Boom Town is a brilliant and underrated episode, it's "substance" was the moral questions surrounding the death sentence, the episode also had excellent dialogue, writing, soundtrack and continuity
The moral question consisted of one character saying how bad the method of execution was, and the other saying I Don't Care. I've never seen a more vacuous discussion of the moral question before or since.
The Christmas tree attack in The Christmas Invasion is one of the funniest moments in the show. The "I'm gonna get killed by a Christmas tree!" line always cracks me up. And tooth and claw is also really good imo.
Overrated is very subjective most of the time! Just like underrated. For example I just saw the preview for "The God Complex" (because I rewatched The Girl Who Waited, obviously!) today and thought to myself "Hm, kind of an underrated episode imo!"
I do have to disagree with you on your comments about Harriet Jones in the Christmas Invasion. The villain had been defeated, they were retreating and she ordered they were slaughtered by being shot in the back. In that moment she was just another villain that kills because they can.
Also, wasn't the Golden Age that she was supposed to usher in already over. I always took that moment as Harriet had gotten a little to bold and aggressive, so the Doctor had to knock her down a peg.
I agree. She committed genocide. I don't see how that can be justified. The only thing negative fact of Harriet Jones loosing her position was the next Prime Minister was Harrold Saxon...
Genocide doesn't mean an entire species. It just means a large number of a certain race or species. There were Thousands of Sykorax on that ship. That would count as a Genocide.
These episodes on the list are guilty pleasure episodes,not terribly bad and not really really amazing.Epiodes like these you can go back to and find enjoyment in,like tooth and claw it's an episode you can watch without needing to continuing the narrative of that series.
"that was murder!" Have to side with the doctor on this one, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. two officials being killed on that ship does not justify murdering a ship full of sycorax at all. "they were leaving" you dont send out a probe with A positive blood in it only for a bunch of alians to find and abuse to control one third of earths population, have the doctor help you defend the planet and then murder an entire ship full of them after they agreed to leave! Harriot Jones, you crossed a line and you needed to own up to that and learn from its consequenses.
I find the End of Time is hilarious as a drinking game, as everything is so repetitive. Also at the end of part 1 when the master race is all over earth, there is a part where a master throws his hat into the air, and a master behind him picks it up, puts it on, AND STARTS BREAK DANCING!
The Christmas invasion was my first david tennant episode. and your opinion is your opinion. i liked the episode and hte "Im gonna get killed by a christmas tree" had me laughing hard.
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Personally I liked the monsters in Gridlock, but they could've been taken out. Also, when I saw the mood patches, I thought that's what the episode would be about. But I liked the concept, and the preparation for Utopia later on
I think the christmas specials are a uniquely british taste: they clearly take a lot from the concept of ‘the pantomime’ which has a close association with christmas over here, so the over-acting and cheesiness of the RTD specials are 100% in keeping with that, a reading i assume is lost without the concept of pantomimes across the pond(?)
Boom town, was written as a very cheap episode, to balance out the more effect heavy episodes in the season. The farting Slytheen was part of the reason for Chris Eccleston leaving. It is meant to focus on their scene in the restaurant and the morality of the Death Penalty, etc. But it is quite superficial.
There are many great dramas that have debated the morality of the death penalty. Someone should have said "Russell, it's been done, and without fart gags "
wrong, in tooty and claw David Tennant was asked not to use his actual accent, so in tooth and claw its a scottish actor acting british pretending to be scottish
One of my favorite things about watching your videos is that I agree with you about 70% of the time and the other 30% of the time you are so respectful yeah so respectful about the way you talk about the things you dislike that it really makes me realize that you are a fan and I appreciate your videos even more
"I'm the Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I'm from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation of Kasterborous; I am 903 years old, and I'm the man who's going to save your lives and all six billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?" ... "In that case, Alons-y!"
Zach Champion Same here. As overly-shouty and aggressive Donna was, it was a good change a pace from the teary "I love you" Rose. That's why Donna worked so well with Ten. For someone so vain and sanctimonious, having a companion to bring him down and throw jabs at him was a good balance.
The Long Game is an annoying one for me because quite often I find myself thinkiing how great it would be to see Simon Pegg in Doctor Who, only to then remember, "Oh wait, he's already done it." Then again, other actors have done multiple roles in the show so he could make another appearance.
Boom Town is a psychological piece. She was going to destroy Earth to get back to civilization, that was the plot, it was meant to be a look at what separates the Doctor from the villains, if he doesn't care about the consequences of his actions. The point of the body swapping in New Earth is to get a stationary villain into the action. Obviously. And do you really need to shout everything you say?
I think the tonal switching in New Earth works best when Cassandra is forced to take the body of one of the diseased and she realizes how horrible it is for them. The fact that this character who had mostly been played for laughs and was a terrible person could actually be effected by emotion really made me feel more for the diseased people and Cassandra herself when she died.
Dona should come back - if they can bs us with Clara and Bille they can also fix her story, giving her good ending. She is the only companion from new Doctor Who, who deserves it. It would be an amazing story for the next anniversary finale - we don't need explosions and saving whole world again. We need Doctor to look back and fix everything he has done badly. From Susan to Donna (visiting Ponds would be a nice touch also; stealing some regenerations for River, so she could be another recurring regenerating character like Master; returning for Ragdoll and Jenny - in this show everything goes, and after next few decades coming back to old characters would be an awesome idea).
Love and Monsters is my worst episode of new who as a whole. To me, its boring, fairly cringey with some scenes, and it felt like an insult to the fans instead of a commentary on them.
Ben Mercer second worst, I’m still putting Sleep no more as the worst episode of new who “you will be scared of the dust in your eye”... that’s just too stupid to function.
I thought Partners In Crime was excruciatingly tedious and silly, so that one would defo be on my top ten. Overall I think Davies gets a little too much credit, he has his good episodes (midnight, waters of Mars, etc.) and he makes good story arcs, but as an individual episode writer, I'd say Moffat actually takes the cake.
WAAAAY TOO oh loooook they almost meet buuuuut they don't. Also Donna reallllly wants to be with the Dr. even though she didn't when we first met her, why because plot demands it.
