England's Forgotten Queen: Lady Jane Grey Imprisoned | History Documentary | Reel Truth History

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  • @TheSpotleight
    @TheSpotleight 5 ปีที่แล้ว +239

    Really enjoying this series. No one ever focuses on the complexities of Jane’s time in the spotlight.

    • @4united373
      @4united373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jody Doherty I thought direct Royal blood line ended with the Tudors

    • @shaylatorch
      @shaylatorch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You never hear much about Queen Charlotte either, but we all know why that is

  • @dianemariepalacio6146
    @dianemariepalacio6146 5 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    I am no English nor a European at that, but I love watching or reading about English regime. The history and tales of royalties in this continent is indeed fascinating. Thank you for making these videos available since I can’t get more detailed books in my country about these. I am going on a marathon to larn more about these people. Thank you for great documentaries!

    • @magetisteandii8796
      @magetisteandii8796 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Diane Marie Palacio Same! I am a non-english person fascinated with monarch histories

    • @ramencurry6672
      @ramencurry6672 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. I live in America but English history is far more interesting

  • @NeoDarkling
    @NeoDarkling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +127

    The fact that the nobles were surprised at Mary's ability to mobilize quickly and with authority is puzzling. She was the granddaughter of Isabella and the daughter of Catherine after all, both of whom were wise and savvy warrior queens. That combined with her stubborn and shrewd Tudor side made her a formidable opponent when her back was to the wall.

    • @hollyh314
      @hollyh314 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I cannot agree more with you!! And Mary's mother was very well loved so of course that would transcend to her as well.

    • @ChiquitaSalseraOne
      @ChiquitaSalseraOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@PKM_69 Check your history

    • @elizabethwoodley4340
      @elizabethwoodley4340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      (Late response but…) I honestly disagree with this documentary’s premise that Jane’s supporters were surprised Mary raised her standard. If they weren’t expecting meaningful resistance, then why would they hide Edward’s death and make a mad dash for the Tower? I think they did miscalculate their strength compared to hers, but I don’t think they expected Mary to do nothing. Just like I don’t believe Jane had *no idea* she was a candidate for the throne before Edward’s death.

    • @ChiquitaSalseraOne
      @ChiquitaSalseraOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PKM_69 I’ll need to check that out. That would be really interesting.

    • @ChiquitaSalseraOne
      @ChiquitaSalseraOne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PKM_69 So they made a psychological thriller instead of an accurate historical drama. I prefer books and sometimes watch historical dramas for entertainment purposes only.

  • @Cypresssina
    @Cypresssina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +390

    Another reason Mary probably came out on top is that her mother had been a very popular Queen.

    • @RustyShock
      @RustyShock 5 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Catherine lead an army and put down a Scottish rebellion in the north of England while Henry VIII was away. That endeared her to the people.

    • @witchqueen1296
      @witchqueen1296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      @@RustyShock And she did all that. WHILE PREGNANT.

    • @LuisaRodriguez0212
      @LuisaRodriguez0212 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Yes Katherine of Aragon was popular with the public.

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@RustyShock Yes, whilst Henry was arsing about Losing to the French, Katherine and her advisors and troops won the battle of Flodden,where the Scottish king died. Let's not forget who her granny wqas either. The formidable Isabella of Spain, who donned armour and led her troops alongside her husband. These were not ladies to be trifled with! I think we actually have the Tudor Age back to front. Whilst the men are posturing, preening and playing power games it is actually the Women who were the tour de force. Not just the Royal ones either. Margaret Beaufort, Bess of Hardwicke, Elizabeth Raleigh, Katherine Parr, Anne Boleyn, Grainne O Malley; they were just some of the very influentional, powerful ladies during the Tudor age.

    • @bazinga9473
      @bazinga9473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      The granddaughter of Isabella the Warrior Queen was never going to let this go quietly. 👑

  • @orlandotorres8254
    @orlandotorres8254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I can’t believe I have watch this over 40 times just cause helen caster is hosting it and she is amazing her voice just drags u in to the show

  • @libationsofaphrodite3529
    @libationsofaphrodite3529 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    It’s so interesting how Mary became the first Queen Regnant of England while her own Grandmother Isabella of Castile was the first Queen Regnant of Spain.

    • @errolpletcher9186
      @errolpletcher9186 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Urraca of León was the first reigning Queen of Castile, who also claimed the title Empress of all Spain.

  • @dionnedunsmore9996
    @dionnedunsmore9996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    14:04 plus, Not just was Mary who carried the royal blood running thru her veins but England loved Marys' mother,.Queen Catherine! She was viewed as (the original) the people's queen! They really loved her and believed the king had done her wrong by forcing her to live the way he did after he divorced her so, it doesnt surprise me at all to hear they supported Mary!❤️I wouldve!

