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Most of those can be explained by Sheldon's narcissism - he didn't consider how much dr.Stergis and Tam did to him and for him. He exaggerated his dad's drinking problem, because it's how he saw it. Him overreacting to stuff and exaggerating are amongst most popular jokes both in BBT and "Young Sheldon". Another consistent thing is Sheldon claiming he singularly owned something when he actually shared it. It is most clear when Sheldon and Leonard divided stuff form their apartment. As for Batman, Sheldon could have talked about tv Batman, not comicbook Batman.
When he and Missy got separate rooms, he claimed everything in their room, even going so far as wanting the waste basket. Like Leonard, Missy basically let him have everything.
I maintain that George’s alleged alcoholism was created by Sheldon as a way to cope with his death. In YS George was an integral part of Sheldon’s life and I believe that George’s death affected Sheldon deeply, to the point where he would try to envision his father to be an abusive drunkard to take some of the sting of his passing away.
Interesting point of view. I thought that the show (Big Bang theory) was unfair to George Senior. However, you have a good point. I always saw George Senior as a loving father, supportive, and empathetic. Even though he cheated on Mary (Mary also had a thing for young pastor), he never abused his children.
Also Imho the thing with his father being rude is more from sheldons perspective, because this father didnt always take his side, like mary. So for the cuddled up sheldon that always wants to be the center of the universe, this behavior might have seem rude wven though it isnt
@ramujaku let's face it. The entire series is a retcon to make these characters more likable. They attempted the cheating plot line before and realized how it made everyone hate the characters. So they re-connect it to keep the show going.
1 thing you have to remember, Young Sheldon is basically older Sheldon telling the story from his point of view - his views may have changed inbetween the time of his life the Big Bang Theory was recorded to the time when he narrated Young Sheldon (clearly many years later) Also he saw Paige as a rival more than a friend. The sifference that stood out to me was his Meemaw, she seemed like 2 very different characters in the respective shows
Because scientifically speaking she was shown as smart if not smarter then sheldon so of course with his ego he wouldn't tell others about her. He doesn't speak of his science failures often like when he came back from the artic he never talked about it again but Leonerds boat trip and wolowits going to space was mentioned multiple times.
@@baileeridenour8947 she’s not smarter he’s smarter he’s has no money for high education and she’s does the difference is he teaches himself and has to correct his teachers but she’s in private school so she’s well educated but she’s definitely not smarter than him
Another thing that bugs me is Sheldon claims to have been ruthlessly bullied in high school, when in actual fact we only see him being bullied in one episode and Georgie even says most of the boys just ignore him and the girls think he's cute. Also, in TBBT when Georgie tells Sheldon how he kept the family together when their dad died, he makes no mention of his daughter and also dealing with being a teenage father.
Young Sheldon appears much more grown up and mature than adult Sheldon. For example, young Sheldon is excited to go to Dallas to a gifted school (which didn't work out) where he would be somewhat on his own even though he was going to stay with the director of the school. On the other hand, adult Sheldon is basically incapable of functioning on his own as evidenced by how needy he was when he got sick - expecting others to fix soup for him and swab his throat. Also, it is quite common for children to have heroes such as Professor Proton or Star Trek characters, however usually once a person is an adult, they don't posess the same degree of hero worship that Sheldon does. And finally, young Sheldon had a very adult vocabulary but adult Sheldon has a very childish vocabulary saying things like "goody goody" and "did so, did so". Or when asked to leave so the group can consider whether to introduce him to Stephen Hawking, he goes about 5 feet away, pretends to hide at the refrigerator and eavesdrops on their conversation, or sits on the stairs whining like a dog because the group doesn't take him with them.
the first season, the little guy had a very high pitched voice, but the puberty of the actor is out of a producer's control, this last season his voice is super low, they even try to high pitched on sound engine, but the boy has a deep voice and will only get deeper i think ..
The #1 problem for me was always that TBBT Sheldon consistently described his father as some kind of drunken redneck nightmare. The father in YS may not necessarily be 'Father Of The Year' material, but he isn't anything like this.
@@UmbreonMoonlight But as of the end of season six on YS, the dad has not had an affair. He has had a mild flirtation with Brenda Sparks, but no affair. He also claims to have been bullied but on YS the only bully he encounters was Bobbie Sparks, the neighbor girl who is much younger and littler than he is. In fact, he is a bully, as a tattler at school, and at home, getting his brother in trouble at school and his sister at home.
I think TBBT showed his perspective on the social situation around him. And he was not good at reading social cues. And the YS focuses on the situation as well as Sheldon's impressions and memories of the situation. Some of there wrong beliefs might be because he didn't had the complete picture or believed someone's sarcastic comment.
As to number 2, the conclusion I personally came to was: 1) His mother over the years left only the bad images of George Sr. 2) Sheldon didn't know how to grieve properly, so it built up as a angry sadness and detest to George Sr for "leaving" him behind.
4) Children often don't have objective opinions about their parents; how viewers see George Sr is not necessarily how Sheldon would see George Sr. Plus, Sheldon is so self-absorbed, it's sure to skew his opinion of others.
5) This is still all before George Sr cheated on his wife and it is possible that he had a form of brake down during that time and what Sheldon is remembering is the bad time wish has not happened in the show yet wish made him forget about the good moments 6) Young Sheldon is being told from a perspective of an older Sheldon who has gone threw all of his character development and those is remembering his dad with more cleraty than he did in the show and those we are see more of his good side than we heard on the show
I consider it an independent show. It seems very distantly related to the BBT. The personality of Sheldon is also completely different. As a kid he is much more mature than as an adult. Which makes no sense whatsoever.
1. The soft kitty thing, he used that to soothe himself because he felt intense anxiety. To him he may have felt sick, considering he had to research about a panic attack later on. He struggled with understanding his own body’s responses to emotional turmoil. 2. He may not have been in college for the entire “4 years”. 3. The love for schedules could have come from effects of bad scheduling. Most people with an obsession do it as a result of traumatic experiences. 4. He never understood human relations late into his life, so it’s entirely possible he misunderstood several situations and explained them in his usual narcissistic way. 5. He never spoke about Tam because he felt Tam hurt him. It’s possible later on, Dr Sturgis or Paige hurt him in one way or another. As we know, he has a tendency to shut down when challenged or hurt. Maybe a coping mechanism was to “forget” them. 6. Maybe “his room” was the garage. 7. Considering Sheldon BARELY drank, it’s possible he saw his dad as an alcoholic. I mean, he called Leonard a boozehound for clinking glasses past a certain time. 8. They are going broke in this new season, it’s possible they get a house on cinder blocks soon considering they “made a lot of sacrifices for Sheldon” as Georgie said to him in the season finale. If you really pay attention to TBBT, you’ll understand how and why Young Sheldon paves the way for who he is, whilst cleverly leaving room for character development (like why he hates geology) Of course there may be some inconsistencies but not as bad as people make it seem.
Even more important for the college one...is that Sheldon has 2 PhDs....so even if he went to college non-stop it is still gonna be way more than 4 years because no matter how smart you are, you have a set list of classes that have to be taken in a set order. So their math was WAAAY off.
OK, so for Sheldon and Missy, having separate rooms before, in the first episode of young Sheldon, George mentions that they moved from Galveston to Medford pretty recently. So my guess is that they had separate rooms in the house that they were in before.
Sheldon notes that they have always shared rooms together. While I would say this could be Sheldon exaggerating, Missy does not deny it. Meaning it's most likely true.
The fact that its the same actor who played Leonards antagonist from high school in The Big Bang that plays Sheldons father George Cooper is the biggest odd thing. But at the same point he´s a good actor and I understand if they wanted to use him for Young Sheldon and the fact that his character on Big bang was rather small.
I like to think there are two different versions of Young Sheldon. The one we're seeing which is how events actually played out, and one from Sheldon's perspective which would more closely align with how he described his childhood in the original show. He probably believes the time around Young Sheldon to be some of the worst years of his life which is why he refuses to mention any positive memory. Why was George described as an alcoholic? Probably because after Sheldon catches him cheating he takes anything negative about George and takes it as an absolute about George's character, for example his liking for beer. Why was the owner of the liquor store sad about George's death? Probably because he and George were actually pretty close and had a good friendship, running the liquor store probably gave him and George the opportunity to become better friends because it was a place where they could actually connect.
@@demonheart13 Technically they didnt retcon it. Sheldon didnt know it was Mary, since he didnt know it was just Mary he percieved it as George cheating. Remember my theory is based on the fact that until Young Sheldon, Sheldon was the only real source of information on his childhood.
