The Hanging of Robert Prager
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- When the United States entered World War I, President Wilson needed to create a nation of patriots. But the manipulation of the media had unintended consequences such as the night when a German immigrant named Robert Prager was lynched by a mob in Collinsville, Illinois.
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Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.
perfect reminder today, thank you.
Democrats?!?
@@grannyblinda
Self righteous assholes!
Linda, what’s that have to do with anything.
@frankos rooni haha
Such a heartbreaking story, for Mr. Prager and our country. What a disgrace.
That’s America for you
My Mom was born in 1921. Her entire ancestry was German her grandparents having been immigrants in the 1880s. Her family spoke German until WWI. I asked her once "Mom, how was your family treated during the first World war?" She just looked at me and started to cry. It's the only time I ever saw her do that in her entire life.
Thank you for sharing this important information this history indeed deserves to be remembered
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That's a dam shame, this is what they do all over world ,chaos , threats you name it. I mad listening to this
Yes, liberty cabbage for saurkraut, hot dogs for frankfurters and alsatian for German Shepherd dogs.
Fortunately, we only had 2 years, but the followon Prohibition further demonized german industries.
This is the good stuff, the History that they would never teach in a public school. Thank you again History Guy.
With a number of "teachers" already teaching their own version of history in a manner that makes our more impressionable young folks feel a sense of disdain towards our nation now, we are already lost unless we can reverse this trend very soon. The radical left would have you believe it was all the white mans fault for slavery in the USA, conveniently leaving out that their own people captured and sold them into slavery. We are also the first country to abolish slavery. They are trying to stamp out that America was founded by (mostly) Christians who had come over here to avoid persecution. They would have you believe those men were not to be respected. They are trying to demolish our history by removing statues, monuments, art and destroying records of our history. IF we do not remember our past AND LEARN FROM OUR MISTAKES, we are doomed to repeat them. God Bless America again, He knows the trouble we are in.
Mark Chapmon, thanks for your reply.
USA was not the first country to abolish slavery. England abolished slavery 30 years before Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation in 1833.
David Silva, thank you for the correction.
@@markchapmon8670 The US was actually one of the last countries to abolish slavery. England abolished in 1834, France in 1848, Spain in 1542 (really the first nation to abolish slavery), the Netherlands officially in 1848, really in 1863 and so on.
None of those other countries risked civil war over slavery, and it was mostly symbolic for them. Their slave agriculture was in their colonies.
My grandfather, Charles Schilling of Kankakee Illinois, was also threatened with violence if he did not buy bonds to prove his loyalty to America. He had to mortgage the farm to buy them. It took him most of the rest of his life to pay that loan off. The army also “drafted” two of his horses. One named Bill, was my fathers favorite. He was 8 years old at the time. He always talked about Bill.
Thank you.
How disgusting! You know, we may be in 2020 but still have significant portion of society that still pitchfork and torches people. Look at how they act in this small pandemic. Many have no common sense. People have been assaulted by these pitch fork and torches people for sneezing, not keep social distances. We like to pride ourselves in not being like our ancestors, but we are like them in many ways. At least our ancestors lacked education, lack of info whereas we have access to world wide web info, yet still act the irrational, hysterical fools
He was 8 years old and forced to buy bonds. Shocking.
Hanoi tripper. My grandfather had to buy the bonds not my 8 yr old dad. Dumb ass.
Wooossshhh
Shocking how people may consider themselves good and righteous, while simultaneously divesting themselves of any semblance of human decency.
To wit. today's rabid and near-religious crusading political environment.
@@johnchambers2996 I was thinking Planned Parenthood.....
Well Edison, abortion is often seen as some sort of sacrament.
@@edisonfrisbee6345 idiot
Every morning when I got to school out near Boskydell this older kid would punch my arm very hard to make a man of me. His father and uncles were cops and firemen in Carbondale. He would tell us how his grandfathers had been in the Klan. That was the 2nd wave Klan of the 1910s and 1920s that was anti bootlegger and anti immigrant and anti union mob so they would be the guys trying to save this German's life I think. This history is really complex and fascinating and I think finding it out is key to understanding our present time and the forces at play.
I already knew about the lynching of Robert Prager, but what really caught me was Roberts last letter, written in a hurry with a few little orthography errors (probably because he lived fo such a long time in a largely english speaking environment). If you read something like this, a desperate man's last message to his loved ones, in your mothertongue (I am German) it really breaks your heart. Great work "History Guy", your videos are always very informative and of high quality, with a presentation that is thought provoking as well as humane. (If this is the right word)
Humane fits there perfectly.
I had the same reaction to reading the letter in German. Truly heartbreaking.
Humane is the perfect word.
I was surprised by how confident the hand-writing looks. I think mine would have been a little shaky, in the circumstances ... !
@ thousands of white men were LYNCHED in this country also. And in Europe. Look it up. You aren't that special, idiot.
A prime example of "The Psychology of the Mob".
They still stir the mobs. See Antifa and look at the ideas and motivations of almost every mass shooter.
It’s sad that so many people are susceptible to mob mentality. We have no individuals anymore
Thank you for telling us about him. Poor man just trying to work. I tried not to cry.
I absolutely Love the way this man teaches History.
