FYI, IDPA is now 15 rounds in Stock service pistol. You can also use comps in ESP and Carry optics as long as the comp is integrated into the gun, no screw on comps. The DRP is legal in both those divisions, stated by our state coordinator. I shoot my DRP in carry optics, My DR920L in Stock service and my Mr920 in CCP. Love em!
Whoa! I feel so uninformed! We’ll look into this. Obviously, you can tell how long it has been since I shot a match! Thank you for the correction! Trevor
@@bretwalley4673, the only rules I see in the book are below. I know at one time the rule specifically said "screw on or Pinned comps are not allowed" but I don't see a rule stating that screw on comps are allowed. But our AC says they rewrote the rule saying all it has to do is fit the box, so I guess it's kind of a grey area now... go figure. A.2.1.5 Firearms originally sold as compensated/ported models may be used in ESP with noncompensated/ported barrels installed. A.2.3.2 Compensated and ported barrels that are incorporated into the firearm
IDPA was created by Bill Wilson, after seeing the success of USPSA. He needed a place to sell his very expensive 1911s. Match and rules geared for single stacks. But still pretty good practice.
In my first local USPSA match IPSC world champion Luke Cao was in my squad. It was a humbling learning experience. I just did my best to watch & soak up as much knowledge as I could & not do anything stupid to get myself dq'd
@@jackwicker Yeah Glock and Eley from what I’ve seen. She’s a phenomenal shooter. After watching her Dad shoot it wasn’t hard to figure out where it came from.
In the Houston and surrounding area IDPA has almost gone away. It was very popular back in the pre-2020 days. No more. Very few clubs have IDPA matches. There are even a few clubs doing an Outlaw IDPA match to not have to deal with the IDPA membership. USPSA has taken over. It has become the King. There are plenty of matches. In this area. There are also a number of clubs putting on Steel Challenge and Multi-Gun matches. Personally I enjoy USPSA a lot more.
Great video thanks for explaining all this.. we have a private group that meets every Thursday and shoot IDPA style courses. Most fun you can have with your clothes on.
Are use the MR 920 and it performs very very well out of the box with a compensator. I use that for all my competitions and I usually rank from 2nd to 5th place on the last nine competitions now I cannot say that about the CR 920 is completely shit when it comes to Accracy as my back up gun
Once again asking for a steel framed or otherwise heavyweight DR920 :) The DR920 is awesome for Carry Optics, and it's without a doubt the best gun for it in its weight class, but it is a little on the light side lol.
I typically try to comment relevant to the video at hand however, i cant help but ask if there's any expected timeframe to see the cr920p in stock at places?
I used to shoot 3-4 times a year and was in squads with Master and Grand Master shooters. They knew I was good but not up to their class (D and C rated) Only sport that the best would stand next to you, offer advice and treat you like a peer with very few exceptions. Took 20 year break now looking to start up again
Actually I just started shooting in November. I shot my first competition in Jan with a s&w shield compact. I finished 12th out of 48 people. It was a practice round not an actual competition although you wouldn’t know it by the shooters.
If you shoot the MR920 in an IDPA match in CCP division where they check equipment and you want to use the Shadow Systems magwell that comes with the gun, you will need to file some material off to make it fit in the CCP box as it is too wide.
So you can use PCC in IDPA which goes against the concealed carrying concept? But you can’t use a CZ Shadow 2 pistol and who cares about weight if it’s concealed?
Large dots can cover the A zone at long distance. Small dots have enough settings to make it even too bright and large to use in the sun. If you are staring at your dot, you are doing it wrong. However at longer distance you may find longer confirmation required. Go small.
2 weeks ago I shit my 1st USPSA match my goal was to finish and not get DQ I ended up finishing middle of the pack in open class Going to shoot a Qualifier Friday
Scoring zones get more points. A zone is 5 pts per shot minor and major. C zone is 3 points minor, 4 points major. D zone is 1 point minor, 2 points major. Difference is due to the power factor being double what +p ammo is vs. factory level (125pf = minor), 145 pf is +p ammo, (165pf = major) NEVER USE MAJOR in a factory gun (most guns). It'll blow it up.
There was a time when it was friendly competition. No longer. It used to be for working class folks with LIMITED time for practice and occasional competition. Now you have to compete against people that have no responisibilities. They shoot 52 weekends a year, 3 times during the week, and in between sit at a reloading bench.
