So today i talk you through the plan for the fiesta and wether or not im going to keep it.. Enjoy! Business - savagegaragebusiness@gmail.com Music - TH-cam Audio Library
chris macleod I’ll give you that, but there is patching over and there’s fabricating metal parts and seam welding, but if you approach the job with the right attitude it can be rewarding, I remember my splatter and burn throughs but it came good with practice. And he has the perfect opportunity and I think he’ll make a good job of it.
@@chrismacleod3947 I saw some Mercedes 'expert' in the USA fix holes in his car with fibreglass sheets & some fancy anti-rust paint (not available here)....so there are ways to bodge it that could 'probably' pass an MOT. It's good to see him willing to learn a new skill...and I wish him luck (& hope he has fun welding). I'm sure one of us subscribers will help him out if he hits a roadblock. But he's a clever bloke & will find a way to get it done I expect.
Take it to his dad's place stick it on trailer if wanted to. But sounds like he wants to do the engine bits over winter and learn welding fair enough init. 🤔
@@paulyh4531 Finding somewhere to weld (or practice) could be an issue. A wooden shed probably isn't ideal. Welding equipment also takes up quite a bit of space. But I suppose we will discover how he tackles it over the coming months.
I've owned two of these and used to be a club rep for the owners club, this car is what made me find your channel. So happy you've chosen to save it, it's a future classic for sure. Keep up the good work and good luck with the welding 👍
And just to add - the amount of work ahead must look daunting with the engine rebuild on top of all this, and I'm sure this doesn't mean much, but you're doing something very worthwhile. Hopefully this inspires more people to take on some maintenance themselves. Long live the Mk 5 ZS 🤞
Good choice, take a 3 in 1 welder, TIG & MIG, only negative is you need 2 bottles gas...Follow Jody (weldingtipsandtrick) en within 2 week you lay down dimes , GL James! ;)
Personally I would scrap but I understand why your wanting to save it but If it’s just gonna keep costing more than it’s worth no point if parts for it would cost more than it would fetch if you would sell but if your gonna keep it then that won’t worry you but I think it’s a no go car but good luck to you in welding it I scrapped a 2000 reg Renault Clio it didn’t have a single spot of rust everything worked apart from the clutch had gone the car was worth about £500 it needed £1000 spending on when fixed would be worth around £650 so spending £350 more than it’s worth wasn’t worth it so had to sadly say good bye as that £1000 could be a deposit to go towards a newer car and it did I bought a newer Renault Clio MK3 5 dr black automatic 2008 (58) and that’s just my personal opinion and I only say this because I’ve watched the video before posting the comment and the car is absolutely full of rust but as I said good luck to you personally I would just concentrate on the BMW it’s a beautiful car
Wouldn't be surprised if that underseal actually made it worse. People usually apply it when rust is allready there, and this is the nuclear bomb in rust from my experience, as the underseal traps moisture and the rust gets 1000 times worse. Had this on a second hand focus, and tought oh well...it was looked after. Untill I started flaking the underseal to find holes I could punch trough :))
Probably loads of Mk1 and Mk2 Fiesta XR2s ended up in the scrap yard 20 years ago for the same reason. Looking at the prices they fetch these days youd be mad to scrap your Zetec S.
I personally think you are opening a can of worms, a lot of the rot you show is going to be structural and the welding is going to have to be A1 to pass an MOT. Sorry to be negative.but this could cost you a lot of money.👍
Don’t want to sound like welding police but be careful doing it in that shed. I’ve had many years experience and that shed is a proper fire hazard. Might pay to learn somewhere else.
hi James I have been watching your channel have you decided on the ford fiesta and how or if you are fixing it welding I mean , I just mite be able to help if you are not to far away from me I have about 35 years experience welding cars if this helps you contact me
Whats happend with the fiesta did you fix it ..would be grate if you did a update on it we are just about to say good buy to our mk5 been in the family for 19 years but way to far gone to fix the rust sills gone inner and out rear chassis rails dont exist any more 6 holes in drivers foot well 5 in passager side and loads along wear the floor meets the sill sad times but would cost 2.5k to get back to road worthy condition. Shame I can not put the pictures on hear how bad it is after prodding and poking it .
If you want a welder mate - i'd check out one of those Clarke ones in Machinemart. They seem ok for DIY use and they sell those small "hobby bottles" of gas. I'm sure RetroRestore uses one. Word of advice mate - some of these "underseal" products have the habit of trapping salt and moisture against the metal. So the underseal might look good on the outside but underneath it will be rusty as fuck. If you are going to strip everything off i'd go back to bare metal and paint with some sort of 2K epoxy or zinc based primer. I have a garage mate and its so cold i'm getting fed up of working in there! I'm actually treating the rust on my Toyota at the moment. Been grinding and sandblasting back to bare metal and painting it with Jotun 87 (its an epoxy primer/mastic) and i'm going to spray Dinatrol in the cavities.
Because its worthless? It's like car/bike mechanics courses. They teach you how to be a fitter not build, manufacture and adapt. I 'aced' my MIG and even I think my MIG welding is messy but I failed my arc and I'm far more proficient with stick welding. Plus most tutors think oxy/Acet welding is gluing metals together. Plus the welders used in most colleges are a couple of grand a pop, they're nothing like MIG's most people would buy for £200 or £300
@@TheMentalblockrock I do a lot of fabricating in tool builds, it wasn't a skill I was taught it was trial and error. Besides James says he's selling the mini because he needs the money, why spend cash on a course when you can get every basic you need from TH-cam and put it into practice in your own time in your own workshop experimenting through trial and error? As with anything it's all down to practice, practice and more practice which can't be taught in a college. All you're doing it going to a place, (or paying to go to a place in the instance of a college course), to *practice* . Buying a few sheets of metal and using them to practice on is far cheaper than going to college.
