Hi Donny, Great tip. I switched over to marine gas (ethanol free) here in the U.S. a couple of seasons ago and it's amazing how much better all my equipment runs. Considering how much gas I have to buy for a season, the extra expense is well worth experiencing fewer problems.
I have absolutely learned my lesson from ethanol based fuel. From now on only ethanol shield and 92 octane ethanol free fuel for me, I had a ton of issues from my small engines getting them ready for this season over the winter. Thanks donyboy73 for all of your excellent advise and valuable videos!!!
Thank you so much because of u I fixed my lawn mower thats been down for 3weeks because of this problem. Just to think of all my lawn mowers I got rid of em because they did the same thing!
Good video! I have these types of problems constantly coming into my shop. And the funny thing is there are 6 stations within 10 miles of me that all sell non ethanol fuel. People just don't want to pay extra per gallon for it, but have no issue paying someone to fix the problems caused by using it!
People are stupid and lazy idiots. Look at the comments... Claim they can't find it, or that there is magical additives you can buy to solve the problem. Asinine...
It took me some time to figure out that I should not be using fuel with Ethanol in it, but I finally figured it out on my own and began using fuel with no ethanol in it for all my lawn equipment, and got better results. For my saws, and weed trimmers, I buy the pre-mixed fuel from places like Wal-Mart and use that in those equipment, and on the lawn mowers I put only the high octane fuel in them. So far the equipment is working fine, and one neighbor who now works on my equipment said that he only use the high octane fuel in his equipment also.
That's a nice demo, Dony. My limited review of ethanol in fuel turned up three issues, degradation of rubber seals over time, dissolved water, and 'varnish' precipitates. The dissolved water issue is tricky because although ethanol will allow more moisture to contaminate the fuel at the air fuel interface, it also increases the capacity of such water molecules to be dissolved in the fuel rather than separating out at the bottom of the tank. Of course trace quantities of water dissolved in the fuel will most often harmlessly pass through the exhaust. But, separated water will make the motor choke and stall, and it might promote rust. Some people don't seem to realize that common gas line antifreeze is methanol or isopropyl alcohol, both alcohols. So, it doesn't make any sense to avoid alcohol in fuel and then add alcohol in the form of gas line antifreeze. To me, with ethanol already in fuel there isn't much point in gas line antifreeze, and the methanol in it can also cause corrosion of aluminum surfaces. Many here may be surprised to learn that alcohols are also premixed with the detergents of most fuel stabilizers. So, you are adding alcohol to your fuel if you use fuel stabilizer. One way to avoid some storage problems is to keep the tank completely full, reducing the amount of air in contact with the gas. That reduces the amount of water that will enter the gas from air inside the tank, and it will also reduce evaporation of the volatile elements in the gasoline (the most common cause of 'stale' gas). Gasoline lasts a long time if properly stored in an air tight container. By keeping the tank completely full I think there is less chance of rust from water condensing on the inner wall of the tank from cooling air over the winter. I've been storing my motorcycle with carefully measured quantities of fresh fuel stabilizer and tank full, but I also drain the carburetor to try and reduce evaporative varnish inside the carb....
Hi Dave I have experienced problems with fuel as well and most of the time I use premium to avoid it but for my generators I do use regular fuel and have noticed the red fuel stabilizer sold from can/tire or the brand name stabil does separate and is found in red swirls sitting on the bottom of the fuel tanks. For the past 3 seasons I have switched to using seafoam at one oz per gallon and so far the results are good with the tanks looking cleaner every season I use it . I did notice before small water pockets sitting on the bottom of the tank as Donny showed but it just ran thru the engine anyway but now I cant find anything but a clean metal tank, My big genset is 10 years old and the fuel bowl is cleaner as well. Works for me and a whole lot cheaper than that red stabilizer that did not work. By the way Donny did mentioned a stabilizer for ethanol fuels but I have never seen it yet on the store shelves, now this might be good as well.
