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- "Young Sheldon" raises some questions about it's forerunner. Welcome to MsMojo, and today we’re counting down our picks for the events, plot points, and character developments on “Young Sheldon” that made us question “The Big Bang Theory’s” Sheldon’s eidetic memory. Our countdown includes isn’t Billy Sparks meant to be mean?, why does Sheldon never mention Paige?, when did Mary & Sheldon’s relationship change?, and more! Which “Young Sheldon” moment had YOU questioning “The Big Bang Theory”? Let us know in the comments!
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How come Georgie lied to Leonard about everything?
I think that for Sheldon, it's easier to hate George Sr. and only think about the bad times before he dies than it is to be sad about his death.
Lets face it as most geniuses they are very intelligent but also very dumb in the more human interaction aspect, tending to be less tedered to the ground when lost in thoughts. Sheldon has alway been self absorbed, both versions. Young sheldon believed he could fix a refrigerator because he was a genius but couldn't. The voice over he does as he tells the story is not always accurate because it is his perception but we see the events as they truely are, for example his dad cheated on his mom was a misunderstanding in his mind only, it never happened because the woman with his dad was his mom in some cosplay. Sheldon tends to over react and be bitter over trivial things i.e tami. His so called friends aren't his friends because he doesn't consider them that. He doesn't understand others problems because he is too lost in his head to realise that they have problems which he doesn't understand in the first place. Like gorgie said, the don't tell him to protect him. Simply put sheldon lives his truth but that is not necessary what really happened as we have seen over the series, he believes what he says so it is true to him.
You know what life altering thing is with Mee-Maw? Maybe the death of George? Seeing her daughter Mary devastated by that. This is so much assuming things, I gonna put this channel on the do not recommend list.
i never like TBBT so i dont care
It’s because he’s narrating this show after he’s been married, has kids, has best friends, and reconnected with his siblings. Tbbh was showing the viewer Sheldon’s journey before the people in his life (mostly his relationship with Amy) helped him grow and develop lifelong relationships
That's how I interpreted it, too. He's looking back on his childhood and realizing more about how things actually were as opposed to how he thought they were.
Agree with both of these comments
What if his narration is actually a story he’s telling to his son Leonard? That would make a good twist for the series finale.
That’s a great view of it. I hadn’t thought of that, but I’m willing to go with this idea. Thank you!
This is actually an excellent theory, and I agree with you on the difference between the child Sheldon, the Sheldon that we become acquainted with over the course of the Big Bang theory, and then narrator Sheldon whose older and wiser - a family man that has a loving relationship with his wife and probably is in his mid to late 40s early 50s.
Despite his genius and eidetic memory, we can’t forget that Sheldon will always interpret things in his own unique way and how these things correlate/affect him.
Plus, I think another thing to take into consideration is that time after George Senior passes away and Sheldon is essentially by himself in college. Sheldon has never been good with dealing with his emotions and as a child it was his family that helped him with figuring out how to deal with a lot of that frustration and confusion… Now think about a Sheldon who is struggling to come to terms with the sudden passing of his father, doesn’t have as easily access to his family since he’s living on campus, and his family can’t visit as often due to just trying to figure out how to keep going emotionally and financially - Mary’s depression, Connie’s comforting her daughter and doing what she can, Missy’s most likely acting out, and Georgie’s got to balance his own grief while taking over the role of Man of the House and being a Daddy with the mother of his baby girl… that’s a Sheldon who has time to start emotionally withdrawing, developing some bad habits, and regressing socially.
My theory is that everything "Billy Sparks" did to him was actually Bobbie Sparks, but even Sheldon was unwilling to admit that he'd been tormented by a little girl.
Probably
that makes a lot of sense ngl, he's too proud lmao and too arrogant
bobbie kinda disappears
Good point
I take it as Sheldon isn't always emotionally understanding, and after his father went down hill do to his drinking and died, it may have caused him to repress something's until his brother stepped in and told him off. By the time he went to collage things probably changed for the worse too.
Also maybe it's cause of different writers not actually checking in on things with each other.
Also all but jorgie went down hill as well.
Well jorgie kinda but his was just two devorces wich in hindsight make sense. First ‘wife’ was a shotgun wedding (his insistence) and the second probably happened when he made it BIG so the marriage could not survive the shift
Sheldon completely closed off based on future statements. Dude ended up lying to himself and keeping himself down for almost 30 years because he didn’t want to face reality
His sister seemed to have lost some of that fire in her. She still has it but the passion isn’t the same and the drive just seems mute compared to her younger years.
His mom fell head first into hardcore religion. Wich ruined her.
And his grandmother fell to conservativism. My guess out of age or all her romantic relationships failing after the show.
Life hit them when the dad fell to his vices and died. it seems like jorgie was the only one able to take the hit. Probably because he had already been hit before with the child. He had the support. The rest don’t seem like they did.