I think Young Sheldon makes sense as a show on its own, but the details about his childhood given on the BBT don’t make sense. For instance, Missy and Sheldon having separate rooms at 8 years old would mean their family was wealthy, which they were not.
Including Sheldons narcissism, maybe he thought that the Garage was also his own room, since he had everything like his trains and science stuff there.
@@GMSryBut he wouldn't call the garage his room tbh, it just doesn;t make sense. personally, i think YS is a great show. but as a spin off to TTBT; yeah its not a good one. if you look at bcs and brba they executed it perfectly. and also although mary has had her bad moments, i really don't think she would feed information of george being a drunken as he describes him. and sheldon for sure knew his dad was not an a drunken fool.
I’ve never seen Big Bang but I adore Young Sheldon. They did just have a pretty bad storm in the season finale, maybe that’s where the house on blocks comes in. Probably not but still a fun thought. 🥴🤷🏽♀️🙃
The Coopers would have to lose their house somehow - im thinking maybe the bank takes it after George/Mary fall behind on bills as they have low paying jobs now and managed to get some house on bricks (or no job at all idk) which could lead to George drinking more since now he doesn't have the house
just finished watching season 6 yesterday. oh my gosh, I totally forgot how young they were in the first seasons. the actors are all grown-up now. my favourite character from YS is Georgie, he's adorable🙂
It is so sad that Paige and Dr Sturgis were not even mentioned in the Big Bang Theory. If it weren't for Dr Sturgis Sheldon would still be in High School. And if it weren't for Paige, he wouldn't have been challenged academically in his early years.
Maybe something happened with him and Paige that he wants to forget maybe it was something she did to him during her rebellious stage and she must have gotten him in trouble and blamed him for something she did given the episode of season 3 it’s a possibility although we may never know what she did to him if she did do something to him we may never know what happened with her but I think she ended up in prison or juvie in season 7 and maybe she fell in with the wrong crowd and did something to get arrested and what happened to sturgus he must have passed away given how old he is it’s a possibility and since he was a role model to him he doesn’t want to talk about his sad death because he might cry people don’t usually want to talk about people who passed that were important to them cause they might cry that’s it
It's called pier and beam which is a popular foundation type in Texas. Yes it uses you guessed cinder blocks. So his current house could have moved off the blocks especially after the tornado at the end of season six.
When it comes to Sheldon and Missy sharing a room, at the beginning of YS they had just moved back to Medford because George had lost his job, so it's entirely possible that in their previous home sheldon and Missy had separate rooms.
With the soft kitty one, the rule about it being sang only when Sheldon/ others are sick is also broken in tbbt. Penny and Leonard sing to Sheldon to put him to sleep when he doesn't for several days, the man himself even sings it to Amy to calm her nerves when she gets stressed about winning the Nobel. I think the song is more of a soother/ lullaby kinda thing to relax Sheldon/ others
You do realise that Sheldon and his family moved from Galveston to Medford before the start of Young Sheldon; so maybe Sheldon and Missy had separate rooms then.
Tam was his only friend. Paige was more of a rival smart person. And she was more of Missy's friend. Also the dorm neighbors were not friends. They just allowed him to hang out with them to play videogames. As for Dr Sturgis he doesn't mention him like he doesn't mention Dr Linkletter who made it possible for Sheldon to go to Germany. And lastly Sheldon is a Dr. It takes a few years for him to get his doctorate degree. So he just never mentions it when he's given his timeline of events. You could have replaced any of those above with the fact that Sheldon says Billy Sparks was one of his Bullies. So unless in season 7 Billy suddenly becomes a bully I would say that is a more glaring difference then any of the above things. Oh and just because he was in the same room as Hawkins doesn't mean he met him. Maybe that's why hes so desperate to actually meet him
Another one is that in the Big Bang Theory Sheldon said his grandma was originally from Oklahoma. In young Sheldon she says she was born and raised in Texas.
I gotta question your comic book logic. Just because older Sheldon recalls Batman and the Justice League from a young age does not necessarily mean that he enjoyed comics at that same young age. Young Sheldon might have watched Batman and/or the Justice League on 📺 yet chosen not to partake in reading Batman comic books.
Regarding the depiction of Sheldon's father, I heard a fan theory that is quite interesting. Put simply, Sheldon remembers his father as worse than he actually was because George wasn't ad coddling as Mary. George worked hard to try and get Sheldon prepared for the real world, while still being a loving father he wasn't afraid to put him foot down and have Sheldon handle stuff alone. Mary, while not a push over of course, is certainly shown to be much more of a coddler than George is. And according to the theory, this skewed Sheldon's view of his childhood. Growing more close to his mom since the routine obsessed and change resistant Sheldon preferred Mary's coddling over George's preparing him for reality.
A lot of these can be easily explained by one simple fact: in TBBT, these stories are entirely from Sheldon’s perspective, while Young Sheldon actually shows what really happened. Just because Sheldon has an eidetic memory doesn’t mean he is incapable of embellishing the truth.
Or maybe the adult Sheldon narrating the prequel series has intentionally alrered most of the details of his early life because the reality was too cruel.
In YS Sheldon had an emergency operation to get his appendix out, but in TBBT he said that he still had his appendix (he changed his food groups, got bad stomach pain, but it was just a huge fart because of sprouts)
The fact that Doctor Sturgis mentioned being called an alien may be a reference to his actor Wallace Shawn being the leader of the Ferengi in "Star Trek: Deep Space 9".
I have another one. In TBBT, Sheldon is always talking about his uncles, but in Young Sheldon, we've never met nor heard about any brothers for either Mary nor George.
Also, I *like* most of the Young Sheldon series more than BBT. There were good moments throughout, but later season older Sheldon was almost unbearable sometimes. Meanwhile, yes it bugged me when the cute lil brainiac started turning into a brat, but I still really like the stories and characters on YS. Esp the relationship between him and his dad. He's not a perfect man, but damn did he try, and he was a good father.
Does any adult really remember all the intricate details of their childhood lives? Memories are a matter of perspective so what he says happened may not actually be how it really happened. That would explain why adult Sheldon remembers some details differently then how they actually played out in 'Young Sheldon'.
Unfortunately, Sheldon constantly reminds everyone that he has an idedic memory which obviously means he can recall any detail of his entire life down to the very minute and second of the day as he states.
@@mikecotto1167 Sheldon could just be an unreliable narrator, though. Either the things he mentions in TBBT are fabricated to make his life more interesting, or Young Sheldon could be how he wishes his life had been and not how it actually was. Having an eidetic memory doesn't prevent somebody from lying or making up stories.
I don't think the comic book one is that big of a deal. Saturday morning cartoons were still must see t.v. in the 80's and 90's when YS takes place. It is very possible that Sheldon knew about X-Men and Batman through cartoons. He could have cut the Justice League card off the back of a cereal box or sent in for one from a postcard on a cereal box. He may have thought reading comic books was beneath him because they were not intellectually stimulating but then later changed his mind or maybe he didn't have the opportunity because the only things he could read were school related. Also most compulsive behaviors start small and then progressively gets worse. Sometimes it is a coping mechanism from a trauma like your house being destroyed or your father dying. It starts as a way control your environment. And lastly, being in the same room as Stephen Hawking is not the same as meeting him so it still makes sense that Sheldon would freak out about the chance to *finally* meet him after always being close but not close enough.
To make Sheldon happy this is an alternate reality, life of Sheldon. Good thing this wasn't Wizard's First Rule, which was utterly a different story outside of the name of the characters.
They also forgot about his mom and dad fighting all the time. When penny and Lenard fight Sheldon escapes to the comic book store cause the fighting gave him ptsd
In the view of a child things can get mixed up, Sheldon's father did drink, but in the mind of a child the amount he drank may not show the truth. Sheldon may only remember the bad times and not the good times. Seeing Dr Stephen Hawking as a child is not meeting him.
Maybe Missy and Sheldon started sharing a room at age 9. Mary acted like George had a drinking problem more than once. Sheldon had a friend or two, but he at lunch in the library with Tam. I can see where he’d loosely call that “no friends”. Sheldon also may not have considered anyone not his intellectual equal as a friend, and then considered anyone his intellectual equal a competitor, leaving no one left that wasn’t in one of those two groups.
5:35 - The fact that Sheldon SAW Hawking at a lecture is not the same as MEETING him at Cal Tech. No different than watching someone in concert vs. actually meeting them somewhere & talking to them.