  • @emiliaessentials
    @emiliaessentials 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It's unfair what they did to lady Jane because she didn't had choice and she had to marry and be a queen all forced on her such young age, no one helped protected her. It's very sad.

  • @curtisclary9911
    @curtisclary9911 5 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    Mary was not the first child of Henry and Katherine. She was the first and only one to survive more that a few days.

    • @bazinga9473
      @bazinga9473 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Henry (their first child born living) actually lived for almost 2 months before dying suddenly.

    • @natasharomanova4147
      @natasharomanova4147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      True, she was really their only one to live long enough to become heir. But he also had 1 illegitimate son that he could’ve made heir, but he was OBSESSED with having a “spare” in case the first didn’t make it.

    • @sirenofthesea7802
      @sirenofthesea7802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Jody Doherty It was also speculated her first child, Catherine Carry, may have been a child of Henry VIII as well.

    • @BewitchedBeckatha
      @BewitchedBeckatha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Jody Doherty Bessie Blount's boy was also Henry Fitzroy!

    • @TheJennick13
      @TheJennick13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I am SO GLAD to hear someone besides myself saying that!!! Its almost as infuriating as hearing that Joan of Arc was a peasant when her father actually was a town sheriff, i believe, not to mention the house that all the tourists go to isn't the REAL house but a smaller replica as true one was demolished ages ago! You'd think the historians would be fact checking these things & not have folks like us calling them out! :)

  • @dmgib5239
    @dmgib5239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +391

    The modern Church of England only exists because Anne Boleyn played hard to get with Henry VIII. That is where it's roots lay. That is the reason why it was created. It is not because Henry VIII cared about Protestantism. All he cared about was bedding Anne. Why doesn't anyone in England ever seriously talk about this?

    • @Armylady74
      @Armylady74 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      dm gib agreed! Henry didn’t want the Church to run his life. A new religion for sex.....

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      It was meant to be. I can't even imagine Britain being mainly Catholic.

    • @astrinymris9953
      @astrinymris9953 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      dm gib -- "Played hard to get"? You say that as if Anne's not wishing to be married before having sex was immoral. Do you think she should have just been Henry's mistress? Would you have viewed her as more virtuous if she'd been less virtuous?

    • @dmgib5239
      @dmgib5239 5 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      You misunderstand me. I think Anne Boleyn was brilliant. Her own sister Mary had been used by Henry VIII as a mistress, which hurt her reputation when the king ended it. Anne was smart enough to know that playing hard to get would make the king want her even more, and she was exactly right. Look at the lengths Henry went to in order to marry her. He created a whole knew Church of England because the pope wouldn't give him an annulment to his marriage with Catherine of Aragon. That was my point. It certainly wasn't meant as a criticism of Anne.

    • @davidlanghorn5814
      @davidlanghorn5814 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      who says thay dont , and who gves a shit

  • @countdread6467
    @countdread6467 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love these videos about the Tudor Dynasty. Huge Tudor history buff. So informative these are.

  • @IreneTivz
    @IreneTivz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Wow! This documentary made it very clear to understand what really happened. I am motivated to watch more of your videos. Thanks for sharing💯👍

  • @iseejewelz3874
    @iseejewelz3874 5 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    People’s greatest mistakes , underestimating

    • @hirahiro2331
      @hirahiro2331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charisma 101 really? I thought it was 9 - 5 - 25?

    • @hirahiro2331
      @hirahiro2331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charisma 101 I found it. Elizabeth: 44 Mary: 5 Edward: 6 (Edit: THATS STILL 55! Impressive, Charisma!)

  • @sheilatuano9633
    @sheilatuano9633 5 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    It was painful to listen that many of those who were in the side of Jane became traitors and support Mary, instead. Northumberland underestimated Mary's local support, and Jane's mistake was ordering Northumberland to replace her own father to lead the army in Cambridge. Too far-away from England to protect her.

    • @nassimboussaadia6720
      @nassimboussaadia6720 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lady Jane Grey was an usurpator, by turning their back on her and supporting their true queen they were forgiven.

  • @rebeccavelarde4017
    @rebeccavelarde4017 5 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I’m a big fan of history 💜

  • @matambaraissa
    @matambaraissa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I love history so much. Thanks for this!

  • @deedsle5395
    @deedsle5395 5 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The actor who plays Northumberland is exactly as I would picture as the controlling savvy politician. A well played part!

    • @MyMomo17
      @MyMomo17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He probably poisoned Edward.

    • @svei5289
      @svei5289 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      lol its quite humorous

  • @katwernery6505
    @katwernery6505 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Mary was not Henry and Catherine’s oldest child, she was their only one who survived.

    • @deendrew36
      @deendrew36 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But she was also the first born, so she was the oldest. You don’t just forget about the ones you lost.

