It's great to have the perspectives of both the seller and the buyer, seeing how both machines handled the different grass types. Don't forget to hit that LIKE button and have a great day everyone ❤
Harry was gracious. While he owned the JD, he was still very complimentary of the Toro. Class act! PS: Although a Torophile, the JD was undeniably a nice piece of equipment. Thanks for the video!
Excellent Tests. I would have loved (for curiosity) have seen the race without the blades on. Toro had a good reputation of being able to cut well at full speed. Very nice cutting different grass! 💪 Best test I've seen you do between 2 mowers. 🙏🏾
Ha ha, well, I'm sure I'm biased - I have a JD Z960M (2020 model). To me, they looked very similar, but I'll have to go with the results of test #2 - it looked like the Deere mulched maybe a little better. Not surprising, as Deeres are known for their good decks. But, since I don't mulch, it wouldn't make that big of a difference for me. I'm not a landscaper, just own a home with 5+ acres, so I need a serious machine to handle all of it (especially since I get rained out fairly often and have to go quite a bit longer than I should between mowings). Also, I do like the faster traveling speed of the Toro - there are times when I could use that, not often, though. Thanks to both guys - love seeing and learning from all of these kinds of videos!
Not sure who told you John deere are know for good decks but there not. Mostly stamp decks. Maybe the commercial ones are better but certainly not the residential mowers.
First time I watched one of your videos. I'm a fan of Al Blades. I think it's great you giving him a new mower. I told him it was like blessing networking.
well matched up and both great mowers I agree with the service that some dealerships have but what we do for our customers is when they drop off a mower for repair they load a demo of the equivalent and never miss a beat !!we have several stand on and commercial Z turns demos available its a win win for us
Expo and then standers thanks for the video guys l loved it maybe l can get JD to demo the new 800 series stander Toro versus JD again thanks and God bless Harry and Susan Erhart Erhart landscaping
@@chiphawthorne4248 me too my favorite time of the year and my 40th year at Expo I'm looking forward to many years of friendship with Main St mower very impressed with your dealership and outstanding service 👍👍👍👍
I have a 52in Z Master 4000 HD with the FX801V and love it. That JD 7-Iron deck provides a nice cut, but it came down to price and features for me. The Toro was simply more competitive for the price IMO.
We currently do not have a video like that or even a JD on hand to record something like that. However, you might want to consider calling our store in case you need info about the d-4000
I gotta Z930A (Z930R now) it has cross ported hydros with a 30hp Kawi and 60” MOD deck. Even cutting thick wet grass it still has a clean cut and strips all at the same time. I know there are other greats brands but you really can’t beat a z900 series. I can’t speak for the M model because I’ve never had the opportunity to run one but I’m sure they are pretty close in comparison. But then again the newer the mower the cheaper it’s built.
The 7 Iron is a much better all around deck, especially in the north where the true test of how a deck cuts happens. ANY deck will cut stiff southern grass, especially at those low heights. Wet northern turf, the JD is hands down better. That JD is in the same class as the Toro 6000 machines, not the 4000 series.
the deere 7 iron is higher capacity better air flow and deeres blades are thicker the design is by far superior you can not bend a blade or spindle. the toro is a good mower also
Why do all the toro i see mow so well but the one i own does not i have the 4000 hdx 31 hp with the 52" electric deck and the myride and it mows like crap since i bought it brand new 2 years ago
The JD Mod deck is trash and it’s well documented on the Lawnsite Forum. Compare the Toro without a kit to the standard 7 iron pro and you will see what that Deere is really all about. I don’t even own a Deere but I’ve seen them operate and I have to hand it to them. Might just be my next machine.