You keep churning out gripping and riveting tales of history. Thank you.
Marcel Cousineau yeah, be aware. shit can get out of hand quicker than one might thing
Thank u, Mr. History Guy. I had no idea. Is History repeating itself now in 2018? For what it's worth, I am now a recently retired white guy I am not a racist bigot nor do I feel I am entitled. I am not of wealth. Also, an old boss of mine is of African descent, college educated , etc. Made more money than me. Good 4 him. Matter of fact, I've had a number of folks that were my superiors over the years who were of African descent. Good sharp folks. THE U.S.A is changing for the better. I hate lies & deceit. If we forget history, we are doomed to repeat its mistakes. P.S. In 1980, I was getting ready to graduate from college here in Okla. When that missile silo in Arkansas had an accident in 1980, just what do u think we all thought? Scared as Hell!!! My granddaughter is of Cherokee descent. The Tribes here in OK are doing good things for people, And many voices heard in the National News Media derisively call us caucasians 'entitled'. I suggest some folks go read about George Bernard Shaw (hmm. Pygmallion/My Fair Lady). Shaw was a rich person but also believed in Communism. I can't stand hypocrites either. I do know this, racism knows no bounds in our world. And yes, I am so far from perfect it's not even funny, and was able to go to college because of college loans made available by our Govt. Which I paid off when i finally able to find to find a decent paying job. And again, I do know lots of folks whose skin hue is different than mine. They are good folks just like me. And someone wants to claim that women here in 'fly over' land only do what their husbands tell em what to do & think? I say, 'Hogwash'. I've seen those Nazi Skinhead types during my lifetime. Well, not nice of me to say, but, yeah, I like The US Marines' saying, shoot first and ask questions sometime later. MR HISTORY GUY, THANK U AGAIN SO MUCH 4 YOUR WORK. I,'ll be signing up in the future to help financially support this channel. In the coming year. I do have rich tastes. Unfortunately, budget ain't. I really don't know how lucky I am. Dad came home alive from Europe after WW II, and was able to go 2 school because of the GI Bill. I also suggest others go talk with folks who lived under totalitarian regimes. I've also seen personally one of those ########### nazi tattoos on someone's skin. THe Holocaust did happen. People can hate on me all they want. I know evil when I see it. Peace to all, life isn't exactly easy, and I ain't a flatearther,
history repeats its self if you refuse to learn from it
It rhymes but does not repeat.
Yes sir it does.
Damn right my brother is on his 4th marriage!!!!!😜 Love is a game but, marriage is a GAMBLE!
Have you envisioned an ass whoopin?
those who refuse to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, while those who do learn from history are doomed to watch everyone else repeat it.
A well told, awful tale - and it is ABSOLUTELY history that deserves (needs) to be remembered.
So true
Needs to be rememberd
Agreed, as my Prussian Jewish Grandfather's family had to use false papers to flee to the US because my Great Grandfather had been drafted during WWI.
Had they "obeyed the law" as Trump puts it, they would have been turned into soap or grit for icy roads by the Third Reich...
@@davidhollenshead4892 So where's the world war these people Trump is talking about being fought right now?
I see what you're TRYING to say but you fail in your attempt because the times are COMPLETELY different. You either fail to see that or you like so many others you pick and choose which bits and pieces of information to use to push your own narrative.
@@davidhollenshead4892 Your ineptitude at trying to make Trump's immigration policies look like he is sending people to their deaths is almost funny. But in the context you put such imbecilic remarks, it makes it quite sickening and reinforces the reason this history needs to be remembered. You can't seem to understand that there are some earth-changing differences in the times and culture of your grandfather and the times and culture of America today... and people like you vote... omg, it's amazing we haven't already fallen into the abyss.
The hypnotic trance of patriotism and the sycophantic crowd it creates. RIP. Robert Prager.
Nationalism, not Patriotism, big difference!
Jaime Alonzo Or today’s leftist crowd? Do you see how it starts? You assign motives to people you don’t even know, assuming they’re ALL bad. You would’ve been at the front of the line to hang this man.
Jaime Alonzo , people who happen to support the president of the United States are in no way like this mob! Let me guess you voted for Hillary?🙄🤣
I don't know what Jaime Alonzo wrote 3 years ago, but the comments that "don't see" MAGA in this mob have not aged well. Also, nationalism is NOT patriotism.
There are rising numbers of those - even in the US Congress - who have lynch mob mentalities. That, in itself, is a frightening preamble to what's happening in our land; here's praying we're still home of the brave that can fight this awful wave.
Thank you for telling this story that definitely deserves to be remembered.
all the world governments are like that.
The ideology our country fought against in the first half of the 20th century, is now actively embraced by people who call themselves Americans, including our ex-"President," DJT.
Horrible, but indeed, it should be remembered.
@@Miata822 Uh, What?
@@kendavis8046 Really?
@@Miata822 Why is there always one of you in every crowd? Please check your politics at the door
@@CoppaShotta [EDIT- had a long rant here. Changed my mind about posting. This isn't Reddit, it's HistoryGuy's actual business.]
@@berrytharp1334 Sorry, but there really is no "door" any more. This video today is about real life here today. We are living in times that will be in the history books. Let's not repeat the mistakes of the past.
