The best birria en the rivera of the lake you will find it in the Portales of Jocotepec, inexpensive and with the real flavor or birria Jaliscience. You can acompany that with a bit of onion and lemon, and some warm corn tortillas, the best of the best. Also in Joco the icecream is super good and because of the wind, a favorite activity is to fly kites, I have done it, many many times. During a regular afternoon there is a plethora of kite vendors. Jocotepec's malecon is usually not that quiet, it gets pretty crowded in the afternoons and weekends. Greetings.
I have stayed a week in Joco and a week in Ajijic. There are pluses and minuses for both places. There is a huge support group there in Ajijic with the Lake Chapala Society...many activities, beautiful place, and instant friends. If someone is moving there and knows very little Spanish (or the culture), you will be embraced by like-minded people instantly in Ajijic. In one week, I made friends that I will probably have the rest of my life. In Joco, there are not so many expats. The week we stayed there, we actually became friends with the Mexican family in the house across the street from our rental house. It was fun because they spoke virtually no English and we just speak a little Spanish. But, we really ran into almost no other Americans during the week we stayed there. I LOVED the city of Jocotepec, though. It is larger and has many different areas with various things to offer. I am planning to retire to Mexico and likely to Lake Chapala. I'm torn about which city to choose. Another really charming town between Ajijic and Chapala is San Antonio Tlayacapan. Closer to Ajijic than Joco, but more authentically Mexican. That being said, NONE of the towns are overrun with expats. Mexicans are still in the vast majority, so you will never feel like you are living in America unless perhaps you decide to buy a house in one of the gated communities that locks out Mexicans. I find that just silly and would never consider doing that! Thank you for sharing the malecon. It is peaceful, but the town of Joco is nice, too! The center has a beautiful plaza where (without COVID) families go to hang out in the evening with lots of food vendors, ice cream, roasted nuts, everything!!
I forgot to say San Antonio seems to be cool too I have a feeling more gringos will be going there Next to Ajijic short bus ride or ride in car less gas About Jocotepec, according to the TH-cam videos I see , people say one should have a little experience speaking Spanish But it looks like a beautiful town and the rents are very reasonable Please comment back if you can I plan on returning to Ajijic area soon Thanks
I live in Riberas (between Chapala and Ajijic) and I'm moving to Jocotepec tomorrow. I agree with you. Jocotepec is beautiful and filled with true Mexican culture. Ajijic is overcrowded, expensive, mostly expats and difficult to navigate. Thank you for your nice visit and commentary. Safe travels!
As a Lakeside native, I'm disappointed you skipped over Ajijic (the best town) on your way to Joco, but I understand not wanting to spend time searching for it's hidden gems. I get the amount of options is a bit overwhelming. If you guys ever find yourselves in Ajijic, I highly recommend Cenaduria Memo (half a block from the plaza) for their amazing pozole.
How would you know. You didn’t spend any time anywhere. It’s sort of like going to the Guadalajara airport and saying you didn’t like Guadalajara. Ridiculous.
Over the last 10 years, I've visited all the lakeside villages, many times. My favorite village is Ajijic, not for the expats, but for the sweet Mexican family, who lives, a few blocks from the plaza. They include me in weddings, Christmas, graduations, fiestas! I love that I can walk around the village and see many people, I met at church or other activities, Even friends driving by in cars yell out a lunch invite. The owner, of a fav restaurant has driven me and friends home, a few times. The hotel trusted me and a restaurant nextdoor fed me, when, on arrival, I had a bank issue. I've even danced with the Mayor, at the Women's Shawl Festival! Don't skip Ajijic, it made the list of Magical Towns. Biirra is often served at weddings and other celebrations, but is great for a hangover, the next day, at brunch. Menudo, made with cow belly, is the traditional Mexican breakfast soup.
It's a lake there in Jocotepec not an ocean 😊😊 I love the music in your video!! And I'm with you...you go on vacation and you want authenticity. But I'd say don't hate on the expats...if you think about it, these are people brave enough to pick up and live in another country. Its a big deal. And there are expats all over the world.
