They should have stuck with Washington State and Oregon State and merged with the mountain West, at least in all of the Olympic sports. Then probably played football as independents or join the ACC as football only.
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225Cal and Stanford are roughly the same distance from ACC schools as Washington and Oregon are to the Big 10 schools. Cal is closer to Georgia Tech than Washington is to Ohio State. Washington, Oregon, USC and UCLA are traveling to Rutgers. Literally coast to coast to join the Big 10. State College isnt much closer...... Or Maryland. What are their other options? Stay in the 2 team Pac "12" with Washington State and Oregon State? Fly basically the same distance to join the SEC or Big 10(neither of which wants them)? Or join the Big 12......... A joke of conference....... AND FLY to WEST VIRGINIA AND SOUTH FLORIDA......... Clearly you have not thought this through
As an ACC fan I dont like stanford and cal in the ACC. Their football programs are not good, they dont really bring anything to the conference and its going to be a big problem with the travel and everything. Cal is especially bad, no team, no fans, no money. Taking them makes the conference worse, not better. At this point its quite clear neither FSU/Clemson can leave so what was the point.
@@zackaryfernandez4561 that has been true for over a decade......... The Big "10" had 11 teams since the 90s. In 2011, Nebraska left the Big 12 for Big 10. This was followed by A&M and Missouri leaving for the SEC and Colorado leaving for Pac 12. In 2012 the Pac "12" had 13 teams, the Big "10" had 12 teams and the Big 12 was at 10 after adding 2 more schools. Following that the Big 10 went to 14 with Rutgers and Maryland. The names have never made sense.
@@tmzz3609Incorrect. Colorado and Utah joined the Pac 10 the same year and it changed it's name to the Pac 12. There were never 13 teams in the Pac 12. That conference had always changed it's name to match the number of teams in the conference. The only one to do it, I suppose...
I wish they would just make it 4 conferences and divide them by region. SEC could even keep their name. Big 10 becomes North East Conference, then you have North West and South West (which would include Hawaii). TV deals should be handled on a per game basis with networks bidding for games when the schedule is announced (plenty of time for planning coverage).
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College Football should be separated from the other sports. There's no reason to make all the non-revenue sports teams/athletes fly back and forth across the country all the time when there isn't any revenue upside. CFB should be reorganized into something akin to the NFL's divisions, or better yet, English Football with promotion/relegation based on performance. Let the other sports go back to the regional conferences that made so much sense before too much money got involved.
@@tylernelson3343 yea and schools that used to dominate who are stuck in the middle are going to want out and go to smaller conferences. One thing about college fanbases that used to be good in the past but not current day. they have huge egos. Ie. Nebraska
Doubt it. A four conference college league is what the money people have been pushing for a long time because it gives a playoff framework for determining national championship and will generate huge money.
They keep selling how this college football playoff is going to prevent the Florida State problem, but all thats really going to happen is another undefeated is going to get snubbed from the playoffs. They should just go back to regional conferences....
Im a Texas fan and I think us as well as most of these teams have seen that Mizzou has been a good example of how moving to a tougher conference can better your program.
With this super conferences, there is going to be less pride about conference champions, as well as more banter on which Bowl Series game is most valuable
This video did well to cover the aspects of a weirdly created athletic conferences alignments. I don't think I've seen a written article that delved into the subject as well as this video presentation has done. For the schools to switch allegiances to other athletic conferences make me wonder if it has diminished the power of the NCAA?
@@kyledabearsfan yes it will. However big ten is grabbing everything up, they already own all of the major media markets. They already have the biggest TV deal in history and in a couple years they will negotiate again for an even larger amount now that Oregon and Washington are in. They are a coast to coast conference which means their games can be broadcasted all day long. I mean it’s not even fair at this point I just don’t see the SEC competing for very long and they have no interest in expanding which will hurt them
@@lanxy2398 WE need more conferences than just those 2. It ensures us a better product overall. Once the Big Ten and SEC run out of competition,they will just start cutting as many corners as possible to maximize their profits and the products quality will fall. These smaller divisons arent all flashy but they are critical and i think we will lose out.