Spent hours looking for the part number. Random video on your channel and I you told us 590781 for the ignition module for V twin motor.... Thank you. My issue was Craftsman lawn tractor start fine hen cold but if hot won't start. IE after mowing lawn. Let it sit an hour it would start. Real issue when you have to mow three lawns that day...
The ethanol attracts moisture from the air, that gets ' attached'to it and since the water is heavier than gas , it "un-blends"the gas/ethanol mix , which would be o.k. by itself. BUT,most of the ethanol drops down WITH THE WATER! This affects the octane amount in the remaining gas, and some or most engines won't run on it ..,especially two strokes.Never try to pour off the gas and save it ,as we individuals could in the 'pre ethanol' days. Even looking at a sample in a CLEAR container will not have the clear defining line between the gas-and-water like 'old school' gas would. Instead,it will be cloudy and gradual.This is called Phase Separation.I worked for an oil co. and many people had issues and assumed we had delivered bad gas.The problem was usually theirs,because we bought gas Daily,and it didn't have time to sit and go bad.We picked it up at the terminal and took it straight to whoever called for it.There are many choices of water finding pastes so read packaging well before buying any.Hope this helped.
thank you so much for this video. I needed this big time. My lawnmower is acting up just as you say..i can't wait to try this fix today. thank you again.
I have one of those 5 gallon water containers, I put all my old gas from machines that I work on in it. I then let it set for a couple days. The water and bad stuff will settle in the bottom. I then pump the good gasoline off the top. Being careful not get to low in the bad stuff. A good tip is to add a couple drops of food coloring to it. You can then see a definite line of good gas and the water.
I was about to take my carburetor apart until I viewed your video. I washed out my gas tank, cleaned the fuel line, and everything you showed. I also poured Sea Foam down the carburetor and let it set for a while. The gas I took out of the tank did have water in it. Thanks! You saved my Sears chipper. It now works great.
Have identical mower... for the last 10 years I've been waiting to replace it, but it just keeps going and going and going and ..... I do drain it and store it inside for winter. Bought it back in the mid 90's I think.
Great video Dony ! I started using VP SEF 50:1 in my 2 cycle engines it's a bit expensive but in the long run it saves you money on repairs and is a far Superior fuel it's pre-mixed with motul synthetic oil , 94 octane and NO damn ethanol !
I live in the mid hudson valley Ny and all of our gas has that crap in it all year around. I learned the hard way I have a back up generator that powers my house when we lose power. It does at least a few times a year. I am totally disabled and with out power I can only run my stuff on battery for so long. My gen set carb rusted out . Our local NAPA sells so many kits to rebuild carbs messed up by ethanal . The gaskets can go bad in just 1 season. Buy the good stuff to remove the ethanal.
Donny boy WD-40 removes.& Displaces water.&'moisture out of fuel tanks to. Even in your vehicles to that are not flex fuel rated with labels.& Emblems indicating such information. Will help fix & resolve your poor fuel issues.& Problems quicker.& Faster. Not always cheaper if not caught ahead of time though. One gallon jug of WD-40 last A quite A bit of time.
In the US, Shell V-Power 91 and 93 has a maximum of 5% ethanol and is the best volume seller unless you can find non-ethanol fuel from a marina or mom & pop station.
Ethanol doesn't affect car engines like it does small engines. Ethanol for small engines is often a slow death that negatively affects fuel lines, gaskets, and carbs. You can go online and check which gas stations locally sell non ethanol based fuels, or ask the cashier at the station. Usually have to bump up to 91 octane to get the non ethanol gas at the stations that offer it.
You can also have problems with straight gasoline. I just recently bought a Honda lawnmower from a guy who had the gasoline in the tank so long that it went bad. When I poured it out it smelled funny. But thanks to your video I will use the same technique that you are using to use the poured out gasoline as a cleaning solution. So gasoline will go bad if left unused for long periods of time and so will gasoline with 10% ethanol. But the gasoline with 10% ethanol is fully useable when you shake it up to remix itself with gasoline while gasoline gone bad cannot go back into the tank for use in small engines or our auto vehicles. Ethanol is not bad. However the perception of ethanol is severely misunderstood. I have been using 10% ethanol & gasoline for Jesus over a decade in my yard equipment and never had problems with the ethanol fuel mixture. But I have bought yard equipment with gasoline gone bad and I'll bet you more than half of America has experienced bad gasoline in their small engine equipment regularly.