    • @carinafourie9119
      @carinafourie9119 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Mary I was not the couple’s firstborn child. Aragon’s firstborn was a stillborn daughter, born in 1510, followed by Henry Duke of Cornwall (born and died after 2 months) in 1511, followed by two short-lived sons (some sources say they may have stillborn) in 1513 and 1514 respectively. Mary I was born in 1516 ( their only child to survive past infancy) followed by the last, another stillborn daughter in 1518.

    • @widowrumstrypze9705
      @widowrumstrypze9705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@carinafourie9119 She would be referred to as "her parent's eldest surviving child", but when mentioned in context with her half siblings, she would be known as her "FATHER'S eldest child" since they all had different Mothers, but shared the same Dad.

    • @Happymind-happyworld.
      @Happymind-happyworld. 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wouldn’t be surprised if this person is pro-life

  • @brucehunter8355
    @brucehunter8355 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    My husband is descendant of James the first/6th through Mary Queen of Scots and Tudors. I'm a descendant of most of the Plantagenet monarchs and family. We are 9th cousins once removed through my maternal side. This is an excellent documentary!

    • @msbrowngault
      @msbrowngault 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      So what would be your title?

    • @coopsevy5664
      @coopsevy5664 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@msbrowngault yes what is her title? Even 9th cousin she would have commonwealth rights.

    • @mikeottawa8158
      @mikeottawa8158 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no arstocratc baroniaL nobiLiary titLs r due givn isued acording to tha Laws ruLes peerage of tha reaLm , unLs tha monarc and act of parLamnt raise tha prson to tha peerage

    • @youkyouk7471
      @youkyouk7471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Et vive la République ! 😂

    • @kevinmorgan8534
      @kevinmorgan8534 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Denis Diderot
      And that's what should have happened to your"Royal" ancestors!

  • @sarfrazmh31
    @sarfrazmh31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such an admirably done series. Thank you.
    Truly enjoyed ,and developed a new insight into history of English monarchy.

  • @miaw.5819
    @miaw.5819 5 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    Jane's father should've manned up. You smack your daughter around to be Queen, but now you're having fainting spells because the stress? LOL. 😒

    • @LynxSouth
      @LynxSouth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      He was a coward and a bully, a common combination.

    • @tramey1961
      @tramey1961 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Mia W. I thought the same thing

    • @WhitneyDahlin
      @WhitneyDahlin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

      It's HIS fault Jane died. If he had refused Northumberlend she would have never been executed. Then once he beat Jane into submission he couldn't even hold the council together while Northumberlend was fighting in HIS place on the battlefield! Ive known men like him in my life, weak, cowardly, greedy, lazy, and selfish. I wouldn't be surprised if he was FAKING his "fainting" fits. I once knew a guy that faked a pancreatitis attack and had surgery he didnt need just to get out of bootcamp and he had only been at bootcamp for TWO days. THAT is who Jane's father was. He wanted the power and wealth of being father to the Queen of England but he didn't want to actually work to get it or risk himself to protect her. Poor Jane. But i think she was doomed no matter what her father did at that point. If he HAD gone to lead the army instead of Northumberlend he probably would have lost the battle. He had zero battle experience and probably no military or strategic education, he wasn't a very charismatic or inspiring leader and I have a feeling he probably would have run away during battle or ordered a retreat. I really think King Edward should have made his will and intention known before he died as soon as he had decided. It would give the people time to come to terms with it and most people wouldn't dare to defy the rightful King while he was still alive. The fact it was kept hidden until after he had died was a huge mistake

    • @HallsofAsgard96
      @HallsofAsgard96 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@WhitneyDahlin Not to mention the fact that after Mary's ascension. He goes ahead and tries to raise ANOTHER rebellion, as a last ditch attempt to put Jane on the throne, effectively sealing her fate.

    • @lisamcbride8921
      @lisamcbride8921 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mia W. Right!?!

  • @elizabethclark3931
    @elizabethclark3931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Every time I see this I am astounded that they are touching these ancient documents with bare hands.

    • @luimary6203
      @luimary6203 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's said that the damage from touching documents with bare hands is less than with gloves, because with the gloves turning a pages became slippery and they would tear the page

    • @elise_elise13
      @elise_elise13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@luimary6203 yes, that is right! Medieval books and paper were made much better back then, because they were expected to last longer since printing wasn't so common. I've read that there are even some books where the leather binding is made stronger by the oils found on human skin! How cool is that?!

    • @svei5289
      @svei5289 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i think they’re laminated

    • @hollyh314
      @hollyh314 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I just put a reply about that myself!!! And in the next episode they have the actual diary that Lady Jane gray handed off right before they chopped off her head and they're touching it with bare hands yet again!!! This absolutely frustrating that they are doing this!