For some reason, Boomtown is an episode you don't remember very much, but once you re-watch it you see it's actually good, we've got captain jack, we've got a difference villain dynamic, we've got some great mickey moments. And it really fits well in the series.. and yet not very remarkable
I like love and monsters because it's interesting to see a group of normal people in the doctor who Universe who don't constantly fight monsters I want to see a show about LINDA
I personally really like tooth and claw but I can see why it would be bad. The monks are goofy and a lot of the actions/characters are dumb. Although the werewolf looks dumb, it's the best I've seen. The others I've seen are the hairless crap in Harry Potter, the men with hair glued on them from the wolfman or the just wolves in stuff like Twilight.
Another Communist Fruitcake I actually enjoyed both the Doctor Who werewolfs and the Harry Potter werewolfs I was scared by both as a kid sort of stupid but tons of the monsters in Doctor Who scared me at the time.
OH BOY! As a werewolf movie fan, I can give you good werewolf recommendations. Want a werewolf design to blow your mind: Bad Moon. The movie is great but the werewolves are amazing even to today. It was made, 1996ish? And proof that practical effects age better.
Love and monsters was a great idea but the execution was bad. I love how the group is searching for the doctor, it shows a simple human side to doctor who, it could happen in real life. But the abzorbaloff was the only problem.
It also really hurt me to see Gridlock on this as it's one of my fave and I understand about the cat nurses but I found them quite charming but I'm a cat person
I’ve gotta say that the Christmas invasion is probably my second least favourite RTD episode. It’s boring as hell, the fact that the doctor does nothing until the end, the fact that it’s more interested in showing Rose looking at the doctor all the time instead of you know ACTUALLY trying to stop the Sycorax and the fact that the Sycorax goes to waste. They’re good monsters but they do nothing. They just stand there. Only the leader does something. I do agree with the fact that it gets good with the Doctor fighting the leader but that in like the last fifteen minutes. My god a complete disaster of an episode
Apart from the stupid monster (which you can't blame) and the shitty ending I enjoy Love and Monsters and will still rewatch it along with all the other episodes except for Fear Her. Seriously how was Fear Her not on here
Gabriel Curle I didn't even mind the monster that much. That fucking ending though. And now it's even worse knowing that the episode was written around a kids fucking concept! Imagine that kid watching with his parents and it gets to the end and that's what they leave you with! I know the term gets thrown around a lot but that 30 seconds of Doctor Who was a complete disgrace.
I think I like new earth, I like the plot, I like Cassandra's return, I always like returns- whatever it is, I like the cat nurses, it's overall enjoyable, it somehow works for me
I always have a very soft spot in my heart for Boom Town. When I was little the Slitheen in the Aliens in London two-parter genuinely gave me a week of nightmares between the two episodes and I liked seeing some more resolution from that. And all the characters going out for a meal together in Cardiff and having a laugh felt so genuinely like a group of friends and just gives me this comforting sense about it. I feel like if nothing else, Boom Town sold me on if they decided to do a bottle episode which was nothing more than some of the characters we had come to enjoy at the time just hanging out for an episode, I’d still really thoroughly enjoy it too
Nope. Nope. Nope. Not gridlock. Please no. That's honestly one of my favourite episodes. Edit: Oh Christmas invasion is hands down the best Christmas special. But that isn't saying much. I agree with what you said there dispite loving the episode. Edit: (I'm writing this as I'm watching it) tooth and claw is another favourite of mine, a lot of nostalgia is probably influencing that though. Edit: spot on with boom town Edit: aliens of London should have been higher it's a really good episode. Edit: I'm good with what you said about the long game Edit: series two is my favourite so it's hard for me to criticise any episode from it. Edit: Final edit, I love love and monsters. Fight me.
Personally, I love the Slitheen Episodes. The first pair are maybe a bit goofy, but the farting is, in my opinion, bearable, and serves to make the villains less likeable rather than taking down the quality of the episode itself. The slow unzipping, I assume, is just something that comes with the skin suits. It takes a while to get in or out of them. That's important for the ending. Boom Town, as well, while being a fairly forgettable episode in terms of alien plans, is fairly important on an emotional level, in my opinion. Mickey and Rose talk for a while, and more or less break up in this episode. Of course, he comes running a couple episodes later, but that gets addressed. It connects to episode 3 via the rift, of course back to the previous Slitheen episodes, and forward to the next pair with the Heart of the Tardis, and the Extrapolator. And the dynamic between Margaret/Blon and the Doctor is just so entertaining. While it's probably the least memorable episode of the series, it's good fun. And I kind of like the Long Game, but I won't argue that one with you, because I see your points. Also, I feel like Elton is compelling enough for a short episode, though I'll maybe agree with you that the others aren't. And there was no build up to tell us he liked Ursula before he told us.
Same with me! Maybe it’s because I grew up with them, but despite knowing how ridiculous they are as an alien, they always held a place in my doctor who loving heart 😂
But I know it's not by Russel T Davies which The Shakespeare Code was actually written by Gareth Roberts so in my opinion if my worst one for Russell's episodes has to be (not love and monsters because I actually like that episode since I was 6 when I first saw it and I still love it to this day) tooth and claw because I never thought it would be engaging but the only think I could appreciate from it was the sad ending with the werewolf dying in peace along with sad music in the background and the next time sequence after new earth stopped which is another episode I really like too
This is my top 10 least favourite of his era, not just the ones he’s written: - The Long Game - New Earth - Fear Her - Love and Monsters - The Lazarus Experiment - 42 - Daleks In Manhattan / Evolution of the Daleks - The Next Doctor - Planet of the Dead
It's very, very rare that I have the sort of knee-jerk reactions to lists that most people joke about when they say "People will dislike this". But as soon as you said Gridlock, I was full on "LOLWAT" - one of my favorite episodes, hands down. Opinions vary I guess.
I feel like Christmas specials are supposed to be goofy, though. If it was all serious and normal then it wouldn't really feel like Christmas. It's just generally supposed to be "have fun and don't think to much about it and just enjoy it for what it is." Then again, this is a ranking so your somewhat forced to think too much about it. Nonetheless, good video, keep up the good work.
13:30 The doors closed because the Doctor used his sonic screwdriver on the buttons. Because of that, I’m not sure if even a hand would’ve obstructed their closing process.