@@mainstreetmowerthe MOD (Mulching on Demand) deck is an option on all the 900 series JD’s. It has the tighter baffling and the chute blocker. The standard JD 7 iron pro is the standard deck that comes on those machines and is in the top 2 best 2 cutting decks made in all around conditions. Exmark Ultra Cut (probably the best in dry conditions but can’t touch the standard 7 iron pro in damp lush grass because of clumping and dispersal. Most decks have preferred conditions for its best cut. The standard 7iron pro does the best in all around conditions. I’ve read very few reviews where anyone really raved about that (MOD) deck used in your video. JD dealers I know actually have a hard time selling their mowers with that particular deck. You need to try that same mower with the standard deck is my suggestion but If mulching is a necessity on your accounts it is what it is the Toro just may be the choice. We don’t run many Toro’s in the south but Exmark (the Toro cousin) is pretty prevalent around here along with Skag and JD.
This is not a John Deere vs. Toro. It's what motors are in them battle. Everything else is about the same. Toro and John Deere are nothing more than empty chassis.
It's great to have the perspectives of both the seller and the buyer, seeing how both machines handled the different grass types. Don't forget to hit that LIKE button and have a great day everyone ❤
Love it! That was the objective of this video. Glad you liked it. Thank you 🙂
I just took delivery of a Toro 4000 HDX Pro XL 35 hp Kawasaki with a 72" deck. It is amazing!!!
You make me "red" with envy!!!
@@williamnewsome5169 Nice 👌😂
Enjoy the Mow! 🙂
Enjoy your new mower
Got 2 the same only 60” last year. Over 500 hours on both. These are awesome mowers
Harry was gracious. While he owned the JD, he was still very complimentary of the Toro. Class act! PS: Although a Torophile, the JD was undeniably a nice piece of equipment. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely agree with everything you said there. Shout out to Harry for being a great co-host.
Thanks my friend
Excellent Tests. I would have loved (for curiosity) have seen the race without the blades on. Toro had a good reputation of being able to cut well at full speed. Very nice cutting different grass! 💪 Best test I've seen you do between 2 mowers. 🙏🏾
That's awesome. Thank you for sharing. Really appreciate it 🙂
Enjoy watching!
Thank you Sheryl. Your generosity is greatly appreciated.
Ha ha, well, I'm sure I'm biased - I have a JD Z960M (2020 model). To me, they looked very similar, but I'll have to go with the results of test #2 - it looked like the Deere mulched maybe a little better. Not surprising, as Deeres are known for their good decks. But, since I don't mulch, it wouldn't make that big of a difference for me. I'm not a landscaper, just own a home with 5+ acres, so I need a serious machine to handle all of it (especially since I get rained out fairly often and have to go quite a bit longer than I should between mowings). Also, I do like the faster traveling speed of the Toro - there are times when I could use that, not often, though. Thanks to both guys - love seeing and learning from all of these kinds of videos!
Thank you for sharing. That's great insight.
Not sure who told you John deere are know for good decks but there not. Mostly stamp decks. Maybe the commercial ones are better but certainly not the residential mowers.
I just took ownership of my 52 inch toro 4000 pro hdx with the 25.5 hp kawi and absolutely love it!
That's awesome. Enjoy the mow!
Great comparison vid
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it 🙂
Thanks for helping Al Bladez❤
Absolutely, it was our pleasure. 🙂
Another excellent vid
Thank you Richard 🙂
First time I watched one of your videos. I'm a fan of Al Blades. I think it's great you giving him a new mower. I told him it was like blessing networking.
Great demo!
Thank you 🙂
Thank you enjoyed it
We're glad Andrea 🙂
well matched up and both great mowers I agree with the service that some dealerships have but what we do for our customers is when they drop off a mower for repair they load a demo of the equivalent and never miss a beat !!we have several stand on and commercial Z turns demos available its a win win for us
What company ?
Nice way to do business 😁
Where are you? In Florida?