Probably one of the sadder things I've seen today.
One night during WWI my father, aunts, uncles and grandparents woke to a fusillade ripping through the house. My family was Dutch and spoke something German sounding. Worse, they were close friends with a German family in town. My father, who thought of police as lazy and uneducated drains on the taxpayer, praised the town constable for rushing into the home as it was being perforated and helped the family to safety.
The mentality of the usa really scares me . I still cannot understand how a country can be proud of being founded by slave owners. And now you voted for president who doesnt pay his own workers . Yet so many are such good people as in the law enforcement described here.
@@jenjen.rutherford8559 OH, Please. Every country on the planet has committed extra judicial punishments and executions, started wars to conquer their neighbors, and done horrible things to it's minority populations. We're just more open about our stupidity than many countries, who pretend it never happened. The Japanese still try to hide their atrocities in WWII. I witnessed one example of their xenophobic mindset back in 1986. I watched Japanese police harassing the Korean wives of fellow servicemen in the Narita Airport in Tokyo while we were waiting for our airplane. They accused them of shoplifting when they came back into our terminal with bags of duty free stuff they had bought with cash. They claimed they didn't have credit cards, so they were shop lifters. Only the threat of making it an international incident stopped by police. This is the same country that murdered several thousand Koreans (both under orders and by vigilantes) after the Great Tokyo Earthquake in 1923 blaming them for the fires started by the earthquake (including the firestorm). The mindset of a mob exists everywhere on the planet. Japan is just one example of many countries around the world. No one's an angel, least of all the USA.
@@jenjen.rutherford8559please show me a place on the map where there was no slavery. I will point out dozens of places on that same map where slavery exists today.
@@jenjen.rutherford8559 GTFOH. America was the first place to outlaw slavery. We have since worked to eradicate it around the world!
What has your worthless country done for anyone, other then suck off the TEET of American's paying for your NATO protections.
It's interesting that during WWII, which began for America only 23 years after the "Great War," leaders of our Army and Navy bore such German names as Eisenhower and Nimitz, while GIs carried Hershey chocolate bars as part of their rations.
My own father, beginning in WWI started telling people his last name (Gott) was Dutch. I asked him why and he said it wasn't too popular to have German ancestors. He was the sixth of seven generations born in America, his earliest American ancestor, Jonathan Gott, was born in the Colony of Maryland in 1720. Imagine having to fear your neighbors because of your name.
Or your color?
well, Since WWI my father's family were telling their neighbor their paternal grandparents were Danish (the Horstmanns) and Dutch (the Sortors) . Both were German ancestry, though Sortor is a bastardization of Sarotorius. (Don't give Latin to dyslexic Germans to play with if you're a mideval monk). Nowadays, with my first name, I just get people yelling at me to go back to Mexico. The fun never stops.
At least he wasn't Japanese-American...
@Nikolas Tyr that's just not true, Chinese, Korean and Japanese workers flocked to the west coast from 1830's onwards as it was cheaper to import labor from across the ocean than to bring them from the east coast. Many of the Japanese Americans inturned after pearl harbour were 3rd or 4th generation.
@Nikolas Tyr I suppose you think Muslims like my daughters and their husbands are also "newcomers" who had no hand in building this nation?
Please, tell me you think so.
June 2020- media and people need to watch this so we do not repeat our mistakes and so they can have an example of how media should act.
How true.
Apparently the media and a certain lawyer in St. Louis still don't get it. Read:. the McCloskeys.
Shawn Harold, They KNOW ! Lack of knowledge is not the problem for them, lack of journalistic integrity and commitment to scruples is.
Never resort resort to name calling. NO exceptions! If you're absolutely unable to control your tongue (or keyboard) you are allowed to point out that your opponent is name-calling, but you may not do so yourself.
I think you should be clear about what you mean by the media. What poses as reporting on Facebook, Twitter, and other social media outlets should not be confused with professional journalism. The state of the journalism trade today is quite a bit better than that of 100 years ago. Newspapers like the NYT, WP, WSJ, Miami Herald, LA Times, Boston Globe, Financial Times, and many others produce high integrity reporting that meet professional journalistic standards. They get an occasional piece wrong, but correct themselves by checking each other and staying with important stories. There is even a section dedicated to corrections. Unfortunately, many people don't read newspapers any longer. And those that want to propagate their own version of events attempt to blakently tarnishes all "mainstream media", and promote sources of far more questionable veracity.
My son is very interested in WWI since he saw a photo of his great great grandfather who served 1917-18. His parents came to America from Germany. He was born here in Texas. I have his dog tags (they're round!), payment booklet and other things from his time in Europe. It seems that WWII gets most of the attention but I really like to study The Great War. 👍❤️🤗 Great video! BUNGA! BUNGA!
If you or your son are not familiar with The Great War channel head over there right now before the war is over! It's an extraordinary channel that covers WWI in "real time", exactly 100 years ago, week by week from the beginning, until it ends this week with the Armistice. It's well researched and well presented by Indiana Neidell (really his name). They've just started a WWII channel too. Right now they are at 936,169 subscribers. The fans of the channel would like them to reach 1,000,000 before the last new episode this week. So if you, your son and 63,829 of your closest friends would head over there.....