@@kevind3974... Dya mean Georgie?
@@CloverPandaQ yes
@@kevind3974 But it is possible that Georgie has not been married as often as Sheldon claimed. If he lied about his father being violent, he would hesitate to lie about Georgie to make him look bad also.
As of the last episode George hasn't had a drinking problem.
One thing to remember is that narrator Sheldon is Sheldon years AFTER the Big Bang Theory ends and he has kids, and we see in the Big Bang Theory (mainly towards the last two seasons when the writers realized in the moment humor with Sheldon’s childhood wasn’t a good idea anymore since they had a new continuity to align with) that not everything Sheldon remembers about his childhood is as what he seemed to him. So narrator Sheldon has a more clear mind after going through his character development and growth throughout the Big Bang Theory
I like to think that the Young Sheldon series are the stories Sheldon tells his own children about his supposed childhood instead of what really happened.
nice point of view tbh
I think it's him telling his children etc after realising things only when he actually became a father. So all his comments in BBT are how he saw things then, but over time and changing circumstances he assessed his past seeing things from a different perspective and that is YS.
Sounds like How I Met Your Mother
@@hilarywitt perfect :)
Although now I’m wondering if it’s more talking to Biographer!
@@hilarywittvery observation and I feel like Sheldon's stories are like Ted's stories
I think it will come down to the trauma of losing his father caused Sheldon to conjure up a bad father in his memory as a way to deal with the pain.
I think because of his father's death maybe he acts brat in tbbt
@@ansariansari3190 He has been seen acting like a brat on Young Sheldon too tbh, except that it was more age-appropriate on Young Sheldon. He should've outgrown it by the time TBBT came around, which made it a lot more annoying.
I can see that being the case.
As someone who lost their father at 13, while yes I had friends but none of them were able to talk to me about what happened while he was sick or when he died. It took my best friend at the time another 15 years, it was the dawn of the internet took a while to find each other again, and losing her mother to cancer at 21 for her to realize that I had no one at that time in my life.
So you really can be surrounded by friends and still be completely alone.
One easy explanation
Sometimes a prequel can alternate things that happen in the regular show
and also it's a sitcom so it doesn't have to be all connected like dceu and mcu
True. .and the narrator is quite unreliable (no emotional intelligence) so the TBBT memories are based on his perception and the Young Sheldon includes the true situations from more perspectives.
BBT aired first, therefore it was up to YS to keep up the storyline not the other way around.
This doesn't make me question the big bang theory this makes me question the creators and writers of the show
The creators and writers of Young Sheldon, who haven't watched the original?
@@sullyb23511Chuck Lorre created and wrote on both TBBT and YS.
With how Paige's story is going, some people theorise something dark happens to her and Sheldon never meantions her due to this.
My thoughts exactly.
I figger what ever happened to Paige was so terrible Sheldon could not deal.
Like maybe a drug overdose. ( Sheldon thinking "If she was so smart maybe it could happen to me".)
On the other hand I don't remember Sheldon saying he was he was "untouched".
It could be that Him and Paige got busy and he blotted her from his mind.
She is smart enough to trick him, and has a crush on him.
Just my head canon and my 2 cents worth.
I don't think they will ever go for a dark path for kinda a kid's show.
Possible he had a crush on page but betraying an asexual person he could never mention her because it bought to many feelings. Or he had a chance with page but she moved on and found someone else at which point Sheldon decided he didn't want to go with a female partner but then obviously met Amy.
For the first point, I recall that Sheldon really didn't learn much from the book at all, and instead ended up looking at who took the book out, and trying to befriend them instead
Missy’s idea
For the number 1 spot, I have slightly dark (or maybe more accurate depressing) suggestion why he was so negative about his father: it is his strange way to cope with the loss he never actually accepted until he started to narrate his own young... We know Sheldon has a hard time with emotions, not in the slightest his own and if we think he has issues with dealing with sarcasm or sexual desire, how could he be expected to deal with such loss, at such a young age in anything but a convulted Sheldon way, only this time for a more saddening reason.
Because I think the truth is, for most part of TBBT, Sheldon, internally, is still not ready to let go of the man his father actually was and to protect himself from the hurt, he created an eloborate fantasy father that he didn't have to miss. By clinging to the negatives and adding some believable falsehoods, Sheldon has created an image for himself of a father he wouldn't have to miss. The father of his fantasy isn't a man he should mourn for, isn't someone he should grief over and he also didn't have to regret the times he should have been kinder to him. It is a fantasy that Sheldon Cooper just was more comfortable with. And we know that if Sheldon is more comfortable with something, it might as well be established truth and nothing but the truth for him.