North Carolina based Quality Equipment LLC
Nice 🙂
Expo and then standers thanks for the video guys l loved it maybe l can get JD to demo the new 800 series stander Toro versus JD again thanks and God bless Harry and Susan Erhart Erhart landscaping
Harry, you were a pleasure to work with, sir! I look forward to seeing you at expo
@@chiphawthorne4248 me too my favorite time of the year and my 40th year at Expo I'm looking forward to many years of friendship with Main St mower very impressed with your dealership and outstanding service 👍👍👍👍
"These guys that sit in the showroom all the time can't handle the heat" - TRUE lol!
That had me in stitches too🤣
cool video I enjoyed it thanks 👍 I liked the toro better.
Great. Thanks for watching 🙂
Both great mowers, we all win.
I really enjoy both mowers but there is something special about John Deere mowers always a nice ride and never left me any issues
At the end of the day it does come down to your preference and the dealer support you have available. Both great units though 🙂
I have a 52in Z Master 4000 HD with the FX801V and love it. That JD 7-Iron deck provides a nice cut, but it came down to price and features for me. The Toro was simply more competitive for the price IMO.
Makes total sense. Hope youre enjoying your 4000
Id love to see a matchup between the toro vs a cub cadet m60. Ive heard they have a really nice cut
That should make a great video. Let us see if we can arrange it. Thanks for the suggestion.
Ótimo vídeo amigos
Gracias hombre
Ready set go !!!........🤩🤩🤩
Super mowers they run fast Perfect,a job well done men...,..🥳🥳🥳
Thank you 🙂
Thank you for the gift to Al blaze
It was our pleasure ☺
Used to live in Pasco where trinity is. Hello former neighbor. Lol. Nice John Deere
Both mulch decks😊
Tweels front and rear is best for comfort
I just switched back to stock for a trade in and it was easily noticeable
Cool
🙂
Toro forsure
All day!
👀 GRAVELY PRO TURN 660? I'd love to get a good comparison video with you one day, sounds like good fun content.
Absolutely man. Lets do it!
I'm looking for a comparison between a Toro D-4000 -vs- JD 1600 Turbo TerrainCut; I am wanting to purchase one for our School District of 700+ acres.
We currently do not have a video like that or even a JD on hand to record something like that. However, you might want to consider calling our store in case you need info about the d-4000
For cutting countryside pastures i would buy the John deere. H2n when cutting more manicured urban type properties i would want the toro 4000 mower.
Love this!
🤣
I will have to have a mulch kit. I don't like the side discharge.
I gotta Z930A (Z930R now) it has cross ported hydros with a 30hp Kawi and 60” MOD deck. Even cutting thick wet grass it still has a clean cut and strips all at the same time. I know there are other greats brands but you really can’t beat a z900 series. I can’t speak for the M model because I’ve never had the opportunity to run one but I’m sure they are pretty close in comparison. But then again the newer the mower the cheaper it’s built.
The z930r has a fx801v engine that puts out 26hp.
You guys should put a couple Ballard Gold blades under each (SHARP) and do it again. 🤣😁
My blades you could shave with Fisher Barton makes J D blades a lot better than Chinese blades from Ballard where do his blades come from??
Anyone seen the self sharpening blades?? anyone that's tried them never go back to the standard blades
How about the Scag Tiger Cat 2 vs the Toro 4000 Scag 32 vanguard carb 61 vs the Toro 4000 60 31 Kawasaki carb😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
Oooh sounds fun. Let's plan it out.
Let's see what the hurricane brings maybe before l go to Expo on October 14th
@@harryerhart5978 Ok harry, let me run it by the team
PLEASE DO TORO 4000 vs BAD BOY ROGUE!!!
We will see if we can get our hands on a rogue. No promises though, because it gets really hard to get a new unit and dog it like we do 🙃
@@mainstreetmower understandable for sure! 😂 Fingers crossed!!
@@bobbyhughes4895 🤞
Or bad boy Rebels
Bad Boy
Who else mows with one hand
👇
I think he will trade the John Deere in for a toro soon. Next cutting season he will be on a toro. Hahahaha
haha yes he made the switch not too long after the video.