Hate is wrong word Being critical or even disagreeing with others doesn't mean one hates However , I agree with you It is brave to pick up and go live in another country thanks
@@chrisb2477the context in which I used the word hate is more out of the urban dictionary. It's not serious...and it's a bit of a joke. I use this word with friends all the time...no offense to anyone! Thanks! :) Hating Hating is the end result of being a hater. Hating is wide spread, very popular and a highly enjoyable past time for many. Contrary to popular belief, Hating is not due to jealousy bur rather the good feeling of putting someone down while simultaneously increasing your own ego. Many victims are hated on because of their success, but many more are hated due to their lack of it. Most hating is a result of the victims bragging and/or 'My turds don't stink' attitude. There are many forms of hating, some common examples are: first person hating (face to face), Hating in the second degree (privately hating an individual), Group hating (hating on a particular group aka race, religion, sexual orientation etc.)
Hi Angela I don't think you are a hater and i think you are very intelligent and well educated , but sometimes people use words in an incorrect way no offense many use words in an exaggerated way or just the way they learn from society no one is perfect and neither am I I try not to use words out of context And often I go to the dictionary to refresh my memory and / or learn a new word ,or to be careful not to use vocabulary that could be exaggerated or carry a the wrong effect For example , someone said ,"Those shoes are AWESOME ' A friend of mine told me on the side that the shoes weren't awesome they were colorful She said that '' The Grand Canyon is awesome ' I knew she was right and already knew the definition but I looked on the internet using a good a good dictionary And coincidentally , the example used in a sentence was The Grand Canyon is AWESOME sometimes people abandon their language skills to exaggerate words and descriptions often without realizing it But there others out there NOT YOU THOUGH who refer to others as haters if another disagrees or makes a critical comment . I hear and see it in society frequently I liked your response to me I like Ajijic and surrounding towns I intend to return to that area in June I lived in San Miguel de Allende 6 months and Ajijic 6 months Thanks for your kind response
@Colmillo Blanco You tell it exactly the way it is ! Years ago a woman was raped in a busy New York City subway while people passing by did nothing There was another incident too Subway train employee did nothing to help As far as friends , it's disappointing to watch some TH-cam vloggers open up their videos saying how wonderful it is to " connect " with their friends friends have each other's phone numbers , go to each other's homes have lunch or dinner together and help each other out . How insincere and phony to refer to TH-cam viewers one doesn't know as friends And add some lipstick and cleavage to manipulate viewers to get " likes" They must be learning from Television news anchors in the USA They don't do that on the BBC or CBC thanks
I watched the video because I wanted to see the town but you didn't really show the town, just the waterfront so I think the title was kind of off. Perhaps it's an opportunity to go back and actually take some footage of the town so people can see what there is to do there. Thanks
I've lived in my wifes home town of Jocotepec for 11 years and counting , I think it was unfortunate that you didn't go into the town of Jocotepec, it really is more of a Mexican town than Ajijic , you will be hard pressed to find a sign in English .
yes there are still precautions people are taking in mexico and jalisco to help in not spreading this virus which by the wat has not gone away ... it still exists in chapala it is good to see that TRAVEL is not high on their priority list ....
Happy Thanksgiving from Aguascalientes where we are vacationing until the 30th - we got here on the 20th. Un abrazo from Jody and Jorge (the couple from Dallas, Texas, who is moving to Querétaro in 2022). ¡Feliz día de acción de gracias! :-)
There was no lockdown in Jalisco as far as I know. They had an earlier curfew which meant everything had to be shut by 7pm, but this was in the middle of the day on a Monday.