I avoid small engine fuel related problems with my snowblower by buying gas at the end of December and only keeping it in a sealed storage container until the beginning of April. I then drain the snowblower gas tank and any remaining gas in storage into my car's gas tank and use it up so no gas is in storage over the summer to go bad or start a fire.
did you ever run into cases where that new fuel caused the float valve rubber seat to swell up and not let fuel enter the bowl properly, I have seen that a few times, as with a lot of new stuff, it causes more problems than it cures.
i am currently working on a generator that has a metal tank that rusted had to replace tank now have stuck rings. never use a metal tank with ethanol especially on a boat. had that trouble. not fun day of fishing when you fix it on the water or get towed in with bad weather
I'm not sure about small engines , but after using regular unleaded 87oct in my car for a little over a year, I recently ran a few tanks with " Heet iso with injecter(red bottle) cleaner" in my tank and now it runs a little smoother but where the huge difference came is in my gas gauge in the dash. Before it used to get horrible gas milage and would drop really fast and never read correctly and this is a 2005 model year. Now the gas gauge reads smooth and correct and doesn't bounce. Don't know if anything had to do with anything but if it removed water it helped.
I work for a Briggs generator dealer. And you are totally on point. They sent us a bulletin sayin "don't store fuel more than a month without stabilizer". And a double dose won't hurt it either
Well,that was a few years ago. When normal stabilizer was avalable. Now sta-bil makes an ethanol formula and star-tron makes a stabilizer too. I used the star-tron over this winter and it seemed to work great. I barely bumped the key on my mower this year and it fired right off
Dony, I love your videos, they are so informative. One thing I have not been able to find on your channel is any videos on mixed gasoline for 2-stroke engines. Do you use one mix for all 2-strokes? For instance I have a chainsaw and a weedeater that both want different mixes and i am working on restoring a mini tiller that also wants a different mix but is more complicated. Can you help me out? Here is what i have and what they want: Stihl MS 290 Farm Boss - Chainsaw - 50:1 McCulloch MAC 2818 - String Trimmer - 40:1 Mantis SV-2AE - Mini Tiller - This is powered by a KIORITS/ECHO engine The manual says: "The Approved fuel to oil ratio is 32 parts regular gasoline to 1 part of Echo approved oil, (32:1), 02 20 parts regular gasoline to 1 part oil when using another reputable 2-cycle air cooled engine oil, (20:1)." I would love to be able to just keep one mix on hand instead of 3. I found a small place nearby that sells gas without ethanol last year and now that is all i use in my small engines, the price is very close to regular gasoline.
Hi Donboy73 I have a lt133 John Deere riding mower and it takes a spell for it to stop, I found out the brakes could be adjusted, I was wondering if you had any videos adjusting brakes or how to adjust them thanks
I've seen gas with ethanol completely eat the gasket in the fuel shut off valve of a generator. It blocked the valve so that no fuel could get through.
Yes, it's horrible for small engines. Too many fools think there is some good solution other than just buying non-ethanol gasoline. I've fixed hundreds of small engines that were wrecked with Ethanol blended fuel. JUST STOP USING IT... PROBLEM SOLVED. But some people never listen
Do you have a remedy for the same situation in a two cycle engine. Have a Stihl FS 56 RC that is fouling out after short period of use. I've recently bought ethanol free gas and added fuel stabilizer. It's under warranty and they will fix it free if needed, but I need it regularly and can't wait for days. Anything else you can recommend and do you think there may be permanent damage? It seems to be running better now with new gas + treatment. Any info would be helpful. Thanks. Love your channel...learning a lot from your vids.