It was only after seeing his fathers advice from beyond the grave near the end of TBBT, that forced him to reconsider and I believe that with Amy at his side, he finally had the strength to unwrap this narrative, cut fact from fiction and come to terms with the figure his father was. As surely flawed man, not nearly as brilliant as his genius son but in his heart a kind and loving dad to his children and this might also be the reason why Sheldon (other than his general ego, it is still Sheldon after all) narrates Young Sheldon to start with. To right his wrongs (though he would never call it that way) and present the actual story as it happens (off course, still from his biased view).
Again, this is pretty dark and really not a healthy way for the boy to deal with the loss of his father but with Sheldon, I see him to do this. If only to protect himself, something Amy, bless her heart, helped him to dismantle to allow himself to finally properly grief. As for Mary, she might not see eye-to-eye with Sheldon in matters related to God and she might not always understand him but she did love him and at this specific point, I think she knew perfectly what he was doing and why, and she couldn't bring herself to take that away from him. Because, never forget: in the end, his family was always protecting him. Especially from the things that were too heavy to put on his shoulders.
Wow, that’s deep, incredible insight, and the explanation totally makes sense given Sheldon’s character. That's now my head canon, thanks!
@@ColeAndPhoebeForeveragreed
A very well thought out theory and that is very believable in a way. I think either this or a similar and less sad version is that Sheldon may have a perfect memory but not a perfect understanding and interprets things wrong.
I can't even finish this list. Let's just realize that of course there are discrepancies since Big Bang Theory creating a prequel series in the last few years of its run will create plot holes that the shows earlier seasons should not be held accountable for in anyway. Big Bang Theory is actually the foundation... Young Sheldon might come first in the timeline but let's be honest, they are responsible for the confusion.
Bro they not.
A lot of this could be chalked up to Sheldon not actually having an eidetic memory (since it's not really a thing, especially in adults) and overtrusts a flawed, emotionally biased view of the past since he believes he remembers everything accurately.
Sheldon probably had his opinion of his father deeply influenced by his mother's opinion of him in the wake of an affair that seems to be the most salient memory for him.
I've also questioned his supposed eidetic memory. And he never did go to boarding school, as is mentioned in the video, but Sheldon claimed that he went to boarding school. So is his much bragged about memory really flawed, or does he simply lie?
But we see in ys that he just thought he cheated and then was never talked about the rest of the show nor does he do his knocking thing
Considering he had trouble with human social interactions he may have used his mother's perspective on his father
Yeah no. It’s because the writers of Young Sheldon didn’t stick to what was already established in the main series (TBBT). Jumping through hoops to try and excuse this in universe is just bizarre.
Eidetic memory is a thing.
Paige's not being mentioned in TBBT may be due to a tragedy: I believe the Paige character committed suicide in her late teens, and thus adult Sheldon really blocks out her existence. REALITY CHECK: Everyone should acknowledge that these two shows are about fictional characters, and "inconsistencies" in the timelines are nothing to lose sleep over. Regarding my comment about Paige, Mckenna Grace is alive and well (as far as I know).
There are MANY instances in YS that point to Paige's demise. Sheldon is oblivious to how he is different from his peers, and this is the source of the show's humor for his character. Paige is painfully aware of these differences, and it is sad to see her struggling with that (good acting!):
She blames herself for her parents divorce and is depressed about it; She says once she wished she wasnt smart, and longs to fit in; she engages in destructive behavior in getting drunk at a frat party and almost goes home with a much older boy; She says she has no friends in college and is quite sad about it; any others?
Good theory or Paige is actually Sheldon's daughter
That would be a good plot twist
I think Paige choose a career that Sheldon consider a treason, considering her capabilities, so to him and only to him she's dead.
8:08 when you don’t have real friends, you don’t really count the people who come and go in your youth as friends. How your relationships with others are versus how you expect friendships to be may be very different.. I believe that Sheldon did not perceive these people to be actual friends, because when he needed someone the most, he always found himself alone.
Good point. But Dr Sturgis was always there for him
So was Paige Billy Tam but he pushed them all away
He said himself that he didn't even want them in that part. Says a lot doesn't it?
For number one, I like to believe that it took till Sheldon became a father to look back and realize he did have a pretty good dad as it takes one to know one. It’s possible that because both of them shared different interests Sheldon looked at his dad in a bad light because of it. It’s also possible because of the three knocks incident that Sheldon always thought bad of his father because that left him traumatized and since Georgie didn’t show Sheldon the truth that the family was in shambles after that Sheldon always thought bad of his father.
4:39 if you’ve ever been bullied by someone, you’re not going to remember many other elements of their personality or other years you knew them. you’re going to remember what traumatized you or caused you emotional distress because that’s how memories work
Your brain stores information to protect you and remembers things to keep you from being exposed to people, or things that caused you harm in the past
By your logic he should have stayed away from Billy after he was bullied. But they seemed to hang out together.
@@cherishgp that’s not at all what I said. And it’s not my logic it’s basic psychology. Events that hurt you are the ones that you’re going to remember. Events that didn’t have any impact on you, your brain would have no reason to remember them.