History Guy and The Great War are my 2 favorite channels
@@bstromb OMG! THANK YOU! I definitely will. 👍❤️🤗
@@bstromb do you also follow the ww2 week by week
it also Indy there speaker on that
and there's a persob who looking at the great war from ottomans wieud
Freedom of the press is not synonymous with integrity of the press.
While I agree with your observation, the subtext of this horrible & repulsive act is that 'the free press' wasn't free at all; they were being directed & manipulated to publish biased articles & opinions, based on prejudices that were unfair & directed toward segments of the population that were innocent of anything other than a different opinion...
Agreed. The national press syndicates were so yellow in this era. Pulitzer papers were stoking war against Germany and Hurst papers were editorializing hard on Germany's behalf before 1917. Both syndicates fabricated or heavily spun stories to make their case.
@@STho205 Bear in mind that this wasn't the first time. The Spanish-American War was almost entirely stoked by the Press and industrial interests. For WWi they just rolled out what worked before.
Don't we know that!
@@jamestheotherone742 that's when those two became great rivals. However the Civil War before that was stoked by lies and exaggerations in newspapers. Activist newspapers outright lied in print all through the 1850s.
1792-1812 the two new parties were almost invented by yellow journalism and those papers often encouraged their readers to arms or at least outright hatred of the other team. Both of whom had fought together during the Revolution.
Ben Franklin always joked about fabricating news in his papers.
Always be cautious of news editors.
Some events deserve to be remembered and some like this should never be forgotten.
We cannot hope to defeat the Hun if we become the Hun ourselves...WORDS TO LIVE BY.
Most people won't realize, that we are only a breath away, from this happening, this very day
Lol. Okay gramps.
People may be intelligent but mobs are not. In a mob even the best of people can commit the worst of acts.
So true
Mobs are like the internet. If you give people anonymity they feel brave and reckless. I've found people will often attach themselves to a "cause" just as an excuse to break stuff or otherwise work out their violent tendencies without any repercussions.
@@oldesertguy9616 so true, just look at the mob mentality after something as meaningless winning a ball game....
I think there is a reason mobs scare me, they are a dangerous animal waiting to be unleashed. I have on one or two occasions slipped away from mobs, they were harmless mobs but still had potential.
Big Blue, You posted: " In a mob even the best of people can commit the worst of acts." Keep in mind that the "best of people" avoid being in a mob...
My great-grandfather fought in World War 1. In his home town in North Carolina they wouldn't even let black soldiers like him march in the Armistice Day parades.
I believe this held true for even people like Henry Johnson as well......he could show off his metal of honor and sell war bonds for the army just not march with the white troops during times of peace. It is a horrible piece of this country's history, yet something we should never forget.
@@trentbresler3179 it's a shame too because he died an alcoholic and in great pain as well as penniless. For many years they didn't even know where he was buried at. But somehow he was buried in Arlington National Cemetery. Theodore Roosevelt called him one of the five bravest Americans in history.
It is of great shame that the U.S. often times use the black troops to fight. That old belief that black troops would be to hard to handle or would run. Some U.S. black troops were given to the French who not only used the black troops to fight but praised them for their bravery. When the U.S. went in to WWII the same thing happened again. One off the most highly decorated units of that conflict was known as the red tails. Throughout every conflict in U.S. history the blacks fought and served with distinction.and bravery.
Your Great-Grandfather was an American hero.
@@chillywilly5258 Thank you.
I really appreciate the work you're doing, this channel has become one of my favorites. How about doing a video on the USS Pueblo (named for my hometown that I love and miss), the Doolittle Raid, Ludlow massacre, or Geronimo's skull? I had a fantastic history teacher in Pueblo named Mr. Boniquista in the early 90s. A classy, intelligent man who I learned so much from but I regret not learning more. Like many of us, I was young and dumb but his patience and relatable historical stories really spoke to me and gave me a respect for our past. Thank you.
Mr. Robert Prager, a brave & proud American. RIP ❤️
This one is definitely history that deserves to be remembered and maybe even reposted.
Poor Mr. Prager🌾 🕊️
Thank you for the reminder that we must not focus on vilifying any other group, as that destroys our own humanity
Read or watch a presentation by Chris Hedges on his book "War is a force that gives us meaning", this type of behavior is all too human in nature. Human's are the only species known to behave thus.
Not just that.
By vilifying the enemy, we become the worst version of them. Which means, in a war of worldviews, that they win.
Never heard of this sad incident. You really brought the history alive and gave it power for the now. As a lover of history and of our great Nation, I always jump right on it, when I see the notification of you posting a new video. Thanks for sharing your great videos with us. Please keep them coming and God bless you, my friend!
Greetings!
My wife and I really like the channel.
I have a suggestion for a video. It was something that I grew up hearing about in Richmond, Virginia, in the 1970s, but I still don't know much about it: The Kepone poisoning of the James RIver by a chemical plant in the city of Hopewell.
Kindest regards...
My friends brother during WWII, enlisted. Every member of the extended family in every career was fired in Milan MI. So they all relocated to Ann Arbor.
Can you do an episode on President Wilson's killing of the Black veterans?
How about the Army Spanish flu train? Lost a grand uncle who rode it. What did they do with the dead? Who processed them? Where is the train cars?