So just to make sure I understand what you are saying correctly. Is the ethanol in the gasoline breaking down to form water? That is crazy, I wouldn't have thought that, I always made the assumption that rainwater or condensation is where the water in the tank came from. Thanks for the vid, I will run the 91 octane Ethanol free gas from now on!
Water droplets in the fuel is definitely bad news!!! I will be using the CTC or Shell 91 octane fuel from now on, thanks for enlightening us about this serious problem!
its called " Phase Separation ". after 30 days the ethanol will separated from the gasoline and you cannot shake it back up to re-combine it. Ethanol attracts moisture from the AIR. buy some fresh gas and pour some into a clear glass container. let it sit overnight and you will see water droplets at the bottom.
In USA and Canada, you can go to pure-gas.org for help locating non-ethanol fuel. I found a station near me with premium fuel that was ethanol free, and I filled up my motorcycle, scooter, and mower tanks. Yesterday I started my scooter after putting it on the charger, and it started the instant I touched the starter (Honda CH150 Elite.) I also put a little Seafoam stabilizer in the tanks, can't hurt.
Hello, I've got a Craftsman leaf blower that lost its muffler, I found that the two screws holding it to the head have become stripped for some reason. They're not super loose, but enough so that vibration shakes them back out at some point. I tried some loc-tite (high temp) worked for an hour or so, same issue. Any thoughts? Thanks so much and your vids have always helped me out in the past!
You can try putting a narrow plate across the bolt holes and bend up or down the outside edge toward each bolt and that will hold it in place with all that shaking. 3/4" wide maybe and the length of the span from bolt to bolt plus a 1/2" on each side. The briggs mufflers usually come with something
Does it have big PIPE THREADS in the center,so you can screw in an aftermarket one ? If not,you can tap pipe threads in the big hole,BUT DONT LET THE TAP HIT AND BEND THE VALVE.
Preferably,buy new bolts,mix JB weld as per package directions an use a toothpick to apply to the bolt hole. Poke it to the bottom. It doesn't have to be full,but generous. Without installing the muffler, thread in the new bolts and wipe off excess JB weld. Allow to cure overnight. Remove the bolts and reinstall the the muffler. Start and run for about a minute about 45 seconds and gently apply a bit more torque to the bolts and you should be set
Great video Dony! Is placing the flat side of the float bowl facing the needle valve a general rule with all small engine carbs? I have a Honda HRR216 that I need to do to. Thanks!
One easy way to remove the ethanol from fresh gasoline.... If you have 10 litres of gasoline, add 1 litre of water, shake and let sit for 15 minutes, then drain the water from the bottom.... if you had 10% ethenol in the fuel at the beginning, you should end up draining about 2 litres of a mixture of water and ethanol, and what is left is pure ethanol free gasoline.
You did not mention how ethanol hardens the rubber components (pipes, seals valves). This hardening is a particular problem with two stroke carburetors. You could have explained why the water that the ethanol attracts causes corrosion to the zinc alloy in carburetors which then fouls jets. In the UK it is now impossible to get non-ethanol fuel. It is either 5 or 10 %. What i recommemd is run garden machinery on 5% then at the end of the sesson i drain the machinery and change oil. Dump any remaining fuel in to my car's gas tank (modern vehicles are designed to cope with up to 50% ethanol). I then run about half a pint of synthetic fuel through the machinery and leave it so it can leach out any ethanol in the rubber. BTW synthetic fuel costs around £20 a gallon so itit only gets used for winterising. Ethanol in fuel has sold more rechargeable tools than advertising has 😊
you have to go in and ask. here in MO all reg. gas has 10% ethanol and pump is labeled as such. in Ohio there is no regulation that says they have to label the pump. Be safe and go in and ask if you want non-ethanol fuel.
I didn't use my 2 year old toro 7.25 "guaranteed to start" mower all of last year, and I tried to start it this year, it was filled with old gas, I tried to start it and of course that didn't work, but now that I replaced the gas with new gas, it still won't start, I got it to burp twice and that's it. Did the ethanol ruin the engine? Any advise?
