LSD. Bad. Bad. He Told US Navy Sailors Why.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- This is a clip from a film the U.S. Navy made to influence sailors not to take LSD in 1967. The Navy doctor went out of his way to state the facts that were available at that time. If you have taken LSD, you may or may not agree with these facts. I'd be interested to hear your comments in response.
The use of LSD and other psychedelics was widespread among the counterculture of the 1960s. When individuals using these substances ended up in medical institutions or psychiatric hospitals, their conditions varied, depending on various factors such as dosage, individual sensitivity, or the presence of any underlying mental health conditions.
Here are some of the manifestations that were observed at that time:
Physical Effects:
Dilated pupils: One of the common physical symptoms of LSD use.
Increased heart rate and blood pressure: This could sometimes lead to palpitations or feelings of anxiety in the user.
Tremors: Some users would exhibit tremulousness or shakiness.
Nausea: Though more commonly associated with other psychedelics, some LSD users could feel nauseous.
Increased body temperature: Some individuals reported feeling either very hot or very cold.
Sweating or chills: These are common responses to the altered state brought about by LSD.
Mental/Psychological Effects:
Hallucinations: Visual, auditory, and tactile hallucinations are common with LSD.
Depersonalization: This is a feeling of being detached from oneself.
Derealization: This is a feeling that the world is strange or unreal.
Paranoia: Some users felt extremely paranoid or believed that they were being persecuted.
Panic attacks or extreme anxiety: These were among the reasons why individuals might be brought to hospitals.
Flashbacks: Some individuals experienced spontaneous, recurring episodes where they would re-experience the sensations or hallucinations from their trip.
Aggravation of underlying mental health issues: Those with predispositions to conditions like schizophrenia or bipolar disorder could potentially have their symptoms exacerbated by LSD use.
Bad trips: A negative, frightening, or overwhelming experience while on LSD. This could involve intense anxiety, fear, paranoia, or even terrifying hallucinations.
The approach to treating individuals who had bad trips or adverse reactions to psychedelic drugs like LSD varied depending on the severity of the symptoms, the individual's overall mental health, and the prevailing practices of the institution or hospital. By the 1960s and 1970s, the medical community had developed several methods to address acute and chronic reactions to psychedelics:
Immediate Care (for acute symptoms):
Talking down: This was a common practice, especially in the immediate aftermath of a bad trip. Health professionals would try to reassure the individual, offering a calm and supportive environment to help the person return to a more grounded state.
Medication: Benzodiazepines (like Valium or Ativan) might be administered to reduce anxiety and agitation. In cases of severe psychosis, antipsychotic medications (like Thorazine) might be used.
Extended Care (for long-term symptoms):
Psychotherapy: This was a primary mode of treatment. Therapists would work with the individual to help them process their experience, address any underlying psychological issues, and provide coping mechanisms.
Group Therapy: Group settings could be beneficial for some individuals to share their experiences and feelings with others who had similar experiences. It offered a platform for mutual understanding and support.
Medication: For those who exhibited ongoing symptoms of psychosis, depression, or other mental health disorders, appropriate psychiatric medications might be prescribed.
Education: Teaching patients about the effects and potential dangers of drug use, including the risk of recurrent hallucinogenic persisting perception disorder (often referred to as "flashbacks").
Rehabilitation and Social Reintegration:
Occupational therapy: Engaging the patient in productive activities to help reorient them to daily life.
Social skills training: Some patients, especially those who might have been deeply entrenched in drug culture, were provided with skills training to help them reintegrate into society.
Family therapy: Families were sometimes involved in the therapeutic process, especially if the individual was young. This would help families understand the experience of the patient and provide an appropriate support system at home.
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David Hoffman filmmaker
I personally think all people in high ranking goverment posts should be required to take a trip and have a look at themselves..
3 rules. Cars kill, fire burns, and if you think you can fly, try taking off from ground level first.
Plus 4) water can drown ya.
@@jonhanna4076i think thats covered by rule 3
knives r sharp
@@jonhanna4076but you should drink a lot of water
He said he isn’t gonna lie to us.