I'm 21 and I hardly remember most stuff about my childhood. It's quite possible that 27 yo Sheldon never mentions Sturgis simply because he might not have been a part of his life after Sheldon turned 13 or so. Same thing about sharing a room with Missy - they stopped that when they were 11/12 and Georgie moved out, so they still had quite a lot of time to make memories living in seperate rooms. I started the BBT/Young Sheldon thing from Young Sheldon, so I don't know how a BBT fan would react, but I think YS does a very good job as a prequel. Aside from a few not overly important things, the show didn't create any plotholes.
It is worthy of note that even before the prequel, Big Bang didn't have the best continuity; two big examples, both incidentally involving George; In a late season episode, Sheldon states that his three knock habit was developed as a teen when he walked in on George having an affair; but in the episode that detailed how Leonard moved into the apartment, it is shown that he developed the habit when trying to gain entry to Leonard's room during the Joyce Kim incident. Similarly in the last season, in the episode where Sheldon watches a video of Young Sheldon giving his future self a pep talk, only for George to have recorded over it. After watching George's own pep talk to his team, Sheldon makes a sports metaphor which he and Amy both claim was his first when in actuality he previously used a sports metaphor with the whole Three Strikes system in the season 1 episode detailing a feud between Sheldon and Penny.
I think the main reason why George in Young Sheldon isn't portrayed as a alcoholic abusive dad is simply because Young Sheldon is more of a family/kids show and alcoholic/abusive just doesn't fit there. The same thing with Missy and Georgie being portrayed as childhood bullies in TBBT, but not in YS, it's just more family friendly. Also, many people are complaining why Paige and dr. Sturgis aren't mentioned at all in TBBT, the answer is pretty obvious: TBBT was made y e a r s before YS, so the writers at the time probably had no idea that a series like YS will ever exist. Even tough YS first season and TBBT last season did air at the same time, I think at that point TBBT didn't bother because it would be weird to only mention it in the 12th and final season. Of course, if I remember correctly, there are like two more seasons coming for YS, so maybe its gonna change a lot of the plot holes, but like with TBBT, it would be weird to push all those problems into the final season. I have also read that the writers (who are the same people who produced TBBT) regret some things they said about stuff in TBBT so they have already warned us its not gonna be completely factual. In conclusion, the main problem why there are so many differences, is simple. TBBT was made years before and at the time, it was never considered that a show like YS might exist and ofc TBBT was first and foremost a comedy/sitcom and wasn't supposed to be that serious, in comparison to YS which is a family show and not exactly a comedy/sitcom with a constant laugh track.
exactly you are right idk why people don't understan such basic thing. and this was my explanation (initially there was never a plan for a prequel and when they made it so they also created new characters for the show that's why many of ys characters aren't mentioned in bbt.)
Thank you. I have no idea why so many comments try to use Young Sheldon to accuse Sheldon from TBBT of lying or misremebering. Young Sheldon just retcons things to be a more family friendly show, it’s a simple concept
Some of these bother me but some like his friends & his dad’s drinking I tell myself in TBBT that was his perception of things. To him maybe his dad was an alcoholic and maybe he didn’t consider many as friends and more acquaintances. I was thinking about the Dr. Stirgus thing just last night.
His father didn't drink any more than Meemaw did and Sheldon has no recollections of her being drunk. In actuality, both Meemaw and Mary were show drunk but George has never been shown inebriated.
@@rocketmom60 but a child’s perception can be different. MeeMaw & Mary doted on Sheldon. George didn’t cater to him like them. So he would see his actions & drinking differently. He was a bit inebriated when he had the heart attack at the bar with Brenda. Remember Sheldon saw things way differently than others. He never realized that Georgie stepped up to take care of the family after George died. Everyone protected him from stuff. George was different from others. And he may have seen him differently than he actually was.
@@nita409 I do think Sheldon saw him differently than he really was. You are definitely right about that. I think adult Sheldon's memories of his father are tainted by the complete disdain he has for his father (and siblings), so he is not capable of giving his father credit for being as good a dad as we see in YS. Mary and Meemaw always catered to him so in his mind they were good while his father, Missy and Georgie were bad.
one thing that really bugs me in young sheldon is that they forgot to show us why sheldon knocks 3 times.. in tbbt, he said that he was his dad cheating when he was 13, but we never saw that... i don't know if they'll show that when he returns from germany or something, but yea
How is it not mentioned that Missy's personality is different between the two shows? That can't all be chalked up to character development and lack of screentime, right? And she even develops a Southern accent as an adult somehow?? It's my biggest gripe and the reason why I treat the two shows as separate because I really can't reconcile the difference. Also in TBBT Sheldon sings "Soft Kitty" to Amy when she was upset over the pressures of winning a Nobel Prize. So I think emotional turmoil is part of the illness spectrum for him.
Another one I've mentioned before is it is weird sheldon didn't recognise Leonard's bully from the past on the big bang theory as it was the same actor who played is dad in young sheldon. Another little fact to bring the shows together is that the ladies who play his mum on the big bang theory and young sheldon are mother and daughter in real life.
Why is it weird? The actor plays two completely different characters, Sheldon isn't supposed to recognize him. Also the fact that the episode was made way before Young Sheldon.
I wonder why Tam just stops showing up after Season four of the spinoff, when he was Sheldon's only friend, and isn't so much as mentioned. At least we know he eventually appears in the parent series as an adult.
Well, I got a theory on it: the show "Young Sheldon" is not actually based on the real Sheldon but was made by Sheldon himself. It is like a show in the universe of the Big Bang Theory made by Sheldon. There is evidence proving it; once we got induced to a bully of Lenoerd, who looked like Sheldon's dad, but Sheldon did not even notice or mention it. I think Sheldon gave him his dad's role in the "Young Sheldon" show. This show is a biopic of Sheldon's young age, made by him. This explains every error: the errors are not errors but the writer modified a story a bit. Thus the show "Young sheldon" is a in universe show from big bang theory which is biopic of the childhood of sheldon. "I always listen to myself. It's one of the great joys of my life" ~Sheldon Cooper
Another thing that doesn’t make any sense is that Georgie has a child in the early 90s and yet his daughter doesn’t attend her Uncle Sheldon’s wedding in 2018. By that time she would be 25 years old.
There’s quite a few people he never talks about. He never mentioned sturgis, linkletter or his high school friend Tam. I don’t think he’s ever mentioned his niece Constance either though I think he’d mentioned Mandy as his sister in law
because initially there was never a plan for a prequel and when they made it so they also created new characters for the show that's why many of ys characters aren't mentioned in bbt.
Regarding schedules and rules, didn’t young Sheldon create a relationship agreement with Meemaw and either Dr. Sturgis or Craig Nelson’s character (Ballard?). Also, when Georgie moved into the garage young Sheldon drew up an agreement, between Georgie and their parents.
I could definitely be wrong about this (and it could just be a fan theory). But I think I read somewhere that Young Sheldon is considered more of an alternate version of Sheldon than an actual prequel. And I believe reason for this was to give creators more freedom.
As a TBBT fan I refused to watch Young Sheldon from the start, when I Saw discrepancies such as the fact that his parents great relationship instead of his mum cursing him and his father cheating on her.
You know... relationships that have cheating happen aren't all bad from the beginning right? That's a very childish point of view. Also George Sr. deserves to have some good character traits. The cheating does happen but its an *emotional* affair, and Mary has one too. I adore TBBT, but refusing to watch another show that is based off a character of a previous one because of "discrepancies" is just childish. Even Sheldon with his eidetic memory can't remember things objectively. What we hear from him in the TBBT series are events from his point of view and colored by his perception. What we see in the show is an objective point of view. FFS. Grow up.
The characters in Young Sheldon not mentioned in TBBT are clearly dead -- dead to Sheldon, with his selective perfect memory, anyway. This wasn't possible with his father and grandfather, because they were actual family. This explanation does raise the question of when Sheldon as narrator-Sheldon is narrating from. It also makes me sad about the likely fate of Paige -- she is the character with whom I most identify.
The answer to all of these "discrepancies" boil down to one thing: an unreliable narrator. Think about your own childhood, and then go ask your parents or older siblings their thoughts about the same instances. Sheldon on TBBT has coloured his own views of the past. For example, he was hurt by his dad's behavior and, worse, he saw his mom hurt by him, and he turned his father into a monster in his own memories.
