Been out of action for a few years and I just ran thru the last 10 years DMC winners and for me this was the absolute best. Well done what an incredible talent.
I find it the most paradoxical and hypocritical thing that scratching enthusiasts can be technofobes. You would think that someone who's artform was so strongly rejected by the rest of the music community in it's early days, would be a little more accepting of technological progress and innovation. "Technology destroyed the DJ"? Ya, well it also created it. Young people wanting to diverge from traditional trends, growing old, and then fearing further progress... it is such a predictable pattern by now. This guy did not use technology as a crutch instead of a tool to elevate the art form, his performance was sick!!
It's not the technology, it's the fact that most of this routine is pre-recorded and "chase juggled" all the way through. Basically it's a push play routine with some scratches thrown in.
Just look at the dmc 2001 performances in comparison to this. Using the technology to elevate the art is by making the turntables into musical instruments that create a new song. This guy just played over different songs.
I agree and disagree. His set was set wasn’t the best. But I love technology and I’m sick of ‘old heads’ who are so stubborn. I saw two friends rocking serato One cutting up beats and the other cuttting vocals and changing things up on the fly. Woooooow! I was sold.
Yeah agreed. The tech created it and will redefine it. People like certain skill sets it seems and dont like it when others get a great performance with a little less difficulty (at times). Embrace the change or keep watching nostalgic Craze routines. Both are great options, just enjoy the talent. And my own 2 cents is that Dj Dexta 2000, was trying to achieve modern routines but way ahead of his time. IMHO his sets are amazing, but yeah, thats my preference, nothing more..
Dj fly, this very same guy, won the 2008 world final as well...on vinyl only... everyone complaining about laptops and tech seems to be forgetting they could just watch the DMC SUPREMACY BATTLES, which are vinyl only, and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy this performance... whether you didn't like the music choice or his approach or whatever your qualm maybe, you are free to never watch the showcase battle again and tune in solely to the supremacy battles for your love of vinyl only nostalgia...
Anyone out there kind of misses the old DMC'ing days? The pre-Serato days when you would actually have to flip / change the records? Back when you had to mark your cue on your records with white tape because you didn't have a computer screen to read ? Don't get me wrong.. This video made my jaw drop... I'm just saying... I miss the old days !
I reminisced again.. Don't get me wrong, I think Serato is a great product. Definitely opens up new possibilities that weren't that accessible back in the old days like being able to play a custom track you just made or whatever. That was still an option back in the days, but it would cost you an arm and a leg to cut an acetate record. What Serato has done is do away with the need to go record shopping.. Flipping through crates of records, making a pile, and go listen to them all at the listening booth.. It was expensive as fuck, but I miss that experience... It's a shame this generation of DJs won't get to experience that.. Also! What Serato has also gotten rid of that I miss is the term "rare track".. Remember how back in the days, a rare track was still a thing? You'd have a copy of a sick track that is rare, so barely anyone else has it... And you almost become known as "That DJ who plays that dope track". You can find anything on the net now a days so nothing is rare. **sigh**
@@DBooey That is a good point, the rare track one, it gave DJ's a signature sound of sorts, no more IMO than Dexta 2000. And of course crate digging, sniff. What a joy to go digging with mates or alone. Tech created the DJ and tech will redefine the art. As long as we dont get Kim Kardashian winning off of a complete pre-recorded set. lol. Or would that be funny enough to be hilarious.. I honestly dont know. :)
For you guys saying that he has limited skill and that digital dj's lack creativity. Did you see this guys scratching? Regardless of the whole midi thing, this was incredible. Great skill and creativity (James Bond theme kicked ass) I'm not the only one who thinks this, obviously the judges agreed to.
The Judges in the DMC are not DJs. One DJ and the rest are not DJs. That is why Craze won and not Akakabe back in the day. DJ Cash Money put him first place. Only DJs can judge the technical stuff. The average judge will like more what is musical rather than technical.
I own a Rane 62.. I use Serato for every set I do… I love Serato…That being said I am not down with allowing Serato in the DMC Championships… Where are the stickers all over the records? Where is the panic and rush to swap out records to get to the next track? The fear of a misplaced or jumping needle? Watching the older Champions, they look like surgeons..laser focused This dude looks more like he is playing at a club… Lip Syncing to the tracks, trying to hype the crowed…and not showing much skill.. at least the last DJ Izoh and Vajra used the computer aid to show even more skills on the tables…. ….2013 must have been a slow year...
cool for a dance hall for people to groove to! but not a fuckin dj competition! anybody can do that shit know days! use real records to show real manipulation of a record! DMC SHOULD NEVER HAVE ALLOW THIS FAKE ASS PRE-MADE MIX SHIT! why even touch the dam turntable since you aint doin nuthin in the first place the mega mix is doin it all by itself!
I just looked at the rules for DMC now with digital vinyl : "There will be no restrictions on the DVS settings but no other devices/externals will be allowed for 2011. " That means the vinyls can be set up to run relative… correct me if i am wrong here… but to me that feels like you are not only pissing in the face of all the champions prior.. but shitting in their cereal as well.. I am not saying it doesn't take skill to be good using DVS, on the contrary, its just a different beast…DVS should have its place in DMC since digital is the current way of doing things, BUT I just feel DMC should split the "finals" into 2 categories, digital and analog… but instead of analog call it "classic"… and i would be more than content with the "new" DMC
Such a great set! It's unfortunate for anyone who doesn't understand how amazing this really is. The old school battles were dope too, but things have changed. Technology is a double edge sword and it can help or hurt a dj. However, in this case I think DJ Fly is extremely talented and has used technology to amplify his skills... Just my opinion. But I am a dj that has paid my dues and have been in the USA finals twice.
Man, really... for those are telling bad things right here... you maybe don't like the sounds, or you don't like the style, you prefer the style of DJs in 90's and 00's back in the days when DMC was spinning only in real vinyls... that's ok! BUT, you can NOT say that dude right here does not have a HUGE talent! His skills are very accurate and tight, no doubt! There is no only one way to be a real DJ.