We persecute them when they don't deserve it and don't when they do. It's a banana republic by now anyway.
In 1917, there were more German language newspapers in Pennsylvania than English papers. By the end of 1918, most had been burned out, or destroyed by "patriots."
Even in the 1950's, my grandparents would not teach German to my mother.
Nationalists, not patriots.
@@christianfreedom-seeker934 Thugs, not nationalists. There is nothing wrong with loving your country. There is everything wrong with vandalism and violence against innocent bystanders. That isn't patriotism or nationalism, it is crime.
During those years, even the names of streets and towns were changed to erase any association with German culture and heritage.
A little town in South Central PA now called Quentin , was originally called Bismarck.
Main street in Manheim PA , was originally called Prussian street.
@@ifitsfreeitsforme1852 Berlin, Ontario, was renamed for the British general Kitchener!
I remember when I was high school taking German as a second language, my grandma lamented that her parents didn't teach her and my great aunt how to speak German when they were children, but during that time my great grandparents hid the fact that they were German immigrants from their neighbors during WWI and WWII because of the anti German sentiment at the time.
Thank you so very much for.....remembering😔😔
My German grandmother told me prior to WWI, the family only spoke German in Long Island City, NY. The day the war was declared the family agreed. ..from this day forward we speak only English.
When I was young I lived with my German grandmother and she taught me German. But that was in the 1950's and I guess it was safe to speak German again.
Even the British Royal family did a bit of German erasing by changing the Family name to Winsor in 1917.
My family and many of the German neighbors had stopped speaking German, probably around that time. In that area around Dieterich, Il. there wasn't even a trace of German accent left in most by 1960. About 20 miles west at Altamont, they apparently clung to German longer because the people there had a very "Dutchy" accent.
I caught the German measles once but they surrendered!😁 Swing and a miss? Look I can kid about this cause I married a girl with last name of Krieg and by God it has been with die Hexe at times!
My father told of hearing German still spoken among the Pennsylvania Dutch around 1940-42. Of course, by that time those folks had been in America for something like two centuries, and it was pretty obvious even from the outside that Nazism had considerably less than zero appeal for them. Of course, that was a different war, a diffferent group of German speaking immigrants, and a different part of the U.S. (with a lot fewer recent immigrants than Long Island).
@@brownpcsuncedu I been to Kutztown PA and I talked to a few of them. Their German is not true German..It is a combination of German and Dutch.
Very Impressive. Telling the story as it happened without bias. Thank You.
In Collinsville, kids all learn about this dark chapter of the town's history in High School.
The only way not to repeat this tragedy. Thanks for sharing.
Is some unfortunate itinerant worker lynched in commemoration? Just joking, sort of
Good. Greetings from Germany.
@@juanzulu1318 Yeah, I'm 3/4 German Ancestry myself, so it really hit home for me.
It is time you made a video about Woodrow Wilson and him signing a bill to create the Federal Reserve. Many of us would like to know how the Federal Reserve came about.
It's unfortunate that history largely ignores the evil that was Woodrow Wilson.
Planet Nine, hey be careful about asking those kinda questions. Every crooked congressman knows to keep their nose out of the Feds business. Ever here of the Monster from Jekyll Island, SC?
I do now. Thanks for the heads up.
I would love to know that too
Yup, and why not talk about Wilson being a member of the KKK and the model for "Birth of a Nation," which was first screened for him at the White House?
I saw this upload and said "OOOOOOHHHHHH" loudly and got looks from my family.
That's cool! I'm a history junkie myself
Me too! 👍🤗
thank you for all these unknown, forgotten facets of history! a big fan of yours~ from nort east India. (:
Quite possibly the best 20-30 minutes of my work day is spent when I have lunch and watch your videos. You do a wonderful job at bringing to light these items that deserve to be remembered. Well done!
Four hostile newspapers are more to be feared than a thousand bayonets. Napoleon Bonaparte
This is "heavy duty" history that needs to be remembered. Another great expos'e THG!
Good old American justice. And they all got off scot-free....disgusting.
Tis the way of the US
Go fuck yourself.
Thank you for this video. I am a American from a long line of German descendants. Never, when asked, were stories from the war years told. I often took that as, it's best to forget. I believe, if we forget, we very well may repeat the same mistakes.
My husbands family changed their names to not sound so German.
This happened near where I grew up, my grandmother told me about it. A lot of history is erased.
Sounds like CNN, MSNBC, Huffington Post, Washington Post, NPR, ABC, CBS, NBC.
Sounds like a mixture of Breitbart, Infowars , Fox news and Daily Stormer
Your forgot these: AP News, BBC, CNBC, PBS, NYT, AAS, and just about every other media that still uses fact-based investigative journalists who point out baseless propaganda.
Beware! History does have a way of repeating herself.
Thanks for all the work you put into these productions - I know, it's a labour of love - you are quickly becoming one of my favourite presenters of history/knowledge here on TH-cam (that includes BBC documentaries). I appreciate your presentation style and manner in which you address the many subjects you delve into. Thanks again.
Thanks for another Great video ..
I watched the 1990 movie Dick Tracy the other day (underrated good movie) anyways, one of the villains quoted the following line "law without order is just as dangerous to the people as order without law - Thomas Jefferson." Just curious if TJ actually said that. I've looked around and can't seem to find any thing on that subject. Great quote either way.