I just went through the same thing with a Toro that was sitting a year with stale gas. I removed and washed the tank. Let it dry , it still did not work. I removed the float bowl and squirted carb cleaner into the small holes and fuel intake line. It fixed it.
Because if phase separation occurs the gas that is left is something like 83 octane because the ethanol is an octane booster used with "base gas" to bring the blend up to regular, mid-grade or premium.
Ok, I'm now reviving a 10 year old video but, I'd like to say, I'm curious as to why for non ethanol (pure gasoline), and I've even heard of the top tier additives being the same, as far as availability only being limited to mid grade or higher for the additional top tier additives, and as for ethanol free, it only, still to this day is available for premium, which, even regular premium fuel already cuts engine knocking. I love pure gas, have only been able to get it a few times due to its much higher cost, and, I don't need a premium fuel, my owner manual states to run regular 87 unleaded as recommended, but it is a flex fuel vehicle also. I'm just curious as to why non oxygenated, non ethanol, whatever you want to call it is only available as premium? Anyone know? Thank you all in advance.
Clean motor oil works great for getting the gas smell out of skin (or hair if you took a bath in it). Of course motor oil is it's own mess to clean up, but it really works.
Another source of fuel is your local marina as the boats cannot run the ethanol fuel because of the water saturation. Ethanol is the worst bane of small engines.
Hey Dony, I wanna pick your brain a little. I work at a motorcycle shop in Maryland. We just had a guy bring in 2 old BSA motorcycles(early 60s). So obviously the hardware on these bikes is not standard(based off inch) but its also not metric(unless they use a lot of half sizes) None of my tools fit! Haha. someone told me they may be "Wentworth" but I havnt been able to find info on that. Let me know what yall think. Alex
As already noted search for Whitworth Wrench size and the Wikipedia link has good information. For a chart comparing wrench jaw sizes try the bottom of the page at www.baconsdozen.co.uk/tools/whitworth.htm
Another option is the use a mix of /32 SAE and some Metrics sockets / wrenches. Nice table in here: www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Whitworth_BSF_BA.htm
Donyboy, You can reuse the fuel if you remove the water. Since the water will settle to the bottom place the fuel in a clear bottle, like an old Gatorade container and let it sit until all water is at the bottom. Then decant the gas out of the bottle into another container leaving the water behind. To increase the burn ability you can mix the fuel with new fuel. I have had success using this method. Also this is the most environmentally friendly way to dispose of old fuel.
ethanol attracts moisture from the air naturally all day every day 24/7 365. the Ethanol separates from the fuel in 30 days and you cannot shake it back up together. that's why you use it or loose it. its called phase separation when the ethanol separates from the fuel
my 612 engine will not run on 100 percent gas why ive tried three times an each time it runs about ten mintes an shuts off I drain the tank an put gas with enthol in it an it starts an runs fine can any one tell me why
I'm in the US and have a 2016 Toro 826 OXE HD snow blower and was wondering if anyone has run 100LL AVgas in a newer Toro snowblower that has the Toro Premium engine made by Loncin? From what I've read, most people that use the 100LL aviation fuel in small carburetor engines report no problems. However, I have heard a few rumblings about this fuel in Honda small engines and since the Loncin engine is supposedly a clone of the Honda small engine, I thought I would ask if anyone has any experience. -- Dony, just another great informative video. Thanks as always for sharing your knowledge.
my God whod have thought different gases arent good here or there and these are good only here and there what a pain in the ass.. i have a feeling this is whats going on with the tecmseh lawnmower i had and probably wiht my omothers . neither will start after theyve sat for even a few hrs but once i spray carb cleaner into the filter they start right up and run no prolem... but once you need to use it agian next week its the same problem all over again. what a fuck they put into small engine repairs ..what if all gas all of a sudden starts coming wiht ethanol?