    • @widowrumstrypze9705
      @widowrumstrypze9705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@hollyh314 They probably know the protocols of ancient document handling better than we do, I'm sure, lol!

  • @evelynbarwick7118
    @evelynbarwick7118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how dramatic everything is! This is just beautiful. Northumberland looks exactly how i would picture him. Same with Jane and Mary

  • @Xaviar_St.Thomas
    @Xaviar_St.Thomas 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    (Regarding Henry GREY)
    … He had ambition, no ability and no desire to work toward that ambition (nor to gain ability) … He wanted it handed to him on a plate.

  • @casssmith2610
    @casssmith2610 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The best documentaries I’ve watched in ages! Thank you!

  • @tanyab7318
    @tanyab7318 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    So interesting! Looking forward to the next installment.

    • @MrTiten1
      @MrTiten1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes same hear.

  • @Dark__Matter
    @Dark__Matter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I just feel sorry for Queen Jane, she didn't ask for it....

  • @giraffequeen9437
    @giraffequeen9437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Queen Jane Grey is such a compelling and tragic historical figure. I wish she hadnt been executed but I see why Mary had her killed. Tragic :(

    • @briandelaney9710
      @briandelaney9710 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      She was tragic but I’m afraid she was not a Queen

    • @Amiramirfaris97
      @Amiramirfaris97 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@briandelaney9710a queen indeed.

  • @joseibarraguballa3589
    @joseibarraguballa3589 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The music and the history montage at the end gives me chills

  • @PennyCilllin
    @PennyCilllin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    In the eyes of Catholic Britons, Henry VIII made a Catholic saint and martyr out of his daughter Mary long before his own death by repeatedly disowning her, declaring her a b@stard, degrading and terrorizing her nearly all her life. Mary claimed her lonely psychopathic bloody rule was God's will, but it seemed more like the most bitter earthly revenge against her cruel murderous father and his minions.

    • @Querencia7779
      @Querencia7779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Penny! You added brilliant insight.

    • @katiekress7287
      @katiekress7287 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly, he did not let her see her own mother for years, he was cruel to her and she was his daughter from a legitimate marriage that lasted 20 some years. Plus her mother was a royal in her own right.

  • @tarawrr20
    @tarawrr20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The resources and support in the battle of Jane vs. Mary seems very reminiscent of Richard III vs. Henry VII.

  • @martinavaslovik3433
    @martinavaslovik3433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A really great story and very well told.

  • @karenknicely1788
    @karenknicely1788 5 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I feel that Lady Jane was thrown into a position that she may not actually have wanted.

    • @sl4983
      @sl4983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Same

    • @Cypresssina
      @Cypresssina 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      They did say that in the first episode, so you'd be right 😊

    • @warrenwalton2205
      @warrenwalton2205 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sl4983 , I doubt that !

    • @ebonyloveivory
      @ebonyloveivory 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She didn't have a choice. Whether she wanted to or not, was moot. Sadly, she had little say in her future.

  • @pamelawarden345
    @pamelawarden345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Im always fascinated with the history of the english history. Lady Jane Grey did not want to be Queen to begin with. Why force her.

    • @pamelawarden345
      @pamelawarden345 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I've always felt sorry for Jane

    • @mikeottawa8158
      @mikeottawa8158 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      ther wr no human rights bak thn , a daughtr dd wat she was ordrd toLd by her parnts , Jane knw it was wrong , but nothing she couLd'v done to stop her parnts and Jon DudLy

    • @Whitneypyant
      @Whitneypyant 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They wanted to keep the country Protestant

  • @katwernery6505
    @katwernery6505 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Matilda led troops in her bid for the throne, so there was a precedent. She was fighting against King Stephen who usurped the throne from her. Poor Matilda she was denied her throne, though her son Henry II became Stephen’s heir, and now a historian is overlooking her.
    This is the second mistake made by this historian. The first was saying Mary was the oldest child of Catherine and Henry VIII, she wasn’t, she was the only child to survive more then a few days.

    • @janefelix3821
      @janefelix3821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      She was the only child of Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon to live long enough to be heir. In those days about half the children died before the age of 2. Had Henry lived a few more years, he could have outlived Edward.

    • @justme-tj3jt
      @justme-tj3jt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sad the Plantagenet line lost the throne.

  • @SNP-1999
    @SNP-1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think it is obvious that Mary's support came from the fact that people knew her and had loved her mother, Catherine - but who knew Lady Jane Grey? However, had the fight been between Mary and Elizabeth, her half sister, things would have been completely different. Mary's supporters against Jane most probably ignored religious beliefs to a certain extent - the contest was entirely about the legitimate heir to the throne, not about religion. This would not have been the case in a battle between Mary and Elizabeth in which religion would have played the foremost factor. I do not think that Mary would have won that particular battle.