@@TheMentalblockrock Mustie1 is good at what he does...I doubt he would class himself as a 'restorer'...he's an excellent bodger though. He also has the engineering skills required to create something new that has mechanical integrity.
@@TheMentalblockrock Oh come on dude, there's a few good one out there too. Part of the learning curve is seeing what's out there an learning from the mistakes others make or learning how not to do something. As for bodging, we all do it at times, even the best of us.
@@TheMentalblockrock You actually think college teaches you properly??? 😂😂😂😂😂 You're hilarious mate. My tutor was "teaching" us how to replace a clutch on a motorcycle and wonder why the bolt snapped when he torqued it up then I explained you have to partly torque *ALL* the bolts up in sequence turning up the torque wrench in increments as you go. Now this was a guy who worked for Ford, had been a tutor for 15+ years and didn't know this fundamental basic and he was supposed to be teaching us not me teaching him. It got to the point when the others got stuck they came to me for help and advice not the tutor yet he was being paid £90 an hour to teach the course.
Glad to Hear your going to learn how to weld BUT i wouldn't do any welding in your WOODEN shed unless your thinking of getting a NEW SHED, LOL you will be warm in your shed over the winter if your thinking of welding in it... BUY PLENTY OF FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, JUST FIT A NEW REAR VALANCE
Best decision, welding is really useful sometimes when repairing cars. Also is kinda hard to weld on thin rusted metal, so all that time practicing is needed! Good luck
Tough decision, and a lot of work! My advice would be to avoid gasless welders and buy a welder that will last ( you don't want to have to buy another, better one in a years time!). Also don't be temped to weld up-side-down until you are a fully accomplished welder. Get the shell as light as possible and get it on it's side, either on a roller jig or on an old mattress. Love the channel, and it has actually inspired me to start my own channel. Thanks
James I must tell you this if you leave the car uncovered during the winter then it will be way worse when you revisit the project. My advice is to either build an impromptu garage/shelter over the car to protect it as much as possible
Be very careful welding in your shed it’s wood that’s all I’m going to say on that well done for taking the time to learn get plenty of off cuts from eBay that’s what I did or get some 1mm mild steal from the same place looking forward to seeing your up and coming videos don’t worry about mistakes whilst you’re learning get it right then you’ll be fine work on the cars
From the other and the Real side this car is so rotten it doesnt pay off welding it I can only say this car is ready for junkyard but i respect his thing to Learn welding and trying to Save the car!
harryvision toys and trains all the bits will bolt on to any 3dr mk5 fiesta, there’s still quite a few about. I don’t think it would be too hard to find one with less rust.
Glad your giving it a go bud. Think you've just convinced me to save my golf. Been a few years now since I done any welding so looking forward to this one alot 👋😁👍
Whatever you do don't cheap out on your mig welder. I have just started mig welding and the rtech 180 is a lovely machine. I've been welding thin stainless with it without issue. Cheap welder will make a mess and burn holes through everything. I've had mine 4 weeks and I'm already making a custom exhaust with it. Plus the option of spool gun means you can do aluminium
all you welding as to be all the way round any plate you fit and when done paint it with hammer right or some other type of paint do not cover it in under seal till after mot so tester can see the welds you can check out the requirements re welding corrosion at direct.gov mot standards AT THE END OF THE DAY THE WELDING SHOULD BE AS STRONG AS IT WAS WHEN MADE YOUR DRIVING THE CAR AND IN A COLLISION YOU WANT TO BE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE
Hi James, thats funny. In summer 2019 I rescued my Fiesta MK4 too. I couldn't weld and learned it with this project. I had the same rusty parts. In the end I replaced both sills, which was very interesting work to do. If you have any questions or need pics just ask me ;)
You've made the right decision to save it. It is the perfect opportunity to learn how to weld. This is a skill I need to improve on myself. I have a MIG welder and the use of a garage as well as a car that is need of welding (the Triumph Dolomite). Something you can do straight away is to cut out all that rust. The angle grinder is your friend. With a selection grinding wheels, cutting wheels, flap discs and a knotted wire wheel it will make short work of the rust. Once you're back to clean solid metal get some weld-through primer on to protect it.
IF you can find a new floor pan, that would be best bet!!!! Because otherwise i can assure Rust will be back in the floor pan!!!! The thing with a rust hole is that it is at least twice the size you see, you need to cut out ALL bad metal ( discoloured ) around the hole, RUST NEVER SLEEPS, yes you can slow it down but the ONLY way to kill off is to cut ALL RUST OUT!!!!
I'm bidding on a 2014 Fiesta. 3 days to go on the auction and it has 50,000 on it but the engine light is on which is a concern. I'm thinking it should be OK due to the mileage and it seems to run fine.