He lied
@@discdoggie He definitely told a few whoppers there. 😲😁
Great homework on your description writes up David. This film clip is fascinating when you think that the Vietnam conflict was raging over in Southeast Asai when this film was made. I know a number of Vietnam Vets where introduce to drugs and alcohol over sea or when they return home to the States to relive the trauma of having ben in a war. Thanks David Hoffman 😊✌🧡
Oops! Southeast Asia
Albert Hoffman
The military experimented with the stuff in an attempt to find a mind control drug. Of course it didn't work and was abandoned. While I was in experimentation there were those who used the substance and had various reactions. Years later I went to an outdoor concert where several were bicycling the area selling tabs of it. Later, I remember seeing some who had used it, rolling around in the grass, laughing. It wasn't always prevalent or available but when you saw someone using it you knew. Seems it was really at it's peak use around the end of the 60's. I was stationed near SF and went there on occasion for site seeing. I remember a group of people wearing robes with long hair and beards on a hillside singing and chanting and assumed they were using the stuff. That was in 1969.
Where have you been?
@@enckidoofalling2883 "He's been here
He's been there
And he's been in between"
As a former drug counselor (still certified), his descriptions of the acute effects of LSD are surprisingly accurate for 1967. He's also right that driving while on LSD is a terrible idea. I didn't care for the scare tactics that followed the first half. LSD is not for everyone. I was emotionally unstable as a teenager due to problems at home which I kept secret, and I had a bad trip most of the time I did LSD which I think was more due to heavy marijuana use during acid trips, although this wasn't a problem for me on shrooms, which were less powerful, or on mescaline in pill form.
Yes, the use of LSD can cause permanent psychiatric problems (called substance-induced or LSD-induced psychosis) but usually only if you take too much. I developed schizophrenia in my 20s which I attribute to youth trauma, but if you have underlying mental health conditions, that combined with LSD can also cause permanent psychiatric problems. I didn't like how this man used the word psychotic to scare people. In a nutshell psychotic basically means having active hallucinations. Having active hallucinations occurs nearly every day for me, and I'm a pretty normal guy who you'd never guess has schizophrenia.
Who the fk would drive on lsd
Psychiatric illnesses are NOT a pharmacological effect of Hallucinogens, especially LSD. People with a predisposition for psychiatric illnesses are at far greater risk of having untoward reactions when taking Hallucinogen’s especially without a guide or knowing what they are taking or the amount taken.
Everyone has the potential, within, to become psychotic or to experience psychiatric psychosis whether or not they use drugs. An enormous amount of peer reviewed scientific research papers have been published proving out these facts.
Set & Setting are the ultimate factors to the outcome of a Psychedelic experience. Once you have commited to the Experience you must submit to it and accept everything that comes up within it. Difficult LSD experiences can become the most useful and worthwhile for emotional development. Neurosis like OCD, ADD/ADHD, suicidal ideation, anorexia, bulimia etc..can be completely resolved in some people using high dose LSD or LAE.l therapy-guided therapy by a professional like me.
Tryptamines & Ergoline’s are very safe when used with a seasoned professional.
@@jimmyzhang9134 Neal Cassady
Interesting Wow how long do they normally last?
When LSD falls on your tongue it makes a loud sound. That's consciousness affecting consciousness creating consciousness. So the LSD is consciousness. It hits the tongue which is consciousness and the sound it creates is consciousness.
I've taken many pscydelics and LSD many times. This informative video is correct until about the midway point it gets into some assumptions and myths scattered throughout the second half.
No bro it's actually true
@@Deepvisionwiki No, it isn't, and I'm not your bro.
Ofcourse not. Are you going to tell me that LSD is therapeutic? 🤣🤣😂😂🤣 Oh no maybe legalize LSD too before Marijuana?
@@Deepvisionwiki you're a loser bro 😂
Guilty! More than once! LOL
My side hurts thinking about the laughter i had watching my older siblings on LCD i WISH we had pocket cameras back then! Seeing them "turn on" was funny but it turned me off to it but at the time they loved it, they turned out to be kind loving down to earth successful people, everyone that experimented or used didn't grow horns or become criminals however most anything you "abuse will have consequences
Ever seen Trip To Where? It’s an LSD scare film also involving sailors
curious that the US govt provided this to the citizens in selective social experiments with no responsibility or accountability
At that time, especially, each branch of government agency were wildly independent. The 1950/60s CIA under Allen Dulles was basically acting in a vacuum doing all kinds of wild sht
Whew...I'm glad those attitudes have been changed. Many clinical uses and of course so much of what "they" thought or pretended to think back then has been disproven. And many, such as where, when and with whom, are good advice.
