg something to do with Hojo and what he did to Sephiroth, Cloud or maybe Vincent.
Or potentially some of the things that Jenova has secretly been doing.
besides the original story elements nothing else about the remake has been moving
You could say Flashfront and Flashback, you could Final Fantasy 7 Remade 1 Remake, Remade 2 Rebirth, Remade 3 Re??????????😮😊
Whatever. I just hope they don’t bungle the ending. I don’t hate Rebirth’s ending as much as others, but they completely fumbled Aerith’s death. I’m not confused, but the emotional impact was totally gone.
Disagree, didn't fumble it at all. Made it more painful in some ways, and setting up even greater payoff for Cloud's scenes in Part 3.
@@Dayv018I agree with both of you.
I don’t think the execution of the scene was great. I enjoyed it on repeat watches and thinking about it, but I still think they could have done the setup for part 3 while not having it be bouncing all over the place.
I do agree that what it’s setting up in the climax will be incredible.
It wouldn't have had the emotional impact anyway. Don't get me wrong, seeing it as we expected to would still have been sad. But it was never going to the shocking gut punch it was the first time you played the OG.
We'll see in the next game when they finally show it.
@@drewtheunspoken3988 Agreed, it'll definitely get revealed during the big Cloud scene. Watching him have to accept it will be the payoff.
Awesome video and I really hope your comments become a reality in the final game. I love Cloud and he so deserves a happy ending with Tifa!
Kitase outright said that the end of the trilogy will directly link-up to the AC film, so it's still going to happen. He also said that as much he wants everyone to have a happy ending at the end of Part 3, it's "not going to just be sunshine and rainbows". So, there will be a lot of wrap-up for most of the characters, but I think it's obviously not going to be the case for Cloud because of AC.
Good luck with that, they've already fucked the whole project up.
I wonder if anything tragic is gonna happen in Part 3. Rebirth already made me so sad.
More tragic than watching Cloud lay Aerith to rest in the lake? I'm both eager to see that play out and dreading it.
If Nomura really wants to tie the loose ends he has to also do so for all the characters in the compilation, including Dirge of Cerebus, Before Crisis, Crisis Core, and all the novels. I just don't see how he does it all in part 3 without making it much bigger than rebirth. If we get no DLCs for Rebirth which so far they have said no plans, I would imagine they would do so for part 3.
They need to resolves the story arcs for:
- Genesis & Angeal
- Elfe & Verdot
- All the player Turks (11 of them) and the Turks themselves
- Rufus Shinra along with his little brother Evan from the Kid's are Alright (and Leslie & Kyrie)
- All the Tsviets, Nero, Weiss, Rosso, Azul, Shelke, Argento, Pummel, and Usher.
- Glenn, Lucia, and Matt whom were mentioned and what if Glenn turns out to be Cloud's father?
- Denzel
- Minvera and LOVELESS
- Kadaj, Yazoo, and Loz
- Lazard and any other siblings Rufus may have had.
I think we will get a Dirge of Cerebus remaster like Crisis Core got. It would be nice if they remade Before Crisis, that game desperately needs a remake. I don't see them ending this series like this. Ever Crisis will be around for the forseeable future as we have seen Young Angeal with Sephiroth... what new elements will they introduce into the compilation. FF VII has become a saga and as long as there is an appetite for it, it will continue someway somehow. Nomura had said he hopes the series continues on after the trilogy.
Personally I think Aerith and Zack will live on in another world... so the ending will be bittersweet for all the characters to say good bye to both Aerith and Zack as they go and finish living their lives out in another world. What I would really like is for Minerva to step in and allow Aerith and Zack to live in the main world and give them that happy ending they deserve.
Really intriguing👍🏻😎
@@dariusjarvis1992 the compilation is the longest other than the online games in the series
tbh not realistic in a span of 3 years unless they wanna make the game really long which i doubt.
@@dekaynine6347 I don't see how either... if they only resolve only what happened in the trilogy then it will leave many loose ends
"more moving" as if multiverse triple clouds fighting 2 sephirots from different universes destroying the world in parallel universe is anything but boring
I'm sure there's still division over how we're supposed to interpret the ending of Rebirth. Some think Cloud saving Aerith is all in his head while others believe he saved her by creating branching timelines where she dies in the "Rebirth" timeline while surviving in the "Deflection" timeline. I happen to be part of the latter. Even if she still becomes part of the Lifestream with Zack at the end of Part 3, it would be nice to get closure for all of the characters with one last goodbye between all of them. There's enough of an open ending to Rebirth to believe that that's the direction the devs are heading in.
Just stop ruining our game no multiverses know everyone lives forever, know it's always going to be happy all the time, stop ruining our game
Maybe you don't understand the added story elements and themes of the Remake series? I implore you to go and watch Joshiepoo's supercut video. He explains everything well for the more metacognitively lazy fans.
There is no multiverse. They’ve never talked about different timelines, or different universes.