  • @oolongteaforjoyluck17
    @oolongteaforjoyluck17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Boy, they were sure brutal back then, especially to their own family. Wonder what Queen Elizabeth II and her family think of all this?

    • @richardwhitfill5253
      @richardwhitfill5253 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Back then ? What about today ?

    • @Kari.F.
      @Kari.F. 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@richardwhitfill5253 How many European Royals have been ordered murdered by their own family members during the past century? None. Ergo sum: They were more brutal back then.

    • @Carol-D.1324
      @Carol-D.1324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kari.F.
      Well said.

    • @IamBlueCat666
      @IamBlueCat666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Probably misses it so she could have Charles head chopped off so she could pick William as King.

    • @shaylatorch
      @shaylatorch 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Kari.F. , Diana

  • @1marilynable
    @1marilynable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was such a cool series. I'd love to see this about more people in history

  • @watchgoose
    @watchgoose 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    exactly why there should be no state-mandated religion, but FREEDOM of religion.

    • @ghost-ez2zn
      @ghost-ez2zn 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @J Don too bad the xian fundamentalists and conservatives and Republicans always forget that part and continue to jam their mythology down our collective throats.

    • @ingloriousbetch4302
      @ingloriousbetch4302 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ghost-ez2zn exactly. We don't have freedom from religion whatsoever.

  • @chuckhandcock8867
    @chuckhandcock8867 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Looking forward to more enjoying this unlike my peers I read and I knew of Lady Jane Grey. Thank you 🙏 greetings from Montana 🤠

    • @kellybeck4579
      @kellybeck4579 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You too? History Montanans unite!

    • @LishSnead
      @LishSnead 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Howdy from Indiana😁

    • @Mairiain
      @Mairiain 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Other peers also knew about Lady Jane Grey :-)

  • @sunnysmiles8211
    @sunnysmiles8211 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The battle for the game of thrones. You win or you die.

  • @karladearden8113
    @karladearden8113 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I would love to have pursued bring a historian or an anthropologist...love love history!!

    • @Mrs.TJTaylor
      @Mrs.TJTaylor 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Karla Dearden What’s stopping you? Go ahead.

  • @valeriepitre9855
    @valeriepitre9855 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    How come school can't make it interesting like this

    • @hule1152
      @hule1152 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Depends on the teacher. I once had to teach underpriviled London teen students and they would not listen at all. Then I started telling them stories like that, about battles and the gruesome 😜 fate of the loosers they became quiet like mice in my classroom.

    • @widowrumstrypze9705
      @widowrumstrypze9705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@hule1152 *Losers.

  • @misslawlesss
    @misslawlesss 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing documentary!

  • @melssamoore996
    @melssamoore996 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Religion & greed... the downfall - always.

  • @glorialange6446
    @glorialange6446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One phrase stands out, for me. Jane lost the support of some, even most of the council when she refused to give her husband a crown, essentially making him King. As the men considered this, along with Guildford Dudleys refusal to accept her decision, this now makes the men wonder if Jane will be any better than Mary on the throne... basically why fight for Jane if the people want Mary... and Im sure Marys age and possible barrenness because of it, and Janes liklihood of childbirth, if Guildford can be brought back to the fold, was a very real concern. So many considerations...

    • @melissaharris3389
      @melissaharris3389 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If Jane Grey had remained Queen and Gilford recalcitrant she could have devoiced him under the precedent set by Henry VIII, as the head of the Church of England, and on grounds of failure to preform his husbandly 'duties'.
      If I were Jane, that's what I would be thinking. Get rid of Gilford and Northumberland. Marry whomever I please as long as he's happy to be a duke/prince.

  • @sl4983
    @sl4983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    She was the rightful heir, I believe. And in turn, Elizabeth.

  • @sarahnixdorf1
    @sarahnixdorf1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Her and Edward 6th were born in the same month and year, Oct 1537.

  • @rachelhua3690
    @rachelhua3690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That thumbnail is of Mary I, not Lady Jane Grey.

  • @felicia5676
    @felicia5676 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm American but I love watching series about the Royal.
    ♥😊

  • @angelabender8132
    @angelabender8132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    The boy king, who designated Gray as successor, was an idiot to believe that his powerful half sisters, who were in line first, would accept being set aside for a bigotted teenager, who had not a chance to survive court politics and intrigues let alone public disapproval.
    Mary had been awaiting her moment to become queen for decades, sacrificing her life to that dream.
    She was raised as a princess to succeed her father who later changed his mind as we know but he did restore her to the succession.
    Jane Gray should have known that an Aragon woman was too strong to defeat.

  • @miaw.5819
    @miaw.5819 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'm surprised Mary didn't reach out to the Vatican for support. Doesn't the Vatican have it's own "holy" military? Was the Vatican really just watching how this played out? What stopped them from interfering?