Modern technology is good, but DMC contest should just stick to 2 turntables and a mixer, this is like cheating not having to manually take the records off and finding the cue points yourself...letting the laptop do half the work doesn't seem right.
I've been a dj and hip hop fan for 14 years. This is awesome! Serato is the future and allows dj's to progress the art higher and higher........no limitis!! If dj's don't embrace new ideas and technologies then the art form will become stagnant and die. If dj's had dismissed the scratch when G.W Theodore invented it, where would we be today? I do understand why a lot of the comments are dissing DVS but having used Serato myself it completely opens up what is possible and although it may look easy to the uneducated..... it certainly is not. If pioneers like Qbert, Mixmaster Mike, Jazzy Jeff, Africa Bambata etc....... are using it, what are you moaning about??
All my DJ friends all went the LapTop route and spin wack music like they do today. I still use real records and DJ old school Hip Hop. Yeah that's right I'm an old man! Yeah I still carry my crates yeah that's right I actually have to take the needle of the groove and switch records!! Yeah and I get crazy respect from people for that. :)
TheReIntegration Speaking for the young Dj-s, we are all fucked up our role models are EDM dj-s that don't do nothing but turn 2 knobs. Im grateful that my role models are the guys that started on vinyls and i want to be able to rock on vinyls BUT we must keep up with the tehnology. Dj-s like Fly are smart and they know what they need to do to go big, but still i bet he knows how to rock the vinyls the old school way with the stop watch bpm counting and everything ;)
Times are changing and this is the result. This guy is bringing the new styles and application of new technologies to the next level. Today no one goes around with tons of records but anyone goes with a laptop. So whats the problem? If you put a Mac between u and the music, you have to be honest and say "...ok !what can I do now to make my best with this?"...and this is the result. Fly, at the moment, is the best combination between technical skills and music production ability.
I had to stop my set in my second routine as a DJ who had previously used my setup had cellotaped up the power switches on my turntables and I didn't notice until I needed to use them. Indescribably frustrating, but that's how it goes sometimes... I appreciate the love and support but it was between Fly and Ritchie Ruftone on the day. Big up Fly for winning :)
To people who run DMC. Instead of posting vague facebook posts because you seemed to be insulted by some comments, take some time and actually read what people are saying. We as a turntablism community think we can do better to represent our art. I understand DMC is a business, and you choose to allow companies to influence the artform in a negative. But you have a choice to keep our art pure or not, you are responsible for it. Also instead of crying about what we say. LISTEN.
I think im going to be a dj like dj fly because all the videos that I watch from his channels is awesome thats why im going to be a dj now and im just 10 and I will learn fast dto do dj
The entire set seems pre-recorded and he's just flipping scratching between the two tables. He never even switches the tracks. How did someone who just hit play win?
Sounds like the shit you used to do but you didn't get any better since then. Back in the day this wouldn't even get you qualified for the DMC Worlds. You should also try listening to some hip hop before next year's event.
My only problem with this is he spent too much time loving himself instead of the decks.. the real DJ's the best DJ's don't perform like an gymnast or actor.. they are children of the beat and live it with no ego
Any DMC World champ could have won using vinyl too - because they are excellent DJs. You still need skills before you can use the tools and technology! Before Serato, they pressed customs. Before customs, they used battle records! DJs, since the beginning, have loved technology. Most Hip Hop DJ legends & former World champs use DVS. They still come from a time where they know about vinyl - including Fly. His set might not be to your musical taste, selection wise, but that's not because of DVS.
haha thanks man, I don't think it was the best or anything but I'm def happy with my performance, I think it is probably my personal best 6 minute but I guess people will have to judge for themselves!
I don’t see why anyone should be putting this routine down. I started turntablism back in 97’ and I commend djs for keeping up with tech to enhance their sets. Straight up vinyl is inefficient and needlessly expensive. Very clean set and well done. It was definitely fly.
his hand skills are truly excellent. some of the best I have seen. I used to do do a lot of scratch mixing during the old 80/90 old skool period. Always followed it today. However, have toa gree with some comments that production of a set is more simple and I think the competition is losing it. You have the fancy electronic gadgets today for the effects but not once did I see the dj pick up the needle and place back to another part of the vinyl. The sets are amazing but the skill element has gon
So I like a lot of you don't particularly enjoy this routine. However I do like Dj Fly and on skills he deserved the win. I'd love him to come back and win a third one using hip hop on vinyl and shut everybody up.
It isn't "Technics" DMC anymore (since 2011 or something) but "Rane" DMC. I think it answers the question (and the fact that almost every DMC DJ's are using the Rane 62 mixer). But Fly is a great DJ anyway !
Lots of people talking about the dead art of djing, not taping and stickering records, enter battles with no laptop and pure vinyl , no bullshit sampling station! That's what I plan to do, it's bull shit you can just produce a battle routine with all the bells and whistles in the perfect place and stand there all staunch like that, do it with originals! Fly still has skill, and not dissin any specific dj, it's just the scene these days
Whilst this clearly isn't simple by any stretch of the imagination (even though some people commenting here seem to think it is) - it's damn impressive in fact - it isn't anywhere close to the DMC Champions from a decade ago. Having to continuously move the cart to different points of the record, mixed with numerous vinyl changes throughout, the levels of difficulty and skill were far greater than in this set. Include the fact that the chances of the record skipping or jogging were so much higher before it was all digital and you can see the difference.
To be fair Jon had technical issues the day of and had to stop his set 2/3 of the way through. I think the judging was pretty fair, Fly was the only DJ to make every judge's top 3.
I love how everyone is expecting DMC to go back to 2005, but no one commenting here is going into DMC with real vinyl records to change the trends. Oh I know! its much easier to type hate on TH-cam than to go as far as learn skills, buy vinyl online, compose a routine worth watching and then win a regional then world battle. MUCH easier to shit on the guys that are actually trying. Way to support the sport guys.
DMC had to cater the battle to those who actually enter the battle - because if they don't keep entering, they wouldn't have a battle. I know the USA heads can be the most critical about DJ sets so I say, continue to encourage your favorite battle DJs and turntablists to enter. Battling is at the very essence of Hip Hop culture. Everyone who thinks they can do better than DJ Fly - 2014 is right around the corner!!!