Excellent recounting of human behavior in response to propaganda and war. This was a brave man, who faced his demise stoically with his matter of fact summing up to loved ones in Germany. If it was an isolated incident, it was also a late one and we should not be complacent as to the behavior of humans who compute according to the version of reality presented to them. It is also an indication of the importance of historical reading to be able to gauge the quality of common media output, which is often propaganda.
War may change a nation, but war never changes.
Not to point to current events, but I really wish current national leaders were required to study history before being elected. We seem to make the same mistakes over and over again.
So like a poll test, sure, that's got a good history. Bit ironic don't you think.
@@snek9353 Ummm...not the voter, the candidate. They want to be a leader in the job that they are applying for.
@@snek9353 he's talking about the person running for office, not the person voting for them. I'd be totally fine with an American presidential candidate having to pass a history test to be eligible.
@@zackakai5173 Given by who, and who decides what questions and what the right answers are?
Requiring voters to demonstrate civic/historical knowledge in order to qualify to vote makes even more sense. We have far too many idiots participating in our political processes.
My ancestors changed their name from Mai to May in Kansas about this time as they came from Hannover. They lived in Western Kansas. Nearby was a black community which could be a new story for you. It was west of Oberlin, KA? and a book has been written. Maybe try to send you more details'
I live in Collinsville, Illinois. I attended the highschool's graduation and the author of "Patriotic Murder" gave a speech about Robert Prager. Almost no one knew what he was talking about. The fact that our town murdered a man in cold blood was hidden throughout the generations. It's sickening. He was hung down the road from the fucking bakery.
catching up ... there's always someone who fears the ignorance of their own stupidity and think they can justify their existence by killing someone else
Mob violence is in all cases grossly unjust and un-American and horrific. It's to be avoided at all cost. It's almost always aided by the press. A lesson we're learning again here in 2020.
Patriotism is a wonderful thing....and I love my country dearly. However, when it slides into hatred and disrespect for other nations or cultures, it becomes vile.
Woodrow Wilson was probably the most racist president in American history. After decades of integration in the federal government he came to Washington via Princeton University with his southern roots academic arrogance and resegregated both the federal government and its army. Thanks to Mr. Wilson the first film ever played in the White House was a movie glorifying the Ku Klux Klan.
This was your most powerful story history guy - how can you not help but feel the terror of this young man felt? Who must’ve felt like he was born under an unlucky cloud; without one of his eyes; a glass replacement, doing the best he could fit in from town to town and always being chased away; ultimately his shame fueling the loathing of his fellow human beings-erstwhile brother Americans- until their lust to bully and torment another knows no bounds but to extinguish a life.
What did his parents think when they saw that letter from America? - the one they waited so long for - news of their son?! “ mother, father, on this day in April I must die”. He whom you gave birth to whom you loved because he was your son Dash could find no small corner to hide no little place not even a sewer pipe- and as you read this he lives no more” you cannot even imagine the anguish ‘s parents must have felt.
And then to wrap this up in the flag?!
And it all could have been avoided if he didn't steal that suit...
@@EightiesTV Why do you think stealing the suit had anything to do with it?
Yes, Wilson loved the film "Birth of A Nation." (The pro-KKK film you refer to.) That film pioneered several cinematic techniques (so in film class...); but is utterly horrible in its pro-KKK, pro White Terror..., pro-worst-of-the-post-Confederacy
Beautifully expressed!
Donald Trump is giving Wilson a run for his money in terms of competing for the “most racist” title.
Another example of why we have the 2nd Amendment. Merely having a gun and the Police asking "who chooses to be the first of many?" would have ended it.
A lovely example of why America is known as the nation of morons. Well done, sir. You deserve a Nobel prize for irrelevance and inanity.
Sadly, it doesn't seem like we, in the U.S., are far way from this type of behavior again, whether it be immigrants, or even your neighbors simply because their politics aren't the same as yours.....
Immigrants or illegal immigrants?
@@randyreno7118 if a person dying is the end result, does it really matter if that person was legal or illegal? If they were illegal does that somehow make their death more excusable or justified?
Nobody wants anyone dead. Just not here illegally living off of our tax dollars. Plus it's bringing in too many trafficked children. Most people want documented and legal immigration
@@randyreno7118 I think you missed the point of my original post
@@Nitro1970 I get it. Its happening now with Antifa. Its like 1930s Germany and 1917 Russia all over again
Truly sad, and absolutely needs to be remembered. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for sharing this man's story! My Grandpa, who's family emigrated to America from Germany during this era, always seemed ashamed of his heritage. This heartbreaking story helps me understand why.
Prejudice is the only thing worth harboring a prejudice against.
"Bad things happen when good people do nothing." - M. L. King
"Nationalism is the measles of mankind." - A. Einstein
@Skitarii Soldier
Perhaps you should argue your point with the man that said it.
Fat thumbs up from Germany
@Skitarii Soldier Nothing wrong with nationalism? No, I guess not. Let's all be nationalistic and hang and kill people for doing things we think are unpatriotic. Won't that be fun? As for being a commie, the ones who hanged Robert Prager were the commies. Forget free speech. If he says the wrong thing let's kill him.