There’s a good chance that there’s a hole in the top of the petrol tank near the filler or at least some rust. I got a new OEM quality tank sent from Germany for about £65 for mine. Not the end of the world and the way to go if rust has taken hold on the tank! Good video and you seem one of the better UK rebuild guys. I imagine you’ve watched Goonzquad somewhere along the line though😂👍
Best advice I can give James don't buy a cheap welder will make it harder to learn Clark have a good reputation had my 150te turbo for years mate machine mart is a good place to go
Avoid flux core welders - especially the A/C only ones. They take a huge amount of learning and even then blow holes far too easily in thin sheet. Get a decent AC/DC gas MIG (you will mostly use DC) and if it has TIG as well then all the better. Having started the learning curve I can say from experience that TIG is preferable once you get the hang of it. Watch Trevs Blog for tips and tricks ! Above all persevere - your first welds will be horrible but it gets better quick. Enjoy and good luck.
When you rebuild the engine you can "index" the spark plugs.... It's basically where you get a permanent marker or tipex and Mark the "open" gap side of the plug... Then unscrew/screw them in until they're threaded so that the open gap roughly faces the intake valves... ....it helps ensure a clean burn (which might add 1 or 2 bhp) but more importantly means easier starting in the cold. 👌
I'm sure you've already been told by whoever is helping you get your welder. But when it comes to welding cars, make sure you use 0.8 mm wire otherwise you will burn through the steel non-stop. Also, as someone who's done rust repair on a few cars before.. Best thing you will ever do is getting underneath it sandblasted. You may as well do it while it's a bare shell. I wish I did it on my MK2 Golf before I started repairing the rust on the floorpan. It's best to get all the nasty surprises out of the way all at once and it will save you hours with a wire brush taking off underseal in preparation of welding it.
Hi there, Cromwell tools would be glad to provide you with a welder. We could even organise some welding advice for you!! Please get in touch with Leigh Maidment. I have emailed you. Thanks.
Look into a company called Buzzweld for any coatings, I've used their products for a number of years. Their Rust Encapsulator and chassis in one paints are amazing
We have the same car.. bought it for £500 3 yrs ago.. done 40,000 miles in it so far.. I bought my welder for around £100 and saved many cars with it. Its an essential piece of kit!
It's quite strange regarding the "Male" psychie ! I've always had a desire to keep a car on the road. I have a 2005 alfa romeo 147, which against all odds, is a fantasticly reliable 15 year old car, and I spent some money having welding done for its MOT, I just couldn't part with it . Had the work done, and its absolutely perfect. Many people wouldn't waste a penny on an alfa, but I can say with honesty, that this car has never let me down, even on the coldest of mornings. Just fitted some leather seats, and I'm loving driving her !
You will find you can blow holes right through the thin metal especially we’re it joins. So get a joggler panel tool on eBay and this will save so many hours of headaches. Just you tube the tool and you will se what I mean
Make sure you get a quality one..I had two Laser tools Jogglers off fleabay...they were as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike...both of them broke on 1mm steel only got about 2" done before they broke....best ones are the pnumatic one...👍👍👍
There's many a BMW E34 owner wishing they could take their side skirts off and see no rust... I'm one of them :( Good on you for saving this car and your positive attitude, and for learning to weld!
Practice on the fiesta. Welding inst hard just need good preparation unless you are welding above you :-). Make sure u cut out to good metal dont try to weld on rusty surface!. If you make a mistake just cut it out / grind it off and go again. Get some flap discs for your grinder. Get a 200A + Mig or TIG.
Strip the car completely and manufacture a roll over jig. www.rolloverjigs.com/ use the idea from the website to make your own. Absolutely the best aid for welding. Good luck!
I haven't watched the full video yet James! (If I'm wrong I'll edit this comment) A Arc/stick welder wouldn't be very difficult to use on the car, a MIG welder would be best to use but don't get a gas-less MIG the welds are basically made of cheese!
Have a look at Pete C's you tube channel ( Cortina restoration), he has a whole library of videos which cover Welding, Fabrication and a lot more. Different car but the principle is the same. He is really knowledgeable, might be worth reaching out and get some advice.
I have two mig welders. of the two I much prefer the one that takes a Co2/Argon mix gas bottle, Although you can get away with using just a Co2 bottle, I got my large one from a mate that runs a pub & lasts for ages !,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The gas-less one i find a bit awkward to seam weld with no matter how I have the settings. Hope this helps. Oh & be prepared for little holes to become big holes by the time you clean it all up !.
Good luck james, try and see if you can get a night course at your local college in welding as its always a bonus. Its about time you got a couple of sponsors to help fund your channel as rebuilding the fiesta is going to cost you a small fortune. Especially the welding machine, I'm hoping someone see's this who reps for the big names in welding industry and approaches you and help fund your project. Get a pull out gazebo, allot of car detailers use them during this kind of weather and get a good quality one , ask around the car detailers on TH-cam, OCD details has bought one recently and its five minutes to put up . Get the fiests under cover with tiapauline and bungie ropes , but before you do . Try and get a dry day wash the car and then once dry give it a couple coats of wax , this will help protect the paint and slow down any more deterioration . Spray the interior exposed metal with any good rust preventing paint so it helps give it a barrier during the winter . Sounds a bit mad , but it will be a safe precaution. My dad this to his Mk3 Ford Transit LWB Van in the late 80's and it lasted through to 1996 , before he had to do any welding. Hope this helps. Good luck mate 🤞😉
Nice one dude good decision that cars is well worth saving and it’s not so bad really . once you can weld you’ll fly through that . I absolutely love these cars this cars gonna be beautiful when you’ve finished 👌👍
Can you get a welding equipment supplier to 'donate' some semi-professional equipment...you can then show idiots like us how to use their equipment to weld our cars too. Good luck...hope you have fun.