    • @givemeabreak658
      @givemeabreak658 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes the jesuits! But it would have taken a while to travel! In the end the crypto jesuits did put the userping Hanovoreans on the throne, establish city of London and the Rothchilds brought the UK back to vatican control.

    • @trose4298
      @trose4298 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It would take far to long.

    • @susanmorgan8833
      @susanmorgan8833 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@givemeabreak658 Where do you get your misinformation? Any conspiracy theories you'd like to include?

    • @cajonjackie2075
      @cajonjackie2075 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It was one thing for a "Catholic but English" Mary to face off against the "Protestant and English" Jane but had Mary moved on London at the head of a Catholic AND foreign, mercenary AND Papist army we'd be debating today how it came to pass that "Mary was executed for treason, not queen Jane!"

  • @carolinasassenach8535
    @carolinasassenach8535 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I wonder how betrayed Mary's protestant supporters felt once she started killing them all. Evil, bitter woman.

    • @adelinecrawford4433
      @adelinecrawford4433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Regina's Old Soul Probably no different than Catholic supporters of Henry felt when he killed them off no less brutally.

    • @adelinecrawford4433
      @adelinecrawford4433 5 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Also, Mary was ironically known for her mercy outside of a very small group of protesters. In the whole of her reign she executed a total number of 300 people, many of which she tried very hard to spare ( just like she tried to spare Jane’s life by all means possible. She even tried to say Jane was pregnant but when the court tried to have Jane examined she became very upset and refused, which makes perfect sense). The nickname “Bloody Mary” was a big part of propaganda against her during this time. She was actually a lot less likely to execute people than her Father, brother, and even her sister Elizabeth I. Mary was known to pardon people( again, far more than anyone else in her family) and would often offer last minute pardons AS people were about to be executed. During her reign she did nothing shocking by burning people alive. In her time, this was pretty standard “punishment” as horrible as that sounds. Her dad, her brother, her sister, and even Martin Luther had people burned at the stake. I’m not trying to excuse her actions. I am simply deeply upset when I see comments that perpetuate false conceptions about historical facts that have long been perpetuated by myth and popular belief.

    • @TurquoiseTalks
      @TurquoiseTalks 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Henry boiled people alive... Hhmmm yeah...

    • @LynxSouth
      @LynxSouth 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@adelinecrawford4433 She made a lot of fuss about supposedly not wanting to execute people, but when it came down to the nitty-gritty, she gave the orders. That 300 people you mention were only the people she had burned for not being Catholic. And that's an average of more than one a week during her reign. She was NOT less likely to execute than her sister, and comes out at least as bad as Henry VIII on religious affiliation. And for the most part, H8 did not spy on people and try to search out Catholics. Mary was a vengeful, persecuting 'Big Sister' -- truly.

    • @warrenwalton2205
      @warrenwalton2205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@LynxSouth , I can't blame her..... . they ruined her life.

  • @karieschneider746
    @karieschneider746 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I don't want to watch the narrator walking up sidewalks and driving around, etc. I want to see more of the old portraits and places they lived.

    • @SKILLIUSCAESAR
      @SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      💯 I hate when they do that.

  • @patriciahayes7315
    @patriciahayes7315 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    3:56 - It's funny to see those four men sneaking past the doorway with their pikes at the ready. :)

  • @br6480
    @br6480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Why are they allowed to touch the original documents/ books without gloves on?

    • @br6480
      @br6480 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sarah Ducant, that's why I was asking how come they're allowed to touch them. I've always known them to wear gloves.

    • @hogwashmcturnip8930
      @hogwashmcturnip8930 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@br6480 Current opinion is that gloves actually do more harm than clean dry hands.

    • @orlandotorres8254
      @orlandotorres8254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe she said original copy’s if I’m not mistaken that’s probably why

  • @angelamyers66
    @angelamyers66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Didn't Elizabeth support Mary during this time... I might be mistaken... What history.

  • @emmafre-haack1746
    @emmafre-haack1746 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Poor Edward. Poor Jane. They had believs but no influence at all. Sad.

  • @wednesdayschild3627
    @wednesdayschild3627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Queen Mary's grandmother was queen Isabella of Castile. She legitimized her parents marriage when she was queen. That excludes the Grey sisters.

  • @covenmothergaming
    @covenmothergaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I see a lot of hate towards Anne Boleyn here, but new studies state she didn't play 'hard to get'. She hated Henry, she left thinking he would forget about her but he was adamant. She was villainized terribly.

    • @Isabella-nh5dm
      @Isabella-nh5dm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Let's face it. A lot of people were victims of Henry VIII and, as with all despots, they are never the ones in the wrong. Anne was just another pebble underfoot.