What you have memories of and don’t have memories of doesn’t necessarily dictate your actions. Just because somebody bullied you doesn’t mean you’re not going to try to play nice with them and try to get along with them. Especially as a child.
I had a bully in elementary school. I remember when she slammed me up against the lockers, strangling my neck and threatening my life, and then punching the locker next to my head, just because I was a straight a student, and she was flunking the class, and she hated me for it.
I remember her name and I remember the event and where it happened and vaguely remember how old I was.
It’s been roughly 30 years since then, and when she tried to friend me on Facebook last year, I confronted her about it, and she claimed that I helped her out later that year, implying that I must have forgiven her and gotten over it. I have no memory of that. I only remember the trauma I felt that day.
@@cherishgpin young Sheldon he was actually never bullied by Billy his real only bullies were a little girl and billies chicken
The first thing to remember is that Sheldon has a very selective memory. He remembers only what serves him at the time and conveniently forgets later on. Either this or the Big Bang writers couldn't keep their writing straight. I spent the entire run of Big Bang dealing with multiple disconnects. Trying to match both series is a huge waste of time.
Actually is the other way around. The YS writters couldn't keep it straight. BBT came out YEARS b4 YS, so it was up to YS writers to keep up. Is hard to write a prequel when there's already established world building. I'll assume is even harder when if we go by exactly what Sheldon in BBT says, Sheldon's fam in YS wouldn't be likable characters. Specially his dad and Billy.
@@locabsgg94Sounds plausible but I watched all of TBBT and this was a pattern that occurred every time the writers room got new members. It really stands out if you watch the reruns in order and pay attention.
This is why prequels don't work unless you write the prequel first or stick to the facts or have throw away characters or make it it's own show having nothing to do with the other show
The true reason as to why Paige was never mentioned during The Big Bang Theory was because her character wasn't introduced until season two of Young Sheldon which aired during the final season of The Big Bang Theory. As a result, they never had time to introduce Paige properly as an adult like they did with Tam.
There are two options for the writers can do with Paige. They can either write it so that she has turned her life around in the end, or she died of suicide some how. The latter option, however, would be a huge mistake. The reason why is because we've seen success with a lot of classics like Rosanne and Frasier get rebooted, so I am willing to bet that The Big Bang Theory will do that sometime down the road, and when that happens, seeing an adult Paige come back into Sheldon's life would be a very interesting storyline.
I mean, does Sheldon really have to mention everyone he ever came into contact with? I have some pretty important people in my youth that I never bring up ever in my adulthood just because they've moved on with their lives and I have, too.
@@akaneriyun4774 No. He doesn't have to mention every single person he makes contact with, but he does have to do that with Paige. Of all the characters mentioned in Young Sheldon, Paige has the most intriguing of them all. They can't end this show without mentioning what happens to her. Otherwise, it would be the equivalent to how they ended Mom with one cliffhanger after another.
@@mitchellries256 Sheldon is known for blocking and distorting his own memories to deal with the pain. The reason why he never mentions of Paige is because something that happened after George's death . I think she commited suicide sometime in her late teens . She is already too depressed in late seasons. everything will lead her to that point. i think Sheldon had no choice but erase her from existence in his mind to deal with her loss after his dad died. He couldn't bare the double pain. That's how he is
Sheldon’s memories reflect his personality and are a reflection of who he thinks he is. They are his interactions of reality. This is true for all people. Our memories are reflections of our personal interpretation of reality.
Having an eidetic memory does not mean a person never forgets anything. It also doesnt mean a person is more intelligent than others or more socially awkward. It simply means that someone can recall(remember)information, after being shown it for 30 seconds or less, clearer than others can after a few minutes. People with "eidetic memory" like Sheldon & Dr. Reid from Criminal Minds don't really exist & even if they did, we don't know how to test for it so a person wouldn't be labeled as having it. Saying that a character has an eidetic memory is a popular way for writers to say someone is a genius but it really isn't something doctors can test or diagnose.
I have a good memory, and sometimes I want to get rid of it
Honestly I never really got into the Big Bang Theory, but I adore Young Sheldon I just see them as different stories tbh lol
I respect that and thats okay and nice. but you are missing something and appreciate more young sheldon if you watch tbbt .young sheldon is like the answers to our questions why adult sheldon is behaving like that :D
Yeah, I was only able to watch 3 seasons and could not do more. It's entertainging but it was to much non sense sometimes. I agree, Young Sheldon was way better.
I think it’s because memories are based on our point of view and sometimes the way we look at things is not the way things actually happened as if there’s an emotional cloud covering it.
From my own experience I can say that with time, perspectives change. Sometimes trauma from pain or even guilt forces us to alter the memories as a part of our defence mechanism. But with healing we begin to see the real picture or interpret it in a different way. Perspectives are not to be confused with the truth!