Nice content! Very informative in a succinct manner! I wish those schools would distribute some of those profits back into the schools to help lower tuition costs. I thought it funny how that one UCLA athlete did not realize the LA in UCLA stood for Los Angeles.
I really don’t know what to make of this realignment. Yes, these schools agreed to this over better tv deals. But I feel like conferences need to have regional relevance. I’m very saddened to see the collapse of the Pac-12. I did like the conference before they added Utah and Colorado and it was the Pac-10. Each school had a nearby rival, and I loved the rivalry within the conference as a whole. While the realignment will no doubt bring exciting matchups, I do have some concerns what this will do for the schools in terms of the amount of extra traveling they’ll have to do and if this will bring a lot of travel fatigue for these athletes. Especially for Cal and Stanford, who are the only teams on the west coast and will have to play all their away conference games traveling to the east coast, with the exception of The Big Game at the end of the season.
In terms of the Big 12 now being in all 4 US time zones, the answer is yes and no. Arizona is currently in the pacific time zone. However they don’t have daylight savings time. Therefore in the autumn and winter, when the rest of the country turns back the clock an hour between early November to early March, Arizona is in the Mountain time zone.
You missed that ESPN offered $30 million per school per year, but the presidents (led by Taylor Randall of Utah) told Kliavkoff to negotiate for $50 million. Based on reporting by John Canzano
It's always been like that bro. Tamu and mizzou moved to the SEC like a decade ago and I don't remember hearing the whole huff and puff about it compared to today. What they should've done was to see other options to try and stay in the Big 12 or move to other conferences for better long term deals. Same way with nebraska too.
nil has ruined everything, its all about money now, with the players included. takes the heart of football out of the game.. ncaa should be ashamed of themselves.
NCAA football should be divided into 6 divisions: North West, North Central, North West, South West, South Central, South East. Then it would be better for rivals and playoffs.
They are in all sports other than football, and although their football team doesn’t play in the conference they do have a strong “affiliation” and they schedule a lot of ACC schools.
@@emh5745 we're talking football not other sports, yes I know they play a guaranteed five games every year against ACC opponents. You're talking to a Fighting Irish fan... and I'll say again Notre Dame is not part of the ACC when it comes to football so including them in the ACC is not correct
If I could wave a magic wand, I would have one National College League with pro/reg format. There would be four regional conferences to keep regional travel more reasonable and maintain historic rivalries. Each conference would have three/four tiers and absorb the small conferences. Each region has four teams that go to National Championship playoffs (multiple ways that could be earned or as simple as top four in tier 1). Bowl games would determine promotion/relegation between tiers and give schools a chance to move up in competition vs. perennial power house in a small conference with little ability for growth. Never going to happen but I would even settle for a super computer simulation to see how it would play out.
Technically Nebraska and Colorado leaving big12 started it then texas am and mizzou departing for the sec was next then texas and oklahoma left. Nebraska left because of texas greed.
Only relevant college schools LSU Ohio State Texas Michigan Oregon USC Penn State Alabama Oklahoma Those schools are good at every sport year on year Also probably make good revenue
As an SEC fan, I don't know wtf were they thinking when they decided to let foreigners like mizzou, tamu, texas, and oklahoma to be in our conference even though none of them are not worthy to be in the SEC no matter how many heismans and championships they have 😂😆😝 It's plain and simple. They are all in the SEC for the money, not to be SEC worthy in the long run lmao. Tamu did a good job gimmicking johnny football on their own turf but it was all a fluke.
Conferences and media rights need to be real careful with the realignment effort! Any move is a threat by the fans to go nuclear by going to the United States Congress and asking for media rights revenues going to support the student loan crisis instead of the universities. This move would dismantle college football and the rest of college sports due to the unhappiness of the fans that don't have their schools participating at the highest levels. The problem with the consolidation of schools are the threat of fans not watching or caring about the sports any longer. If my teams did not belong, after being a fan of more than 50 years and playing the game, I would probably stop caring about the game!