Just before this era they were getting their own battle records cut, le jad produced and worked with loads of winning or near winning routines, fly won vinyl only in 08 on a pressed routine.. the intro on this set was like the end of 08 winning routine i think.. this dude is a beast, DMC doesn't say they cant use vinyl only or direct where the DJs go with their routines.. just the way it is guess.. i reckon the funk i gone but still couldn't beat these guys in a battle..
In terms of convenience, Serato is great. BUT, for me a good dj HAS TO HAVE that turntable and vinyl experience under his belt. Like Grandmaster Flash said at one point: "You have to earn to use Serato". Lots of kids today just buy a controller or mommy buys them a pair of cdj's and a year later they are on youtube calling themselves DJ's because they came up with a little 3 min routine. Really??? So what the fuck am I? I started in '85 learning how to mix with a cassette deck and a old ass turntable, then two different brand turntables with no pitch, then started doing odd jobs and summer jobs to finally save the money to buy a pair of 1200's and and a Numark mixer then started buying records, also spending money on dj pools...etc. Learned the art of studying those 12" single records like the palm of my hand. Intros, breakdowns, acapellas, percapellas, dub versions, instrumentals, edits, even the cover art of the records was special to me. Years later I became a respected local club DJ and my record collection was in the thousands. I was a really good DJ and I LOVED mixing live. Having that connection from the booth to the crowd was something special. Back then people actually danced, unlike most clubs today where the crowd is either having sex on the dance floor or just jumping like idiots. Then after watching my first DMC battle I got into Turntableism and I was decent, but the scratch dj movement in Puerto Rico was not like in the usa and overseas so I never competed. Anyways my point is...when I see DJ Jazzy Jef using Serato, he earned it. I don't mind seeing him with a laptop and a pair of timecoded vinyls or cd's. The same goes for Flash, Dj Premier, Roger Sanchez, Todd Terry, Kid Capri....and many other Dance music and Hiphop DJ's. Everybody is entitled to mix music and call themselves what they want but enough with the bullshit.
Jose Silva me personally I think that a "good dj" just needs to be "GOOD" to be a "good dj" i listen withmy ears not my eyes so i wont be able to start judging by brand or color scheme if what i hear is dope then hey its dope period if its wack then its wack there are so many wack djs . I bet cavemen would be pissed and bitter seeing a dude paint a train with aerosol in hours wen it would take the cavemen much longer lol
Jose Silva me personally I think that a "good dj" just needs to be "GOOD" to be a "good dj" i listen withmy ears not my eyes so i wont be able to start judging by brand or color scheme if what i hear is dope then hey its dope period if its wack then its wack there are so many wack djs . I bet cavemen would be pissed and bitter seeing a dude paint a train with aerosol in hours wen it would take the cavemen much longer lol
jeremy powell your ears? what a joke. so a "dj" shows up to a club with his controller and laptop, loads up his "dj" software, hits the SYNC button, starts blending tracks, doing "effects" also in SYNC mode....of course he's going to sound "good". So now he's a dj? you don''t know what you're talking about. Go home and listen to skrillex son
i was being a dumb ass lol i am sorry you had to deal with the troll that comes out in times of severe boredom ha ha ha. i had just read this quote "I don't make music for eyes. I make music for ears.".....Adele. honestly if you are just letting software do all the work I would rather just have this app be the dj www.secretdj.com/
+Jose Silva lots of kids today buy controllers because its what they were borned to and theres no problem with that. They have been seeing cdjs and controllers. You were borned in years where they used vynils. Thats why lots of kids buy controllers apart from many other reasons which i'm not going to say because they are so obvious.
I know many wish the battles were just 2 turntables, a mixer & vinyl - but as most of the best turntablists & battle DJs have embraced DVS - DMC had to change and embrace the technology. The best battle DJs weren't entering (or re-entering) UNTIL Serato was allowed! DJ Fly WON his FIRST DMC WORLD TITLE with all vinyl. Did he not pay his dues? In the USA, champs: Chris Karns (Vajra), Shiftee, Precision, I-Dee, etc. returned to the battle once Serato was permitted in the 6 min. classic battle.
I think this performance is just amazing and if it's a little bit record look the speed of his hands and how he uses faders and disc. Now you can't sayd it's a fake perf...
Nothing against Craze, I obviously love his sets, but I wish Dexta took it that year, his set was not as technical, but the sound was next level. The Jimi Hendrix of Vinyl baby.. hehe. Im Australian n probably quite biased on this one. lol
So you can just pre-build your set on to a recording, putting together all the elements from all the different places, setting it all up before hand? Then just scratch the record as the prebuilt set plays on? I thought part of the excitement of these things was watching the DJs pull out the individual records with their respective samples, beats, vocals and tracks and combining all of these elements live in front of your eyes! None of that is anything the DJs have to do anymore? It's all stripped down to simply how fast you can move the record back-and-forth under the needle, and how fast you can flick the crossfader? That got boring after the first 30 seconds. It was some beat juggling that wasn't very tight, and scratching that wasn't terribly tight either. You would think he would be better at that considering the fact that half of the skills seen in alder battles are no longer; ie working with a stack of records representing each element of your sets, marking records and working through it all. Hrmph.
Physically changing records takes next to no skill and is a minute part of old DMC sets... DJs are still performing transitions with DVS. This is a turntablism competition, not a 'how good you are at putting a record on a turntable and pressing play' contest....
djjon1st Well it kind of does. You have to be quick with the record changes and you have to be quick with the needle placement and you have to have a better hands when it comes to scratching because if the needle skips on a real record you're fucked - with Serato you can set it to skip protect - no matter where the need may jump, the recorded sample will start where you left off. It's a HUGE aid. You say it's a turntable competition - EXACTLY! So he should be using turntables in all the ways possible. Instead, the music is prerecorded and progresses on without him lifting a finger - literally and just scratches. That's it. I'm all for technology helping to push what we can do but in what I see here, it's actually taking away and I don't like it.