In fact, there are a huge number of inconsistencies between these two series, but I read somewhere that the creators themselves understand this and they explain this by the fact that YS is an alternative reality to the main series. According to the descriptions from TBBT, the series would have been terribly dark with not very pleasant characters, and had to be rewritten.
That was pretty obvious and why I never watched YS. It sounds insane, but Sheldon describing his dad being angry at his brother for stealing his "driving whiskey" is hilarious to hear, but it's horrifying to actually see play out. "Driving whiskey" is a funny phrase, a man going apeshit because on his kids because his whiskey is gone is tragic.
As a kid in the 80s, superheroes were everywhere. You didn't have to read Comics to have superhero related stuff. The 60s Batman TV show played on reruns all the time and I used to watch it everyday. I also watched reruns of Wonder Woman and had Wonder Woman Underoos. Never read a comic. At the time that Sheldon sang Soft Kitty to himself, he had a broken arm. As we know, being hurt is a kind of sick🙂
Also, Billy Sparks was often described by Sheldon in "The Big Bang Theory" as a horrible bully, but in "Young Sheldon", he is not a bad kid. In fact, I love Billy.
I didn’t watch much of TBBT, but it seems that adult Sheldon turns to jelly whenever Mary gives him orders. But in Young Sheldon, he acts as superior to her as he does to everyone els
Maybe older Sheldon doesn't consider those others as friends, just acquaintance's. And he claims to have an eidetic memory, but on more than one occasion he realizes he has made a mistake so perhaps he is faulty on his truth. I think the deal with Sturgis is that he cut Sheldon off because of the time he interfered with his book and contacted his colleges about it.
"Make no Sense" - or just retcons. There were plenty in TBBT itself, so no wonder the writes ignored some aspects to make more compelling stories for YS. Or try to do so...
I have to disagree with #9, all I see the dad drink on the show is beer, IMO that is an alcoholic. He yells a lot and drinks a lot. To a young child whose memory could amplify the negatives years later, I could easily see him remembering his father that way.
10. Maybe his mother just said that as an excuse 9. Sheldon just said it because he did not want the emotions of the song. 6. His personality could have changed! When he was little, he might not liked schedules yet, but he already liked statistics and keeping close track of e.g. his bowel movements...
For the first one, this might be an example of Sheldon’s narcissism or self-importance. The reason Mary would go back to Texas was because (as we now know) Connie’s house was destroyed by a tornado. To Sheldon, however, this may seem like just a minor inconvenience. It wasn’t important in his mind. It wasn’t as devastating. He doesn’t really care what actually happened
You missed the most frustrating part Sheldon’s dad appeared in big bang theory as one of Leonard’s childhood bullies and the put the same actor to play as Sheldon’s dad in young sheldon
So in the show Young Sheldon, when it comes to the twins sharing a room, it is said that they moved to the house in Young Sheldon after George was fired from his last job. This was in the first episode. They could have had separate rooms in the old house, but were forced share rooms in the new house
Personally, I have no issues with the fact that the childhood in YS is not as bleak as TBBT portrayed. There wouldn't have been much humor or much sense in watching the show if Sheldon's childhood was portrayed exactly the same way as he laid out in TBBT. YS is its own show and the writers said early on they were not going to be beholden to all the claims the character made in TBBT. Just because Sheldon remembers it that way doesn't mean it's true or accurate. Sheldon remembers himself as being patient, nurturing, and "suffering in silence" with his roommate Leonard and his other friends on TBBT. And hell, some of what Sheldon says about his youth in early seasons of TBBT contradicts what he says in later seasons, *before* YS was ever on the air. These are wacky sitcoms, guys; they aren't supposed to be held to any standards of continuity.
My only problem is that he's supposed to have an eidentic memory?? No? So him recalling moments in his life should be identical to what actually happens.... When where and probably why as well let alone who was there.....? So why is all this so different Truly this is the only reason why young Sheldon don't make sense to me parallel world theories and all this ain't right
Or his identical memory is how he remembers it and not so much what actually happens or he is a lies alot or he is just flat out crazy most super genius are 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@UmbreonMoonlight If he truly had an eidetic memory, he would not be remembering things inaccurately. Either he doesn't truly have an eidetic memory, or he is a liar.
Well, don't overthink it. The main reason there are things contradicting YS with TBBT is because YS series was not anticipated until Jim Parsons suggested it near the end of TBBT. When they start producing YS, of course there are some things that they can relate to TBBT, but some things are not. Just brush it off.
For #10 in the pilot episode they mentioned they moved to East Texas from Galveston because the dad lost his job in Galveston. Their Galveston house could have been on cinder blocks and ergo washed away during a hurricane but the timeline would still be off
Which of these is the biggest problem in YOUR mind? Let us know below, and be sure to also check out our video of the Top 10 Heartwarming Family Moments on Young Sheldon - th-cam.com/video/N3Xrlh2eAdQ/w-d-xo.html
He also mentions a dead cat named Lucky, no sign of any cat on YS so far
Ah ok thanks!
@@christopherbingham5092 He also says Missy had a guinea pig named Snowball.
Most of those can be explained by Sheldon's narcissism - he didn't consider how much dr.Stergis and Tam did to him and for him. He exaggerated his dad's drinking problem, because it's how he saw it. Him overreacting to stuff and exaggerating are amongst most popular jokes both in BBT and "Young Sheldon". Another consistent thing is Sheldon claiming he singularly owned something when he actually shared it. It is most clear when Sheldon and Leonard divided stuff form their apartment. As for Batman, Sheldon could have talked about tv Batman, not comicbook Batman.
When he and Missy got separate rooms, he claimed everything in their room, even going so far as wanting the waste basket. Like Leonard, Missy basically let him have everything.
Did you mean to say exaggerated?
@@TallyDrake , yes, thank you)
@@PolinaLee94 I thought maybe. I agree with what you wrote.
@@TallyDrake Or perhaps lied.
I maintain that George’s alleged alcoholism was created by Sheldon as a way to cope with his death. In YS George was an integral part of Sheldon’s life and I believe that George’s death affected Sheldon deeply, to the point where he would try to envision his father to be an abusive drunkard to take some of the sting of his passing away.
or the fact he catches his father cheating
Interesting point of view. I thought that the show (Big Bang theory) was unfair to George Senior. However, you have a good point. I always saw George Senior as a loving father, supportive, and empathetic. Even though he cheated on Mary (Mary also had a thing for young pastor), he never abused his children.
Also Imho the thing with his father being rude is more from sheldons perspective, because this father didnt always take his side, like mary. So for the cuddled up sheldon that always wants to be the center of the universe, this behavior might have seem rude wven though it isnt
@@elizabethduran3435it turns out he never even cheated on Mary, it was just Sheldon once again misunderstanding
@ramujaku let's face it. The entire series is a retcon to make these characters more likable. They attempted the cheating plot line before and realized how it made everyone hate the characters. So they re-connect it to keep the show going.
1 thing you have to remember, Young Sheldon is basically older Sheldon telling the story from his point of view - his views may have changed inbetween the time of his life the Big Bang Theory was recorded to the time when he narrated Young Sheldon (clearly many years later)
Also he saw Paige as a rival more than a friend.
The sifference that stood out to me was his Meemaw, she seemed like 2 very different characters in the respective shows
yes, this should have been the top 1! she looks like mr clauss on the big bang and on young sheldon she's like a rock star retired
I think in s7 missy 's wild teenage years are gonna start to calm meemaw down
@FranciscoSantos-my4es its not just the behaviour - there isnt even the slightest hint of a resemblance between the 2 versions
She might kill herself in a future episode?
@jfilm7466 if you are referring to Meemaw, then she cant have as she appeared in the Big Bang Theory , set years after Young Sheldon
I always wondered why the Paige character played such a big part of Sheldon and Missy’s life but is never mentioned in TBBT.
Many theories out there. Mostly surrounding the possibility that we may see an unfortunate "early end".
@@Porthos240 But even there it makes little to no sense. She would have been an good example when Penny startted to have more influence on the gang.
Because scientifically speaking she was shown as smart if not smarter then sheldon so of course with his ego he wouldn't tell others about her. He doesn't speak of his science failures often like when he came back from the artic he never talked about it again but Leonerds boat trip and wolowits going to space was mentioned multiple times.