I liked how in love and monsters had the vlogging style and the perspective but the story and the villain and the end and stuff like that were horrible and I hated them
The third act of Love and Monsters really hurts to think about, because I loved everything before that. I guess it's like the Series 9 finale trilogy, if that's a fair comparison
6:15 I always hated the Harriet Jones thing, it feels like so far a departure from "Face of Evil" when The Doctor lays out his philosophy after he dealt with the threat, and the residents are arguing about choosing a new leader, and Baker's adorably blase delivery of "Ah, but that's not my problem." And that's generally his opinion, even Troughton was so squeamish about regime change. I think because this dovetails with Ten's habit of opposing people not for being evil or dangerous, but simply for opposing his personal morality, which is arguably his second-worst character trait.
I disagree with everything except New Earth, Christmas Invasion, and, maybe, Voyage. Gridlock and AOL/WW3 are, in particular, some of my absolute faves. But I still like hearing your views.
Thinking about it, your whole thing about the Cat People and the Hath and just sticking Animals on human bodies to make aliens really brings a new perspective to the scene with the Pig 'Alien' in 'Aliens of London'.
I would have put Last of the Timelords in there. It's really stupid. The Master turns the Doctor in Dobbie, and through some magic words spread by Martha, he is returned to normal???
Paul Charles Morris The satellites were used to cancel out the master's perception filter and use it to give power to the doctor. Still doesnt make as much sense however it wasnt magic or prayer.
I saw New Earth and it was actually pretty good. Favorite part was the Doctor being very excited that he cured all those artificial humans of the diseases, I just get a big smile and laugh along with David Tennant. It's such a triumphant moment.
I thought the elevator was a problem, but he actually soniced it closed. His hands were free when it opened though (I think), but sometimes you "lag" when something out of left field happens.
In defense of the cat people, I believe they're supposed to be a race that evolved on Earth during the millions of years between now and the End of the World, like Jabe's species was in that.
True. It'd like how I get frustrated with Star Trek, especially Next Generation, when it feels like the only way to make an alien is various bumps on the head somewhere.
I loved aliens of London and world war 3 as a little kid, If you sat me in front of Netflix with aliens of London, world war 3 or tooth and claw and I was satisfied.
I used to love it. Sometime after abandoning the series when Matt Smith arrived. I didn’t know about regeneration and just knowing David Tennant left and seeing his scary brick shitting performance in Jessica Jones had me revisit the series, and that was the first episode I saw and had tears of nostalgia during the end credits song.
I like gridlock, but overall, I very much agree with a lot of what u said. THANK YOU so much for acknowledging how terrible the doctor was to harriet jones. personally, I saw the dilemma she was in and she was doing the best she could. also, in doing that, he removed Britain's primary defender, and who rose in her place... oh yeah, the MASTER! Ten actually created the larger problem later in quite a few ways. also, the doctor has done worse. u could easily successfully argue that 10 did in runaway bride. I was the opposite of u with that one. I didn't like how 10 killed all the racknoss childen just bc the empress was evil. i'm arachnophobic, but those were still kids who didn't commit horrors at that point. only the empress did. u don't kill millions bc of the actions of one. but I admit that disdain for that moment is probably bc the same people who justify that moment r the same people who hate 11 for tricking the silence into ordering their execution in day on the moon. they hate 11 for teaching the human race how to defend themselves against an alien race that has continued to manipulate/hurt or kill them and who are all adults, but its ok for 10 to kill racknoss kids? sheesh, the double standard! but there are elements of runaway bride that I liked, like a quite a few on here. but overall, I totally agree with u. good video.
I wouldn't have put Love and Mosters so high on the list, except for that god awful ending with the image of Elton shagging a paving slab with a face left in my head. Too often Doctor Who seems afraid to do sad and we have this awful hollywood type stick on a happyish ending.
Boom Town was a last minute addition after the original script about the Doctor genetically engineering Rose to be the perfect companion was rejected and RTD had to quickly write Boom Town, so which would you rather?
No mention of Queen Victoria? I really liked her in "Tooth and Claw". I liked "New Earth", though I understand its problems. Cassandra, Rose, and the Doctor have an excellent byplay, though. Tennant, Piper, and Zoe Wanamaker are incredible actors and really elevate the episode with how entertaining they are to watch, IMO. A lot of these episodes are quite good. I only soured on RTD after Torchwood: Children of Earth. But I 100% agree on "Love & Monsters."
I absolutely agree on Gridlock. I like that episode, mainly because of the premise - generations living and dying in a traffic jam, sustained by the hope for eventually finding an off ramp which doesn't exist. But you're right that it didn't need giant crab monsters or mood drugs, both of which could have been fine episodes on their own but served little purpose in Gridlock.
In regards to the cat people Russell T Davies has clearly no imagination when it comes to doctor who monsters basically the Russell T Davies recipe for a monster is step 1, open a book of animals on a random page, step 2 make a note of the first animal you see (pig, cat, rhinoceros, squid, fish, fly etc) step 3, put the animals head on top of paul kasey and bon appetit the lazy man's guide to monster making
I want a doctor who Christmas special that's very little in the way of monsters and just The Doctor spending time with as many present and mostly former companions as possible.
I have a soft spot for gridlock but it didn’t explore half the stuff. The dodgy moods were never dealt with or explored. They still had maccra in the city. We also didn’t get much of face of bo either. It was all a bit rushed
I like New Earth and Gridlock. We need more of the face of boe, or jack as a young face of boe. I also think the cat people are interesting...also because they remind me if the khajiit (from the tes)
Honestly, I actually like Love and Monsters, probably just nostalgia, but I felt that story was decent. Anyway, there was 10 in your best list, and 10 in your worst list, so there's three left. Which ones were they?
Thank you for pointing out that issue w Christmas Invasion. And I have some times wondered is Hay J( Harriet Jones) possibly finding herself in some of the strange set of circumstances like Hilary Clinton has? Both face crazy shit and both get undeserved backlash for it, might they be linked? Just wondering...
The other issue with the Doctor's actions to Harriet is that the Doctor left space for Harold Saxon to become Prime Minister. They should have mentioned that when he showed up.