MagnumDB there's similar hazards in DVS, even if traditional skipping is no longer an issue. If your needle jumps, your cue marker on your records are no longer matched with the audio, so the markers are rendered useless, which can completely throw a DJ off- you have to recue and start from beginning again, whereas on vinyl you can recover much easier if the needle jumps. 'turntable' and 'turntablism' are two different things. as someone that has won a world dmc title I can assure you that the hard work and talent lies in the content of routines (juggle/scratch/drumming etc patterns) and things like cueing from stickers and skipping (from heavy hands) cease to be difficult after a few months of practice.
I never really liked this style , but there were some really sick spots in this routine and of course , Fly has a scratch game very few can fuck with . This was definitely deserving of a title !
If the real vinyl is dead, DMC too. There is no sense to keep it doing this championship if anyone can do anything with a vinyl controller. Thats not a talent, its a pre-session of turntablism without any merit.
Antes la gracia era buscarte tus vinilos, tener tu set bien preparado, con la colocación de las pegatinas, había mucha más innovación. Ahora sólo se trata de hacerte una mezcla con tus vinilos de control y como ya está todo en su sitio, el esfuerzo es mínimo. Se de lo que hablo porque llevo 8 años como Dj y he vito todos los campeonatos de la DMC entre muchísimos más de ámbito nacional de varios países, y la verdad desde que están los vinilos de control esto no es competición ni nada.
... people used to say turntablism was "just playing records" too ... and now purists are saying the same thing about their brethren? shameful and laughably ironic using a vinyl controller, you STILL have to be able to manipulate the turntable, the mixer, and the vinyl itself .. you just don't have to collect crates of records anymore, or change records while playing
Arukeru Mugen Zero Desde antes de Serato y Traktor los Dj preparaban sus propios vinilos, no era tan fácil como hacerlo ahora digitalmente, pero todos tenian sus vinilos hechos al medida. Las marcas (cue) en los equipos digitales es lo mismo que las pegatinas en los vinilos. Los mejores Qbert, Craze, Mix Master Mike, Jazzy Jeff, Angelo usan Serato y/o traktor por las facilidades que ofrecen, pero el software no hace nada por ti, el talento no viene con el software.
why you make the haters in this video , when netik won in 2006 it's pressed vinyle and if you want it's a pre session also he can pressed real vinyle with the same bank sound and he can make the same routine , you are not a turntablist you can't understund
Hey Guys/Girls, So I found myself here after watching Nostalgic stuff like Dexter in 2000. I still think this is talented, but in a different way. I'm looking for the best Vids where dudes are actually swapping records, and sampling different tracks together. Like i said, i enjoyed this guy mixing the same song together and scratching, but its not what I'm after. Throw me some Years ad DJ's please!! Peace.
Been out of action for a few years and I just ran thru the last 10 years DMC winners and for me this was the absolute best. Well done what an incredible talent.
I find it the most paradoxical and hypocritical thing that scratching enthusiasts can be technofobes. You would think that someone who's artform was so strongly rejected by the rest of the music community in it's early days, would be a little more accepting of technological progress and innovation. "Technology destroyed the DJ"? Ya, well it also created it. Young people wanting to diverge from traditional trends, growing old, and then fearing further progress... it is such a predictable pattern by now. This guy did not use technology as a crutch instead of a tool to elevate the art form, his performance was sick!!
It's not the technology, it's the fact that most of this routine is pre-recorded and "chase juggled" all the way through. Basically it's a push play routine with some scratches thrown in.
Tears Hears For Years, Hells Yeah
Just look at the dmc 2001 performances in comparison to this. Using the technology to elevate the art is by making the turntables into musical instruments that create a new song. This guy just played over different songs.
I agree and disagree. His set was set wasn’t the best. But I love technology and I’m sick of ‘old heads’ who are so stubborn. I saw two friends rocking serato One cutting up beats and the other cuttting vocals and changing things up on the fly. Woooooow! I was sold.
Yeah agreed. The tech created it and will redefine it. People like certain skill sets it seems and dont like it when others get a great performance with a little less difficulty (at times). Embrace the change or keep watching nostalgic Craze routines. Both are great options, just enjoy the talent. And my own 2 cents is that Dj Dexta 2000, was trying to achieve modern routines but way ahead of his time. IMHO his sets are amazing, but yeah, thats my preference, nothing more..
Very technical... Sounds great... I would definately pay to watch him do hid thing... #respect.
Dj fly, this very same guy, won the 2008 world final as well...on vinyl only...
everyone complaining about laptops and tech seems to be forgetting they could just watch the DMC SUPREMACY BATTLES, which are vinyl only, and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy this performance...
whether you didn't like the music choice or his approach or whatever your qualm maybe, you are free to never watch the showcase battle again and tune in solely to the supremacy battles for your love of vinyl only nostalgia...
Anyone out there kind of misses the old DMC'ing days? The pre-Serato days when you would actually have to flip / change the records? Back when you had to mark your cue on your records with white tape because you didn't have a computer screen to read ?
Don't get me wrong.. This video made my jaw drop...
I'm just saying... I miss the old days !
+D. Booey I miss those days too. i told someone that and I got a harsh reply
Selekta Mystique what did they say to you ?
I reminisced again.. Don't get me wrong, I think Serato is a great product. Definitely opens up new possibilities that weren't that accessible back in the old days like being able to play a custom track you just made or whatever. That was still an option back in the days, but it would cost you an arm and a leg to cut an acetate record. What Serato has done is do away with the need to go record shopping.. Flipping through crates of records, making a pile, and go listen to them all at the listening booth.. It was expensive as fuck, but I miss that experience... It's a shame this generation of DJs won't get to experience that..
Also! What Serato has also gotten rid of that I miss is the term "rare track".. Remember how back in the days, a rare track was still a thing? You'd have a copy of a sick track that is rare, so barely anyone else has it... And you almost become known as "That DJ who plays that dope track". You can find anything on the net now a days so nothing is rare.
**sigh**
@@DBooey don't worry buddy, rare tracks still exist.