Dony or anyone else that could help... I have a yard machine lawn tractor, 15 hp Briggs and Straton engine, I was getting it dug out of my shed today after a long winter. It started very well for sitting for so long but I had a little trouble getting it out. I ran out of gas so I put some more in and tried starting it again and it gave a big backfire but then it started but it started blowing smoke. It always blew a little smoke at first but then cleared up but now it's really blowing constantly. It still runs and I got it outside and it still runs not too bad but holy cow it's blowin smoke. Any ideas of what it might be, did it blow the rings or something else. I would appreciate any help from anyone,, Thanks
Is it an OHV (overhead valve) Briggs engine. If so watch Donys vid of the VERY smokey riding mower, it had a blown head gasket. My personal opinion is that you would not have blown the rings from a backfire. I hope Donyboy73 can help you out, as I am curious what the problem is :)
ChargerMiles007 So I found the smoking tractor vid and that's definitely what mine is doing so I guess I'll be trying to fix it myself with a little help from all the videos I've watched. Dony is a very good teacher,,,,
ChargerMiles007 Yep that seems to be the conclusion alright. I got a new one so now I will try to get it fixed. Thanks to all the videos at least I have a clue how to now.. Stay tuned !!.
does anybody know what happen to ereplacements last time asking on this channel does canada sell non ethanol gas can't find here in waterbury ct have relatives in montreal will be visiting around april will bring truck with fuel tank in bed gonna buy all i can
I have found that pouring the fuel in a clear glass jar and then looking at it often you can see the water on the bottom, and fuel on the top. If you then pour as much of the fuel into another container (another clear glass jar is best) as you can without pouring any of the water you can go ahead and re-use the majority of the fuel.
ethanol attracts moisture from the air. if you just use the fuel in the glass jar and put it into the item you are using and run it right away I guess that would work. but remember ethanol attracts moisture from the air ALL the time
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Hi Donny, Great tip. I switched over to marine gas (ethanol free) here in the U.S. a couple of seasons ago and it's amazing how much better all my equipment runs. Considering how much gas I have to buy for a season, the extra expense is well worth experiencing fewer problems.
I have absolutely learned my lesson from ethanol based fuel. From now on only ethanol shield and 92 octane ethanol free fuel for me, I had a ton of issues from my small engines getting them ready for this season over the winter.
Thanks donyboy73 for all of your excellent advise and valuable videos!!!
thanks Gerald, have a good weekend!
You don't need Ethanol shield junk if you buy the correct fuel
Thank you so much because of u I fixed my lawn mower thats been down for 3weeks because of this problem. Just to think of all my lawn mowers I got rid of em because they did the same thing!
Good video Donny! Have yourself a great weekend!
thanks!
Good video! I have these types of problems constantly coming into my shop. And the funny thing is there are 6 stations within 10 miles of me that all sell non ethanol fuel. People just don't want to pay extra per gallon for it, but have no issue paying someone to fix the problems caused by using it!
People are stupid and lazy idiots. Look at the comments... Claim they can't find it, or that there is magical additives you can buy to solve the problem. Asinine...
It took me some time to figure out that I should not be using fuel with Ethanol in it, but I finally figured it out on my own and began using fuel with no ethanol in it for all my lawn equipment, and got better results. For my saws, and weed trimmers, I buy the pre-mixed fuel from places like Wal-Mart and use that in those equipment, and on the lawn mowers I put only the high octane fuel in them. So far the equipment is working fine, and one neighbor who now works on my equipment said that he only use the high octane fuel in his equipment also.
Excellent advice - I use Stihl Motomix for everything !
Thank you for another nice video. I see that ice and snow is finally gone. Have a nice weekend and happy Easter holidays.