Crap!!! over here in south florida people are not friendly at all they start looking at you and talk to you once they find out you're a decent shooter!! these guys forgot to leave their ego at home
All the STUPID "rules and regs" in IDPA is exactly why I don't bother. Making different divisions is as easy as typing a few paragraphs.🙄 My EDC is generally a 356xl with a Wilson Combat grip module, red dot and holds 15+1. I have shot it in USPSA matches(mostly getting ready for the Sig EDC championship) and that little sucker runs like a sewing machine! If you carry a certain thing a certain way, why TF would you PRACTICE shooting any other way? Answer: YOU SHOULDN'T! It creates training scars and bad habits. My brother in law used to go to cowboy action matches. I took him to the range and when he drew his 1911 he was looking for the hammer with his left thumb every time out of HABIT.
I just started shootings my XL in CO. I use the 17’s as 15 rounders are discontinued and impossible to get in CA. I normally shoot an SP-01 production and the difference in split times is vast. Have your splits improved over time?
"Don't think you're going to the range against world class shooters your first time. These are just working guys out on the weekend to have fun". Me: Lives close to a range that trains and puts out world class shooters 😬
I have gone to a few matches to observe and learn a bit. Did not like what I saw. Too many people with WAY too much time on their hands. 40 years ago, or even 30 years ago, it was less of a "spend-as-much-money-as-humanly-possible" situation as it is now. You would win this month, and maybe I would win next month. Now it is the same five guys in places one through five every time. Kind of defeats the purpose. Your mileage may vary.
Same here. There are 4 GM’s at our club and a lot of Masters. It’s like having coaches all the time. They are generous with observations and shooting tips . I shoot from a rig and from concealment .
@@kagyu1 I hope that you can enjoy it. I wish I could. I know that it is not 1983 and President Reagan is no longer in the White House. I know the "shooting sports" have changed. Some good changes, some not so good. No one shooting production in USPSA or stock service pistol in IDPA where I am. All carry optics, pistol caliber carbines, and unaffordable "John Wick" guns. Best of luck to you.
@@julianmercier I shoot a CZ SP-01 in Production . My friend did the trigger job and installed the Cajun Gun Works/ CZ Custom parts. I also shoot a stock internals P-01 from appendix from concealment in every day clothes, my every day carry. I am a blue collar guy in the SF Area. Everyone seems to be in tech with 3-5k pistols. One of my favorite shooters shoots a stock Glock 26 and smokes a lot of people with more expensive guns. He consistently shoots a 6 plate rack from the draw in 3 seconds or less. I’ll never be able to afford a 2011 but I haven’t even mastered the pistols I have. It’s the Indian not the arrow. I love it , but it’s not my religion.
@@kagyu1 I have a out of the box CZ 75 B, a Beretta 92 FS, and a third generation Glock 17. Cannot get more plain than that. No trigger work, no work of any kind. Just do not have the time to practice and/or compete. Wish I did.
FYI, IDPA is now 15 rounds in Stock service pistol. You can also use comps in ESP and Carry optics as long as the comp is integrated into the gun, no screw on comps. The DRP is legal in both those divisions, stated by our state coordinator. I shoot my DRP in carry optics, My DR920L in Stock service and my Mr920 in CCP. Love em!
Whoa! I feel so uninformed! We’ll look into this. Obviously, you can tell how long it has been since I shot a match! Thank you for the correction! Trevor
And PF for CCP is now 105
Screw on comps are legal
@@bretwalley4673, the only rules I see in the book are below. I know at one time the rule specifically said "screw on or Pinned comps are not allowed" but I don't see a rule stating that screw on comps are allowed. But our AC says they rewrote the rule saying all it has to do is fit the box, so I guess it's kind of a grey area now... go figure.
A.2.1.5 Firearms originally sold as compensated/ported models may be used in ESP with noncompensated/ported barrels installed.
A.2.3.2 Compensated and ported barrels that are incorporated into the firearm
@@KMC_Shooting like I said, screw on comps are legal, as long as it fits the box and makes weight.
Shooting my first idpa match on Saturday. Thanks for the push.
IDPA was created by Bill Wilson, after seeing the success of USPSA. He needed a place to sell his very expensive 1911s. Match and rules geared for single stacks. But still pretty good practice.