I'm a humanist, myself. Nationalism has done more harm than good. Look what it did to Germany in WWII.
They say religion is the opiate of the masses. True, but nationalism is the crack cocaine of the masses. I believe in and practice non-psychological sapientism. Which means I believe all sapient beings have intrinsic value no matter their origin and/or species. The country I live in has done some good things. They have also done some completely rotten things that I find outrageous and utterly contemptible. So I don't have a lot of use for nationalism. Nationalism has caused more travesties than we can count.
As a German... Or maybe likely someone from that rich-middle-of-europe-land?
I actually don't understand nationalism that much. Is patriotism even the same? I think it's feelings about safety and freedom, in most cases...
All I see is different good/bad things that some have and some not. I also see history written in good/bad ways, and near and far future changing or keeping stuff... I differ there between partly connected, partly sovereign things.
I think that nationalism might be an easy concept to explain the own situation. The nation as label for the world one belongs to.
But "we didn't land on Plymouth rock. The rock landed on us.", I heard... I mean: Isn't every American from foreign origins? So what's a real American, so they made laws about it? What makes 'America' as a nation? Describing "that feeling"doesn't count 😉
I always think that I can only be _happy_ about single facets of my nation. When I feel _pride_ , then _only about my own achievements_ . Soldiers may be proud of their country, because they live and risk their lives for it's future. But can soldiers be proud of their weapons, or rather... Happy to have them? Proud to being able to kill, or rather proud of the fact that this soldiers get the responsibility to hurt or kill if necessary?
If this all looks complicated, I guess the answer to all that shouldn't be some easy "Because we"?
"And that, kids, is how I lost your grandparents nationalism" or so
Wow.....yet another part of American history that I didn't know existed, thanks for what you do. Always interesting to me how the media even back then could be used as such an effective tool to influence the masses opinion. Just think what could be done now
This is just one of the reasons why I consider President Wilson to be America's Stalin. His "Four-Minute Men" made sure the party line was made known and that dissent would not be tolerated. ("Four-Minute Men" were people who would give speeches on the rightness of the war, etc, lasting around 4 minutes. You could not go to a movie theater, live theater, or even large private parties in some cases, without a "Four-Minute Man" giving a speech before the show started. His actions also made it well-nigh impossible to fight the Great Influenza, since he ordered any and all news about it to be censored.
Wilson insisted that the WWI draft "is in no sense a conscription of the unwilling. It is, rather, selection from a Nation which has volunteered in mass.” (Sounds like something Stalin might say...)
Greetings from Germany (by a guy whose eight great-grandparents each came from another (European) nation).
What a horrifying story. That is what I hate about "patriotism" - it is so easy to slide into bigotry, vilifying the "other", or worse and justifying it as patriotism. Really great content. Thank you for your videos.
There’s nothing at all wrong with loving the greatest country in the history of man kind; what’s wrong is the self loathing that liberals find so self righteous put upon people who don’t deserve any part of it.
With our current President we could slide into this mindset quite easily
John Ritchie hate yourself; not your country.
@@walterkersting1362 What about my reply lead you to believe I hate my country? I love my country.
Why would I hate myself, what have I done that you know of leads you to think I should hate myself.
What you are apparently incapable of figuring out is that I am saying Trump very clear bigotry and intolerance can lead the country down an ugly path very fast.
It is your Patriotic duty to fight hatred, discrimination and bigotry if you love your country!
If you cant see that, then that is a problem. Albert Einstein is quoted as having said "The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing."
Think about that before you spout ill considered bile.
John Ritchie liberals hate God, country and themselves; you should concentrate your hatred where it logically and rightfully belongs; on yourself, in which I’d support you...
I am glad you brought out this story I heard about it from a WWI Vet. He told me he didn't fight for this sort of thing. Btw Bill Tillman was a family friend of his.
My maternal German grandfather’s general store in Avon South Dakota was burned to the ground by anti German vigilantes in 1917 . The family stopped speaking German soon after my mother was born in 1916
have we really changed? Is this what made us great back then?
What makes us great now and back then is the willingness to forge ahead with leadership in many areas of progress for the good of humanity. Though there are disagreements most stand United in the belief that freedom to live one's life not answering to a central government or Monarch.
Please Mr history man, more WW1 content its my favorite era of history and was my grandmothers as well, always bringing in the feels, thank you for the content anyways
th-cam.com/play/PLSnt4mJGJfGjsXS5Pu1rEN0-mNjbHoggo.html
If you really like WWI stuff may I reccomend the TH-cam channel The Great War?
@@sfs2040. I agree with your recommendation. That is one of the finest programs on this media outlet, and definitely the best video presented account of WWI I have ever seen.
I'm Scottish/British and have many stories of similar actions during both world wars...war does have terrible effects on the psyche
Pardon, madam. But the UK and EU are perfectly happy to watch thousands drown in the Med yearly to reach your shores. While you may question the tone, immigration control is a common problem.
@2manynegativewaves The UK has bases from Gibraltar to Cyprus. They found time to Bomb Libya. Yet spare no ships to clean up the mess after. So, yes my Geography is on target.
That was when my grandpa family ceased speaking German even though his family arrived in 1760 and fought in the American Revolution against the British.