They're just more rare.
(Megaupload got killed and A LOT of mid 2000s rap is now gone forever)
@@DBooey That is a good point, the rare track one, it gave DJ's a signature sound of sorts, no more IMO than Dexta 2000. And of course crate digging, sniff. What a joy to go digging with mates or alone. Tech created the DJ and tech will redefine the art. As long as we dont get Kim Kardashian winning off of a complete pre-recorded set. lol. Or would that be funny enough to be hilarious.. I honestly dont know. :)
Times and DMC have changed. I stopped buying DMC Championship videos in 2009. They should take the computer back out of the equation.
For you guys saying that he has limited skill and that digital dj's lack creativity. Did you see this guys scratching? Regardless of the whole midi thing, this was incredible. Great skill and creativity (James Bond theme kicked ass) I'm not the only one who thinks this, obviously the judges agreed to.
The Judges in the DMC are not DJs. One DJ and the rest are not DJs. That is why Craze won and not Akakabe back in the day. DJ Cash Money put him first place. Only DJs can judge the technical stuff. The average judge will like more what is musical rather than technical.
issam wavi You're saying Craze wasn't as technical as Akakabe?
issam wavi It sounds like you're saying DMC is less about how the music sounds and more about the technicalities behind the music.
Je viens de re-ecouter ca apres ton mix nouvel an 2021, ca dechire encore autant. Ca deboite. Never give up.
I own a Rane 62.. I use Serato for every set I do… I love Serato…That being said
I am not down with allowing Serato in the DMC Championships…
Where are the stickers all over the records? Where is the panic and rush to swap out records to get to the next track? The fear of a misplaced or jumping needle?
Watching the older Champions, they look like surgeons..laser focused
This dude looks more like he is playing at a club… Lip Syncing to the tracks, trying to hype the crowed…and not showing much skill.. at least the last DJ Izoh and Vajra used the computer aid to show even more skills on the tables….
….2013 must have been a slow year...
I completely agree!!
cool for a dance hall for people to groove to! but not a fuckin dj competition! anybody can do that shit know days! use real records to show real manipulation of a record! DMC SHOULD NEVER HAVE ALLOW THIS FAKE ASS PRE-MADE MIX SHIT! why even touch the dam turntable since you aint doin nuthin in the first place the mega mix is doin it all by itself!
i agree even that intro he put in the begginning didn't go with it
ozulu45 Serato killed the DMCs.
I just looked at the rules for DMC now with digital vinyl :
"There will be no restrictions on the DVS settings but no other devices/externals will be allowed for 2011. "
That means the vinyls can be set up to run relative…
correct me if i am wrong here… but to me that feels like you are not only pissing in the face of all the champions prior.. but shitting in their cereal as well..
I am not saying it doesn't take skill to be good using DVS, on the contrary, its just a different beast…DVS should have its place in DMC since digital is the current way of doing things, BUT I just feel DMC should split the "finals" into 2 categories, digital and analog… but instead of analog call it "classic"… and i would be more than content with the "new" DMC
I actually liked this it reminded me so much of c2c
For me, the routine of 2010's decade in the DMC.
Such a great set! It's unfortunate for anyone who doesn't understand how amazing this really is. The old school battles were dope too, but things have changed. Technology is a double edge sword and it can help or hurt a dj. However, in this case I think DJ Fly is extremely talented and has used technology to amplify his skills... Just my opinion. But I am a dj that has paid my dues and have been in the USA finals twice.
That's right!
DJFLY is one of the pioneers of new turntablism.
Of course, there are many other great pioneers out there. .
It's technically impressive but it sounds like total ass
Man, really... for those are telling bad things right here... you maybe don't like the sounds, or you don't like the style, you prefer the style of DJs in 90's and 00's back in the days when DMC was spinning only in real vinyls... that's ok! BUT, you can NOT say that dude right here does not have a HUGE talent! His skills are very accurate and tight, no doubt!
There is no only one way to be a real DJ.
Would that performance have beaten QBert or Mike though? No
Pre recorded garbage..and pushing buttons...
DMC should divide this competition into two fields. "Vinyl" and "Digital"
they do the battle for world supremecy is only vinyl and the world championship is serato
He won it using vinyl in 2007, dude. Makes no difference to him, you can dislike the sound of the routine, but you can't question his skills.
Modern technology is good, but DMC contest should just stick to 2 turntables and a mixer, this is like cheating not having to manually take the records off and finding the cue points yourself...letting the laptop do half the work doesn't seem right.
I'm not talking about another kind of battles. Since the beginning of the history of DMC the music selection has been very important.
DJ Fly you're not a human. You are Unbelievable!
The lyrics are from the Bboys flygirls by BomfunkMC's
Check him on IDA 2012 in Poland.. crazy!
im astonished everytime i see this performance.
Haters !
Why when it's dj varja who whin with serato at dmc world any personn say something negative
because he from usa ? or other things ?????
So, since obviously record-handling skills don't matter anymore to the Disco Mix Club, does this guy win a gold-plated laptop?>
ha! good one
He was fasting there on the beginning but once he settled in he went bonkers. This was damn clean.
I've been a dj and hip hop fan for 14 years. This is awesome! Serato is the future and allows dj's to progress the art higher and higher........no limitis!!
If dj's don't embrace new ideas and technologies then the art form will become stagnant and die. If dj's had dismissed the scratch when G.W Theodore invented it, where would we be today? I do understand why a lot of the comments are dissing DVS but having used Serato myself it completely opens up what is possible and although it may look easy to the uneducated..... it certainly is not.
If pioneers like Qbert, Mixmaster Mike, Jazzy Jeff, Africa Bambata etc....... are using it, what are you moaning about??
Dude got skills for sure....but this stuff is NOTHING like the old DMC days. Technology has killed the DJ/Turntablist.
100% agree, even though they are using vinyl as such its not true proper vinyl, I think technology has killed the real dj artform
Liam L Know what you mean, but at the end of the day it's still nothing but vinyl.