@anthonyrodriguez2413 Not true Utah very underrated but beat Washington, USC n Oregon very frequently n won back to back Pac-12 Championship now everyone else not really BYU would've made a good add for Pac-12 but they didn't want to let them in
current conferences are stupid and the final stage of hyper capitalism before it collapses. make it all regional again, preserve those rivalry games, and split the revenue performance based among schools
I wouldn't called it a Balance Conference the Big-10 or SEC both overrated but Big-10 more so honestly USC, UCLA, Oregon n Washington join just wanted in because the money the Big-10 which i get it n the Pac-12 rep failed to secure a good deal as for Clemson n FSU they should definitely stay because even as they are its not worth it there not good enough to compete in the SEC n average wait a lil longer like 3 to 5yrs get right n Cal n Stanford really should've just stayed with Oregon St n Washington St would've been easier to rebuild although the Pac-12 had issues manly being on the Westcoast the other timezones going to sleep or getting home from going out so rating were down due to that n people believing it was a bad Conference even though last year proved it wasn't n if you watched it was pretty much that every year except a lot of phenomenal QB play but the Big-12 the ones that can get right n strike for a bigger deal due to them being perfectly placed in the middle of the Country.
🤔🏈 Which school will have the biggest impact in their new conference?
Utah.
That SEC $3 billion deal was ONLY to take over the CBS games. $300M/year for 10 years.
Utah for football
Stanford and Cal move to the ACC is the dumbest move for both conference and schools involved
Cal and Stanford will soon get tired of transcontinental travel. They will leave the ACC in a couple of years. If the ACC survives.
The amount of miles they will travel this year is definitely going to be a difficult adjustment
They should have stuck with Washington State and Oregon State and merged with the mountain West, at least in all of the Olympic sports. Then probably played football as independents or join the ACC as football only.
@@vernonsheldon-witter1225Cal and Stanford are roughly the same distance from ACC schools as Washington and Oregon are to the Big 10 schools.
Cal is closer to Georgia Tech than Washington is to Ohio State.
Washington, Oregon, USC and UCLA are traveling to Rutgers. Literally coast to coast to join the Big 10. State College isnt much closer...... Or Maryland.
What are their other options? Stay in the 2 team Pac "12" with Washington State and Oregon State? Fly basically the same distance to join the SEC or Big 10(neither of which wants them)? Or join the Big 12......... A joke of conference....... AND FLY to WEST VIRGINIA AND SOUTH FLORIDA.........
Clearly you have not thought this through
As an ACC fan I dont like stanford and cal in the ACC. Their football programs are not good, they dont really bring anything to the conference and its going to be a big problem with the travel and everything. Cal is especially bad, no team, no fans, no money. Taking them makes the conference worse, not better. At this point its quite clear neither FSU/Clemson can leave so what was the point.
The big 10 having more teams then the big 12 is wild 😂
Soon it will be 2 conferences and a bunch of divisions like the nfl
That's been the case for a while now
@@geoff1025 yea I barely pay attention I’ll be honest
@@zackaryfernandez4561 that has been true for over a decade.........
The Big "10" had 11 teams since the 90s.
In 2011, Nebraska left the Big 12 for Big 10. This was followed by A&M and Missouri leaving for the SEC and Colorado leaving for Pac 12.
In 2012 the Pac "12" had 13 teams, the Big "10" had 12 teams and the Big 12 was at 10 after adding 2 more schools.
Following that the Big 10 went to 14 with Rutgers and Maryland.
The names have never made sense.
@@tmzz3609Incorrect. Colorado and Utah joined the Pac 10 the same year and it changed it's name to the Pac 12. There were never 13 teams in the Pac 12. That conference had always changed it's name to match the number of teams in the conference. The only one to do it, I suppose...
I wish they would just make it 4 conferences and divide them by region. SEC could even keep their name. Big 10 becomes North East Conference, then you have North West and South West (which would include Hawaii). TV deals should be handled on a per game basis with networks bidding for games when the schedule is announced (plenty of time for planning coverage).
putting TV deals over the health of your athletes and in turn, the ability to win games, is top tier greed.