Outside just different writers- when you analyze Sheldon's character, this is possibly why he views his father negatively in TBBT. It's the people he dislikes most that are the one's he never talks about- hence why he never brought up people like Tam (and possibly Paige) until someone else found out about them. But with somebody like his father, that's not something you can avoid discussing especially around those who care about you most. So it's possible after George died, Sheldon chose only to remember the bad parts/ negative aspects of his father in order deal with the trauma he most likely had from losing someone he had a close emotional attachment to. It was only after he found lifelong friends, true love, and having a family of his own, could he finally address these feelings and talk about his father in a positive manner again.
It's possible because of grief sheldon clung more to negative memories of his dad because the positive ones were to painful.
Probably if they made Young Sheldon how the older Sheldon depicted it then it would be a more depressing show.
Then it should be it's own separate show
Has anyone realized that Sheldon’s dad was in the episode as Leonard bully from high school?
1:33 no. You definitely wouldn’t think he would remember a book. He read when he was a child. he’s read a lot of books since then, and is storing information he actually cares about. That’s not information he actually cares about.
That "aluminum house" sounds like a double wide mobile home with the wheels off and then put on cinder blocks as a foundation, it isn't a two-story, or even a ranch style, stick built house.
i personally believe sheldon is actually the antagonist of the show
5:23 you understand that it’s a TV show, right? Things aren’t going to perfectly align or add up because they have to keep plot and interest and continuity does not overrule plot and interest.
IT'S A TV SHOW! I love both shows and don't care if they aren't perfectly aligned - possibly the true origin of Super Asymmetry?!
"Why does Sheldon have such bad memories of his father"? Happy wednesday afternoon, Jen. Take care and God bless you, greetings from Colombia to you as well.
Biggest issue was that TBBT sheldon was bearly functioning person, devoid of any social skills. YS has plenty of social interactions, social education and proper upbringing. Definately not the same person. It took him years in TBBT to develop any kind of emphaty and read social queues. It is implied that he got along in his childhood through strict rules alone, not proper social education shown in YS.
The best answer I have about him never mentioning Paige is because she was smarter than him. 😅
In regards to Mary and Sheldon. George took over things as Sheldon moved after his Dad died. George says in BB that Mary was falling a part. He had to keep things together for everyone and Sheldon never noticed. We know this happens right around when George is supposed to or has gotten married too.
If the idea is that the final episode of Young Sheldon is going to feature Jim Parsons on screen and finding out that he's telling his story like How I Met Your Mother is true, maybe he does a what happened to, Paige, Sturgis, Linkletter...etc and fills in the plot holes
God I hope so
After the completion of Young Sheldon, I would like to see Georgie in his maturity phase, how after his father's death, he takes care of everything and becomes the Breadearner of the Cooper family.
I would love to see that too. I mean, he stated he did it himself in Sheldon's absence. Hopefully they can show that in Georgie and Mandy's First Marriage if CBS decides to make the right choice.
Were getting a Young Georgie Show!!! Not something I can say I wanted, but im not ready to say bye to the Sheldonverse.
huh?
@@CubeCumber682 what part are you having trouble with?
I feel the same way
@@ChristopherBingham-xx8xl i watch big bang every day though its because Amy Farrah Fowler. I feel weird if i miss it.
@@wiccanroo6686 There's Young Georgie?
cool
5:41 I definitely noticed this.
The answer to all these questions is that Big Bang Theory came before Young Sheldon and not the other way around.
Yeah, and I wonder since Sheldon was unreliable and tended to lie and highly over-exaggerate about his childhood, maybe this was his way of telling the full truth?
My theory is since we see Billy's sister bully him, maybe Sheldon attributes her actions to Billy instead of saying he had a girl bully
I always took it, that the narrator of Young Sheldon was the Sheldon from a few years down the line after the end of BBT. His life, with Amy, having his own children may have given him some insight that he didn’t have at the time BBT was taking place.
I never really got into TBBT, but on the advice of friends, my wife and I binged Young Sheldon E2E. I loved the show, it reminded me of a time in my life that I spent in SE Texas in the lare seventies. IMO it perfectly captures the look and feel of that time in that place, like no other. So on that, it's a potent nostalgia trip for me.
But it's the characters that I've come to love. I swear, George Sr, MeeMaw, and Georgie are all characters that could be directly drawn from people that I knew at the time. The Coopers really do represent the Heart of Texas, the spirit and soul of that part of the state. Truly characters and people that I've have the warmest memories of and have come to love over time. They are the Best of Texans - people that are genuine, warm and loving, generous, a bit mischievous and rule bending when it is appropriate, and both independent by nature and loyal as they come. I've been and lived all over the US, and to me, Texas has some of the very best, and the very worst, citizens of this country. The Coopers are the best! The show reminds me that the rest of the country needs Texas, and Texas needs the rest of us (OK, well most of us). I wish that everyone would realize this need, symbiosis, and relationship. We'd all be stronger for it.