Set and Setting -- which, to his credit, he did say in the beginning.
Midway - the acid kicked in or something. 😂
I remember seeing a Navy-produced video telling sailors not to snort bath salts. It was pretty intense. It was shot in first person from the perspective of someone having psychosis. The upshot was if they had to lock you in the psych ward cause you smoked or snorted bath salts, your CO was going to be very upset, and they're definitely going to discharge you.
Good evening David thanks for sharing this. This video for the military to show what LSD can do to you, during the Vietnam war. If you join the military you have to watch this video. The discription seem like you do your research well, lots of information. I would have to really think.
i stopped traffic on 7th avenue in the west village to pry out of the asphalt a glittering diamond necklace, people screaming and honking at me---turned out to be just a coke can imbedded in the asphalt--oh well
I once quit cooking because the bowl was crawling with bugs and I wasnt sure if they were an hallucination. I put on saran wral and put it in the fridge till someone sober could verify. Weevils were in fact there.
Me and friends used to kill ourselves all the time back when did acid...
The face at the start is Van Murray Sim. Why was his face used in this way? I know who he was and that he was a big part of the LSD & BZ research back in the 60’s & 70’s. He was a very decent man and Hallucinogen researcher.
I don't always eat LSD, just kidding of course I do!
I’ve taken a fair bit of it when I was younger, from the late 90’s to early 00’s.
We used to buy the tabs on tiny pieces of paper the first one I took was a “white lightning” in 1995.
Me and a few mates got them and planned a night together. In a nutshell it was amazing. We mostly had the giggles and talked rubbish, my visuals consisted of things looking pixelated, like purple squares covering things, like a purple snow.
No paranoia, no bad vibes, we all seemed tobe tuned in together.
I took it so many times, there were different names for the acid tabs. I’ve had “Strawbs”, “push bikes” and a few more I can’t remember their name. The last time I took LSD was in liquid form, that was about 2004. It was very intense. Everything appeared to be red and a bit haunting/scary. I didn’t panic I just rode it, but it carried on for hours, I’d say from 10 pm when I took it and it was still affecting me at 5pm the following day.
I’d never take it again as I’ve grown up, but I don’t regret experimenting with it. Great times for me.
I remember paper acid back in the mid 90s
Did you have a long-term effects from all that acid?
@@t.dwhitaker8808 Never had anything remotely like a flashback and consider myself very experienced. Also agree with @Dan23_7; it was loads of fun as a youngster but as I got older, it just wasn’t something I cared to experience anymore. I think from your very first trip, it definitely changes your perception of life around you in a somewhat permanent way. But that’s not to say in any kind of negative way though. Just different. Not regrets.
How many mics of LSD did you dose the thanks button with? (I presume that's why you've suggested that I lick it if I like it....)
Yea the Navy told us about LSD, we were 18 from the farmlands of America, we never heard of it before, so of course we ran right out to try it! Sort of backfired there, like DARE did in the 80s, it just taught kids about drugs they'd never heard of. Well intentioned men of zeal, but little understanding.
Phil Lesh the bass player for The Greatful Dead said that he almost always took LSD or some kind of psychedelic before every show they’ve ever played. The Dead toured heavily for ~50 years.
I wonder why they never taught this is school. I was working in a Nursing home as a CNA, and there was a rather young man, mid 30's, who took LSD in the late 60's early 70's. Thought he could fly, but in reality he jumped off a bridge breaking his back and severing his spinal cord. He would be paralyzed from the waste down, and have reoccurring flashbacks from that point on. He was only a teenager at the time and this drug took his life. What a tragedy!
Thats not what LSD does. There’s something else going on there.
@@TheSpaceCoyote82 Sounds more like PCP
Thanks never saw that before. Very frank presentation! Wish that message was endorsed by the CIA for civilians as well. But it got everyone's mind off anything important at the time. Just don't want any Navy personnel on that stuff! Good thinking!
Love sons and daughters
d-lysergic acid diethylamide 25 was synthesized by Albert Hofmann of Sandoz Laboratories in Switzerland back in 1938. I had a book that described the wild ride from the lab after he accidentally got off on the acid he had synthesized. The world hasn't been the same since!😂😂😂
2:00 he said your name
😂
I'll give this guy the benefit of the doubt that he believes what he's saying, but man... this propaganda really helps me understand why my parents are so scared of drugs. They were told so many straight up lies.