Oh and although I can afford to rent a decent home in Ajijic I 'm thinking of the surrounding area next to Ajijic , possibly Chapala as well as Jocotepec or San Antonio wherever there's safe neighborhoods I'm a little tired of paying expensive rents to gringo landlords who charge the highest prices for rent some are reasonable but my experience in Ajijic is better renting from locals some realtors are good too
Hi I really like your videos I agree Although I think Ajijic is a great place, there are so many really cool towns around stretching from Jocotepec all the way to Chapala And there's a bus line that goes in between as you mentioned I would like to save money and have considered living in less expensive beautiful towns other than Ajijic but my Spanish needs improvement and I'm trying . So I'll see But I may still be able to do it Thanks and I"d also like to see Mr. External Expat too Maybe you cant start him out in the background Just kidding
HI I didn't say or my Spanish is poor I said it needs improvement poco a poco for some I also have Mexican friends Not just acquaintances Although I traveled to many Mexican Cities ,I've planted myself in both San Miguel de Allende and Ajijic for 6 months each where people know me for an extended period of time Although I have been back in USA for almost a year , there's not a day that goes by without me communicating with one of my Mexican , Canadian or friends from the USA down there I have both doses of vaccines now and plan to return to Mexico soon I'm fortunate I have a pension that allows me to live better than some but I 'm not looking to pay high rent for renting a home at the moment so I'm considering renting a home or apartment with a pool in Jocotepec , The city you guys traveled to about 5 miles outside of Ajijic Or San Antonio bordering Ajijic and yes if I live in Jocotepec life will be a bit challenging without running into expats all day but then I'll be challenged to learn Spanish quicker Or if I get a Mexican girlfriend I would consider it the most enjoyable immersion class I could get Many people have told me it works @@SandraBegotka I really enjoy the videos you and Dave make and continue to be supportive
One thing When I was in San Miguel de Allende I had a great Expat landlord I found the apartment from a realty in town good price everything included Great cable too but down the street some people from USA bought a large home and an adjoining apartment and raised rent 20 % -25 % without doing much other than just clean a little Maybe the local government can put a cap on rents like what's being done in a city in New Jersey Other cities in USA need to also With cost of living continuing going up in USA ,we'll be seeing a greater amount of gringos going to Latin America
It's sad to see people displaced and have to move 3 , 4, 5 miles or more from where they were raised , spend hours on buses or paying taxis to travel to and from work or go shopping the poor often suffer
How funny I just came across this video. They’re next to Lake Chapala and surprised why it’s quiet. It’s so contaminated no one can swim in it and there’s no one around for that reason.. some of these videos are hilarious
I'm going to the area late June or July Sounds good but my Spanish isn't good enough yet for me to function there Ajijic is easy but sounds good because I might get a car . People often say to go into Spanish immersion courses But I'm not as as sharp as I was I when I was younger and graduated from The Defense Language Institute in Monterey CA Poco a Poco for me However , long term gringos tell me the best way to learn Spanish is to become immersed in a relationship with a Latina I can do that
Actually , I really love the Mexican culture and have learned a little over the time I spent there I lived in Mexico for a little more than a year SMA and Ajijic
My Canadian uncle has lived in Chula Vista near Ajjijac for 15 years. Loves it. I’ve been there 3 times. Wonderful area.
The best birria en the rivera of the lake you will find it in the Portales of Jocotepec, inexpensive and with the real flavor or birria Jaliscience. You can acompany that with a bit of onion and lemon, and some warm corn tortillas, the best of the best. Also in Joco the icecream is super good and because of the wind, a favorite activity is to fly kites, I have done it, many many times. During a regular afternoon there is a plethora of kite vendors. Jocotepec's malecon is usually not that quiet, it gets pretty crowded in the afternoons and weekends. Greetings.
There were lots of kids flying kites while we were at the park. We were there pretty early on a Monday so I'm sure that's why it was so quiet.
I have stayed a week in Joco and a week in Ajijic. There are pluses and minuses for both places. There is a huge support group there in Ajijic with the Lake Chapala Society...many activities, beautiful place, and instant friends. If someone is moving there and knows very little Spanish (or the culture), you will be embraced by like-minded people instantly in Ajijic. In one week, I made friends that I will probably have the rest of my life. In Joco, there are not so many expats. The week we stayed there, we actually became friends with the Mexican family in the house across the street from our rental house. It was fun because they spoke virtually no English and we just speak a little Spanish. But, we really ran into almost no other Americans during the week we stayed there. I LOVED the city of Jocotepec, though. It is larger and has many different areas with various things to offer. I am planning to retire to Mexico and likely to Lake Chapala. I'm torn about which city to choose. Another really charming town between Ajijic and Chapala is San Antonio Tlayacapan. Closer to Ajijic than Joco, but more authentically Mexican. That being said, NONE of the towns are overrun with expats. Mexicans are still in the vast majority, so you will never feel like you are living in America unless perhaps you decide to buy a house in one of the gated communities that locks out Mexicans. I find that just silly and would never consider doing that! Thank you for sharing the malecon. It is peaceful, but the town of Joco is nice, too! The center has a beautiful plaza where (without COVID) families go to hang out in the evening with lots of food vendors, ice cream, roasted nuts, everything!!