@@baileeridenour8947 she’s not smarter he’s smarter he’s has no money for high education and she’s does the difference is he teaches himself and has to correct his teachers but she’s in private school so she’s well educated but she’s definitely not smarter than him
Because all that is a b...s.... And we should just boycott...just trying to figure out which series...ehhh
Another thing that bugs me is Sheldon claims to have been ruthlessly bullied in high school, when in actual fact we only see him being bullied in one episode and Georgie even says most of the boys just ignore him and the girls think he's cute.
Also, in TBBT when Georgie tells Sheldon how he kept the family together when their dad died, he makes no mention of his daughter and also dealing with being a teenage father.
The thing that takes me out of the show the most is the fact that Young Sheldon's voice is deeper in many ways than TBBT Sheldon's.
It's worthy of note there that Sheldon did have a deeper voice in the early seasons, before Jim Parsons really mastered the role
Young Sheldon appears much more grown up and mature than adult Sheldon. For example, young Sheldon is excited to go to Dallas to a gifted school (which didn't work out) where he would be somewhat on his own even though he was going to stay with the director of the school. On the other hand, adult Sheldon is basically incapable of functioning on his own as evidenced by how needy he was when he got sick - expecting others to fix soup for him and swab his throat. Also, it is quite common for children to have heroes such as Professor Proton or Star Trek characters, however usually once a person is an adult, they don't posess the same degree of hero worship that Sheldon does. And finally, young Sheldon had a very adult vocabulary but adult Sheldon has a very childish vocabulary saying things like "goody goody" and "did so, did so". Or when asked to leave so the group can consider whether to introduce him to Stephen Hawking, he goes about 5 feet away, pretends to hide at the refrigerator and eavesdrops on their conversation, or sits on the stairs whining like a dog because the group doesn't take him with them.
the first season, the little guy had a very high pitched voice, but the puberty of the actor is out of a producer's control, this last season his voice is super low, they even try to high pitched on sound engine, but the boy has a deep voice and will only get deeper i think ..
The #1 problem for me was always that TBBT Sheldon consistently described his father as some kind of drunken redneck nightmare. The father in YS may not necessarily be 'Father Of The Year' material, but he isn't anything like this.
Maybe the trauma sheldon had when he seen his dad with another woman made him think of him that way
@@UmbreonMoonlight But as of the end of season six on YS, the dad has not had an affair. He has had a mild flirtation with Brenda Sparks, but no affair. He also claims to have been bullied but on YS the only bully he encounters was Bobbie Sparks, the neighbor girl who is much younger and littler than he is. In fact, he is a bully, as a tattler at school, and at home, getting his brother in trouble at school and his sister at home.
@@rocketmom60 why I think sheldon made alot up just to make people feel sorry for him
@@UmbreonMoonlight I completely agree.
I think TBBT showed his perspective on the social situation around him. And he was not good at reading social cues. And the YS focuses on the situation as well as Sheldon's impressions and memories of the situation. Some of there wrong beliefs might be because he didn't had the complete picture or believed someone's sarcastic comment.
As to number 2, the conclusion I personally came to was:
1) His mother over the years left only the bad images of George Sr.
2) Sheldon didn't know how to grieve properly, so it built up as a angry sadness and detest to George Sr for "leaving" him behind.
3) They just made George a better character, because a drunk abusive dad wouldn't fit to be on a family show like Young Sheldon.
4) Children often don't have objective opinions about their parents; how viewers see George Sr is not necessarily how Sheldon would see George Sr. Plus, Sheldon is so self-absorbed, it's sure to skew his opinion of others.
5) This is still all before George Sr cheated on his wife and it is possible that he had a form of brake down during that time and what Sheldon is remembering is the bad time wish has not happened in the show yet wish made him forget about the good moments
6) Young Sheldon is being told from a perspective of an older Sheldon who has gone threw all of his character development and those is remembering his dad with more cleraty than he did in the show and those we are see more of his good side than we heard on the show
@@PM-ov9sg8)we even see Sheldon gaining that clarity in TBBT in the episode where Young Sheldon cameos via the old tape
I consider Young Sheldon a parallel universe with some tweaks so it makes sense in my geeky mind
Seems the best way to go.
That’s a good way to look at it, think of it as not canon
I consider it an independent show. It seems very distantly related to the BBT. The personality of Sheldon is also completely different. As a kid he is much more mature than as an adult. Which makes no sense whatsoever.
1. The soft kitty thing, he used that to soothe himself because he felt intense anxiety. To him he may have felt sick, considering he had to research about a panic attack later on. He struggled with understanding his own body’s responses to emotional turmoil.
2. He may not have been in college for the entire “4 years”.
3. The love for schedules could have come from effects of bad scheduling. Most people with an obsession do it as a result of traumatic experiences.
4. He never understood human relations late into his life, so it’s entirely possible he misunderstood several situations and explained them in his usual narcissistic way.
5. He never spoke about Tam because he felt Tam hurt him. It’s possible later on, Dr Sturgis or Paige hurt him in one way or another. As we know, he has a tendency to shut down when challenged or hurt. Maybe a coping mechanism was to “forget” them.
6. Maybe “his room” was the garage.
7. Considering Sheldon BARELY drank, it’s possible he saw his dad as an alcoholic. I mean, he called Leonard a boozehound for clinking glasses past a certain time.
8. They are going broke in this new season, it’s possible they get a house on cinder blocks soon considering they “made a lot of sacrifices for Sheldon” as Georgie said to him in the season finale.
If you really pay attention to TBBT, you’ll understand how and why Young Sheldon paves the way for who he is, whilst cleverly leaving room for character development (like why he hates geology) Of course there may be some inconsistencies but not as bad as people make it seem.
Even more important for the college one...is that Sheldon has 2 PhDs....so even if he went to college non-stop it is still gonna be way more than 4 years because no matter how smart you are, you have a set list of classes that have to be taken in a set order. So their math was WAAAY off.
Georgie actually moved into the garage and Sheldon took his room
@@cooperminion825Not in the early seasons and Missy took Georgies room. Sheldon stayed in the old one.
OK, so for Sheldon and Missy, having separate rooms before, in the first episode of young Sheldon, George mentions that they moved from Galveston to Medford pretty recently. So my guess is that they had separate rooms in the house that they were in before.
Sheldon notes that they have always shared rooms together. While I would say this could be Sheldon exaggerating, Missy does not deny it. Meaning it's most likely true.
Younng Sheldon is much more considerate of other's feelings than his adult version ever was.
Yeah that bugs me a lot. He is more mature as a kid than as an adult.
The fact that its the same actor who played Leonards antagonist from high school in The Big Bang that plays Sheldons father George Cooper is the biggest odd thing. But at the same point he´s a good actor and I understand if they wanted to use him for Young Sheldon and the fact that his character on Big bang was rather small.
It's weird to because Young Sheldon an The Big Bang Theory are in the same universe?
One thing that at bothers me…. Missy’s accent! In The BBT, she has a deep Texan accent, but in young Sheldon, she has no accent.
She was sassier too!
Same with Georgie. In Young Sheldon, he has a deep Texas twang. In TBBT he has lost his Texas accent.
Yes! Thank you
He didn’t consider those people “friends”. Only Tam was his true friend. They were acquaintances. Huge difference.
Colleagues.
@@TheVicvega26 yes!
I like to think there are two different versions of Young Sheldon. The one we're seeing which is how events actually played out, and one from Sheldon's perspective which would more closely align with how he described his childhood in the original show. He probably believes the time around Young Sheldon to be some of the worst years of his life which is why he refuses to mention any positive memory. Why was George described as an alcoholic? Probably because after Sheldon catches him cheating he takes anything negative about George and takes it as an absolute about George's character, for example his liking for beer. Why was the owner of the liquor store sad about George's death? Probably because he and George were actually pretty close and had a good friendship, running the liquor store probably gave him and George the opportunity to become better friends because it was a place where they could actually connect.
I like that theory
Except they also retconed his cheating to Sheldon walking in on his mom and dad in a costume. Young Sheldon is a joke at this point.
@@demonheart13 Technically they didnt retcon it. Sheldon didnt know it was Mary, since he didnt know it was just Mary he percieved it as George cheating. Remember my theory is based on the fact that until Young Sheldon, Sheldon was the only real source of information on his childhood.
Going to see a Hawking lecture and not having MET him before are not the same thing.
I think Young Sheldon makes sense as a show on its own, but the details about his childhood given on the BBT don’t make sense. For instance, Missy and Sheldon having separate rooms at 8 years old would mean their family was wealthy, which they were not.
Including Sheldons narcissism, maybe he thought that the Garage was also his own room, since he had everything like his trains and science stuff there.