Remarkable that they'd kept their language for a century and a half! (Assimilationist pressures are greater today...)
If they taught actual history in school, we would have less problems in the world.
I lived in Collinsville from 1968 - 1973 when I graduated from High School. I had no idea this bit of history existed. I can certainly see why it would never be brought up. Shameful!
Never give up your arms. There's no better proof that the second is needed to protect the first.
Dagny, What does that have to do with anything?
Ahh.. thanks for this!
Knowing or history is knowing both the good and the bad. If one forgets the bad it is much easier to do it again.
Please do an episode on the relationship between James Buchanan and Rufus King. I understand it may be controversial and difficult to draw any conclusions, but it is a little discussed subject.
Those who murdered a innocent man should have been hung just like they did to their victim. They didn't even give him the hangman's knot.
My grandpa’s grandpa was from Germany. My Grandpa was wounded in battle during WW1.
Best lesson here is if this ever happens again pack your stuff and sit it out in the mountains. Mobs love blood.
It's happening right now, and if you truly love your country, you should go stand between the mobs and their targets.
“We cannot hope to defeat the Hun if we become the Hun ourselves.” Well concluded.
those 11 men were acquitted by other men I'm curious on Judgement Day what the Supreme judge will say about their actions
Given that He stood by and let it happen, my guess is that He won't give a damn.
Heartbreaking 😔 were nasty people straight up.
This kind of stuff is why my Mother's family burned family Bibles and books written in German from the 1700's at the onset of WW2.
This story is very sad. I too am German. I am now an AMERICAN!
traitor
My grandmother was the post mistress in Emigrant, Montana. She lost her job, in 1918, for saying she felt sorry for Kaiser because everyone hated him.
Aweful. Poor guy rest in peace. Wilson was the first idiot president. We should have stayed out of the war.
I agree with you sir; and get this..a few years ago the Brits said that the German's were correct about why they sunk the Lusitania's. The Brits did hide munitions aboard the ship which made it a legitimate target!
I guess you are a Democrat. I am not getting into a debate with you, but Trump is the best president since Reagan, unless of course, you like Uber-rich globalists, socialists and other products of a defective society. The American public sent Trump to Washington to clean up the domestic and foreign policy mess created by that contemporary idiot Obama and his collaborative predecessors Bush I, Clinton the lying perjurder and plundered and Bush II .
Intetesting you have issues with Jackson who was a Democrat.
@2manynegativewaves Lowest unemployment rate in years, lowest unemployment rate among minorities in history, situation with North Korea on the way to being solved, Red Chinese being brought to heel on trade agreements, NATO Allies paying their share, continuing progress dealing with b illegal invaders, Maduro's socialist hell hole being strangled, Communist Cuba in the crosshairs, ISIS on the ropes, economy booming, Iranians watching their Mulla-ocracy crumble, Constitutionslist judges appointed to the Federsl Courts, etc. etc.
I could go on and on, but why bother. Waste of time. Children can't deal with responsible adults in charge. Too bad. Get used to it. Seven more years. Them Donald Junior.
Richard Chang, the only people who will wind up in jail are the crooks that tried to frame the best President since Ronald Reagan. Have a great day. And it was 5 1/2 more years, not seven. But with Donald Junior running in 2024, it will be far longer than that.
@@thomaszaccone3960 Why do you support his son? That seems weird. He has hardly any experience and there is no reason to think he will be a good politician. You should never vote just because of someone's father, but on someone's own merit.
This is how some right wingers would act if they had their way, even today.
WILSON.....DEMOCRAT ACADEMIC.... CVA led to Edith his 2nd wife running our USA..,
Sounds like The "Patriot" Act. Stupidity never goes out of season.
Perhapos the Biden Administration and the new Congress can do what the Obama Administration couldn't: repeal the abominable law with the Orwellian name of "Patriot" Act, and abolish the "Department of Homeland Security".
@@johnburt7935 - Perhaps. But I'm sceptical. I'm afraid Biden will be a "safe" president, not rocking any boats, not doing anything daring. But even that will be 1000% better than dimwit Donnie.
@@Hal_T A cardboard window display would be preferable over donald.
@@johnburt7935 - That might be what we'll end up with.
What a huge disappointment that this happened. Law enforcement did not do it's job and that's a shame and blight on them. So glad to hear you remember this. His memory was in a little way honored. And we as Americans of freedom and LIBERTY should learn from past mistakes and never let them be repeated.
Yeah, I guess the police have always sucked at their jobs.
I was in the US Navy for 14 years. I love this country, but my god this story makes me feel ashamed for the early version of this country.
That isn't an early version of your country, that is human sin. To believe this mob represents your country is to fall into the same trap they did: that all the people in a nation can be represented by this one example. In fact, this one example belies that thinking, as several men did risk their lives to try to save him from these thugs. Why would their self sacrificing courage in trying to save him not be the example you take away from this, rather than the criminals who perpetrated this murder?
@@userunavailable3095 so "several men" actually means *TWO MEN*? Wow. Thanks for that lesson.
Missed the name of the ship which was torpedoed in international waters in 1917 sounded like Housatonic,??
I love our flag but, those muderous SOBs are just shameful. RIP Robert.