Wise decision, James. It shows you're not afraid to learn new skills. Just take yre time and it all be ok. Once the project is finished ,the satisfying is tremendously, cos it all done by yourself!!!!
Hi buddy, im in the EXACT same place but with a Mk 4 and im a lot older so cold is my worst enemy! My only guidance is learn to stick weld before you start mig or tig, Get yourself a cheap little MMA stick welder and have some fun before you plunge into the more expensive side of welding
I welded rust damage, without any experience what so ever, on an old Volvo 745 that was basically just waiting for the scrap yard. Floors, spare wheel, wheel archs, frame, rocker panel, engine bay, you name it. It passed inspection and I even got praise from the inspector. Kinda scary at first when you read about fire and what not but it's just like putting legos together. Hardest thing in the beginning is to learn how to bend the metal to fit the rust damaged area and learning how the weld works so that you don't burn through and other issues, and most of all, thinking positive thoughts because it'll get boring very quickly and feels like it'll never end haha.
Happy about your decision Mate 💪 cheers have a good weekend and greetings from Germany 😄 Oh and Im looking forward to your merch 🙈 Christmas present for myself 🙈
get your self a ''gas mig'' and you will learn very easy ,just clean/sand back to clean metal everything all the rust paint oil ect and you wont go wrong mig is the easiest if your clean gas mig doesnt like contamination at all it will cause porosity like a aero chocolate bar bubbles and makes the weld very weak and would a failed test,, i would say go and do a short corse you wont regret it and because you are doing cars its best to know the correct safe way and for its MOT ;-)
The best decision James. These cars are getting rarer and need saving. I have done a bit of welding many years ago, I was given the task of welding up the floor of an old MK2 Transit, I was quite proud of my achievement.So never say never, be patient and do it properly. You will look back at this car in years to come and say " I saved that from the scrapper".
Why not continue with the learning curve, if you love working on cars then why not? Like you say learning to weld leads to other things. Some are buying smashed up cars from Coparts at a bargain price, fixing them up mechanically or bodily, then either keeping them or making a profit selling them on. Job satisfaction putting an unroadworthy car back on the road.
I just recently taught myself to weld. One of the front subframe bolts on my mk3 mondeo started spinning, had to cut the front chassis leg open to get at it. I was absolutley shitting myself to cut it. now she's welded up an passed MOT. If im honest i thought you were gonna scap it. So happy to hear you'll be giving it a go. Wish you the best of luck.
Nice one learning to weld first lesson for you. Welding causes sparks and heat your shed is wood and has a sofa and other combustible things. BAD IDEA learning in shed the sparks could smoulder . Shame your not more local to me couple hours and i would have you welding.
I just punched a hole in my Fiesta while attempting to clean up the Vin number. Why on earth did they put in I'm the floor where the lowest point is. I can't simply weld the floor because of that number.... 😕
yes James! learn to weld. this can help amateurs like myself to learn to weld from scratch.
Any progress James any more fiesta vids soon
why does everybody comment just to say first? bunch of bully bummers
. honestly its like watching mongs lick windows but on youtube.
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Give welding a go and if at the end it’s still not fit to MOT at least you’ve learnt to weld.
chris macleod I’ll give you that, but there is patching over and there’s fabricating metal parts and seam welding, but if you approach the job with the right attitude it can be rewarding, I remember my splatter and burn throughs but it came good with practice. And he has the perfect opportunity and I think he’ll make a good job of it.
@@chrismacleod3947 I saw some Mercedes 'expert' in the USA fix holes in his car with fibreglass sheets & some fancy anti-rust paint (not available here)....so there are ways to bodge it that could 'probably' pass an MOT. It's good to see him willing to learn a new skill...and I wish him luck (& hope he has fun welding). I'm sure one of us subscribers will help him out if he hits a roadblock. But he's a clever bloke & will find a way to get it done I expect.
Usually when a repair is more than the value of the car, it’s time to sell or scrap it
@@chrismacleod3947 was thinking the very same 🤔🤣
@@forza223bowe5 unless there's valuable u tube content to be had!
Buy yourself a pop up gazebo god send when the weather is crap
A car porch...or preferably a big garage...somewhere dry & warm.
@@Sean006 I wish they would let me build either but rented property so I can't
Take it to his dad's place stick it on trailer if wanted to. But sounds like he wants to do the engine bits over winter and learn welding fair enough init. 🤔
@@paulyh4531 Finding somewhere to weld (or practice) could be an issue. A wooden shed probably isn't ideal. Welding equipment also takes up quite a bit of space. But I suppose we will discover how he tackles it over the coming months.
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Where is the rest of the Fiesta videos? The rebuild of the zetec then? Any news at all?
Yay look at scrapyards you may be lucky and find a solid floor 🤣😂🤣😂 then just cut it out and weld it in yours
Massive kudos to you mate, you've taught yourself so much over the time I've subscribed to your channel. Keep up the good work!