Just like every era* of Doctor Who, it always has some stinkers. RTD didn't write the best stuff of his era (other than maybe Midnight?), but he did write some of the dodgy ones- kind of his job to fill in the gaps to make up a season, though. *- Apart from the legendary series 13 and 14, of course.
@@f-zilla7347 Good grief, no! the original 13 and 14. ... Although RTD seasons 3 and 4 are his best in my book, they are still unconsistent, just not as inconsistent as his first two. The only time the show was that good was with Hinchcliffe!
@@MrLtia1234 Ahhh I apologize good chap, I must of misinterpreted what you were saying. I must agree however, Tom Baker’s second and third seasons are absolutely amazing and peak Doctor Who, that’s why he’s the best Doctor!
Haha, I always loved the "Don't stand me against the lift" bit purely because it's cheeky smiley Eccleston at his best. I used to say The Long Game would have been better without the Jagrafess. Now I'd say the Jagrafess is fine (could do with a better design though) but there is definitely a case of incorrect assigned roles going on. It would be perfect with the Editor as the main villain, since a man in a suit brainwashing the Earth works better than a limbless mouth slug doing it. But the Jagrafess can be the Editor's enforcer, killing off anyone who stands up to the Editor. This smart and mysterious Editor serving as the underling to a roaring mollusc just doesn't make sense
I rather liked Voyage of the Damned. New Earth was ok too (to me). Tenant's lesser performance is not a big deal (could even be explained as the new regeneration's personality is still settling in) so I'm fine with it. Therianthropy (part animal/ part human) is pretty common. (its where vampires & werewolves come from even) So, I tend to be a bit more tolerant of it when it's done. Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your list.
10. The Christmas invasion (I actually don't mind this episode but something had to be number 10) 9. Aliens of London / World war three (Could have been a very good story but was executed terribly) 8. Partners in crime 7. The stolen Earth / Journeys end 6. Tooth and Claw 5. Army of Ghosts / Doomsday 4. New Earth 3. The End of Time 2. Utopia / The sound of drums / Last of The TimeLords (Utopia is actually very good but I dislike the latter two parts so much that they really bring the story as a whole down) 1. Love & Monsters
Interesting list, though some on it I do enjoy, I can understand your reasoning to putting them on this list. Do you mind if I ask you a question based on classic Doctor Who?
Thank you! I'm still quite new to the classic Doctor Who, but curious about the U.N.I.T. Files boxset (containing 'Invasion of the Dinosaurs' and 'The Android invasion') and was wondering if you'd think it's worth purchasing?
Not exactly screaming, BUT, Tooth and Claw was my favorite BECAUSE of the Were-Wolf. Wasn't Underworld, where the suits only had a minimum of hair (except for William in : Evelotion)
Boom Town is a brilliant and underrated episode, it's "substance" was the moral questions surrounding the death sentence, the episode also had excellent dialogue, writing, soundtrack and continuity
Caleb Harris meh. I found it boring
The moral question consisted of one character saying how bad the method of execution was, and the other saying I Don't Care. I've never seen a more vacuous discussion of the moral question before or since.
I think the long game and boom town are two of my favourites from series 1. I’m gonna get a LOT of haters.
100% agree
So underrated
Plus: "This is persecution, what did I ever do to you?" "You tried to kill me, and destroy this planet." "I mean besides that."
The Christmas tree attack in The Christmas Invasion is one of the funniest moments in the show. The "I'm gonna get killed by a Christmas tree!" line always cracks me up.
And tooth and claw is also really good imo.
I prefer the Santabots with the flamethrowing tubas, but the killer tree was hilarious as well.
That_One_Nerd_Guy Tooth and Claw was my first DW episode which hooked me to the show.
Can you do a top 10 overrated Doctor Who episodes?
That is a good idea, do underrated as well.
Yes. That'd be an interesting video.
The Masters Mad Face Yeah, like the Simm' Master.
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Overrated is very subjective most of the time! Just like underrated. For example I just saw the preview for "The God Complex" (because I rewatched The Girl Who Waited, obviously!) today and thought to myself "Hm, kind of an underrated episode imo!"
I do have to disagree with you on your comments about Harriet Jones in the Christmas Invasion. The villain had been defeated, they were retreating and she ordered they were slaughtered by being shot in the back. In that moment she was just another villain that kills because they can.
Thank you!
Also, wasn't the Golden Age that she was supposed to usher in already over. I always took that moment as Harriet had gotten a little to bold and aggressive, so the Doctor had to knock her down a peg.
I agree. She committed genocide. I don't see how that can be justified. The only thing negative fact of Harriet Jones loosing her position was the next Prime Minister was Harrold Saxon...
It wasn't actually genocide -- it was just one ship, not the entire species.
Genocide doesn't mean an entire species. It just means a large number of a certain race or species. There were Thousands of Sykorax on that ship. That would count as a Genocide.
So David what is your favourite Doctor Who episode?
David Tennant: I DON'T KNOW
(Cookie if you get the joke)
What kind of cookie?
Council of Geeks Triple Chocolate
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Hilarious.
We also need bicycles.
These episodes on the list are guilty pleasure episodes,not terribly bad and not really really amazing.Epiodes like these you can go back to and find enjoyment in,like tooth and claw it's an episode you can watch without needing to continuing the narrative of that series.
I generally prefer my Doctor Who to not continue a series narrative.
i always thought the cat people were cats that evolved into a human-like body over billions of years...
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So practically Red Dwarf lol
"that was murder!" Have to side with the doctor on this one, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one. two officials being killed on that ship does not justify murdering a ship full of sycorax at all. "they were leaving" you dont send out a probe with A positive blood in it only for a bunch of alians to find and abuse to control one third of earths population, have the doctor help you defend the planet and then murder an entire ship full of them after they agreed to leave! Harriot Jones, you crossed a line and you needed to own up to that and learn from its consequenses.
I find the End of Time is hilarious as a drinking game, as everything is so repetitive. Also at the end of part 1 when the master race is all over earth, there is a part where a master throws his hat into the air, and a master behind him picks it up, puts it on, AND STARTS BREAK DANCING!
whats the game lol
The Christmas invasion was my first david tennant episode.
and your opinion is your opinion.
i liked the episode and hte "Im gonna get killed by a christmas tree"
had me laughing hard.