Sephiroth is very clear. There is ONE planet, housing multiple worlds. But none of these other worlds will last.
The OG ending was fine until AC undermined it. Part 3 needs to avoid AC or supersede it.
Cloud with Aerith, Zack with Cissnei. That's the happy ending. Thank you
Tifa with Rufus probably.
Sorry but Clifa is canon
Tifa with Johnny 😂
Zack coming home to meet Cissnei and his parents one last time would be awesome. Cloud and Tifa will be together, no matter what else happens.
Thank fuck none of those things will happen.
Or... They realise that the majority of the compilation is terrible and just stick to expanding on the genius of FF7 OG?
This is the last chance square enix has, they need to put their foot down and wrap up the story with clarity. With no bias it’s so ridiculously clear that Cloud and Aerith are the intended canon lovers, they need to end the 27 year long back and forth once and for all and stop trying to please the entire fanbase torn between tifa and Aerith by beating around the bush. Cant please everyone without destroying the story
Oh nonsense
Your bias shipping is creeping out dude. Cloud wants and needs both Aerith and Tifa without either he was out of his mind and lost. You Cloud+Tifa and Cloud+Aerith shippers are so blinded by your shipping you can't see what's been there since the original game. Did you even notice how Nojima wanted the relationship between Tifa and Aerith to be even more closer than the original game and succeeded? Looks to me it was not noticed how Tifa was so distraught afterwards and Red tries to be there and on top of that since we now know even more about her and Jessie.
@@NAzo. I don’t need to have this back and forth I don’t have an agenda, I see what the story is and I’m just stating it. If you think the romance is determined based on how much they helped cloud then the one blinded is you. There’s optional romance then there’s romance literally tied to the story which always consists of cloud and Aerith. You even have a whole chapter dedicated to them having a date and her confessing she likes cloud while it’s obvious cloud loves her. And it so coincidentally happens to be that whatever decision based cutscenes that include Aerith seem to seamlessly fit with the story and doesn’t look like fanbase satisfaction. If playing the game you won’t see then what I say is just air in your ears
@@glory3243 This is more than just the dates this is the entirety of the story. Get over yourself you weirdo shipper.
@@NAzo.dude don’t engage with these shippers. They’re certified insane.
I don’t think they understand how human relationships work.
Advent children won’t be avoided though, they have said that everything will lead to advent children. I’m sure they will even try to make advent children a game this time around.
Well, so far, they messed up two times. 😂
Because they weren't meant to be endings, uh hurrrrr
Go watch Joshiepoo's supercut video on the game's story. The remake series is actually pretty clever, but you just need to get rid of that lackluster metacognition to understand it. The simplistic understanding of the philosophies used in the original FFVII is not enough anymore.
Nah, they've just been working on setting up later parts each time, but some people can't live without a water burial.
@@Dayv018 Exactly💯
I hope Cloud gets the ending he deserves.
Just imagine it, after defeating Sephiroth, he and the party say one last goodbye to Lifestream Aerith.
Cloud and Tifa end up together. They build a home. We’re getting a romantic scene at the end, Tifa’s getting all sexy and has her bedroom eyes.
Cloud is getting ready to walk in, and what does he hear?
“I’m waiting, Cloud”. Daddy Sephy never leaves 🥰
Or The audience can pick whether Cloud joins the party or joins Aerith... That would be so brave.
I don't trust Toriyama. There are reasons.
FFX2 being one
well they already screwed it up, so that ain't happening.
Already great, and setting up to be greater.
@@Dayv018 oki delusional :D
@@kukukachu To each their own, it's been fantastic so far. Cloud's scene about to be insane in Part 3, mark my words.
@@Dayv018yep. The lifestream sequence was my favorite moment in gaming, and it’s set up to be even better this time.
@@Dayv018 indeed/ Enjoy is you enjoy, but as I said, they already screwed it up.
I really hope Aerith destiny change in Ramake part 3, she deserves live happily and i want to see her in futur Final Fantasy games
No point. It’s pretty clear FF7 fans have abandoned this non canon reimagined fan fiction.
It literally only sold 2.5M copies. Flop.
"Co-Director wanting to make the trilogy's ending more moving than the original." TLDR: Create happy ending for god sake. We need to put some positive 'contribution' and make world a little bit more happy and positive. Enough with tragedy. From c*vid times to Gaza and war in Ukraine. Truly expected that Aerith wouldnt die this time around in this 'possible' universe. Yet you made ANOTHER but same tragedy served to us with heavy tears. Havent you already made it "moving enough" with another Aerith d*ath scene on FF7Rebirth? How will this end? Yes we wonder like a horrible game of throne style again? Yes we know you want to create even "higher lvl" of what FF7remake and FF7rebith did. But sometimes you go overboard and overthink to much and cant see the clear and simple picture. Of understand the back to basic and or out if the box. Enough with tragedy or sadness. MAKE a HAPPY but very creative ending. Period! Thats all we need.
Make someone important die. How else?