All my DJ friends all went the LapTop route and spin wack music like they do today. I still use real records and DJ old school Hip Hop. Yeah that's right I'm an old man! Yeah I still carry my crates yeah that's right I actually have to take the needle of the groove and switch records!! Yeah and I get crazy respect from people for that. :)
TheReIntegration Speaking for the young Dj-s, we are all fucked up our role models are EDM dj-s that don't do nothing but turn 2 knobs. Im grateful that my role models are the guys that started on vinyls and i want to be able to rock on vinyls BUT we must keep up with the tehnology. Dj-s like Fly are smart and they know what they need to do to go big, but still i bet he knows how to rock the vinyls the old school way with the stop watch bpm counting and everything ;)
TheReIntegration I guess you get respect because you play good music, not because you know how to mix with turntables.
+1 for the old school sound from dj s ..!!!!
Times are changing and this is the result. This guy is bringing the new styles and application of new technologies to the next level. Today no one goes around with tons of records but anyone goes with a laptop. So whats the problem? If you put a Mac between u and the music, you have to be honest and say "...ok !what can I do now to make my best with this?"...and this is the result. Fly, at the moment, is the best combination between technical skills and music production ability.
I had to stop my set in my second routine as a DJ who had previously used my setup had cellotaped up the power switches on my turntables and I didn't notice until I needed to use them. Indescribably frustrating, but that's how it goes sometimes... I appreciate the love and support but it was between Fly and Ritchie Ruftone on the day. Big up Fly for winning :)
Well you should check out the 3style battles.. there more about the music and song selection..
Agreed, it's pretty much a song chase for 6 mins with fast cuts and switches..
wow incredible
To people who run DMC. Instead of posting vague facebook posts because you seemed to be insulted by some comments, take some time and actually read what people are saying. We as a turntablism community think we can do better to represent our art. I understand DMC is a business, and you choose to allow companies to influence the artform in a negative. But you have a choice to keep our art pure or not, you are responsible for it. Also instead of crying about what we say. LISTEN.
I love the negative comments. You could never, ever, ever, ever come close to this period.
I think im going to be a dj like dj fly because all the videos that I watch from his channels is awesome thats why im going to be a dj now and im just 10 and I will learn fast dto do dj
DJ Aladdin - USA DMC Finals 89. No more questions, your honour.....
I kind of agree. So much pre-production thease days you cant even tell wtf the dj is doing, where the sounds actually come from, damn...
I haven't watched any DMC champs for about 10 years.
I feel a bit sick. What a load of complete shit.
The entire set seems pre-recorded and he's just flipping scratching between the two tables. He never even switches the tracks. How did someone who just hit play win?
Haha tell me you know nothing about disk jockeys without saying that precisely
PLEASE stop letting people use SERATO / TRAKTOR and laptops. Go back to where Dj's had to go crate diggin and use REAL VINYL!!!!
Where does that stop though. Do we make people stop using battle records?
Vekked u gotta clip this fly wings next year
:37-39 he moves the record and cuts the fader in and out yet i hear nothin from it? wth? hmmm
He's got skills no doubt. However this has really turned into a production competition.
Sounds like the shit you used to do but you didn't get any better since then. Back in the day this wouldn't even get you qualified for the DMC Worlds. You should also try listening to some hip hop before next year's event.
pretty sure it was only the end of his 2000 set that he used his own battle record... which ones were custom in 98 and 99?
My only problem with this is he spent too much time loving himself instead of the decks.. the real DJ's the best DJ's don't perform like an gymnast or actor.. they are children of the beat and live it with no ego
Prime cuts.
i dun know... its just good. Just like it. Why U guys dis this video?
Any DMC World champ could have won using vinyl too - because they are excellent DJs. You still need skills before you can use the tools and technology! Before Serato, they pressed customs. Before customs, they used battle records! DJs, since the beginning, have loved technology. Most Hip Hop DJ legends & former World champs use DVS. They still come from a time where they know about vinyl - including Fly. His set might not be to your musical taste, selection wise, but that's not because of DVS.
back in the good old days i had to put stickers on my vinyl for cue points and have to change records on the fly.. the good old days are dead.
at 2:36 i hear scratching but he is not touching anything...its on the rocky the funky beatz sample....??
haha thanks man, I don't think it was the best or anything but I'm def happy with my performance, I think it is probably my personal best 6 minute but I guess people will have to judge for themselves!
I don’t see why anyone should be putting this routine down. I started turntablism back in 97’ and I commend djs for keeping up with tech to enhance their sets. Straight up vinyl is inefficient and needlessly expensive. Very clean set and well done. It was definitely fly.
his hand skills are truly excellent. some of the best I have seen. I used to do do a lot of scratch mixing during the old 80/90 old skool period. Always followed it today. However, have toa gree with some comments that production of a set is more simple and I think the competition is losing it. You have the fancy electronic gadgets today for the effects but not once did I see the dj pick up the needle and place back to another part of the vinyl. The sets are amazing but the skill element has gon
D accord avec toi,,,,,,,,,, fan de vinyl,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hip hop 90..2000,,,,,,,,,,,,,,lahoucine,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Im confused should I like it or not like it it sounds good but
yea right, wat happened to record switching? dmc will never be same!
So I like a lot of you don't particularly enjoy this routine. However I do like Dj Fly and on skills he deserved the win. I'd love him to come back and win a third one using hip hop on vinyl and shut everybody up.
It isn't "Technics" DMC anymore (since 2011 or something) but "Rane" DMC. I think it answers the question (and the fact that almost every DMC DJ's are using the Rane 62 mixer). But Fly is a great DJ anyway !
Lots of people talking about the dead art of djing, not taping and stickering records, enter battles with no laptop and pure vinyl , no bullshit sampling station! That's what I plan to do, it's bull shit you can just produce a battle routine with all the bells and whistles in the perfect place and stand there all staunch like that, do it with originals! Fly still has skill, and not dissin any specific dj, it's just the scene these days
Whilst this clearly isn't simple by any stretch of the imagination (even though some people commenting here seem to think it is) - it's damn impressive in fact - it isn't anywhere close to the DMC Champions from a decade ago. Having to continuously move the cart to different points of the record, mixed with numerous vinyl changes throughout, the levels of difficulty and skill were far greater than in this set. Include the fact that the chances of the record skipping or jogging were so much higher before it was all digital and you can see the difference.