I think most of these can be explained in one of two ways:
1) Adult Sheldon narrates Young Sheldon after almost all (if not all) the events of TBBT have concluded, and thus his perspectives (and, relatedly, his preferred ways of telling or withholding details of his own past) have probably changed… it also occurs to me that differences in character and/or relationship dynamics could be explained simply by noting that Young Sheldon is, in fact, Sheldon’s own account (from his perspective at a time following the events of TBBT) of his childhood and youth…
2) let’s face it, some degree of retconning was probably inevitable to translate Sheldon’s backstory (even if only from adult Sheldon’s own perspective) from off-screen anecdotes to on-screen story.
It’s okay, not all sequels or prequels are perfect.
Even The Hobbit is not great as The Lord of The Rings,
but I do prefer Young Sheldon than Big Bang Theory.
I just take it that:
1. Big Bang Theory as the first series need a character development as any other tv series, so they will make a dramatic family background to emphasize his adult friendship and point of view of his family.
2. Young Sheldon is self centered and haven’t really get grown up reality check. At finale episode of Young Sheldon, he finally realizes how great his family especially his dad.
There was one time in the beginning of TBBT season one that Sheldon doesn't knock three times on Penny's door, I never noticed it until watching Young Sheldon and then going back and watching TBBT
Don't forget that although Sheldon has an eidetic memory, he struggles when interacting with others and his perception of relationships is continuously developing throughout both series. His memoir will be accurate in terms of conversations with others but his perception of those conversations/relationships are skewed. Genius comes at a price. ♥
For some reason Sheldon’s small heartfelt narratives about his dad always made me tear up 🥺
A sign of understanding his pain maybe?
There are a few continuity problems.
In Big Bang, Missy says "we had a dog that made a sound like that, had to put him down." In Young Sheldon, the Coopers never had a dog.
In Big Bang, Sheldon says he came back from Germany because the house blew off the cinder blocks, implying that their house was a trailer. In Young Sheldon, the house is a ranch style single family home.
In Big Bang, Sheldon says he knocks 3 times because he caught his dad cheating on his mom. In Young Sheldon, that never happened and Sheldon starts doing the triple knocking thing with no explanation in season 7.
In Big Bang, Sheldon says Billy Sparks bullied him. In Young Sheldon, Billy is only bully-ish in the 1st episode, then his little sister becomes Sheldon's bully.
In Big Bang, Sheldon is upset that Tam didn't move to California with him. In Young Sheldon, it was never even brought up when Sheldon told Tam he was moving.
There's a bunch of others I can't remember right now.
Mary and Sheldon returned together from Germany. Mary did not rush back earlier due to the tornado. Plus the tornado destroyed meemaw’s home. The Cooper family home was safe.
Absolutely 💯
Well, in Young Sheldon, inspite his beloved relationship with his mother and meemaw, it is clearly established that Sheldon looked up to his father for many things and idolised him. So, we can assume that after the tragic death of George Cooper Sr. , Sheldon started having negative perspective towards everything, even his Father.
None of the "friends" he had in childhood were actual friends who would help me through grief, like Howard's friend's circle. And you do realise that the "Young Sheldon" was cast after TBBT, so of course he couldn't mention Paige or professors, they didn't exist until "Young Sheldon".
As for George, we can see through YS that from Sheldon's point of view where he was incredibly selfish and self-centred he saw all his family in a negative way. It took him 12 seasons of TBBT to finally become an adult.
@11:50 Sheldon narrates the prequel AFTER he became a parent himself (he mentions his son at some point).
That’s why he is more understanding of his own father then, but not in TBBT.
Having kids completely changes the perspective on your own upbringing.
As a mother of a 31 year old son who has ADHD herself, and has a son who was diagnosed with both ADHD and Asperger's Syndrome, I always thought that Sheldon was "on the spectrum". I ended up only having one child due to my son's high level of needs, as well as my divorce and subsequent stint as a single parent, which began when my son was less than four years old. I understand Mary's "helicopter parenting" in a sympathetic way. I think that Mary saw how different and special Sheldon was, and worried about his ability to get along with others as an adult. While many see Mary's need to help Sheldon navigate his way through life as obsessive, I think it helped to set him up for success as a very gifted scientist who was able to live independently and attend graduate school halfway across the country at the age of 15 or 16. Unfortunately, Mary's over focusing on Sheldon left her other two children and her husband often feeling neglected. This was sad, but I think she was just a normal Neurotypical Mom who did her best to parent Sheldon, a very gifted and Neuro Diverse little boy who grew up to be a very successful young man and adult.
I think that Sheldon's high level of giftedness helped him to succeed in life, even as it also further separated him from the rest of his family and "peers". (This was further reflected in Sheldon's feelings that he truly has no peers.) In turn, Sheldon never felt like anyone in his early life (except maybe his mom and Meemaw) truly understood him, leading to family tension later in life.