I've owned two of these and used to be a club rep for the owners club, this car is what made me find your channel. So happy you've chosen to save it, it's a future classic for sure. Keep up the good work and good luck with the welding 👍
And just to add - the amount of work ahead must look daunting with the engine rebuild on top of all this, and I'm sure this doesn't mean much, but you're doing something very worthwhile. Hopefully this inspires more people to take on some maintenance themselves. Long live the Mk 5 ZS 🤞
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I was a member of zsoc mk 5 zs 1.7 racing puma engine reg x471wgl
Good choice, take a 3 in 1 welder, TIG & MIG, only negative is you need 2 bottles gas...Follow Jody (weldingtipsandtrick) en within 2 week you lay down dimes , GL James! ;)
Personally I would scrap but I understand why your wanting to save it but If it’s just gonna keep costing more than it’s worth no point if parts for it would cost more than it would fetch if you would sell but if your gonna keep it then that won’t worry you but I think it’s a no go car but good luck to you in welding it I scrapped a 2000 reg Renault Clio it didn’t have a single spot of rust everything worked apart from the clutch had gone the car was worth about £500 it needed £1000 spending on when fixed would be worth around £650 so spending £350 more than it’s worth wasn’t worth it so had to sadly say good bye as that £1000 could be a deposit to go towards a newer car and it did I bought a newer Renault Clio MK3 5 dr black automatic 2008 (58) and that’s just my personal opinion and I only say this because I’ve watched the video before posting the comment and the car is absolutely full of rust but as I said good luck to you personally I would just concentrate on the BMW it’s a beautiful car
I believe welding near the fuel line and the petrol tank is bad for your health and near the wiring loom is bad for the car. 😃
Wouldn't be surprised if that underseal actually made it worse. People usually apply it when rust is allready there, and this is the nuclear bomb in rust from my experience, as the underseal traps moisture and the rust gets 1000 times worse. Had this on a second hand focus, and tought oh well...it was looked after. Untill I started flaking the underseal to find holes I could punch trough :))
Probably loads of Mk1 and Mk2 Fiesta XR2s ended up in the scrap yard 20 years ago for the same reason. Looking at the prices they fetch these days youd be mad to scrap your Zetec S.
I personally think you are opening a can of worms, a lot of the rot you show is going to be structural and the welding is going to have to be A1 to pass an MOT. Sorry to be negative.but this could cost you a lot of money.👍
Don’t want to sound like welding police but be careful doing it in that shed. I’ve had many years experience and that shed is a proper fire hazard. Might pay to learn somewhere else.
hi James I have been watching your channel have you decided on the ford fiesta and how or if you are fixing it welding I mean , I just mite be able to help if you are not to far away from me I have about 35 years experience welding cars if this helps you contact me
Whats happend with the fiesta did you fix it ..would be grate if you did a update on it we are just about to say good buy to our mk5 been in the family for 19 years but way to far gone to fix the rust sills gone inner and out rear chassis rails dont exist any more 6 holes in drivers foot well 5 in passager side and loads along wear the floor meets the sill sad times but would cost 2.5k to get back to road worthy condition. Shame I can not put the pictures on hear how bad it is after prodding and poking it .
Have you watched Pete C’s Cortina restoration videos?
If you want a welder mate - i'd check out one of those Clarke ones in Machinemart. They seem ok for DIY use and they sell those small "hobby bottles" of gas. I'm sure RetroRestore uses one.
Word of advice mate - some of these "underseal" products have the habit of trapping salt and moisture against the metal. So the underseal might look good on the outside but underneath it will be rusty as fuck. If you are going to strip everything off i'd go back to bare metal and paint with some sort of 2K epoxy or zinc based primer.
I have a garage mate and its so cold i'm getting fed up of working in there! I'm actually treating the rust on my Toyota at the moment. Been grinding and sandblasting back to bare metal and painting it with Jotun 87 (its an epoxy primer/mastic) and i'm going to spray Dinatrol in the cavities.
Why not sign up for a course in welding at your local college?
Because its worthless? It's like car/bike mechanics courses. They teach you how to be a fitter not build, manufacture and adapt. I 'aced' my MIG and even I think my MIG welding is messy but I failed my arc and I'm far more proficient with stick welding. Plus most tutors think oxy/Acet welding is gluing metals together. Plus the welders used in most colleges are a couple of grand a pop, they're nothing like MIG's most people would buy for £200 or £300
@@TheMentalblockrock I do a lot of fabricating in tool builds, it wasn't a skill I was taught it was trial and error. Besides James says he's selling the mini because he needs the money, why spend cash on a course when you can get every basic you need from TH-cam and put it into practice in your own time in your own workshop experimenting through trial and error? As with anything it's all down to practice, practice and more practice which can't be taught in a college. All you're doing it going to a place, (or paying to go to a place in the instance of a college course), to *practice* . Buying a few sheets of metal and using them to practice on is far cheaper than going to college.
@@TheMentalblockrock Mustie1 is good at what he does...I doubt he would class himself as a 'restorer'...he's an excellent bodger though. He also has the engineering skills required to create something new that has mechanical integrity.
@@TheMentalblockrock Oh come on dude, there's a few good one out there too. Part of the learning curve is seeing what's out there an learning from the mistakes others make or learning how not to do something. As for bodging, we all do it at times, even the best of us.
@@TheMentalblockrock You actually think college teaches you properly??? 😂😂😂😂😂 You're hilarious mate. My tutor was "teaching" us how to replace a clutch on a motorcycle and wonder why the bolt snapped when he torqued it up then I explained you have to partly torque *ALL* the bolts up in sequence turning up the torque wrench in increments as you go. Now this was a guy who worked for Ford, had been a tutor for 15+ years and didn't know this fundamental basic and he was supposed to be teaching us not me teaching him. It got to the point when the others got stuck they came to me for help and advice not the tutor yet he was being paid £90 an hour to teach the course.