Me too i loved that quote
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Don't shit on Alonzo in voyage of the Damed he was to notch
Personally I liked the monsters in Gridlock, but they could've been taken out. Also, when I saw the mood patches, I thought that's what the episode would be about. But I liked the concept, and the preparation for Utopia later on
Voyage of the damned is the best Christmas special wtf
I think the christmas specials are a uniquely british taste: they clearly take a lot from the concept of ‘the pantomime’ which has a close association with christmas over here, so the over-acting and cheesiness of the RTD specials are 100% in keeping with that, a reading i assume is lost without the concept of pantomimes across the pond(?)
Boom town, was written as a very cheap episode, to balance out the more effect heavy episodes in the season. The farting Slytheen was part of the reason for Chris Eccleston leaving. It is meant to focus on their scene in the restaurant and the morality of the Death Penalty, etc. But it is quite superficial.
There are many great dramas that have debated the morality of the death penalty. Someone should have said "Russell, it's been done, and without fart gags "
wrong, in tooty and claw David Tennant was asked not to use his actual accent, so in tooth and claw its a scottish actor acting british pretending to be scottish
One of my favorite things about watching your videos is that I agree with you about 70% of the time and the other 30% of the time you are so respectful yeah so respectful about the way you talk about the things you dislike that it really makes me realize that you are a fan and I appreciate your videos even more
I agree with most of your choices but in my opinion Voyage of the Damned is awesome
"I'm the Doctor. I'm a Time Lord. I'm from the planet Gallifrey in the constellation of Kasterborous; I am 903 years old, and I'm the man who's going to save your lives and all six billion people on the planet below... You got a problem with that?"
...
"In that case, Alons-y!"
Charley Newman that was an awsome quote
Voyage has some good moments but the plot is a complete mess. Go watch Diamanda Hagan's review of it
Charley Newman you know now the earth population is 7 billion
And back in 2008 it was six billion
You realise we need some birth control
I loved voyage of the damned, it was awesome
I liked The Runaway Bride
Skullexandria Gloomelda me too, may be biased because I LOVE DONNA, but I think it gets better if you watch series 4 and go back to it.
Skullexandria Gloomelda Me too. It was my first episode, so bias blah blah, but it was great in my opinion
Remember what he said? Not all of these episodes are really bad because there is not much to choose from.
Skullexandria Gloomelda Me too
Zach Champion Same here. As overly-shouty and aggressive Donna was, it was a good change a pace from the teary "I love you" Rose. That's why Donna worked so well with Ten. For someone so vain and sanctimonious, having a companion to bring him down and throw jabs at him was a good balance.
The Long Game is an annoying one for me because quite often I find myself thinkiing how great it would be to see Simon Pegg in Doctor Who, only to then remember, "Oh wait, he's already done it."
Then again, other actors have done multiple roles in the show so he could make another appearance.
I don't really think that Russell has made any awful episodes maybe not even any bad ones.(This is my opinion)
Boom Town is a psychological piece. She was going to destroy Earth to get back to civilization, that was the plot, it was meant to be a look at what separates the Doctor from the villains, if he doesn't care about the consequences of his actions.
The point of the body swapping in New Earth is to get a stationary villain into the action. Obviously.
And do you really need to shout everything you say?
I honestly don't mean to... I get worked up. I gave up trying to stop myself doing it a while back.
It's good you're doing videos about Doctor Who there isn't enough people doing them
I think the tonal switching in New Earth works best when Cassandra is forced to take the body of one of the diseased and she realizes how horrible it is for them. The fact that this character who had mostly been played for laughs and was a terrible person could actually be effected by emotion really made me feel more for the diseased people and Cassandra herself when she died.
You should have done a ranking of his stories instead
Dona should come back - if they can bs us with Clara and Bille they can also fix her story, giving her good ending. She is the only companion from new Doctor Who, who deserves it. It would be an amazing story for the next anniversary finale - we don't need explosions and saving whole world again. We need Doctor to look back and fix everything he has done badly. From Susan to Donna (visiting Ponds would be a nice touch also; stealing some regenerations for River, so she could be another recurring regenerating character like Master; returning for Ragdoll and Jenny - in this show everything goes, and after next few decades coming back to old characters would be an awesome idea).
Love and Monsters is my worst episode of new who as a whole. To me, its boring, fairly cringey with some scenes, and it felt like an insult to the fans instead of a commentary on them.
Ben Mercer second worst, I’m still putting Sleep no more as the worst episode of new who “you will be scared of the dust in your eye”... that’s just too stupid to function.
Yeah, Sleep No More and Love & Monsters are both REALLY terrible. It's hard to say which is worse.
I loved that episode and idk why
I disagree I think it was a fun break episode away from the more serious storylines, it that was slight hearted
Really? Aliens of London and World War III? I really like that episode, but then again as you said, not all of these episodes are horrible.
One of the best stories 👍
I thought Partners In Crime was excruciatingly tedious and silly, so that one would defo be on my top ten. Overall I think Davies gets a little too much credit, he has his good episodes (midnight, waters of Mars, etc.) and he makes good story arcs, but as an individual episode writer, I'd say Moffat actually takes the cake.
WAAAAY TOO
oh loooook they almost meet buuuuut they don't. Also Donna reallllly wants to be with the Dr. even though she didn't when we first met her, why because plot demands it.
For some reason, Boomtown is an episode you don't remember very much, but once you re-watch it you see it's actually good, we've got captain jack, we've got a difference villain dynamic, we've got some great mickey moments. And it really fits well in the series.. and yet not very remarkable
I like love and monsters because it's interesting to see a group of normal people in the doctor who Universe who don't constantly fight monsters I want to see a show about LINDA
I personally really like tooth and claw but I can see why it would be bad. The monks are goofy and a lot of the actions/characters are dumb. Although the werewolf looks dumb, it's the best I've seen. The others I've seen are the hairless crap in Harry Potter, the men with hair glued on them from the wolfman or the just wolves in stuff like Twilight.
Another Communist Fruitcake I actually enjoyed both the Doctor Who werewolfs and the Harry Potter werewolfs I was scared by both as a kid sort of stupid but tons of the monsters in Doctor Who scared me at the time.