  • @lillianmcgrew217
    @lillianmcgrew217 ปีที่แล้ว

    This history is sad❤❤😢😢😢😢

  • @amanmahato3897
    @amanmahato3897 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Execution of Lady
    Jane Grey
    Painting by Paul Delaroche
    This painting made me know her whole story.

  • @1marilynable
    @1marilynable 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mark Griffin (the guy who is a historic weapons expert) has the coolest job.

  • @lindaackerman4412
    @lindaackerman4412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The big question is did Jane grey want this. I don't believe she did. However she was a young girl at the mercy of powerful power hungry relatives

  • @rawcookiejar3484
    @rawcookiejar3484 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where is is the third part. I just see two.

  • @sl4983
    @sl4983 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I read a GREAT book called The Six Wives of Henry the VIII". GREAT BOOK!!!!!

  • @evamarek5205
    @evamarek5205 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor, poor girl. RIP, Jane🙏

  • @svetlanaandrasova6086
    @svetlanaandrasova6086 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jane deserves a biopic movie

  • @puddin1226b
    @puddin1226b 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is DRAGGING!!

  • @saadiakhalid6938
    @saadiakhalid6938 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Depiction of Mary and makeup shows negative connotation on the producers part

  • @johnmiller8975
    @johnmiller8975 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes it is now policy to use well washed bare hands instead of gloves to handle archival documents & books

  • @luciferalpha3080
    @luciferalpha3080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    They should have crowned Frances, Jane's mother, first.

    • @lhzook
      @lhzook 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Lucifer Alpha She rescinded, in favor of Jane, any right she may have had, to the throne. Her husband , was an allie of the Duke of Northumberland and plotted for her daughter to marry Northumberland’s son.

    • @luciferalpha3080
      @luciferalpha3080 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lhzook I know. I've seen the first part. But what if they crowned her before Jane? It's just a thought.

    • @lhzook
      @lhzook 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lucifer Alpha She made a deal to give it up

    • @corneliali7747
      @corneliali7747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Ultimately I think Northumberland wanted the power. If Frances were made queen he would forever just be a council member. But by making Lady Jane the queen, who married his son, he' would be close relative of the monarch.

    • @lhzook
      @lhzook 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Cornelia Li I believe the same theory. By marrying his son to Jane, he was planning on ruling himself, by controlling the teenagers.

  • @SNP-1999
    @SNP-1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It doesn't surprise me at all that Jane's downfall was brought about by treachery. I do not think there was another era of English history in which treachery and perjury were so rife as in the Tudor era. Was it because in earlier ages, politics had only been decided by the aristocrats, whereby in the Tudor era commoners rose to exalted rank and apparently changed their flags according to the wind direction?

  • @sparkswain2820
    @sparkswain2820 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Wrong portrait in the beginning.....That's Elizabeth I, not Lady Jane Grey.

    • @rachelhua3690
      @rachelhua3690 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Isn’t that Mary?

    • @Mairiain
      @Mairiain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@rachelhua3690 Yes, that is Mary.

    • @Mairiain
      @Mairiain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, it's Mary.

    • @jasmincayanong4265
      @jasmincayanong4265 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whut?

  • @charlesrenniemacki
    @charlesrenniemacki 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Wrong title - should be England's Forgotten Queen: Lady Jane Grey.

    • @kasharrison1532
      @kasharrison1532 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Charles Edward Renshaw p

    • @dragoninthemoon7719
      @dragoninthemoon7719 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is the second half of the documentary.

    • @MorrigansRaven3944
      @MorrigansRaven3944 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I have always felt (imo) that Jane should be officially recognized as a Queen. I'm not excusing what happened and I do believe she was a pawn. But right or wrong: she was given that title and she took it, she had control (for awhile), she was seated in that throne and wore her crown because of Edward's decision. That certainly wasn't Jane's fault. I mean, it isn't as if they took Edward out and put Jane in his place. Edward wanted her there. History is history, and some of it isn't pretty and tied with ribbons.
      To me in my heart, she'll always be, if only for 9 days, a Queen of England. ❤

    • @warrenwalton2205
      @warrenwalton2205 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MorrigansRaven3944 , Queen without coronation !

    • @MorrigansRaven3944
      @MorrigansRaven3944 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@warrenwalton2205 Ohhhh, that's true! You are correct!! 👍

  • @ruksharalam173
    @ruksharalam173 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Anne and Henry the EIght are all responsible for the tribulations of Mary..

    • @SafetySpooon
      @SafetySpooon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      One *might* say it was the Pope who was responsible: kings need heirs, & the Pope had an "out" to give Henry his annulment. Anne had absolutely nothing to do with it. Had it not been Anne, it would have been another woman he fixated on.

    • @jerrymoore838
      @jerrymoore838 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well if not for Henry there would've been no Mary

  • @abbycross90210
    @abbycross90210 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    While I have no doubt Americans/Canadians can be experts in matters of British history, as an American myself it strikes me as strange that a British documentary would consult such a person when surely there are dozens of British experts to consult instead.