Love the lest we forget flag man. Massive respect
WTF is going on with this Fiesta????? 6 months now and no word..... Really poor...
john higginbotham if you wanna buy all the parts for me I’ll start working on it this week
@@TheSavageGarage Fair enough, but at least keep the viewers up to date with it...
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Great news, can forgive you now for the 1 series!! 😂
Nearly quit the channel when he brought that 😂
Glad to Hear your going to learn how to weld BUT i wouldn't do any welding in your WOODEN shed unless your thinking of getting a NEW SHED, LOL you will be warm in your shed over the winter if your thinking of welding in it... BUY PLENTY OF FIRE EXTINGUISHERS, JUST FIT A NEW REAR VALANCE
I agree
TRY IMPERIAL PANELS I HAVE USED THEM IN THE PAST ALWAYS BEEN VERY GOOD
@thesavagegarage what has happened to the fiesta we have had no updates ?
Best decision, welding is really useful sometimes when repairing cars. Also is kinda hard to weld on thin rusted metal, so all that time practicing is needed! Good luck
Thin metal used on cars must be a nightmare to weld...it isn't as easy as people think.
@@Sean006 it's not that hard I find exhaust pipe patches harder personally
For the amount of welding you'll be doing, you'll be going through quite a few welding machines 😃🤣😂
What happened with the fiesta after this videos mate?
what about a car port? I dunno anything about how much they cost btw... as youve knocked the rust off from under the bumper... get it dipped?
or a car marquee should be cheap and provide good shelter from the wind and rain.
Tough decision, and a lot of work! My advice would be to avoid gasless welders and buy a welder that will last ( you don't want to have to buy another, better one in a years time!). Also don't be temped to weld up-side-down until you are a fully accomplished welder. Get the shell as light as possible and get it on it's side, either on a roller jig or on an old mattress. Love the channel, and it has actually inspired me to start my own channel. Thanks
Is the Fiesta still being worked on?
James I must tell you this if you leave the car uncovered during the winter then it will be way worse when you revisit the project. My advice is to either build an impromptu garage/shelter over the car to protect it as much as possible
How's the project going. Would love for you to have her ready for the road :)
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍#save the fiesta
Looking forward for you to learn welding. Will you make videos on it while you are learning?
Old fords rust true but Any 20 year plus car/van rusts. Mercedes cars/vans of a similar age will be worse they used real cheap steal around 2000
Do TIG welding, easier to control, definitely for exhaust pipes.
James watch 'Urchfab' on you tube great welding advice for learning to mig weld and fabricate repair panels
plus the Zetec S will eventually become another old ford that will gain in value......
Great decision, you’ll be teaching loads of people at the same time‼️keep up the good work
Learn to weld!
Be very careful welding in your shed it’s wood that’s all I’m going to say on that well done for taking the time to learn get plenty of off cuts from eBay that’s what I did or get some 1mm mild steal from the same place looking forward to seeing your up and coming videos don’t worry about mistakes whilst you’re learning get it right then you’ll be fine work on the cars
Great decision. Taught my self to mig weld best thing I ever did.
Yeah especially useful for sealing the letter box from junk mail
Mark C Littler 😂
Me to man.
From the other and the Real side this car is so rotten it doesnt pay off welding it I can only say this car is ready for junkyard but i respect his thing to Learn welding and trying to Save the car!
Learn to weld on the car. If you mess it up don’t worry scrap it
save the engine and drop it into a clean shell too
hey man....great news as its something that i want to learn to do too so will deffo follow you on this.....
Re shell
First sensible comment here
@@davidhaygarth4763 thanks. Sourcing one might not be easy but in the long run a lot less hastle. Bolt off bolt on
harryvision toys and trains all the bits will bolt on to any 3dr mk5 fiesta, there’s still quite a few about. I don’t think it would be too hard to find one with less rust.
Glad your giving it a go bud. Think you've just convinced me to save my golf. Been a few years now since I done any welding so looking forward to this one alot 👋😁👍
Whatever you do don't cheap out on your mig welder. I have just started mig welding and the rtech 180 is a lovely machine. I've been welding thin stainless with it without issue. Cheap welder will make a mess and burn holes through everything. I've had mine 4 weeks and I'm already making a custom exhaust with it. Plus the option of spool gun means you can do aluminium
I don't know what polo mk3's are like for rust but this video has motivated me to check mine out
all you welding as to be all the way round any plate you fit and when done paint it with hammer right or some other type of paint do not cover it in under seal till after mot so tester can see the welds
you can check out the requirements re welding corrosion at direct.gov mot standards
AT THE END OF THE DAY THE WELDING SHOULD BE AS STRONG AS IT WAS WHEN MADE YOUR DRIVING THE CAR AND IN A COLLISION YOU WANT TO BE AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE
Hi James, thats funny. In summer 2019 I rescued my Fiesta MK4 too. I couldn't weld and learned it with this project. I had the same rusty parts. In the end I replaced both sills, which was very interesting work to do. If you have any questions or need pics just ask me ;)
You've made the right decision to save it. It is the perfect opportunity to learn how to weld. This is a skill I need to improve on myself. I have a MIG welder and the use of a garage as well as a car that is need of welding (the Triumph Dolomite). Something you can do straight away is to cut out all that rust. The angle grinder is your friend. With a selection grinding wheels, cutting wheels, flap discs and a knotted wire wheel it will make short work of the rust. Once you're back to clean solid metal get some weld-through primer on to protect it.