Chapala = resort town for Mexicans
Ajijic = expat town for Gringos
Jocotepec = real Mexican town for Mexicans who live & work there
I forgot to say San Antonio seems to be cool too I have a feeling more gringos will be going there Next to Ajijic short bus ride or ride in car less gas About Jocotepec, according to the TH-cam videos I see , people say one should have a little experience speaking Spanish But it looks like a beautiful town and the rents are very reasonable Please comment back if you can I plan on returning to Ajijic area soon Thanks
I live in Riberas (between Chapala and Ajijic) and I'm moving to Jocotepec tomorrow. I agree with you. Jocotepec is beautiful and filled with true Mexican culture. Ajijic is overcrowded, expensive, mostly expats and difficult to navigate. Thank you for your nice visit and commentary. Safe travels!
As a Lakeside native, I'm disappointed you skipped over Ajijic (the best town) on your way to Joco, but I understand not wanting to spend time searching for it's hidden gems. I get the amount of options is a bit overwhelming. If you guys ever find yourselves in Ajijic, I highly recommend Cenaduria Memo (half a block from the plaza) for their amazing pozole.
How would you know. You didn’t spend any time anywhere. It’s sort of like going to the Guadalajara airport and saying you didn’t like Guadalajara. Ridiculous.
Lake Chapala looks appealling to me, in touch with nature. Enjoyable video. Wish I was there and learning lots from your videos. Thankyou😎
Over the last 10 years, I've visited all the lakeside villages, many times. My favorite village is Ajijic, not for the expats, but for the sweet Mexican family, who lives, a few blocks from the plaza. They include me in weddings, Christmas, graduations, fiestas! I love that I can walk around the village and see many people, I met at church or other activities, Even friends driving by in cars yell out a lunch invite. The owner, of a fav restaurant has driven me and friends home, a few times. The hotel trusted me and a restaurant nextdoor fed me, when, on arrival, I had a bank issue. I've even danced with the Mayor, at the Women's Shawl Festival! Don't skip Ajijic, it made the list of Magical Towns. Biirra is often served at weddings and other celebrations, but is great for a hangover, the next day, at brunch. Menudo, made with cow belly, is the traditional Mexican breakfast soup.
It's a lake there in Jocotepec not an ocean 😊😊 I love the music in your video!! And I'm with you...you go on vacation and you want authenticity. But I'd say don't hate on the expats...if you think about it, these are people brave enough to pick up and live in another country. Its a big deal. And there are expats all over the world.
Hate is wrong word Being critical or even disagreeing with others doesn't mean one hates However , I agree with you It is brave to pick up and go live in another country thanks
@@chrisb2477the context in which I used the word hate is more out of the urban dictionary. It's not serious...and it's a bit of a joke. I use this word with friends all the time...no offense to anyone! Thanks! :)
Hating
Hating is the end result of being a hater. Hating is wide spread, very popular and a highly enjoyable past time for many. Contrary to popular belief, Hating is not due to jealousy bur rather the good feeling of putting someone down while simultaneously increasing your own ego. Many victims are hated on because of their success, but many more are hated due to their lack of it. Most hating is a result of the victims bragging and/or 'My turds don't stink' attitude.
There are many forms of hating, some common examples are: first person hating (face to face), Hating in the second degree (privately hating an individual), Group hating (hating on a particular group aka race, religion, sexual orientation etc.)