Thats the american way 🦅🦅🦅
facts
All about money, that is selling to the highest bidder. I prefer regional conferences (4) corresponding to the four time zones in the US.
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College Football should be separated from the other sports. There's no reason to make all the non-revenue sports teams/athletes fly back and forth across the country all the time when there isn't any revenue upside. CFB should be reorganized into something akin to the NFL's divisions, or better yet, English Football with promotion/relegation based on performance. Let the other sports go back to the regional conferences that made so much sense before too much money got involved.
The TV Money Greed Era
The ncaa should have managed this a little and imposed geographical boundaries. The ncaa tries to micromanage everything else.
The NCAA is pretty made up of college presidents. the college presidents control what happens. hell they still don't want an equitable playoff
The NCAA only focuses on "violations" directly involving athletes
@@crashlit that wouldn’t be violations, just drawing boundaries for conferences.
Bowl trip style flights for regular season games sounds just crazy. I truly wonder how this super conference experiment will work out.
that’s what i’m saying
No reason for the ACC to start expanding and those cali boys are gonna get real tired of traveling all the way out to the east coast
Got a feeling in a couple of years we’ll go back to smaller conferences or super league
What going to happen in the next several years when the money runs out.
@@tylernelson3343 yea and schools that used to dominate who are stuck in the middle are going to want out and go to smaller conferences. One thing about college fanbases that used to be good in the past but not current day. they have huge egos. Ie. Nebraska
@@dexterk7463 Nebraska used to have great teams in the 1990s
Doubt it. A four conference college league is what the money people have been pushing for a long time because it gives a playoff framework for determining national championship and will generate huge money.
They keep selling how this college football playoff is going to prevent the Florida State problem, but all thats really going to happen is another undefeated is going to get snubbed from the playoffs.
They should just go back to regional conferences....
We should name it the "The boundless Greed and fuck traditions Era"
Im a Texas fan and I think us as well as most of these teams have seen that Mizzou has been a good example of how moving to a tougher conference can better your program.
With this super conferences, there is going to be less pride about conference champions, as well as more banter on which Bowl Series game is most valuable
This video did well to cover the aspects of a weirdly created athletic conferences alignments. I don't think I've seen a written article that delved into the subject as well as this video presentation has done.
For the schools to switch allegiances to other athletic conferences make me wonder if it has diminished the power of the NCAA?
The first domino fell when UT pushed through the longhorn network causing the exit of A&M, Missouri, Nebraska, and Colorado from the Big 12.
to go even further, it started when the SEC started poaching from the SWC
"The Quad" should be the term used for the now Power-4 conferences, IMO.
Who’s here after the PAC 12 announced they’re bringing in 4 new teams?
PAC 12 could be making a comeback. The new schools they added are looking really good. Especially the addition of Gonzaga for basketball
I think we should call it the super conference era, as a warning. Eventually there will be only two, if that.
Big ten will soon separate itself from the rest with how much money it’s making
@@alexnowicki286 it will eventually just be the Big Ten and SEC
@@kyledabearsfan yes it will. However big ten is grabbing everything up, they already own all of the major media markets. They already have the biggest TV deal in history and in a couple years they will negotiate again for an even larger amount now that Oregon and Washington are in. They are a coast to coast conference which means their games can be broadcasted all day long. I mean it’s not even fair at this point I just don’t see the SEC competing for very long and they have no interest in expanding which will hurt them
@@kyledabearsfanAnd it should only be the Big Ten and SEC, don’t know why this nonsense with the ACC is even happening
@@lanxy2398 WE need more conferences than just those 2. It ensures us a better product overall. Once the Big Ten and SEC run out of competition,they will just start cutting as many corners as possible to maximize their profits and the products quality will fall. These smaller divisons arent all flashy but they are critical and i think we will lose out.
How does letting schools negotiate their own conferences make sense? Especially given the new CFP format?