How about, returning champions are not allowed to use serato, cause I doubt they will ban it all together even tho it would be nice if they did.
i am ashamed of what the DMC has become. this competition means nothing anymore.
Felicidades para Dj Fly, una gran rutina..
I'm wondering if Le JAD helped with this...I hear he does a lot of the compositions for the France Dj's. Hmmmmmm?
I really should learn how to produce! Cool Set!
If people don't agree with the sets that are winning the dmcs then practice and enter and maybe then some things will change.
2013 world champion
People really asking here if "that's good??". No. That's not good. That's FANTASTIC!
what am I getting here? I'm confuse. Is this listenable? close the monitor and just play the sound and see how's party going?
and he won wawwwwwwwww
To be fair Jon had technical issues the day of and had to stop his set 2/3 of the way through. I think the judging was pretty fair, Fly was the only DJ to make every judge's top 3.
I love how everyone is expecting DMC to go back to 2005, but no one commenting here is going into DMC with real vinyl records to change the trends. Oh I know! its much easier to type hate on TH-cam than to go as far as learn skills, buy vinyl online, compose a routine worth watching and then win a regional then world battle. MUCH easier to shit on the guys that are actually trying. Way to support the sport guys.
The video has been accelerated?!?! kkkkkkkk
DMC had to cater the battle to those who actually enter the battle - because if they don't keep entering, they wouldn't have a battle. I know the USA heads can be the most critical about DJ sets so I say, continue to encourage your favorite battle DJs and turntablists to enter. Battling is at the very essence of Hip Hop culture. Everyone who thinks they can do better than DJ Fly - 2014 is right around the corner!!!
i seriously cant make it through the full routine, it's like watching bad kareoke.
I feel like this art form is more creative when DJs are forced to work with the constraints of vinyl.
Just before this era they were getting their own battle records cut, le jad produced and worked with loads of winning or near winning routines, fly won vinyl only in 08 on a pressed routine.. the intro on this set was like the end of 08 winning routine i think.. this dude is a beast, DMC doesn't say they cant use vinyl only or direct where the DJs go with their routines.. just the way it is guess.. i reckon the funk i gone but still couldn't beat these guys in a battle..
@@uziquattro1083 Anyone know where that "London Tooooown" sample is from?
le champions du monde 2013 de turntabulism est français!
voila la routine avec laquel il a gagner le DMC championships
In terms of convenience, Serato is great. BUT, for me a good dj HAS TO HAVE that turntable and vinyl experience under his belt. Like Grandmaster Flash said at one point: "You have to earn to use Serato". Lots of kids today just buy a controller or mommy buys them a pair of cdj's and a year later they are on youtube calling themselves DJ's because they came up with a little 3 min routine. Really??? So what the fuck am I? I started in '85 learning how to mix with a cassette deck and a old ass turntable, then two different brand turntables with no pitch, then started doing odd jobs and summer jobs to finally save the money to buy a pair of 1200's and and a Numark mixer then started buying records, also spending money on dj pools...etc. Learned the art of studying those 12" single records like the palm of my hand. Intros, breakdowns, acapellas, percapellas, dub versions, instrumentals, edits, even the cover art of the records was special to me. Years later I became a respected local club DJ and my record collection was in the thousands. I was a really good DJ and I LOVED mixing live. Having that connection from the booth to the crowd was something special. Back then people actually danced, unlike most clubs today where the crowd is either having sex on the dance floor or just jumping like idiots. Then after watching my first DMC battle I got into Turntableism and I was decent, but the scratch dj movement in Puerto Rico was not like in the usa and overseas so I never competed. Anyways my point is...when I see DJ Jazzy Jef using Serato, he earned it. I don't mind seeing him with a laptop and a pair of timecoded vinyls or cd's. The same goes for Flash, Dj Premier, Roger Sanchez, Todd Terry, Kid Capri....and many other Dance music and Hiphop DJ's. Everybody is entitled to mix music and call themselves what they want but enough with the bullshit.
Jose Silva me personally I think that a "good dj" just needs to be "GOOD" to be a "good dj" i listen withmy ears not my eyes so i wont be able to start judging by brand or color scheme if what i hear is dope then hey its dope period if its wack then its wack there are so many wack djs . I bet cavemen would be pissed and bitter seeing a dude paint a train with aerosol in hours wen it would take the cavemen much longer lol
Jose Silva me personally I think that a "good dj" just needs to be "GOOD" to be a "good dj" i listen withmy ears not my eyes so i wont be able to start judging by brand or color scheme if what i hear is dope then hey its dope period if its wack then its wack there are so many wack djs . I bet cavemen would be pissed and bitter seeing a dude paint a train with aerosol in hours wen it would take the cavemen much longer lol
jeremy powell your ears? what a joke. so a "dj" shows up to a club with his controller and laptop, loads up his "dj" software, hits the SYNC button, starts blending tracks, doing "effects" also in SYNC mode....of course he's going to sound "good". So now he's a dj? you don''t know what you're talking about. Go home and listen to skrillex son
i was being a dumb ass lol i am sorry you had to deal with the troll that comes out in times of severe boredom ha ha ha. i had just read this quote "I don't make music for eyes. I make music for ears.".....Adele. honestly if you are just letting software do all the work I would rather just have this app be the dj www.secretdj.com/
+Jose Silva lots of kids today buy controllers because its what they were borned to and theres no problem with that. They have been seeing cdjs and controllers. You were borned in years where they used vynils. Thats why lots of kids buy controllers apart from many other reasons which i'm not going to say because they are so obvious.
Looks pre-recorded to me.