  • @victoriaberryhill5318
    @victoriaberryhill5318 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why doesn't anyone talk about how Queen Mary and queen Elizabeth brother changed who was going to rule the country on his death bed to keep his sisters off the throne?

    • @EvanSol919
      @EvanSol919 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That was discussed in part 1.

  • @Roxanne821
    @Roxanne821 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't really understand why Jane was not the rightful heir.... Why couldn't Edward declare a line of succession as king? That's kinda his job....

    • @SKILLIUSCAESAR
      @SKILLIUSCAESAR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He could, and clearly did lol, but doesn’t mean it will hold if the country rallies behind the far more sensible option.
      That’s the tricky part of kingship… taking the crown is the easy part… it’s holding it that matters, and Jane only held on for 9 days.

  • @Onora619
    @Onora619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    16 years old is really just a child. In another time she would have been a bestselling author or a scientist. Instead, being related to corrupt people got her killed.

  • @luisserrano7150
    @luisserrano7150 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Can you make a documentary about Korea's last empress?

  • @coopsevy5664
    @coopsevy5664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This whole issue makes me upset. I'm sorry there is a family still living a lie and the huge cover up.... very hurtful...

    • @mikeottawa8158
      @mikeottawa8158 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

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  • @WickedFelina
    @WickedFelina 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbnail is a portrait of Queen Mary, Henry VIII's daughter with Catherine of Aragon.

  • @golden8972
    @golden8972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is the epitome of underestimating your opponent.

  • @phoenixshade3
    @phoenixshade3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:48 Skip Intro

  • @kei-dx3wh
    @kei-dx3wh 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Northumberland was nor a thumb, nor land. He was not a tool, nor was he property. He had both, therefore he used and he owned, all for the crown of England.

  • @emiliaessentials
    @emiliaessentials 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a movie are 1986 about Lady Jane her story on this documentary

    • @bethflynn4278
      @bethflynn4278 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      My favorite. Queen Jane was played by Helene Bonham-Carter and her husband was Carey Else's.

  • @annam9132
    @annam9132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Jane never had a chance

  • @SNP-1999
    @SNP-1999 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why on Earth did they have King Edward wear a blazon with Scotland's Royal coat of arms, the red Lion Rapant on a golden background, on his tunic, seen here at 03:00 minutes, instead of England's three Lions (or Leopards, as is often maintained) ? Couldn't they find the appropriate badge in time for shooting the scenes ?

    • @Colin-Fenix
      @Colin-Fenix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have also commented this. Feels very sloppy and makes you wonder how much else they are getting wrong. This is documentary trying to teach us about history. If they can get such a simple thing as heraldry wrong, they aren’t a very reliable source of historical information.

  • @eiraremejeene
    @eiraremejeene 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If only she was not executed "at once," she could have been Elizabeth's problem later.

    • @camijaque2291
      @camijaque2291 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      agree

    • @1234willali
      @1234willali 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not really. She had no chance in competition with elizabeth.

  • @cindys2617
    @cindys2617 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll never understand how Jane, who was Queen because King Edward named her his successor, is the "traitor" in this scenario. A clear demonstration of how reality is manipulated by those with the most power.
    Seems little has changed in almost 500 years.

  • @cezarpricop9471
    @cezarpricop9471 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    *cough*Emperess Mathilda*cough*

  • @catspaw3092
    @catspaw3092 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    To the Duke get too cocky & too arrogant be prepared to fall & fall hard but imagine if Jane had won & kept her crown as queen.

  • @siliari
    @siliari 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yesterday, long time ago, this queen's life was ended. (20/7/2020)

  • @Happymind-happyworld.
    @Happymind-happyworld. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These cowards let a 15 year old they forced into power to fend for herself 🙄

  • @kathrynjordan8782
    @kathrynjordan8782 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The real Game of Thrones.

  • @tubaishansol
    @tubaishansol ปีที่แล้ว

    "wondering if they backed the wrong queen" more like Forced Lady Jane onto an unwanted throne then abandoning her. Fools.

  • @cookiecat2168
    @cookiecat2168 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Woah that um got going fast
    Mary:ok now come on
    Soldier:can I run
    Mary:No

  • @SNP-1999
    @SNP-1999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "People were being told what to believe" (referring to the English Protestant Reformation under Edward) I beg your pardon!? The Roman Catholic Church had dictated for a thousand years what the people had to believe, or not - and woe betide anybody who contested the church. Furthermore, the Catholic Church quoted from the Bible....entirely in Latin, a language only a minority understood ! So where's the difference, I ask you?

  • @jaesmith3340
    @jaesmith3340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I the only one bothered by the narrator and historian handling these ancient historical documents without gloves!?