It's the classic some truth mixed with a ton of lies.
Albert Hoffman and his famous bike ride.
@11:09 This is how to determine if it is Real.
I have no idea. Never used ANY Drug at all. This includes prescription meds. My Medicine Chest contains a bottle of Aspirin and Iodine and Ben Gay and a box of Band-Aids. This has been true for the past 60 years.
Somehow I missed the whole Counterculture thing as well as Government experimentation.
I wouldn't call LSD insanity. It is however an altered perception which changes as time passes. Of course it is in no way normal perception, but it is not insanity. True insanity is something completely different.
“It’s been two thousand years since anybody has successfully walked on water” 🤣🤣🤣
I have never had a "hangover" from LSD. This old footage is purely propaganda with no standing in actual reality.
Totally.
The closest thing comparable to a “hangover” might be just feeling a little worn out from the ‘intensity’ and all the laughing. Definitely not a hangover as normally described.
this guy would sing a different tune if he took it himself------look for a while at the china cat sunflower pal walkin jingle in the midnight sun
Weird to see more of a please and thank you brief rather than a court martial and possible prison sentence for use of any prohibited substance. Service members don't seem like the intended audience even though they are addressed as such.
I think LSD or other drugs would undermine active military service, so on that point he has a legitimate concern. Also, the unsupervised manner in which these drugs were consumed by young people could be dangerous to themselves. They did not always know exactly what they were buying and the dosage could be too powerful.
Halucigenics have been very important in my life
I believe that with the 'proper' intent yhey are vital to spiritual growth
18:47 boom boom drum roll.....
24:28 a bit strong.. but i would be interested to see what the research says these days...
He keeps saying "material". He needs to give up the "material"...
Where is the line between experimentation and addiction drawn? It's very cloudy. Take a look at the victims of drug addiction in Kensington, PA. Is any amount of experimentation worth the risk of becoming like those enslaved individuals?
LSD and psilocybin mushrooms stop having any effect if you take them multiple days in a row. They're inherently self limiting so it's nearly impossible to get addicted.
That's what's nice about psychedelics. They don't do that to you and they're generally not addictive for most people.
It seems as if this man has experienced it himself or observed many, many test subjects.
I hope that is sarcasm
As someone who has experienced it myself and witnessed in plenty others. its obvious he's never taken it.
It's possible that he was injected with way too much.
LSD is a gift from GOD
See sound and hear colors!
22:38 “We know that the brain is different. It’s difficult to demonstrate how different, and we haven’t gotten enough brains in bottles from acidheads yet to dissect them to see where this damage is.”
Huhh? I thought they were killing themselves left and right!
16:01 “If he is alone, if it’s possible for him, there’s only one escape from this discomfort. That’s suicide. This man will kill himself.”
Haven’t yet.
Total trip of about 20 hours? That guy is talking out of his hairy backside. 12 hours is realistic. Maybe less for some people. Maybe a little more for a smaller percentage of people.
Users who think they can fly or MKUltra spiked you & shoved you out a window🤔
the way he writes the #2 🧐
What utter horse shite
Thanks for sharing David. ✌
He's telling me LSD makes me a commie?
I couldn't get that far in this video. Actually, he's right, but the good kind of Commie. The kind that wants true Peace, Love, and Fairness for All, which is something most humans are incapable of.
the chromosome story was not substantiated
This guy should have done some self-study with the "material" before scaring the bajezus out of those poor soldiers.
Wow this guy took too much.
😄
72 hour trip? Hehe, if you take enough. No, the averagr trip ladts 4 hours with only 2 of that having proper hallucinations and the derealism. If there is a hangover its from dehydration becaise one usually fasts on the stuff.
Imo...More like 4 to 6hr tripping 8 hrs before comedown. 12 hours before its full effects wear off.
Average dose at this time was 400micrograms. It would last this long at this dose
@@toddswartz3510 That’s about what I remember.
Wow... OMG... I guess everyone is different but I never had a "bad trip", strange maybe 🫨 but never bad...
imho, he has a few things right, but missed the bigger picture...
I made a perfect score on a midterm exam, that I had not studied for, while under the influence and sitting in front of the teacher (circa 1970)...she knew I was on "something" but...✌️😎
Thanks for the "flashbacks" David and have a wonderful New Year 🎉🎉🎉
Oh yeah, I gave birth to two healthy, genius males and they know what I did ☺️👍