It's all preference. You need to drive them.
Absolutely agreed. Your personal preferences and the most reliable service you can get.
I think it was a dead on draw both Toro and John Deere are good mowers
Agreed, both great mowers
Why would you go to a dealer for spark plugs?? It's a Jawi engine
The 7 Iron is a much better all around deck, especially in the north where the true test of how a deck cuts happens. ANY deck will cut stiff southern grass, especially at those low heights. Wet northern turf, the JD is hands down better. That JD is in the same class as the Toro 6000 machines, not the 4000 series.
Nothing against John Deere at all but overall I would have to go with Toro
True, JD is great. But in this test I felt TORO took the cake.
deere rides rougher but the tuff torq hydros are smoother and stronger than hydro gears
The 960m is gone 🙂. Scag Tiger Cat 2 61 is next 32 Briggs Vanguard 😮😮😮
Oh that's so sad Harry, going to miss that beautiful machine. Very happy for you though.
No more service problems with JD the dealership is fine but unit problems clutch deck bearing problems you need 2 machines when one is in the shop😡
Prolly should've told him to wear john deere pants, socks and shoes as well.
Hahaha
the deere 7 iron is higher capacity better air flow and deeres blades are thicker the design is by far superior you can not bend a blade or spindle. the toro is a good mower also
Why do all the toro i see mow so well but the one i own does not i have the 4000 hdx 31 hp with the 52" electric deck and the myride and it mows like crap since i bought it brand new 2 years ago
Something must be wrong with it, get your dealer to check it out
Take it to main St mower they are the best 🙂
@@harryerhart5978 Thanks Harry, you're the best 🙂
Whoever mowed that dudes yard better be paying him! That was a hatchet job, someone could have done better with a sickle from the 1600's
Haha! I know, we were shocked!
The JD Mod deck is trash and it’s well documented on the Lawnsite Forum. Compare the Toro without a kit to the standard 7 iron pro and you will see what that Deere is really all about. I don’t even own a Deere but I’ve seen them operate and I have to hand it to them. Might just be my next machine.
which JD are you considering?
@@mainstreetmowerthe MOD (Mulching on Demand) deck is an option on all the 900 series JD’s. It has the tighter baffling and the chute blocker. The standard JD 7 iron pro is the standard deck that comes on those machines and is in the top 2 best 2 cutting decks made in all around conditions. Exmark Ultra Cut (probably the best in dry conditions but can’t touch the standard 7 iron pro in damp lush grass because of clumping and dispersal. Most decks have preferred conditions for its best cut. The standard 7iron pro does the best in all around conditions. I’ve read very few reviews where anyone really raved about that (MOD) deck used in your video. JD dealers I know actually have a hard time selling their mowers with that particular deck. You need to try that same mower with the standard deck is my suggestion but If mulching is a necessity on your accounts it is what it is the Toro just may be the choice. We don’t run many Toro’s in the south but Exmark (the Toro cousin) is pretty prevalent around here along with Skag and JD.
As far as which one I’m considering I’m between the 950 and the 960. Trying to decide if I need the 2 extra HP for 2k more. Decisions, decisions.
This is not a John Deere vs. Toro. It's what motors are in them battle.
Everything else is about the same. Toro and John Deere are nothing more than empty chassis.
Oooh that's a bit of oversimplification in my opinion but I understand your sentiment.
Mower deck also😊
The engine were the same. 31hp Kawasaki’s.
Stihl zero turn
It's a Ferris but maybe so great idea
I mow baseball,footbal,multi-use fields. WE DON'T use these!!! REELMASTERS BABY!!!
Oooh those are good too.
Toro
Yesss
I perfer the john deere. Toro reminds me of California great to look at, but eventually you end up leaving.
deere parts are everywhere never out stock and they give a mower if yours is broke down but they are a tank wow bias
Live to far away. But my 2 craftsman tractor will smoke you in high grass.n