I know many wish the battles were just 2 turntables, a mixer & vinyl - but as most of the best turntablists & battle DJs have embraced DVS - DMC had to change and embrace the technology. The best battle DJs weren't entering (or re-entering) UNTIL Serato was allowed! DJ Fly WON his FIRST DMC WORLD TITLE with all vinyl. Did he not pay his dues? In the USA, champs: Chris Karns (Vajra), Shiftee, Precision, I-Dee, etc. returned to the battle once Serato was permitted in the 6 min. classic battle.
Please bring back the old DMC days :'( All this digital crap just gets in the way of true skill
haha the ending says it all...............silence!
People were complaining about Izoh but at least Izoh backspun in his routine
Who is better or different in your
opinion?
respect to you djjon1st you definitely are a dope ass DJ and a humble one at that....respect!!! very inspiring
I think this performance is just amazing and if it's a little bit record look the speed of his hands and how he uses faders and disc. Now you can't sayd it's a fake perf...
I'm not hating on the others (who both have sublime skills), just that I think your set was the best on the night! Props though for the sportsmanship.
exactly what i'm thinking!
Craze in 2000...This is a real DMC Champ.
Nothing against Craze, I obviously love his sets, but I wish Dexta took it that year, his set was not as technical, but the sound was next level. The Jimi Hendrix of Vinyl baby.. hehe. Im Australian n probably quite biased on this one. lol
It wasn't Vekked... I know who it was but it wasn't done in malice, they just forgot to take apart their set up after finishing.
Fantastic!!!
What is the Song at 03:10?
pretty sure he has bits of Bully 1,2 & 3 in his routines over the 3 years
So you can just pre-build your set on to a recording, putting together all the elements from all the different places, setting it all up before hand? Then just scratch the record as the prebuilt set plays on?
I thought part of the excitement of these things was watching the DJs pull out the individual records with their respective samples, beats, vocals and tracks and combining all of these elements live in front of your eyes! None of that is anything the DJs have to do anymore? It's all stripped down to simply how fast you can move the record back-and-forth under the needle, and how fast you can flick the crossfader? That got boring after the first 30 seconds. It was some beat juggling that wasn't very tight, and scratching that wasn't terribly tight either.
You would think he would be better at that considering the fact that half of the skills seen in alder battles are no longer; ie working with a stack of records representing each element of your sets, marking records and working through it all.
Hrmph.
All good points, miss the record changes, much more difficult which showed a helluva lot more skill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Physically changing records takes next to no skill and is a minute part of old DMC sets... DJs are still performing transitions with DVS. This is a turntablism competition, not a 'how good you are at putting a record on a turntable and pressing play' contest....
djjon1st Well it kind of does. You have to be quick with the record changes and you have to be quick with the needle placement and you have to have a better hands when it comes to scratching because if the needle skips on a real record you're fucked - with Serato you can set it to skip protect - no matter where the need may jump, the recorded sample will start where you left off. It's a HUGE aid.
You say it's a turntable competition - EXACTLY! So he should be using turntables in all the ways possible. Instead, the music is prerecorded and progresses on without him lifting a finger - literally and just scratches. That's it.
I'm all for technology helping to push what we can do but in what I see here, it's actually taking away and I don't like it.
MagnumDB
there's similar hazards in DVS, even if traditional skipping is no longer an issue. If your needle jumps, your cue marker on your records are no longer matched with the audio, so the markers are rendered useless, which can completely throw a DJ off- you have to recue and start from beginning again, whereas on vinyl you can recover much easier if the needle jumps.
'turntable' and 'turntablism' are two different things.
as someone that has won a world dmc title I can assure you that the hard work and talent lies in the content of routines (juggle/scratch/drumming etc patterns) and things like cueing from stickers and skipping (from heavy hands) cease to be difficult after a few months of practice.
djjon1st laptop twat...
I never really liked this style , but there were some really sick spots in this routine and of course , Fly has a scratch game very few can fuck with . This was definitely deserving of a title !
Fly killed that routine....
juggle as you play or play as you juggle?
If the real vinyl is dead, DMC too. There is no sense to keep it doing this championship if anyone can do anything with a vinyl controller. Thats not a talent, its a pre-session of turntablism without any merit.
jajajajajaja pero que dices
Antes la gracia era buscarte tus vinilos, tener tu set bien preparado, con la colocación de las pegatinas, había mucha más innovación. Ahora sólo se trata de hacerte una mezcla con tus vinilos de control y como ya está todo en su sitio, el esfuerzo es mínimo. Se de lo que hablo porque llevo 8 años como Dj y he vito todos los campeonatos de la DMC entre muchísimos más de ámbito nacional de varios países, y la verdad desde que están los vinilos de control esto no es competición ni nada.
... people used to say turntablism was "just playing records" too ... and now purists are saying the same thing about their brethren?
shameful and laughably ironic
using a vinyl controller, you STILL have to be able to manipulate the turntable, the mixer, and the vinyl itself .. you just don't have to collect crates of records anymore, or change records while playing
Arukeru Mugen Zero
Desde antes de Serato y Traktor los Dj preparaban sus propios vinilos, no era tan fácil como hacerlo ahora digitalmente, pero todos tenian sus vinilos hechos al medida. Las marcas (cue) en los equipos digitales es lo mismo que las pegatinas en los vinilos.
Los mejores Qbert, Craze, Mix Master Mike, Jazzy Jeff, Angelo usan Serato y/o traktor por las facilidades que ofrecen, pero el software no hace nada por ti, el talento no viene con el software.
why you make the haters in this video , when netik won in 2006 it's pressed vinyle and if you want it's a pre session also
he can pressed real vinyle with the same bank sound and he can make the same routine , you are not a turntablist you can't understund
Can you do that then
beautiful
Hey Guys/Girls, So I found myself here after watching Nostalgic stuff like Dexter in 2000. I still think this is talented, but in a different way. I'm looking for the best Vids where dudes are actually swapping records, and sampling different tracks together. Like i said, i enjoyed this guy mixing the same song together and scratching, but its not what I'm after. Throw me some Years ad DJ's please!! Peace.
Amazing
Hi Dee Jay Pazzo,
You can simply watch how he goes here :
2007 : /watch?v=9LJVVqjDiX8
2008 : /watch?v=34axHP2-HZA (Winning Set)