@@GMSryBut he wouldn't call the garage his room tbh, it just doesn;t make sense. personally, i think YS is a great show. but as a spin off to TTBT; yeah its not a good one. if you look at bcs and brba they executed it perfectly. and also although mary has had her bad moments, i really don't think she would feed information of george being a drunken as he describes him. and sheldon for sure knew his dad was not an a drunken fool.
I’ve never seen Big Bang but I adore Young Sheldon. They did just have a pretty bad storm in the season finale, maybe that’s where the house on blocks comes in. Probably not but still a fun thought. 🥴🤷🏽♀️🙃
The Coopers would have to lose their house somehow - im thinking maybe the bank takes it after George/Mary fall behind on bills as they have low paying jobs now and managed to get some house on bricks (or no job at all idk) which could lead to George drinking more since now he doesn't have the house
Sheldons house was untouched. Memaw’s was totaled.
just finished watching season 6 yesterday. oh my gosh, I totally forgot how young they were in the first seasons. the actors are all grown-up now. my favourite character from YS is Georgie, he's adorable🙂
It is so sad that Paige and Dr Sturgis were not even mentioned in the Big Bang Theory. If it weren't for Dr Sturgis Sheldon would still be in High School. And if it weren't for Paige, he wouldn't have been challenged academically in his early years.
Paige I think as he knows she as smart as him older years he don't like admit people are smarter than him
Maybe something happened with him and Paige that he wants to forget maybe it was something she did to him during her rebellious stage and she must have gotten him in trouble and blamed him for something she did given the episode of season 3 it’s a possibility although we may never know what she did to him if she did do something to him we may never know what happened with her but I think she ended up in prison or juvie in season 7 and maybe she fell in with the wrong crowd and did something to get arrested and what happened to sturgus he must have passed away given how old he is it’s a possibility and since he was a role model to him he doesn’t want to talk about his sad death because he might cry people don’t usually want to talk about people who passed that were important to them cause they might cry that’s it
He didn't even mention Dr Sturgis during his Nobel Prize speech
@@Komicklepto no only his family and the other 5
@@bluelions2275 it was like Sheldon completely forgot all about him
It's called pier and beam which is a popular foundation type in Texas. Yes it uses you guessed cinder blocks. So his current house could have moved off the blocks especially after the tornado at the end of season six.
When it comes to Sheldon and Missy sharing a room, at the beginning of YS they had just moved back to Medford because George had lost his job, so it's entirely possible that in their previous home sheldon and Missy had separate rooms.
There's a difference between attending a lecture and meeting someone.
Sheldon also sang "Soft Kitty" to soothe his niece in season 6
With the soft kitty one, the rule about it being sang only when Sheldon/ others are sick is also broken in tbbt. Penny and Leonard sing to Sheldon to put him to sleep when he doesn't for several days, the man himself even sings it to Amy to calm her nerves when she gets stressed about winning the Nobel. I think the song is more of a soother/ lullaby kinda thing to relax Sheldon/ others
Winning the Nobel is def sick!
That's a good point!
@@MsMojo hi Mojo! 😂
You do realise that Sheldon and his family moved from Galveston to Medford before the start of Young Sheldon; so maybe Sheldon and Missy had separate rooms then.
Tam was his only friend. Paige was more of a rival smart person. And she was more of Missy's friend. Also the dorm neighbors were not friends. They just allowed him to hang out with them to play videogames.
As for Dr Sturgis he doesn't mention him like he doesn't mention Dr Linkletter who made it possible for Sheldon to go to Germany.
And lastly Sheldon is a Dr. It takes a few years for him to get his doctorate degree. So he just never mentions it when he's given his timeline of events.
You could have replaced any of those above with the fact that Sheldon says Billy Sparks was one of his Bullies. So unless in season 7 Billy suddenly becomes a bully I would say that is a more glaring difference then any of the above things.
Oh and just because he was in the same room as Hawkins doesn't mean he met him. Maybe that's why hes so desperate to actually meet him
knowing sheldon being the narcissist that he is, there is NO way that he would not rub in the fact that hes seen hawkin irl
Another one is that in the Big Bang Theory Sheldon said his grandma was originally from Oklahoma. In young Sheldon she says she was born and raised in Texas.
Also she is very conservative in the BBT and wants Amy to quit her job to take care of Sheldon. It doesn't make sense at all.
I am convinced that Young Sheldon takes place in a parallel universe.
I gotta question your comic book logic. Just because older Sheldon recalls Batman and the Justice League from a young age does not necessarily mean that he enjoyed comics at that same young age. Young Sheldon might have watched Batman and/or the Justice League on 📺 yet chosen not to partake in reading Batman comic books.
Regarding the depiction of Sheldon's father, I heard a fan theory that is quite interesting. Put simply, Sheldon remembers his father as worse than he actually was because George wasn't ad coddling as Mary. George worked hard to try and get Sheldon prepared for the real world, while still being a loving father he wasn't afraid to put him foot down and have Sheldon handle stuff alone. Mary, while not a push over of course, is certainly shown to be much more of a coddler than George is.
And according to the theory, this skewed Sheldon's view of his childhood. Growing more close to his mom since the routine obsessed and change resistant Sheldon preferred Mary's coddling over George's preparing him for reality.
A lot of these can be easily explained by one simple fact: in TBBT, these stories are entirely from Sheldon’s perspective, while Young Sheldon actually shows what really happened. Just because Sheldon has an eidetic memory doesn’t mean he is incapable of embellishing the truth.
Or maybe the adult Sheldon narrating the prequel series has intentionally alrered most of the details of his early life because the reality was too cruel.
In YS Sheldon had an emergency operation to get his appendix out, but in TBBT he said that he still had his appendix (he changed his food groups, got bad stomach pain, but it was just a huge fart because of sprouts)
The fact that Doctor Sturgis mentioned being called an alien may be a reference to his actor Wallace Shawn being the leader of the Ferengi in "Star Trek: Deep Space 9".
unpopular opinion: young sheldon is much better than the big bang theory
It is
Agreed
One word, multiverse.
I have another one. In TBBT, Sheldon is always talking about his uncles, but in Young Sheldon, we've never met nor heard about any brothers for either Mary nor George.
Actually Memaw mentions that Mary was the only one of her kids still talking to her meaning there are others.
Also, I *like* most of the Young Sheldon series more than BBT. There were good moments throughout, but later season older Sheldon was almost unbearable sometimes.
Meanwhile, yes it bugged me when the cute lil brainiac started turning into a brat, but I still really like the stories and characters on YS. Esp the relationship between him and his dad. He's not a perfect man, but damn did he try, and he was a good father.
5:30: I think he was more annoyed to get constantly talked about his dorm.
He makes the schedule to create order which is contrasted by the inisitence
Young Sheldon is such a better show tho
Really? Every time I see parts of the show I don’t see a single joke being uttered in Young Sheldon well not a funny one at least
I agreee
Does any adult really remember all the intricate details of their childhood lives? Memories are a matter of perspective so what he says happened may not actually be how it really happened. That would explain why adult Sheldon remembers some details differently then how they actually played out in 'Young Sheldon'.
Unfortunately, Sheldon constantly reminds everyone that he has an idedic memory which obviously means he can recall any detail of his entire life down to the very minute and second of the day as he states.
An adult no, Sheldon? yes.
Your answer makes sense if you're not discussing the past of someone with a eidetic memory
ys is narrated by sheldon himself. it makes no sense that the same story told by the same person (with eidetic memory mind you) plays out differently
@@mikecotto1167 Sheldon could just be an unreliable narrator, though. Either the things he mentions in TBBT are fabricated to make his life more interesting, or Young Sheldon could be how he wishes his life had been and not how it actually was. Having an eidetic memory doesn't prevent somebody from lying or making up stories.
Another one is, in TBBT, he mentioned that he went to college when he was 5 but in YS, he goes there at age 11.
I don't think the comic book one is that big of a deal. Saturday morning cartoons were still must see t.v. in the 80's and 90's when YS takes place. It is very possible that Sheldon knew about X-Men and Batman through cartoons. He could have cut the Justice League card off the back of a cereal box or sent in for one from a postcard on a cereal box. He may have thought reading comic books was beneath him because they were not intellectually stimulating but then later changed his mind or maybe he didn't have the opportunity because the only things he could read were school related. Also most compulsive behaviors start small and then progressively gets worse. Sometimes it is a coping mechanism from a trauma like your house being destroyed or your father dying. It starts as a way control your environment. And lastly, being in the same room as Stephen Hawking is not the same as meeting him so it still makes sense that Sheldon would freak out about the chance to *finally* meet him after always being close but not close enough.