That's a nice demo, Dony. My limited review of ethanol in fuel turned up three issues, degradation of rubber seals over time, dissolved water, and 'varnish' precipitates. The dissolved water issue is tricky because although ethanol will allow more moisture to contaminate the fuel at the air fuel interface, it also increases the capacity of such water molecules to be dissolved in the fuel rather than separating out at the bottom of the tank. Of course trace quantities of water dissolved in the fuel will most often harmlessly pass through the exhaust. But, separated water will make the motor choke and stall, and it might promote rust. Some people don't seem to realize that common gas line antifreeze is methanol or isopropyl alcohol, both alcohols. So, it doesn't make any sense to avoid alcohol in fuel and then add alcohol in the form of gas line antifreeze. To me, with ethanol already in fuel there isn't much point in gas line antifreeze, and the methanol in it can also cause corrosion of aluminum surfaces. Many here may be surprised to learn that alcohols are also premixed with the detergents of most fuel stabilizers. So, you are adding alcohol to your fuel if you use fuel stabilizer. One way to avoid some storage problems is to keep the tank completely full, reducing the amount of air in contact with the gas. That reduces the amount of water that will enter the gas from air inside the tank, and it will also reduce evaporation of the volatile elements in the gasoline (the most common cause of 'stale' gas). Gasoline lasts a long time if properly stored in an air tight container. By keeping the tank completely full I think there is less chance of rust from water condensing on the inner wall of the tank from cooling air over the winter. I've been storing my motorcycle with carefully measured quantities of fresh fuel stabilizer and tank full, but I also drain the carburetor to try and reduce evaporative varnish inside the carb....
Hi Dave I have experienced problems with fuel as well and most of the time I use premium to avoid it but for my generators I do use regular fuel and have noticed the red fuel stabilizer sold from can/tire or the brand name stabil does separate and is found in red swirls sitting on the bottom of the fuel tanks. For the past 3 seasons I have switched to using seafoam at one oz per gallon and so far the results are good with the tanks looking cleaner every season I use it . I did notice before small water pockets sitting on the bottom of the tank as Donny showed but it just ran thru the engine anyway but now I cant find anything but a clean metal tank, My big genset is 10 years old and the fuel bowl is cleaner as well. Works for me and a whole lot cheaper than that red stabilizer that did not work. By the way Donny did mentioned a stabilizer for ethanol fuels but I have never seen it yet on the store shelves, now this might be good as well.
Great tip. Number 91 Octane gas at Shell, is ethanol free gas, good to know. Thanks for the tip.
Great video Donnie. We have shared your video, with our followers, as often they have this problem in Portable Generators too. Thanks!
ok thanks
Great video. I have been using She'll 91 for quite a few years. Have had no issues. Works great. This year I am trying out TRUFUEL
Spent hours looking for the part number. Random video on your channel and I you told us 590781 for the ignition module for V twin motor.... Thank you.
My issue was Craftsman lawn tractor start fine hen cold but if hot won't start. IE after mowing lawn. Let it sit an hour it would start. Real issue when you have to mow three lawns that day...
The ethanol attracts moisture from the air, that gets ' attached'to it and since the water is heavier than gas , it "un-blends"the gas/ethanol mix , which would be o.k. by itself. BUT,most of the ethanol drops down WITH THE WATER! This affects the octane amount in the remaining gas, and some or most engines won't run on it ..,especially two strokes.Never try to pour off the gas and save it ,as we individuals could in the 'pre ethanol' days. Even looking at a sample in a CLEAR container will not have the clear defining line between the gas-and-water like 'old school' gas would. Instead,it will be cloudy and gradual.This is called Phase Separation.I worked for an oil co. and many people had issues and assumed we had delivered bad gas.The problem was usually theirs,because we bought gas Daily,and it didn't have time to sit and go bad.We picked it up at the terminal and took it straight to whoever called for it.There are many choices of water finding pastes so read packaging well before buying any.Hope this helped.
thank you so much for this video. I needed this big time. My lawnmower is acting up just as you say..i can't wait to try this fix today. thank you again.
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I have one of those 5 gallon water containers, I put all my old gas from machines that I work on in it. I then let it set for a couple days. The water and bad stuff will settle in the bottom. I then pump the good gasoline off the top. Being careful not get to low in the bad stuff. A good tip is to add a couple drops of food coloring to it. You can then see a definite line of good gas and the water.