I’ve always wanted to weld! I’ll be following you on your welding experience 😬
I would advise that you DON'T get gassless/flux core mig... gas seems to produce much better welds.. in my opinion anyway!
IF you can find a new floor pan, that would be best bet!!!! Because otherwise i can assure Rust will be back in the floor pan!!!! The thing with a rust hole is that it is at least twice the size you see, you need to cut out ALL bad metal ( discoloured ) around the hole, RUST NEVER SLEEPS, yes you can slow it down but the ONLY way to kill off is to cut ALL RUST OUT!!!!
I'm bidding on a 2014 Fiesta. 3 days to go on the auction and it has 50,000 on it but the engine light is on which is a concern. I'm thinking it should be OK due to the mileage and it seems to run fine.
There’s a good chance that there’s a hole in the top of the petrol tank near the filler or at least some rust. I got a new OEM quality tank sent from Germany for about £65 for mine. Not the end of the world and the way to go if rust has taken hold on the tank! Good video and you seem one of the better UK rebuild guys. I imagine you’ve watched Goonzquad somewhere along the line though😂👍
Best advice I can give James don't buy a cheap welder will make it harder to learn Clark have a good reputation had my 150te turbo for years mate machine mart is a good place to go
Just rebuilding my mx5 track car and I am using products from buzzweld to protect chassis etc. Highly recommended.
Learning to weld in a wooden shed, what could possibly go wrong? 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Get your self a deccent size fire extinguisher 🧯 James.
Avoid flux core welders - especially the A/C only ones. They take a huge amount of learning and even then blow holes far too easily in thin sheet. Get a decent AC/DC gas MIG (you will mostly use DC) and if it has TIG as well then all the better. Having started the learning curve I can say from experience that TIG is preferable once you get the hang of it. Watch Trevs Blog for tips and tricks ! Above all persevere - your first welds will be horrible but it gets better quick. Enjoy and good luck.
When you rebuild the engine you can "index" the spark plugs.... It's basically where you get a permanent marker or tipex and Mark the "open" gap side of the plug... Then unscrew/screw them in until they're threaded so that the open gap roughly faces the intake valves...
....it helps ensure a clean burn (which might add 1 or 2 bhp) but more importantly means easier starting in the cold. 👌
I'm sure you've already been told by whoever is helping you get your welder. But when it comes to welding cars, make sure you use 0.8 mm wire otherwise you will burn through the steel non-stop.
Also, as someone who's done rust repair on a few cars before.. Best thing you will ever do is getting underneath it sandblasted. You may as well do it while it's a bare shell. I wish I did it on my MK2 Golf before I started repairing the rust on the floorpan. It's best to get all the nasty surprises out of the way all at once and it will save you hours with a wire brush taking off underseal in preparation of welding it.
Hi there, Cromwell tools would be glad to provide you with a welder. We could even organise some welding advice for you!! Please get in touch with Leigh Maidment. I have emailed you. Thanks.
Look into a company called Buzzweld for any coatings, I've used their products for a number of years. Their Rust Encapsulator and chassis in one paints are amazing
We have the same car.. bought it for £500 3 yrs ago.. done 40,000 miles in it so far.. I bought my welder for around £100 and saved many cars with it. Its an essential piece of kit!
You just know he’s Gonna go Gasless ! Which means shit quality welds with splatter everywhere 🙄 Hobywelds your pal for gas 😉
It's quite strange regarding the "Male" psychie ! I've always had a desire to keep a car on the road. I have a 2005 alfa romeo 147, which against all odds, is a fantasticly reliable 15 year old car, and I spent some money having welding done for its MOT, I just couldn't part with it . Had the work done, and its absolutely perfect. Many people wouldn't waste a penny on an alfa, but I can say with honesty, that this car has never let me down, even on the coldest of mornings. Just fitted some leather seats, and I'm loving driving her !
You will find you can blow holes right through the thin metal especially we’re it joins.
So get a joggler panel tool on eBay and this will save so many hours of headaches.
Just you tube the tool and you will se what I mean
Make sure you get a quality one..I had two Laser tools Jogglers off fleabay...they were as much use as an ashtray on a motorbike...both of them broke on 1mm steel only got about 2" done before they broke....best ones are the pnumatic one...👍👍👍
There's many a BMW E34 owner wishing they could take their side skirts off and see no rust... I'm one of them :( Good on you for saving this car and your positive attitude, and for learning to weld!
Practice on the fiesta. Welding inst hard just need good preparation unless you are welding above you :-). Make sure u cut out to good metal dont try to weld on rusty surface!. If you make a mistake just cut it out / grind it off and go again. Get some flap discs for your grinder. Get a 200A + Mig or TIG.
You could grab a 2 post ramp off eBay for a £999.00 stick on the drive save you a lot of hassle that’s your next project?..👍🏻
Strip the car completely and manufacture a roll over jig. www.rolloverjigs.com/ use the idea from the website to make your own. Absolutely the best aid for welding. Good luck!
I haven't watched the full video yet James! (If I'm wrong I'll edit this comment) A Arc/stick welder wouldn't be very difficult to use on the car, a MIG welder would be best to use but don't get a gas-less MIG the welds are basically made of cheese!