He was 12 when Batman The Animated Series was a thing
Young Sheldon he's a brat who always get his way. His parents shouldn't always give in to him. He really doesn't consider his siblings.
@@Mark-st1nm what does that have to do with getting a Justice League card?
@@thehufflepuffhermione nothing
@@thehufflepuffhermione i didn't know i was replying to you i just meant to post as a comment
To make Sheldon happy this is an alternate reality, life of Sheldon. Good thing this wasn't Wizard's First Rule, which was utterly a different story outside of the name of the characters.
And this is why prequels have so many problems sometimes. Writers don't look back to get it right
They also forgot about his mom and dad fighting all the time. When penny and Lenard fight Sheldon escapes to the comic book store cause the fighting gave him ptsd
The same episode you referred to “1:14” was also the series finale of season 6 really griped my nerves that I remembered that
In the view of a child things can get mixed up, Sheldon's father did drink, but in the mind of a child the amount he drank may not show the truth. Sheldon may only remember the bad times and not the good times.
Seeing Dr Stephen Hawking as a child is not meeting him.
Maybe Missy and Sheldon started sharing a room at age 9.
Mary acted like George had a drinking problem more than once.
Sheldon had a friend or two, but he at lunch in the library with Tam. I can see where he’d loosely call that “no friends”. Sheldon also may not have considered anyone not his intellectual equal as a friend, and then considered anyone his intellectual equal a competitor, leaving no one left that wasn’t in one of those two groups.
5:35 - The fact that Sheldon SAW Hawking at a lecture is not the same as MEETING him at Cal Tech. No different than watching someone in concert vs. actually meeting them somewhere & talking to them.
I'm 21 and I hardly remember most stuff about my childhood. It's quite possible that 27 yo Sheldon never mentions Sturgis simply because he might not have been a part of his life after Sheldon turned 13 or so. Same thing about sharing a room with Missy - they stopped that when they were 11/12 and Georgie moved out, so they still had quite a lot of time to make memories living in seperate rooms. I started the BBT/Young Sheldon thing from Young Sheldon, so I don't know how a BBT fan would react, but I think YS does a very good job as a prequel. Aside from a few not overly important things, the show didn't create any plotholes.
It is worthy of note that even before the prequel, Big Bang didn't have the best continuity; two big examples, both incidentally involving George;
In a late season episode, Sheldon states that his three knock habit was developed as a teen when he walked in on George having an affair; but in the episode that detailed how Leonard moved into the apartment, it is shown that he developed the habit when trying to gain entry to Leonard's room during the Joyce Kim incident.
Similarly in the last season, in the episode where Sheldon watches a video of Young Sheldon giving his future self a pep talk, only for George to have recorded over it. After watching George's own pep talk to his team, Sheldon makes a sports metaphor which he and Amy both claim was his first when in actuality he previously used a sports metaphor with the whole Three Strikes system in the season 1 episode detailing a feud between Sheldon and Penny.
George(Lance Barber) was also Leonard's bully in one episode of the Big Bang Theory.
Sheldon also did sport metaphor in YS :/ And in quite a lot of frst episodes, Sheldon knocked normally...
I think the main reason why George in Young Sheldon isn't portrayed as a alcoholic abusive dad is simply because Young Sheldon is more of a family/kids show and alcoholic/abusive just doesn't fit there. The same thing with Missy and Georgie being portrayed as childhood bullies in TBBT, but not in YS, it's just more family friendly.
Also, many people are complaining why Paige and dr. Sturgis aren't mentioned at all in TBBT, the answer is pretty obvious: TBBT was made y e a r s before YS, so the writers at the time probably had no idea that a series like YS will ever exist. Even tough YS first season and TBBT last season did air at the same time, I think at that point TBBT didn't bother because it would be weird to only mention it in the 12th and final season.
Of course, if I remember correctly, there are like two more seasons coming for YS, so maybe its gonna change a lot of the plot holes, but like with TBBT, it would be weird to push all those problems into the final season. I have also read that the writers (who are the same people who produced TBBT) regret some things they said about stuff in TBBT so they have already warned us its not gonna be completely factual.
In conclusion, the main problem why there are so many differences, is simple. TBBT was made years before and at the time, it was never considered that a show like YS might exist and ofc TBBT was first and foremost a comedy/sitcom and wasn't supposed to be that serious, in comparison to YS which is a family show and not exactly a comedy/sitcom with a constant laugh track.
exactly you are right idk why people don't understan such basic thing. and this was my explanation (initially there was never a plan for a prequel and when they made it so they also created new characters for the show that's why many of ys characters aren't mentioned in bbt.)
Exactly. It goes to show that conspiracies theorists are well and alive
Thank you. I have no idea why so many comments try to use Young Sheldon to accuse Sheldon from TBBT of lying or misremebering. Young Sheldon just retcons things to be a more family friendly show, it’s a simple concept
Some of these bother me but some like his friends & his dad’s drinking I tell myself in TBBT that was his perception of things. To him maybe his dad was an alcoholic and maybe he didn’t consider many as friends and more acquaintances. I was thinking about the Dr. Stirgus thing just last night.
His father didn't drink any more than Meemaw did and Sheldon has no recollections of her being drunk. In actuality, both Meemaw and Mary were show drunk but George has never been shown inebriated.
@@rocketmom60 but a child’s perception can be different. MeeMaw & Mary doted on Sheldon. George didn’t cater to him like them. So he would see his actions & drinking differently. He was a bit inebriated when he had the heart attack at the bar with Brenda. Remember Sheldon saw things way differently than others. He never realized that Georgie stepped up to take care of the family after George died. Everyone protected him from stuff. George was different from others. And he may have seen him differently than he actually was.
@@nita409 I do think Sheldon saw him differently than he really was. You are definitely right about that. I think adult Sheldon's memories of his father are tainted by the complete disdain he has for his father (and siblings), so he is not capable of giving his father credit for being as good a dad as we see in YS. Mary and Meemaw always catered to him so in his mind they were good while his father, Missy and Georgie were bad.
one thing that really bugs me in young sheldon is that they forgot to show us why sheldon knocks 3 times.. in tbbt, he said that he was his dad cheating when he was 13, but we never saw that... i don't know if they'll show that when he returns from germany or something, but yea
How is it not mentioned that Missy's personality is different between the two shows? That can't all be chalked up to character development and lack of screentime, right? And she even develops a Southern accent as an adult somehow?? It's my biggest gripe and the reason why I treat the two shows as separate because I really can't reconcile the difference.
Also in TBBT Sheldon sings "Soft Kitty" to Amy when she was upset over the pressures of winning a Nobel Prize. So I think emotional turmoil is part of the illness spectrum for him.
Any time you see something like that happen, a wizard did it
Also that Billy Sparks was described as a bully in TBBT but they're friendly to each other on Young Sheldon.
Another one I've mentioned before is it is weird sheldon didn't recognise Leonard's bully from the past on the big bang theory as it was the same actor who played is dad in young sheldon.
Another little fact to bring the shows together is that the ladies who play his mum on the big bang theory and young sheldon are mother and daughter in real life.
Why is it weird? The actor plays two completely different characters, Sheldon isn't supposed to recognize him. Also the fact that the episode was made way before Young Sheldon.
I wonder why Tam just stops showing up after Season four of the spinoff, when he was Sheldon's only friend, and isn't so much as mentioned. At least we know he eventually appears in the parent series as an adult.
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It's a prequel not a spinoff.
Probably cause he was a high school friend.
Well, I got a theory on it: the show "Young Sheldon" is not actually based on the real Sheldon but was made by Sheldon himself. It is like a show in the universe of the Big Bang Theory made by Sheldon. There is evidence proving it; once we got induced to a bully of Lenoerd, who looked like Sheldon's dad, but Sheldon did not even notice or mention it. I think Sheldon gave him his dad's role in the "Young Sheldon" show. This show is a biopic of Sheldon's young age, made by him. This explains every error: the errors are not errors but the writer modified a story a bit. Thus the show "Young sheldon" is a in universe show from big bang theory which is biopic of the childhood of sheldon. "I always listen to myself. It's one of the great joys of my life" ~Sheldon Cooper
He also sings soft kitty to georgie's baby in season 6
Another thing that doesn’t make any sense is that Georgie has a child in the early 90s and yet his daughter doesn’t attend her Uncle Sheldon’s wedding in 2018. By that time she would be 25 years old.