I love the character Sheldon, and was so glad that they made "Young Sheldon". It really helped me to understand my son better. I'm going to miss this lovely show.
SPOILER ALERT: BTW, I think that YS revealed in Season 7 that George did not actually have an affair on Mary. ❤ He did have a flirtation with the next door neighbor, but he backed away from that just in time to avoid a physical affair. The "incident" that Sheldon walked in on, that he thought was his dad cheating on his mother, was actually a "spicy" encounter between his parents after they spent a sumner apart. Mary and Sheldon had just returned from Germany, when Mary broke out with a German "costume" including a wig which she modelled for a very happy George. This costume lead to sexy interlude between George and Mary, which Sheldon interrupted when he burst into their bedroom without knocking. Sheldon saw his dad with a blonde woman, messing around in his parent's bedroom. He didn't recognize his mom and thought his dad was having an affair. (This episode also explained Sheldon's habit of always knocking three times before entering a room. In Season 7, Sheldon explained that he always wanted to give people time time to "put their pants back on" after this very upsetting incident.) The fact that Sheldon and his father never discussed this incident actually cemented Sheldon's belief that his dad cheated on his mom. This was very sad to me, as it colored his lifelong feelings about his dad, who passed away shortly after this incident. To me, his is just another of Sheldon's "misunderstandings" that lead me to believe that he is on the spectrum.
After watching the end of Season 7 we see that Sheldon moved to California right after his dad died, leaving all of his friends back in Texas. Perhaps "TBBT Sheldon" was referring to the fact that had a lot more trouble making friends in CA, as a 15 year old graduate student living away from home and his extensive support system, so soon after his dad passed away. This would make a lot of sense to me, as most teenagers would have had trouble adjusting to this level of stress and adversity at that young age.
I think the billy sparks thing is from Sheldon's point of view and what he thinks of him
Calling it…Georges death will be one of the saddest in television sitcom history
It’s canon!! Simple. Even the creators said so.
or perhaps its a fictional character and one was written years before the other and they forgot various plot points....
He's mother relationship fall apart because he left to cali and didn't stay in his town. That was a pretty easy one. Life got in the way and they both moved on and it's pretty hard when you don't see each other, every single time. During young sheldon. They literally spent every single days together. During the Big Bang. They only saw or spoke with each other every other weeks or months. That was a pretty easy one.
just simple, Young Sheldon happens in alternative universe than TBBT
Somebody time travelled and altered the past. Like so many times in Star Trek. 😁
What if a lot of the faults he and Mary attributed to his dad on TBBT were actually a mix of Georgie and Missy trying to cope after George died, and the way Sheldon coped with them changing was to blame it on all on him?
Again, I found what Sheldon said about his father in the video's final seconds to be really sweet.
The constant, massive contradictions between these shows makes me question so much.
Normally I’d say it’s possible Sheldon doesn’t tell the story correctly because he wants us to feel bad for him, but I’d be lying. He has no idea that his actions can affect other people. In fact it took till the final episode of The Big Bang Theory to realize that. Thankfully he still has his group of friends, but because of how little he really cares about others I can honestly see why a lot of people drifted away from him
He absolutely knows that what he does affects other people. Too many examples to numerate them all but he knew his criminal blackmail of Priya would force Leonard to sign a new roommate agreement. He inadvertently disclosed a plot point in the Harry Potter book Leonard was reading, but when Leonard scolded him on it, he deliberately ruined the next book plot as well. He stole the reel of film when he couldn't get into the theater to see the Indiana Jones remake, which made sure no one else could see it. He deliberately got Amy taken off her research project so she could work with him. He deliberately insulted Howard in an effort to make him feel bad about his career as an engineer. He didn't give Leonard credit when they co-authored a paper and then when Leonard was giving a talk on it, he invaded the discussion to try to make Leonard look incompetent. All of those examples were deliberate. He knew what the reaction of the people would be.
To be honest I know Sheldon doesn't know how to make friends but he tries to understand I mean come Sheldon can be a little bit naive but he's also a human being and very smart talented 👈. To me Sheldon and his mother had a really good relationship like mother to son and also there was that moment Sheldon and his dad flying on the plane and Sheldon was afraid his father and he always tell them he brought that up Star Trek that Captain Kirk and Mr Spock we're never afraid so that was kind of like a touching moment between him and his father 👏 what is kind of sad the most that when Sheldon brought that up he never gets to tell his dad how much he meant to him a lot he makes a lot of mistakes and loves him very much to me I really enjoyed the Big bang theory when the prequel young Sheldon came out I was like I'll give it a try and I started to love it ❤️💯
I guess he remembered it definitely much like the whole friendship thing 4:07 or just forgot
Well sheldon does say he didn’t have any friends to help him get through his fathers death. Perhaps by the time his father died he was no longer friends with Tam & Paige and maybe he didn’t really see his dorm gamer friends as friends but more as just gaming buddies as they were quite a bit older than him. Same with dr surges and linkletter they were more science acquaintances than friends his own age. Just a thought?