Always good to learn new skills. You can buy all the panels Cheap cut to size will look Oem . Decent paint job too. 💪😎You saved the Ford
Have a look at Pete C's you tube channel ( Cortina restoration), he has a whole library of videos which cover Welding, Fabrication and a lot more. Different car but the principle is the same. He is really knowledgeable, might be worth reaching out and get some advice.
I have two mig welders. of the two I much prefer the one that takes a Co2/Argon mix gas bottle, Although you can get away with using just a Co2 bottle, I got my large one from a mate that runs a pub & lasts for ages !,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The gas-less one i find a bit awkward to seam weld with no matter how I have the settings. Hope this helps. Oh & be prepared for little holes to become big holes by the time you clean it all up !.
Good luck james, try and see if you can get a night course at your local college in welding as its always a bonus. Its about time you got a couple of sponsors to help fund your channel as rebuilding the fiesta is going to cost you a small fortune. Especially the welding machine, I'm hoping someone see's this who reps for the big names in welding industry and approaches you and help fund your project. Get a pull out gazebo, allot of car detailers use them during this kind of weather and get a good quality one , ask around the car detailers on TH-cam, OCD details has bought one recently and its five minutes to put up .
Get the fiests under cover with tiapauline and bungie ropes , but before you do . Try and get a dry day wash the car and then once dry give it a couple coats of wax , this will help protect the paint and slow down any more deterioration . Spray the interior exposed metal with any good rust preventing paint so it helps give it a barrier during the winter . Sounds a bit mad , but it will be a safe precaution. My dad this to his Mk3 Ford Transit LWB Van in the late 80's and it lasted through to 1996 , before he had to do any welding.
Hope this helps. Good luck mate 🤞😉
Nice one dude good decision that cars is well worth saving and it’s not so bad really . once you can weld you’ll fly through that . I absolutely love these cars this cars gonna be beautiful when you’ve finished 👌👍
Can you get a welding equipment supplier to 'donate' some semi-professional equipment...you can then show idiots like us how to use their equipment to weld our cars too. Good luck...hope you have fun.
I'm no expert but I have welded up worse you made a good choice learning to weld is an art
"A grinder&paint make me the welder I aint"
It really will be scrap by Spring. Just save yourself the time and hassle...the whole cars fucked.
Wise decision, James. It shows you're not afraid to learn new skills. Just take yre time and it all be ok. Once the project is finished ,the satisfying is tremendously, cos it all done by yourself!!!!
Hi buddy, im in the EXACT same place but with a Mk 4 and im a lot older so cold is my worst enemy! My only guidance is learn to stick weld before you start mig or tig, Get yourself a cheap little MMA stick welder and have some fun before you plunge into the more expensive side of welding
Brave .... fingers crossed James , carrying out this level of welding is very brave , but as you say , it’s time to learn ....
I welded rust damage, without any experience what so ever, on an old Volvo 745 that was basically just waiting for the scrap yard. Floors, spare wheel, wheel archs, frame, rocker panel, engine bay, you name it. It passed inspection and I even got praise from the inspector. Kinda scary at first when you read about fire and what not but it's just like putting legos together. Hardest thing in the beginning is to learn how to bend the metal to fit the rust damaged area and learning how the weld works so that you don't burn through and other issues, and most of all, thinking positive thoughts because it'll get boring very quickly and feels like it'll never end haha.
Happy about your decision Mate 💪 cheers have a good weekend and greetings from Germany 😄
Oh and Im looking forward to your merch 🙈 Christmas present for myself 🙈
get your self a ''gas mig'' and you will learn very easy ,just clean/sand back to clean metal everything all the rust paint oil ect and you wont go wrong mig is the easiest if your clean gas mig doesnt like contamination at all it will cause porosity like a aero chocolate bar bubbles and makes the weld very weak and would a failed test,, i would say go and do a short corse you wont regret it and because you are doing cars its best to know the correct safe way and for its MOT ;-)
The best decision James. These cars are getting rarer and need saving. I have done a bit of welding many years ago, I was given the task of welding up the floor of an old MK2 Transit, I was quite proud of my achievement.So never say never, be patient and do it properly. You will look back at this car in years to come and say " I saved that from the scrapper".
Why not continue with the learning curve, if you love working on cars then why not? Like you say learning to weld leads to other things. Some are buying smashed up cars from Coparts at a bargain price, fixing them up mechanically or bodily, then either keeping them or making a profit selling them on. Job satisfaction putting an unroadworthy car back on the road.
I just recently taught myself to weld. One of the front subframe bolts on my mk3 mondeo started spinning, had to cut the front chassis leg open to get at it. I was absolutley shitting myself to cut it. now she's welded up an passed MOT. If im honest i thought you were gonna scap it. So happy to hear you'll be giving it a go. Wish you the best of luck.
Nice one learning to weld first lesson for you. Welding causes sparks and heat your shed is wood and has a sofa and other combustible things. BAD IDEA learning in shed the sparks could smoulder . Shame your not more local to me couple hours and i would have you welding.
You've taken a lot on, but I wish you luck. Welding is easy, but fabrication can be a bitch. I'm still willing to watch your progress nonetheless !
Why even think about saving it? These cars are worth about £100 in good condition with low miles they're cheap runabouts used as first cars by chavs
I just punched a hole in my Fiesta while attempting to clean up the Vin number. Why on earth did they put in I'm the floor where the lowest point is. I can't simply weld the floor because of that number.... 😕