Hi Angela I don't think you are a hater and i think you are very intelligent and well educated , but sometimes people use words in an incorrect way no offense many use words in an exaggerated way or just the way they learn from society no one is perfect and neither am I I try not to use words out of context And often I go to the dictionary to refresh my memory and / or learn a new word ,or to be careful not to use vocabulary that could be exaggerated or carry a the wrong effect For example , someone said ,"Those shoes are AWESOME '
A friend of mine told me on the side that the shoes weren't awesome they were colorful She said that '' The Grand Canyon is awesome ' I knew she was right and already knew the definition but I looked on the internet using a good a good dictionary And coincidentally , the example used in a sentence was The Grand Canyon is AWESOME sometimes people abandon their language skills to exaggerate words and descriptions often without realizing it But there others out there NOT YOU THOUGH who refer to others as haters if another disagrees or makes a critical comment . I hear and see it in society frequently I liked your response to me I like Ajijic and surrounding towns I intend to return to that area in June I lived in San Miguel de Allende 6 months and Ajijic 6 months Thanks for your kind response
Oh I get my 2nd Pfizer vaccination next week and may be there sooner
@Colmillo Blanco You tell it exactly the way it is ! Years ago a woman was raped in a busy New York City subway while people passing by did nothing There was another incident too Subway train employee did nothing to help As far as friends , it's disappointing to watch some TH-cam vloggers open up their videos saying how wonderful it is to " connect " with their friends friends have each other's phone numbers , go to each other's homes have lunch or dinner together and help each other out . How insincere and phony to refer to TH-cam viewers one doesn't know as friends And add some lipstick and cleavage to manipulate viewers to get " likes" They must be learning from Television news anchors in the USA They don't do that on the BBC or CBC thanks
Chapala my hometown 💖
You can also visit another town called Mezcala de La Asuncion
Thanks for the tips!
the homemade ice cream in Jocotepec is the best in the world!!!! I miss it so much thanks for your videos they are great 👍🏼
I watched the video because I wanted to see the town but you didn't really show the town, just the waterfront so I think the title was kind of off. Perhaps it's an opportunity to go back and actually take some footage of the town so people can see what there is to do there. Thanks
I've lived in my wifes home town of Jocotepec for 11 years and counting , I think it was unfortunate that you didn't go into the town of Jocotepec, it really is more of a Mexican town than Ajijic , you will be hard pressed to find a sign in English .
We just ate at El Rincon Frida
Si, I prefer to spend my summers in Chapala and am glad most expats prefer Ajijic 😊
Loved L. Chapala and Ajijic. In my opinion, great for a days exploring.
yes there are still precautions people are taking in mexico and jalisco to help in not spreading this virus which by the wat has not gone away ... it still exists in chapala it is good to see that TRAVEL is not high on their priority list ....
The best view of lake chapala is not in the corners of it bit in the middle like san antonio and ajijic
Hey, is the water really as dirty as it looks?
Happy Thanksgiving from Aguascalientes where we are vacationing until the 30th - we got here on the 20th. Un abrazo from Jody and Jorge (the couple from Dallas, Texas, who is moving to Querétaro in 2022). ¡Feliz día de acción de gracias! :-)
Were they on Covid lock down maybe? I’ve been to Joco many times, and I’ve never seen it like that.
There was no lockdown in Jalisco as far as I know. They had an earlier curfew which meant everything had to be shut by 7pm, but this was in the middle of the day on a Monday.
Fun commentary! Thank you.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it :)
This place might be too quiet or even a little eerie for me..
Oh and although I can afford to rent a decent home in Ajijic I 'm thinking of the surrounding area next to Ajijic , possibly Chapala as well as Jocotepec or San Antonio wherever there's safe neighborhoods I'm a little tired of paying expensive rents to gringo landlords who charge the highest prices for rent some are reasonable but my experience in Ajijic is better renting from locals some realtors are good too
We hope to go somewhere with cool temps and WITHOUT a lot of expats....Puebla, Queretero, Oaxaca....not sure yet.
Check out Tapalpa Jalisco 🙌
El senor de monte and el senor del huaje did you see the churches in jocotepec?
Ocean or Lake Chapala?
Which do I prefer? The beach every time. It's a beautiful place to visit, but I'd much rather swim in the sea :)
@@laura-bronner I think he means, when you said "it's so refreshing to be by the ocean" 5:28. Thanks for another great video.
Beautiful 👏👏
It's such a beautiful spot!