Another Communist Fruitcake agreed, as a kid I was never scared of doctor who until that episode and that messed me up for months XD
I loved Tooth and Claw, everything except the contrived ending
OH BOY! As a werewolf movie fan, I can give you good werewolf recommendations. Want a werewolf design to blow your mind: Bad Moon. The movie is great but the werewolves are amazing even to today. It was made, 1996ish? And proof that practical effects age better.
Wait, when did Harry Potter have werewolves
Love and monsters was a great idea but the execution was bad. I love how the group is searching for the doctor, it shows a simple human side to doctor who, it could happen in real life. But the abzorbaloff was the only problem.
It also really hurt me to see Gridlock on this as it's one of my fave and I understand about the cat nurses but I found them quite charming but I'm a cat person
When you say you're "a cat person..."
@@CouncilofGeeksis that different than a person cat?
I sort of like Love and Monsters. The ending almost killed it, though.
I’ve gotta say that the Christmas invasion is probably my second least favourite RTD episode. It’s boring as hell, the fact that the doctor does nothing until the end, the fact that it’s more interested in showing Rose looking at the doctor all the time instead of you know ACTUALLY trying to stop the Sycorax and the fact that the Sycorax goes to waste. They’re good monsters but they do nothing. They just stand there. Only the leader does something. I do agree with the fact that it gets good with the Doctor fighting the leader but that in like the last fifteen minutes. My god a complete disaster of an episode
I bloody loved Tooth and Claw.
Apart from the stupid monster (which you can't blame) and the shitty ending I enjoy Love and Monsters and will still rewatch it along with all the other episodes except for Fear Her. Seriously how was Fear Her not on here
I think it should have been on but it is written by Matthew Graham :)
Gabriel Curle I didn't even mind the monster that much. That fucking ending though. And now it's even worse knowing that the episode was written around a kids fucking concept! Imagine that kid watching with his parents and it gets to the end and that's what they leave you with! I know the term gets thrown around a lot but that 30 seconds of Doctor Who was a complete disgrace.
He only did episodes RTD wrote.
Gabriel Curle Fear Her was pretty good. I can probably count all bad episodes on one hand, most have been awesome.
I personally would need two hands to count all the bad episodes, because series three had more than five episodes...
Love and Monsters I figured was gonna appear here but I love it all the same.
I think I like new earth, I like the plot, I like Cassandra's return, I always like returns- whatever it is, I like the cat nurses, it's overall enjoyable, it somehow works for me
I always have a very soft spot in my heart for Boom Town. When I was little the Slitheen in the Aliens in London two-parter genuinely gave me a week of nightmares between the two episodes and I liked seeing some more resolution from that. And all the characters going out for a meal together in Cardiff and having a laugh felt so genuinely like a group of friends and just gives me this comforting sense about it. I feel like if nothing else, Boom Town sold me on if they decided to do a bottle episode which was nothing more than some of the characters we had come to enjoy at the time just hanging out for an episode, I’d still really thoroughly enjoy it too
If a Council of Geeks Doctor Who video doesn't mention the Derek Jacobi head turn, does it even exist?
Nope. Nope. Nope. Not gridlock. Please no. That's honestly one of my favourite episodes.
Edit: Oh Christmas invasion is hands down the best Christmas special. But that isn't saying much. I agree with what you said there dispite loving the episode.
Edit: (I'm writing this as I'm watching it) tooth and claw is another favourite of mine, a lot of nostalgia is probably influencing that though.
Edit: spot on with boom town
Edit: aliens of London should have been higher it's a really good episode.
Edit: I'm good with what you said about the long game
Edit: series two is my favourite so it's hard for me to criticise any episode from it.
Edit: Final edit, I love love and monsters. Fight me.
MR FLIBBLE! How's Rimmer doing?
Can you do a top 10 Worst Doctor Who Cliffhangers
I could tell you the worst cliffhanger,it was when.................................
Personally, I love the Slitheen Episodes. The first pair are maybe a bit goofy, but the farting is, in my opinion, bearable, and serves to make the villains less likeable rather than taking down the quality of the episode itself. The slow unzipping, I assume, is just something that comes with the skin suits. It takes a while to get in or out of them. That's important for the ending.
Boom Town, as well, while being a fairly forgettable episode in terms of alien plans, is fairly important on an emotional level, in my opinion. Mickey and Rose talk for a while, and more or less break up in this episode. Of course, he comes running a couple episodes later, but that gets addressed. It connects to episode 3 via the rift, of course back to the previous Slitheen episodes, and forward to the next pair with the Heart of the Tardis, and the Extrapolator. And the dynamic between Margaret/Blon and the Doctor is just so entertaining. While it's probably the least memorable episode of the series, it's good fun.
And I kind of like the Long Game, but I won't argue that one with you, because I see your points. Also, I feel like Elton is compelling enough for a short episode, though I'll maybe agree with you that the others aren't. And there was no build up to tell us he liked Ursula before he told us.
Same with me! Maybe it’s because I grew up with them, but despite knowing how ridiculous they are as an alien, they always held a place in my doctor who loving heart 😂
anyone else think he looks like the nostalgia critic
You're not the first to point it out. I'd say I have more hair, but I guess you can't really tell.
ya, also he has a much thinner face. while yours it a bit more rounded.
How would I know if anyone else thinks that?
@@monteemann7325 So rude
But I know it's not by Russel T Davies which The Shakespeare Code was actually written by Gareth Roberts so in my opinion if my worst one for Russell's episodes has to be (not love and monsters because I actually like that episode since I was 6 when I first saw it and I still love it to this day) tooth and claw because I never thought it would be engaging but the only think I could appreciate from it was the sad ending with the werewolf dying in peace along with sad music in the background and the next time sequence after new earth stopped which is another episode I really like too
This is my top 10 least favourite of his era, not just the ones he’s written:
- The Long Game
- New Earth
- Fear Her
- Love and Monsters
- The Lazarus Experiment
- 42
- Daleks In Manhattan / Evolution of the Daleks
- The Next Doctor
- Planet of the Dead
8:44 It's not about the Titanic, the while episode the Poseiden Adventure
It's very, very rare that I have the sort of knee-jerk reactions to lists that most people joke about when they say "People will dislike this". But as soon as you said Gridlock, I was full on "LOLWAT" - one of my favorite episodes, hands down. Opinions vary I guess.