Yup in short IDPA exist for UPSA GM's to show up and blow through the field and get trophies.
In my first local USPSA match IPSC world champion Luke Cao was in my squad. It was a humbling learning experience. I just did my best to watch & soak up as much knowledge as I could & not do anything stupid to get myself dq'd
Great video. Well done. Thank you guys. I hope you’ll all post when one of your guns wins in various competitions.
My first match I shot woth Morgan Leonhardt. No idea who she was at the time but it was a humbling experience to say the least
Morgan is super talented. She just got picked up by Team Glock as well!
@@jackwicker Yeah Glock and Eley from what I’ve seen. She’s a phenomenal shooter. After watching her Dad shoot it wasn’t hard to figure out where it came from.
Love this video. I was looking for what the difference was and this spells it out.
In the Houston and surrounding area IDPA has almost gone away. It was very popular back in the pre-2020 days. No more. Very few clubs have IDPA matches. There are even a few clubs doing an Outlaw IDPA match to not have to deal with the IDPA membership. USPSA has taken over. It has become the King. There are plenty of matches. In this area. There are also a number of clubs putting on Steel Challenge and Multi-Gun matches. Personally I enjoy USPSA a lot more.
You can now do ports and comps in CO in idpa as well.
Great video thanks for explaining all this.. we have a private group that meets every Thursday and shoot IDPA style courses. Most fun you can have with your clothes on.
USPSA has a Limited Optic provisional category now. I shot limited major and moving toward limited optic.
Are use the MR 920 and it performs very very well out of the box with a compensator. I use that for all my competitions and I usually rank from 2nd to 5th place on the last nine competitions now I cannot say that about the CR 920 is completely shit when it comes to Accracy as my back up gun
Amazing vid! Thank you! starting my competing journey Saturday:) very helpful!
IDPA SSP has a 15 round mag limit, not 10. Not sure if this is a rule change for 2024.
Once again asking for a steel framed or otherwise heavyweight DR920 :) The DR920 is awesome for Carry Optics, and it's without a doubt the best gun for it in its weight class, but it is a little on the light side lol.
Maybe they could work with Taylor Freelance or something to make a batch of brass backstraps
@@mattrognstad that would be awesome. BNB machining may be coming out with brass backstraps relatively soon.
I typically try to comment relevant to the video at hand however, i cant help but ask if there's any expected timeframe to see the cr920p in stock at places?
I used to shoot 3-4 times a year and was in squads with Master and Grand Master shooters. They knew I was good but not up to their class (D and C rated) Only sport that the best would stand next to you, offer advice and treat you like a peer with very few exceptions. Took 20 year break now looking to start up again
Any chance for a SS larger aluminium magwell ?
B.U.G. is six rounds max per mag, no +1, but you do get four mags.
Actually I just started shooting in November. I shot my first competition in Jan with a s&w shield compact. I finished 12th out of 48 people. It was a practice round not an actual competition although you wouldn’t know it by the shooters.
Maybe Quinn and Shadow Systems could offer classes on competitive shooting.😎✌️
Question, for carry optics, is there any advantage in shooting the dr920L vs the standard dr920?
This was very helpful!
Can’t wait to get my hands on one
If you shoot the MR920 in an IDPA match in CCP division where they check equipment and you want to use the Shadow Systems magwell that comes with the gun, you will need to file some material off to make it fit in the CCP box as it is too wide.
So you can use PCC in IDPA which goes against the concealed carrying concept? But you can’t use a CZ Shadow 2 pistol and who cares about weight if it’s concealed?
Are you guys working on new guns ? Got a MR920 and a CR920 a need something new. Love this guns.
Ssp idpa is now 15 rounds
What size dot do you guys recommend for CO?
@@septimiusseverus1154smaller dots do not get lost.
That's a training issue.
Large dots can cover the A zone at long distance. Small dots have enough settings to make it even too bright and large to use in the sun. If you are staring at your dot, you are doing it wrong. However at longer distance you may find longer confirmation required. Go small.
6 MOA is easier to pick up quickly for fast targets.
1 MOA for for precision at distance.
2.5 To 3.5 MOA would be a good mid ground in between.
Pretty good info.
2 weeks ago I shit my 1st USPSA match my goal was to finish and not get DQ I ended up finishing middle of the pack in open class
Going to shoot a Qualifier Friday
You "shit" a competition?