Hi I really like your videos I agree Although I think Ajijic is a great place, there are so many really cool towns around stretching from Jocotepec all the way to Chapala And there's a bus line that goes in between as you mentioned I would like to save money and have considered living in less expensive beautiful towns other than Ajijic but my Spanish needs improvement and I'm trying . So I'll see But I may still be able to do it Thanks and I"d also like to see Mr. External Expat too Maybe you cant start him out in the background Just kidding
HI I didn't say or my Spanish is poor I said it needs improvement poco a poco for some I also have Mexican friends Not just acquaintances Although I traveled to many Mexican Cities ,I've planted myself in both San Miguel de Allende and Ajijic for 6 months each where people know me for an extended period of time Although I have been back in USA for almost a year , there's not a day that goes by without me communicating with one of my Mexican , Canadian or friends from the USA down there I have both doses of vaccines now and plan to return to Mexico soon I'm fortunate I have a pension that allows me to live better than some but I 'm not looking to pay high rent for renting a home at the moment so I'm considering renting a home or apartment with a pool in Jocotepec , The city you guys traveled to about 5 miles outside of Ajijic Or San Antonio bordering Ajijic and yes if I live in Jocotepec life will be a bit challenging without running into expats all day but then I'll be challenged to learn Spanish quicker Or if I get a Mexican girlfriend I would consider it the most enjoyable immersion class I could get Many people have told me it works @@SandraBegotka I really enjoy the videos you and Dave make and continue to be supportive
One thing When I was in San Miguel de Allende I had a great Expat landlord I found the apartment from a realty in town good price everything included Great cable too but down the street some people from USA bought a large home and an adjoining apartment and raised rent 20 % -25 % without doing much other than just clean a little Maybe the local government can put a cap on rents like what's being done in a city in New Jersey Other cities in USA need to also With cost of living continuing going up in USA ,we'll be seeing a greater amount of gringos going to Latin America
Chris.ole son.its a capitalist society.
It's sad to see people displaced and have to move 3 , 4, 5 miles or more from where they were raised , spend hours on buses or paying taxis to travel to and from work or go shopping the poor often suffer
Great another video
Thanks!
Yes you miss another great Malacon in Ajijic
Thank you
Timewise: Travel time from Jocotepec to Salt Water beaches?
Lakes here around Lake Chapala....salt water beaches are on the coast, hours away...check online maps...driving or busing ?
A minimum of 4 hours drive time.
Do you have one on guadalahara?
Next time drive to my hometown nearby called San Juan Tecomatlan
lol, we never see/hear Mr. Eternal Expat. Oh well, maybe he's just shy
hahaha! Mr. Eternal Expat, love it! He prefers to keep his privacy where possible :)
How funny I just came across this video. They’re next to Lake Chapala and surprised why it’s quiet. It’s so contaminated no one can swim in it and there’s no one around for that reason.. some of these videos are hilarious
Birria tatemada! Yummy :)
SO Yummy!!
Can I drive my american car there, I have a residentsy
Of course it’s quiet. There’s a pandemic going on.
Hey my parents and i are from jocotepec jalisco we have a house and land if youbguys need. To rent !!!
I'm going to the area late June or July Sounds good but my Spanish isn't good enough yet for me to function there Ajijic is easy but sounds good because I might get a car . People often say to go into Spanish immersion courses But I'm not as as sharp as I was I when I was younger and graduated from The Defense Language Institute in Monterey CA Poco a Poco for me However , long term gringos tell me the best way to learn Spanish is to become immersed in a relationship with a Latina I can do that
Actually , I really love the Mexican culture and have learned a little over the time I spent there I lived in Mexico for a little more than a year SMA and Ajijic
it is beautiful but why not alowed to be in the lake,at least with your feet...
Very very polluted
Waaauuhhh. Visit my country MÉXICO. Ajjaaahh😉😉😉😉
I like jocotepec better than chapala, sorry lol
What do you mean you skipped over Ajijic? 😱hahaha
there are only gringo food texmex
Hard to find good food in chapala.ajijic has authentic Mexican places if you know where to find them.
Huh? How about Letra CH or Penguinos?
Prefer Chapala over the other towns around the Lake
En español latino
Gringolandia plus
How sad to be by a beautiful Lake like Lake Chapala and you can't swim in the water because it's dirty and polluted!
That lake is highly
Poluted.