Basically you have to treat Young Sheldon as set in an alternate universe. The writers of it failed to keep the storylines accurate to what had been portrayed on TBBT.
Omgomgomg, I just realized. Aren’t the people Sheldon lived with in Dallas Loretta and Clint from HIMYM?
Regarding #2, TBBT Sheldon only ever mentioned THREE non-family member characters from YS: Billy Sparks, Tam and Mr. Givens. TBBT wasn't a show about Sheldon's or any other of the main characters' childhoods. Why would he have ever mentioned Paige (who didn't even exist until s12 of TBBT)? He didn't like her, and she wasn't his friend. She was Missy's friend (Sheldon never mentioned Heather M. either). It's possible that Sturgis could have been mentioned in his Nobel acceptance speech (which is the context in which Givens was mentioned), but he abandoned that speech. Honestly, the answer to most of these is that none of the YS stuff existed for the first 10 seasons of TBBT. But I guess you couldn't make 13 minutes of clickbait out of that.
remember sheldon in young sheldon is the narator, maybe after he have child with amy, he out in his trauma after his father die, defensive mechanism to blame his family in ordrer to not blame him self to the misery of family, he forgot and make story against his past.
Multiversum 😂
especially after seeing in that episode of young sheldon that george never cheated on mary but it was actually marry playing dress up its great to see them show that george was a good man and it was also cool to finnaly see the origins of the three knocks
The show went for 12 seasons and now this show has been going on for a few years, it’s hard to keep track of every little detail so you will notice little inaccuracies in any tv or movie series if it goes on long enough.
Almost all these questions can be answered by 2 things: “Sheldon is an unreliable narrator” (he’s vision of life changed a lot and he might just omit some stuff or remember it differently) and “People change over time for many reasons”.
It all makes sense if you factor in the fact this it is all from his POV and he always has seen things from a more extreme lens than what regular ppl do.
I was thinking the same thing Sheldon only views things his way the “right way” lol
Also, he didn’t have his breakthrough until the very last episode of the big bang, when Amy finally called him out on his behavior and told him the truth on why he only his friends he has today and probably relationships really fast back in the past
I noticed that Sheldon can be considered an unreliable narrator because he did mention that his father was a redneck stereotype but in the series he was a coach that cared about his kids
I hope that Paige eventually turns up in the final season, even if it's one last time. Maybe Sheldon doesn't mention her because similar to Tam, they had a falling out? 🤔
These is a good list. however, there was one that I particularly remember. in BBT, Sheldon said he tried to make a nuclear reactor when he was 14 and got a visit from the FBI. In young Sheldon, he was more 7-9 years old when he did that.
I think part of it is even though he had known Leonard, Penny, Raj, and Howard for a long time, he never really felt comfortable talking about his past with them. Maybe it's only now as he gets older married with Amy that he finally feels comfortable talking about his story.
A problem of continuity: on TBBT Lance Barber appeared at the first time as Jimmy Speckerman, a guy who used to torture Leonard when they used to attend high school. Years later, we know that Barber was casted as George Cooper Sr. on Young Sheldon, and he appeared for short time as George Sr. on TBBT. Now, if we ignore that info, and ignore the being of TBBT as a show, and pretend it's all real, shoudn't Sheldon think that Jimmy is someone really familliar?
Sheldons memory seemed to vary alot for being idetic. There were several times in TBBT that he forgot things. One big one i remember was in an early season his mom sent him his old nintendo so it was time to "break out the redbull and rock mario old school" but apparantly he only had his first energy drink (possibly first caffine) when he worked on the missile guidance system.
Here is what I think the finale will show with Amy and Sheldon... it is that Sheldon doesn't remember but it going through his personal prism which come out in YS
Only explanation: Young Sheldon is a similar but alternate timeline that occurred when Sheldon finally figured out time travel.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if Sandra Oh {Dr. Cristina Yang in GA} appeared in one special episode as the grown up version of the Asian girl who tutored Sheldon in Germany?😊😊😊
The B.B.T. Should do a crossover with Y.S.
Because it was written after TBBT and didn't remember what they wrote before, that's pretty much why.
the answer to some Q?s is thats what happens when u get a prequel also im not quite sure but i think its safe to say that Young Sheldon was more focus on being kid-friendly than what was stated in TBBT.
It’s called retcon. Also, do this when the series is over
It isn't questioning his iditic memory as much as him not taking things in and not liking it
They should make a series with sheldon's and the others cast members children, I want to see what kind of family Sheldon will raise and his struggle to parenting is, but make it hilarious please.
I assume friends don’t always stay friends, so maybe by the time his dad passed he didn’t have any
Paige never existed. She was his imaginary friend. That’s why he never speaks of her.
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