Well I did warn you.
I feel like Christmas specials are supposed to be goofy, though. If it was all serious and normal then it wouldn't really feel like Christmas. It's just generally supposed to be "have fun and don't think to much about it and just enjoy it for what it is." Then again, this is a ranking so your somewhat forced to think too much about it. Nonetheless, good video, keep up the good work.
13:30 The doors closed because the Doctor used his sonic screwdriver on the buttons. Because of that, I’m not sure if even a hand would’ve obstructed their closing process.
I liked how in love and monsters had the vlogging style and the perspective but the story and the villain and the end and stuff like that were horrible and I hated them
The third act of Love and Monsters really hurts to think about, because I loved everything before that. I guess it's like the Series 9 finale trilogy, if that's a fair comparison
6:15 I always hated the Harriet Jones thing, it feels like so far a departure from "Face of Evil" when The Doctor lays out his philosophy after he dealt with the threat, and the residents are arguing about choosing a new leader, and Baker's adorably blase delivery of "Ah, but that's not my problem." And that's generally his opinion, even Troughton was so squeamish about regime change. I think because this dovetails with Ten's habit of opposing people not for being evil or dangerous, but simply for opposing his personal morality, which is arguably his second-worst character trait.
I'm very disappointed with your takeaway from Boom Town. Such a lovely slice of season 1 joy.
I disagree with everything except New Earth, Christmas Invasion, and, maybe, Voyage. Gridlock and AOL/WW3 are, in particular, some of my absolute faves. But I still like hearing your views.
Thinking about it, your whole thing about the Cat People and the Hath and just sticking Animals on human bodies to make aliens really brings a new perspective to the scene with the Pig 'Alien' in 'Aliens of London'.
You ever notice writers for doctor who often have like two or three great ideas but they glom them all into one episode and it comes out horribly
If Gridlock didn't have Ardal O'Hanlon in then I wouldn't have really liked it.
I would have put Last of the Timelords in there. It's really stupid. The Master turns the Doctor in Dobbie, and through some magic words spread by Martha, he is returned to normal???
So magic words didn't help the Doctor?
Rebel Captain I know that magic words wouldn't save the Doctor.
the Jesus Doctor was a fucking Deus Ex Machina but, except for that, the episode was good.
Still waiting for an answer.
Paul Charles Morris The satellites were used to cancel out the master's perception filter and use it to give power to the doctor. Still doesnt make as much sense however it wasnt magic or prayer.
I saw New Earth and it was actually pretty good. Favorite part was the Doctor being very excited that he cured all those artificial humans of the diseases, I just get a big smile and laugh along with David Tennant. It's such a triumphant moment.
15:27 only just realized that the new earth skyline was masked over rhossilli bay which really took me by surprise.
I thought the elevator was a problem, but he actually soniced it closed. His hands were free when it opened though (I think), but sometimes you "lag" when something out of left field happens.
In defense of the cat people, I believe they're supposed to be a race that evolved on Earth during the millions of years between now and the End of the World, like Jabe's species was in that.
Yeah I follow the theory, but I still think it's the lazy design choice to make for a non-human species.
True. It'd like how I get frustrated with Star Trek, especially Next Generation, when it feels like the only way to make an alien is various bumps on the head somewhere.
@@RileyJSilverman TNG had a low budget though. What about Discovery?
@@MovieMagic515 Discovery is way better at this, yes.
Are we going to find out The Face of Bo is a future Captain Jack?
I loved aliens of London and world war 3 as a little kid, If you sat me in front of Netflix with aliens of London, world war 3 or tooth and claw and I was satisfied.
I love that rant on "New Earth". Still my least favourite series opener.
I used to love it. Sometime after abandoning the series when Matt Smith arrived. I didn’t know about regeneration and just knowing David Tennant left and seeing his scary brick shitting performance in Jessica Jones had me revisit the series, and that was the first episode I saw and had tears of nostalgia during the end credits song.
I like gridlock, but overall, I very much agree with a lot of what u said. THANK YOU so much for acknowledging how terrible the doctor was to harriet jones. personally, I saw the dilemma she was in and she was doing the best she could. also, in doing that, he removed Britain's primary defender, and who rose in her place... oh yeah, the MASTER! Ten actually created the larger problem later in quite a few ways. also, the doctor has done worse. u could easily successfully argue that 10 did in runaway bride. I was the opposite of u with that one. I didn't like how 10 killed all the racknoss childen just bc the empress was evil. i'm arachnophobic, but those were still kids who didn't commit horrors at that point. only the empress did. u don't kill millions bc of the actions of one. but I admit that disdain for that moment is probably bc the same people who justify that moment r the same people who hate 11 for tricking the silence into ordering their execution in day on the moon. they hate 11 for teaching the human race how to defend themselves against an alien race that has continued to manipulate/hurt or kill them and who are all adults, but its ok for 10 to kill racknoss kids? sheesh, the double standard! but there are elements of runaway bride that I liked, like a quite a few on here. but overall, I totally agree with u. good video.
I wouldn't have put Love and Mosters so high on the list, except for that god awful ending with the image of Elton shagging a paving slab with a face left in my head. Too often Doctor Who seems afraid to do sad and we have this awful hollywood type stick on a happyish ending.
Boom Town was a last minute addition after the original script about the Doctor genetically engineering Rose to be the perfect companion was rejected and RTD had to quickly write Boom Town, so which would you rather?
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No mention of Queen Victoria? I really liked her in "Tooth and Claw".
I liked "New Earth", though I understand its problems. Cassandra, Rose, and the Doctor have an excellent byplay, though. Tennant, Piper, and Zoe Wanamaker are incredible actors and really elevate the episode with how entertaining they are to watch, IMO.
A lot of these episodes are quite good. I only soured on RTD after Torchwood: Children of Earth. But I 100% agree on "Love & Monsters."