Gotta blame Oklahoma for starting the trend
as always, it's all about money
ncaa should've managed this movements better and prioritize athlets heath. they're just kids
Nice content! Very informative in a succinct manner!
I wish those schools would distribute some of those profits back into the schools to help lower tuition costs.
I thought it funny how that one UCLA athlete did not realize the LA in UCLA stood for Los Angeles.
SMU is wild.. but when you have your own bread you do what you please.
Boosters 👀
Texas A&M should move to the ACC so they would be more competitive in football. They also could get 9 to 10 win seasons like Clemson.
SEC and Big 10 only schools competing for national championships fr. Top dawgs in the ACC looking weak rn
I really don’t know what to make of this realignment. Yes, these schools agreed to this over better tv deals. But I feel like conferences need to have regional relevance. I’m very saddened to see the collapse of the Pac-12. I did like the conference before they added Utah and Colorado and it was the Pac-10. Each school had a nearby rival, and I loved the rivalry within the conference as a whole.
While the realignment will no doubt bring exciting matchups, I do have some concerns what this will do for the schools in terms of the amount of extra traveling they’ll have to do and if this will bring a lot of travel fatigue for these athletes. Especially for Cal and Stanford, who are the only teams on the west coast and will have to play all their away conference games traveling to the east coast, with the exception of The Big Game at the end of the season.
Your graphic for the big12 teams swapped OU for OSU. 😂
explained so well. the business of college football
It’s not the super conference era until the P2 is complete. Once the ACC falls we will officially enter into the new era
In terms of the Big 12 now being in all 4 US time zones, the answer is yes and no. Arizona is currently in the pacific time zone. However they don’t have daylight savings time. Therefore in the autumn and winter, when the rest of the country turns back the clock an hour between early November to early March, Arizona is in the Mountain time zone.
Pac 12 and big sky Shud of combined....travel issues wud of been better for them...or mountain west/pac 12
You missed that ESPN offered $30 million per school per year, but the presidents (led by Taylor Randall of Utah) told Kliavkoff to negotiate for $50 million. Based on reporting by John Canzano
Very informative video.
Welcome to the new college football world whare realignment rules college sports 🤘🤘👍👍
It's always been like that bro. Tamu and mizzou moved to the SEC like a decade ago and I don't remember hearing the whole huff and puff about it compared to today. What they should've done was to see other options to try and stay in the Big 12 or move to other conferences for better long term deals. Same way with nebraska too.
@@RowdyJr I agree
nil has ruined everything, its all about money now, with the players included. takes the heart of football out of the game.. ncaa should be ashamed of themselves.
NCAA football should be divided into 6 divisions: North West, North Central, North West, South West, South Central, South East. Then it would be better for rivals and playoffs.
College football is a complete mess right now. The names of conferences don’t even make sense.
Notre Dame is not part of the ACC
They are in all sports other than football, and although their football team doesn’t play in the conference they do have a strong “affiliation” and they schedule a lot of ACC schools.
@@emh5745 we're talking football not other sports, yes I know they play a guaranteed five games every year against ACC opponents. You're talking to a Fighting Irish fan... and I'll say again Notre Dame is not part of the ACC when it comes to football so including them in the ACC is not correct
If I could wave a magic wand, I would have one National College League with pro/reg format. There would be four regional conferences to keep regional travel more reasonable and maintain historic rivalries. Each conference would have three/four tiers and absorb the small conferences. Each region has four teams that go to National Championship playoffs (multiple ways that could be earned or as simple as top four in tier 1). Bowl games would determine promotion/relegation between tiers and give schools a chance to move up in competition vs. perennial power house in a small conference with little ability for growth. Never going to happen but I would even settle for a super computer simulation to see how it would play out.
Should the players get the payment they deserve while playing in these institutions?
None of this matters if will end in a super conference.
Can't wait for Hawaii to join the Big East in all NCAA sports.
My favorite conference will always be the PAC
Whatever happened to the Big East??
they got poached by the ACC and they wanted to take focus away from football
Technically Nebraska and Colorado leaving big12 started it then texas am and mizzou departing for the sec was next then texas and oklahoma left. Nebraska left because of texas greed.