Dude, is there video?
Right on brother! Keep it up…Good luck on Friday
Whats the point of major during a match?
Scoring zones get more points. A zone is 5 pts per shot minor and major. C zone is 3 points minor, 4 points major. D zone is 1 point minor, 2 points major. Difference is due to the power factor being double what +p ammo is vs. factory level (125pf = minor), 145 pf is +p ammo, (165pf = major) NEVER USE MAJOR in a factory gun (most guns). It'll blow it up.
@kenwickes2497 ok so basically ur getting bonus points for controlling more recoil from a spicy round?
Yup. Single stack and Limited are also divisions you can shoot major in.@@dustinpribble1546
Testing everyone’s hearing protection.
IDPA Carry Optics from Canada DR920😎
SSP in IDPA has 15 round limit not 10
In the immortal internet commando words of Jocko: “you got smashed?!? Good!”
Stock service?
Every cop I've seen has an RMR mounted.
Me, I'm Karl with a K
There was a time when it was friendly competition. No longer. It used to be for working class folks with LIMITED time for practice and occasional competition. Now you have to compete against people that have no responisibilities. They shoot 52 weekends a year, 3 times during the week, and in between sit at a reloading bench.
dude, SSP has 15 rounds
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Crap!!! over here in south florida people are not friendly at all they start looking at you and talk to you once they find out you're a decent shooter!! these guys forgot to leave their ego at home
All the STUPID "rules and regs" in IDPA is exactly why I don't bother. Making different divisions is as easy as typing a few paragraphs.🙄 My EDC is generally a 356xl with a Wilson Combat grip module, red dot and holds 15+1. I have shot it in USPSA matches(mostly getting ready for the Sig EDC championship) and that little sucker runs like a sewing machine! If you carry a certain thing a certain way, why TF would you PRACTICE shooting any other way? Answer: YOU SHOULDN'T! It creates training scars and bad habits. My brother in law used to go to cowboy action matches. I took him to the range and when he drew his 1911 he was looking for the hammer with his left thumb every time out of HABIT.
I just started shootings my XL in CO. I use the 17’s as 15 rounders are discontinued and impossible to get in CA. I normally shoot an SP-01 production and the difference in split times is vast. Have your splits improved over time?
"Don't think you're going to the range against world class shooters your first time. These are just working guys out on the weekend to have fun".
Me: Lives close to a range that trains and puts out world class shooters 😬
I have gone to a few matches to observe and learn a bit. Did not like what I saw. Too many people with WAY too much time on their hands. 40 years ago, or even 30 years ago, it was less of a "spend-as-much-money-as-humanly-possible" situation as it is now. You would win this month, and maybe I would win next month. Now it is the same five guys in places one through five every time. Kind of defeats the purpose. Your mileage may vary.
Same here. There are 4 GM’s at our club and a lot of Masters. It’s like having coaches all the time. They are generous with observations and shooting tips . I shoot from a rig and from concealment .
@@kagyu1 I hope that you can enjoy it. I wish I could. I know that it is not 1983 and President Reagan is no longer in the White House. I know the "shooting sports" have changed. Some good changes, some not so good. No one shooting production in USPSA or stock service pistol in IDPA where I am. All carry optics, pistol caliber carbines, and unaffordable "John Wick" guns. Best of luck to you.
@@julianmercier I shoot a CZ SP-01 in Production . My friend did the trigger job and installed the Cajun Gun Works/ CZ Custom parts. I also shoot a stock internals P-01 from appendix from concealment in every day clothes, my every day carry. I am a blue collar guy in the SF Area. Everyone seems to be in tech with 3-5k pistols. One of my favorite shooters shoots a stock Glock 26 and smokes a lot of people with more expensive guns. He consistently shoots a 6 plate rack from the draw in 3 seconds or less. I’ll never be able to afford a 2011 but I haven’t even mastered the pistols I have. It’s the Indian not the arrow. I love it , but it’s not my religion.
@@kagyu1 I have a out of the box CZ 75 B, a Beretta 92 FS, and a third generation Glock 17. Cannot get more plain than that. No trigger work, no work of any kind. Just do not have the time to practice and/or compete. Wish I did.
Your guns are way overpriced
Idpa sucks. Uspsa doesn't. Joe welcome.
You suck