Meemaw wasn't at the Wedding either.
She barely knows her Uncle and can't be expected to drop everything to attend a wedding in California.
There’s quite a few people he never talks about. He never mentioned sturgis, linkletter or his high school friend Tam. I don’t think he’s ever mentioned his niece Constance either though I think he’d mentioned Mandy as his sister in law
because initially there was never a plan for a prequel and when they made it so they also created new characters for the show that's why many of ys characters aren't mentioned in bbt.
Regarding schedules and rules, didn’t young Sheldon create a relationship agreement with Meemaw and either Dr. Sturgis or Craig Nelson’s character (Ballard?). Also, when Georgie moved into the garage young Sheldon drew up an agreement, between Georgie and their parents.
Started watching TBBT when I was 10..... Honestly Young Sheldon isn't what I thought it would be
#1 Young Sheldon is better than TBBT 😘😜
I could definitely be wrong about this (and it could just be a fan theory). But I think I read somewhere that Young Sheldon is considered more of an alternate version of Sheldon than an actual prequel.
And I believe reason for this was to give creators more freedom.
As a TBBT fan I refused to watch Young Sheldon from the start, when I Saw discrepancies such as the fact that his parents great relationship instead of his mum cursing him and his father cheating on her.
Their relationship isn’t great and I do think they are building up to the cheating part of it all, based on the recent season.
You know... relationships that have cheating happen aren't all bad from the beginning right? That's a very childish point of view. Also George Sr. deserves to have some good character traits. The cheating does happen but its an *emotional* affair, and Mary has one too. I adore TBBT, but refusing to watch another show that is based off a character of a previous one because of "discrepancies" is just childish. Even Sheldon with his eidetic memory can't remember things objectively. What we hear from him in the TBBT series are events from his point of view and colored by his perception. What we see in the show is an objective point of view. FFS. Grow up.
There’s a part in season 1 of ys where older Sheldon says Georgie had his first kid when he was 19.
The characters in Young Sheldon not mentioned in TBBT are clearly dead -- dead to Sheldon, with his selective perfect memory, anyway. This wasn't possible with his father and grandfather, because they were actual family. This explanation does raise the question of when Sheldon as narrator-Sheldon is narrating from. It also makes me sad about the likely fate of Paige -- she is the character with whom I most identify.
#6, Sheldon likes making schedules, but he doesn't like interacting with people.
That's the Problem when a Sequel takes place before a Prequel. many contradictions which makes not much sense.
The answer to all of these "discrepancies" boil down to one thing: an unreliable narrator. Think about your own childhood, and then go ask your parents or older siblings their thoughts about the same instances. Sheldon on TBBT has coloured his own views of the past. For example, he was hurt by his dad's behavior and, worse, he saw his mom hurt by him, and he turned his father into a monster in his own memories.
He enjoyed making the schedule. He didn't enjoy people calling him to sign up for times.
Dr. Sturgis was dating Meemaw, maybe he is Poppop
In fact, there are a huge number of inconsistencies between these two series, but I read somewhere that the creators themselves understand this and they explain this by the fact that YS is an alternative reality to the main series. According to the descriptions from TBBT, the series would have been terribly dark with not very pleasant characters, and had to be rewritten.
That was pretty obvious and why I never watched YS. It sounds insane, but Sheldon describing his dad being angry at his brother for stealing his "driving whiskey" is hilarious to hear, but it's horrifying to actually see play out. "Driving whiskey" is a funny phrase, a man going apeshit because on his kids because his whiskey is gone is tragic.
I hated that Sheldon never even mentioned Dr. Sturges in the series finale episode of The Big Bang Theory.
Sheldon created a Flashpoint
As a kid in the 80s, superheroes were everywhere. You didn't have to read Comics to have superhero related stuff. The 60s Batman TV show played on reruns all the time and I used to watch it everyday. I also watched reruns of Wonder Woman and had Wonder Woman Underoos. Never read a comic.
At the time that Sheldon sang Soft Kitty to himself, he had a broken arm. As we know, being hurt is a kind of sick🙂
Also, Billy Sparks was often described by Sheldon in "The Big Bang Theory" as a horrible bully, but in "Young Sheldon", he is not a bad kid. In fact, I love Billy.
Leonard and Penny sing soft kitty once to Sheldon when he's really really tired, not sick.
I didn’t watch much of TBBT, but it seems that adult Sheldon turns to jelly whenever Mary gives him orders. But in Young Sheldon, he acts as superior to her as he does to everyone els
Maybe older Sheldon doesn't consider those others as friends, just acquaintance's. And he claims to have an eidetic memory, but on more than one occasion he realizes he has made a mistake so perhaps he is faulty on his truth. I think the deal with Sturgis is that he cut Sheldon off because of the time he interfered with his book and contacted his colleges about it.
"Make no Sense" - or just retcons. There were plenty in TBBT itself, so no wonder the writes ignored some aspects to make more compelling stories for YS. Or try to do so...
I have to disagree with #9, all I see the dad drink on the show is beer, IMO that is an alcoholic. He yells a lot and drinks a lot. To a young child whose memory could amplify the negatives years later, I could easily see him remembering his father that way.
Season one also has the inconsistency of Sheldon not knocking 3 times.
10. Maybe his mother just said that as an excuse
9. Sheldon just said it because he did not want the emotions of the song.
6. His personality could have changed! When he was little, he might not liked schedules yet, but he already liked statistics and keeping close track of e.g. his bowel movements...
For the first one, this might be an example of Sheldon’s narcissism or self-importance. The reason Mary would go back to Texas was because (as we now know) Connie’s house was destroyed by a tornado. To Sheldon, however, this may seem like just a minor inconvenience. It wasn’t important in his mind. It wasn’t as devastating. He doesn’t really care what actually happened
You missed the most frustrating part
Sheldon’s dad appeared in big bang theory as one of Leonard’s childhood bullies and the put the same actor to play as Sheldon’s dad in young sheldon
So in the show Young Sheldon, when it comes to the twins sharing a room, it is said that they moved to the house in Young Sheldon after George was fired from his last job. This was in the first episode. They could have had separate rooms in the old house, but were forced share rooms in the new house
Personally, I have no issues with the fact that the childhood in YS is not as bleak as TBBT portrayed. There wouldn't have been much humor or much sense in watching the show if Sheldon's childhood was portrayed exactly the same way as he laid out in TBBT. YS is its own show and the writers said early on they were not going to be beholden to all the claims the character made in TBBT. Just because Sheldon remembers it that way doesn't mean it's true or accurate. Sheldon remembers himself as being patient, nurturing, and "suffering in silence" with his roommate Leonard and his other friends on TBBT. And hell, some of what Sheldon says about his youth in early seasons of TBBT contradicts what he says in later seasons, *before* YS was ever on the air.
These are wacky sitcoms, guys; they aren't supposed to be held to any standards of continuity.
for the age discrepancy, i think its prolly for getting his doctorate?
i’m still confused why sheldon refers to the chicken incident as “miss riley’s chicken” when it was the sparks family???
If Sheldon was so smart. He would have known this when he was narrating. :)
My only problem is that he's supposed to have an eidentic memory?? No? So him recalling moments in his life should be identical to what actually happens.... When where and probably why as well let alone who was there.....? So why is all this so different
Truly this is the only reason why young Sheldon don't make sense to me parallel world theories and all this ain't right
But people only think that cause he said he does. But there is no price of it. But his friend never challenge him on anything he says.
@@albertelnen9144 so hes a compulsive liar LMAO BRILLIANT
Or his identical memory is how he remembers it and not so much what actually happens or he is a lies alot or he is just flat out crazy most super genius are 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@UmbreonMoonlight If he truly had an eidetic memory, he would not be remembering things inaccurately. Either he doesn't truly have an eidetic memory, or he is a liar.
@@rocketmom60 or he dose have a eidetic memory and he just lies all the time
Well, don't overthink it. The main reason there are things contradicting YS with TBBT is because YS series was not anticipated until Jim Parsons suggested it near the end of TBBT. When they start producing YS, of course there are some things that they can relate to TBBT, but some things are not. Just brush it off.
For #10 in the pilot episode they mentioned they moved to East Texas from Galveston because the dad lost his job in Galveston. Their Galveston house could have been on cinder blocks and ergo washed away during a hurricane but the timeline would still be off