You can’t be taken seriously if you can’t get all the schools listed…. Jeesz.
They should at least change the conference names.
They need Wyoming University in the Big 12
As pac 12 fan....this year just seems ...meh! Sucks that the pac 12 is no more.
Acc is a dumpster fire
Oregon is the Big Ten tag-a-long.
Oregon is a top 5 winningest program of this century lol. If anything, the tag along is Washington, with a couple good seasons ever.
I guess Oklahoma State just doesn’t exist anymore
No ones asking for this and it’s ruing the sport
FSU and Clemson aren't going anywhere.
Oklahoma STATE is in the Big 12, not OU!!!! You goofed up on your graphic.
this wont last, because of the travel issue. i give it 20 years max.
Only relevant college schools
LSU
Ohio State
Texas
Michigan
Oregon
USC
Penn State
Alabama
Oklahoma
Those schools are good at every sport year on year
Also probably make good revenue
F the Big10 & SEC
As an SEC fan, I don't know wtf were they thinking when they decided to let foreigners like mizzou, tamu, texas, and oklahoma to be in our conference even though none of them are not worthy to be in the SEC no matter how many heismans and championships they have 😂😆😝 It's plain and simple. They are all in the SEC for the money, not to be SEC worthy in the long run lmao. Tamu did a good job gimmicking johnny football on their own turf but it was all a fluke.
@@RowdyJrforeigners 🥴
More like F Fox and ESPN. FUCK DISNEY.
Homeboy has never heard of the Southwest Conference before - or Vanderbilt lmao
All about greed!
the ACC is next to fall
Yeahhhh….ummmm….FSU and Clemson not doing themselves any favors right now
Big 12 refs have no place in a Big10 home game. Flags on every play the entire game for both teams. Needs to be fired and stop being a referee.
FSU needs to go Independent since they are hot buns lol
Conferences and media rights need to be real careful with the realignment effort! Any move is a threat by the fans to go nuclear by going to the United States Congress and asking for media rights revenues going to support the student loan crisis instead of the universities. This move would dismantle college football and the rest of college sports due to the unhappiness of the fans that don't have their schools participating at the highest levels. The problem with the consolidation of schools are the threat of fans not watching or caring about the sports any longer. If my teams did not belong, after being a fan of more than 50 years and playing the game, I would probably stop caring about the game!
ACC needs to go
💡💡💡
Overall the US is generally not known for its friendly climate behavior. This is just a small example… Absolute nonsense…
Why didn't you talk much on the big 12 😢
Because they didn’t add any powerhouses worth mentioning. 🤣
@anthonyrodriguez2413 Not true Utah very underrated but beat Washington, USC n Oregon very frequently n won back to back Pac-12 Championship now everyone else not really BYU would've made a good add for Pac-12 but they didn't want to let them in
@@mvpsportscenter6172 so a few good seasons doesn’t mean they are elite. 🤣 big 12 is not a respected conference anymore. No one cares about the big 12
One more thing not to care about ever again
current conferences are stupid and the final stage of hyper capitalism before it collapses. make it all regional again, preserve those rivalry games, and split the revenue performance based among schools
I wouldn't called it a Balance Conference the Big-10 or SEC both overrated but Big-10 more so honestly USC, UCLA, Oregon n Washington join just wanted in because the money the Big-10 which i get it n the Pac-12 rep failed to secure a good deal as for Clemson n FSU they should definitely stay because even as they are its not worth it there not good enough to compete in the SEC n average wait a lil longer like 3 to 5yrs get right n Cal n Stanford really should've just stayed with Oregon St n Washington St would've been easier to rebuild although the Pac-12 had issues manly being on the Westcoast the other timezones going to sleep or getting home from going out so rating were down due to that n people believing it was a bad Conference even though last year proved it wasn't n if you watched it was pretty much that every year except a lot of phenomenal QB play but the Big-12 the ones that can get right n strike for a bigger deal due to them being perfectly placed in the middle of the Country.