Are you kidding me .voyage of the damn is one of the best Christmas special .i have lost lot some respect for you for putting it on the list :
I absolutely agree on Gridlock. I like that episode, mainly because of the premise - generations living and dying in a traffic jam, sustained by the hope for eventually finding an off ramp which doesn't exist. But you're right that it didn't need giant crab monsters or mood drugs, both of which could have been fine episodes on their own but served little purpose in Gridlock.
As an aside, maybe it's me but I read Gridlock as being allegorical for life. The endless grind for a phantom freedom which no one ever attains.
What were the episodes in between?
Partners in Crime, Rose and The Next Doctor.
I don’t know how tooth and claw is on this list it’s gotta be in my top 10 greatest ever episodes of Doctor who
I agree with the number one, I believe it's the worst Doctor Who Episode ever
She kill a ship of a different race
In regards to the cat people Russell T Davies has clearly no imagination when it comes to doctor who monsters basically the Russell T Davies recipe for a monster is step 1, open a book of animals on a random page, step 2 make a note of the first animal you see (pig, cat, rhinoceros, squid, fish, fly etc) step 3, put the animals head on top of paul kasey and bon appetit the lazy man's guide to monster making
And Moffats why of winning is go back in time and change the whole timeline or tell your past self something you need so you have it in the future.
I want a doctor who Christmas special that's very little in the way of monsters and just The Doctor spending time with as many present and mostly former companions as possible.
I hate to break it to you but Rose Tyler is the best thing ever.
What beer is that behind you in the video?
Loved voyage of the damned but agree with you on most of these. Max Capricorn sucked though.
is that scarf a reference or just a coincidence
It's a 4th Doctor scarf.
I have a soft spot for gridlock but it didn’t explore half the stuff. The dodgy moods were never dealt with or explored. They still had maccra in the city. We also didn’t get much of face of bo either. It was all a bit rushed
Love and Mosters doesn't exist. we do not talk about Love and Monsters.
ha love the Racnose impression
shla shla shla
So are the cat people better than the space insect from that classic Tom Baker episode where the "villain" was a guy in a bubble wrap suit?
I like New Earth and Gridlock. We need more of the face of boe, or jack as a young face of boe. I also think the cat people are interesting...also because they remind me if the khajiit (from the tes)
Honestly, I actually like Love and Monsters, probably just nostalgia, but I felt that story was decent. Anyway, there was 10 in your best list, and 10 in your worst list, so there's three left. Which ones were they?
Partners in Crime, The Next Doctor and Rose. All three for me are a mix of things that work and things that don't which more or less balance out.
Council of Geeks can you rank them so I have a concise ranking of the RTD episodes?
Council of Geeks, thanks for replying.
It'd probably go The Next Doctor, Rose and Partners in Crime from better to less better.
Council of Geeks sheesh not a fan of partners in crime? And thanks for the reply :)
Thank you for pointing out that issue w Christmas Invasion. And I have some times wondered is Hay J( Harriet Jones) possibly finding herself in some of the strange set of circumstances like Hilary Clinton has? Both face crazy shit and both get undeserved backlash for it, might they be linked? Just wondering...
The other issue with the Doctor's actions to Harriet is that the Doctor left space for Harold Saxon to become Prime Minister. They should have mentioned that when he showed up.
Just like every era* of Doctor Who, it always has some stinkers. RTD didn't write the best stuff of his era (other than maybe Midnight?), but he did write some of the dodgy ones- kind of his job to fill in the gaps to make up a season, though.
*- Apart from the legendary series 13 and 14, of course.
13 & 14? You mean Series 3 & 4?
@@f-zilla7347 Good grief, no! the original 13 and 14.
... Although RTD seasons 3 and 4 are his best in my book, they are still unconsistent, just not as inconsistent as his first two. The only time the show was that good was with Hinchcliffe!
@@MrLtia1234 Ahhh I apologize good chap, I must of misinterpreted what you were saying.
I must agree however, Tom Baker’s second and third seasons are absolutely amazing and peak Doctor Who, that’s why he’s the best Doctor!
Haha, I always loved the "Don't stand me against the lift" bit purely because it's cheeky smiley Eccleston at his best.
I used to say The Long Game would have been better without the Jagrafess. Now I'd say the Jagrafess is fine (could do with a better design though) but there is definitely a case of incorrect assigned roles going on. It would be perfect with the Editor as the main villain, since a man in a suit brainwashing the Earth works better than a limbless mouth slug doing it. But the Jagrafess can be the Editor's enforcer, killing off anyone who stands up to the Editor. This smart and mysterious Editor serving as the underling to a roaring mollusc just doesn't make sense
I rather liked Voyage of the Damned. New Earth was ok too (to me). Tenant's lesser performance is not a big deal (could even be explained as the new regeneration's personality is still settling in) so I'm fine with it. Therianthropy (part animal/ part human) is pretty common. (its where vampires & werewolves come from even) So, I tend to be a bit more tolerant of it when it's done.
Otherwise, I pretty much agree with your list.
10. The Christmas invasion (I actually don't mind this episode but something had to be number 10)
9. Aliens of London / World war three (Could have been a very good story but was executed terribly)
8. Partners in crime
7. The stolen Earth / Journeys end
6. Tooth and Claw
5. Army of Ghosts / Doomsday
4. New Earth
3. The End of Time
2. Utopia / The sound of drums / Last of The TimeLords (Utopia is actually very good but I dislike the latter two parts so much that they really bring the story as a whole down)
1. Love & Monsters
Interesting list, though some on it I do enjoy, I can understand your reasoning to putting them on this list. Do you mind if I ask you a question based on classic Doctor Who?
Ask away, just know I've still got some gaps in my classic viewing.
Thank you! I'm still quite new to the classic Doctor Who, but curious about the U.N.I.T. Files boxset (containing 'Invasion of the Dinosaurs' and 'The Android invasion') and was wondering if you'd think it's worth purchasing?
Unfortunately those are some of the episodes I haven't gotten to yet, so I'm not really in a position to say.
Not exactly screaming, BUT, Tooth and Claw was my favorite BECAUSE of the Were-Wolf. Wasn't Underworld, where the suits only had a minimum of hair (except for William in : Evelotion)
Since he only wrote twenty three episodes why do a top team it would have been better to do a top five list instead