You're insane
Here in Belgium most use 98 octane fuel without ethanol. There is also 95 at a lesser price but not advised for higher compression engines. Nice vid
Great vid Dony, I work in a small engine shop in Australia, and Ethanol based fuels are a big issue here too.
In Australia I have been using e10 in my mower and whipper snipper for years. No conversions on these machines. They still run without any problems.
As always... great video Don!
You must be enjoying the warmer weather. You guys got a ton of snow this year!
it is warming up very very slowly!
I was about to take my carburetor apart until I viewed your video. I washed out my gas tank, cleaned the fuel line, and everything you showed. I also poured Sea Foam down the carburetor and let it set for a while. The gas I took out of the tank did have water in it. Thanks! You saved my Sears chipper. It now works great.
nice vid, you have a gift for instructing. thanks
Excellent video as always!
Have identical mower... for the last 10 years I've been waiting to replace it, but it just keeps going and going and going and ..... I do drain it and store it inside for winter. Bought it back in the mid 90's I think.
Great video Dony ! I started using VP SEF 50:1 in my 2 cycle engines it's a bit expensive but in the long run it saves you money on repairs and is a far Superior fuel it's pre-mixed with motul synthetic oil , 94 octane and NO damn ethanol !
I live in the mid hudson valley Ny and all of our gas has that crap in it all year around. I learned the hard way I have a back up generator that powers my house when we lose power. It does at least a few times a year. I am totally disabled and with out power I can only run my stuff on battery for so long. My gen set carb rusted out . Our local NAPA sells so many kits to rebuild carbs messed up by ethanal . The gaskets can go bad in just 1 season. Buy the good stuff to remove the ethanal.
Holy smokes! Great channel dony. I cant believe I didnt find you before and your only a 100km or so from me.
where u from?
donyboy73 North Bay
good video don i try to tell people that ethanol is a big problem with small engines but some disagree...
Donny boy WD-40 removes.& Displaces water.&'moisture out of fuel tanks to. Even in your vehicles to that are not flex fuel rated with labels.& Emblems indicating such information. Will help fix & resolve your poor fuel issues.& Problems quicker.& Faster. Not always cheaper if not caught ahead of time though. One gallon jug of WD-40 last A quite A bit of time.
Good tip thanks
Great video probably why my lawnboy is running bad
In the US, Shell V-Power 91 and 93 has a maximum of 5% ethanol and is the best volume seller unless you can find non-ethanol fuel from a marina or mom & pop station.
Cheers Donny as always
thanks
I have seen lots of problems with ethanol in boat fuel systems in my 6 years of being a marine tech.
Ethanol doesn't affect car engines like it does small engines. Ethanol for small engines is often a slow death that negatively affects fuel lines, gaskets, and carbs. You can go online and check which gas stations locally sell non ethanol based fuels, or ask the cashier at the station. Usually have to bump up to 91 octane to get the non ethanol gas at the stations that offer it.
Thanks danyboy. Great video. I wonder if sell here in Chicago has no ethanol. I will deff. Do some research. Thanks again
im going to try this on my cement mixer lawn mower and roto tillier I have issues with everyone thanks
You can also have problems with straight gasoline. I just recently bought a Honda lawnmower from a guy who had the gasoline in the tank so long that it went bad. When I poured it out it smelled funny. But thanks to your video I will use the same technique that you are using to use the poured out gasoline as a cleaning solution. So gasoline will go bad if left unused for long periods of time and so will gasoline with 10% ethanol. But the gasoline with 10% ethanol is fully useable when you shake it up to remix itself with gasoline while gasoline gone bad cannot go back into the tank for use in small engines or our auto vehicles. Ethanol is not bad. However the perception of ethanol is severely misunderstood. I have been using 10% ethanol & gasoline for Jesus over a decade in my yard equipment and never had problems with the ethanol fuel mixture. But I have bought yard equipment with gasoline gone bad and I'll bet you more than half of America has experienced bad gasoline in their small engine equipment regularly.
I avoid small engine fuel related problems with my snowblower by buying gas at the end of December and only keeping it in a sealed storage container until the beginning of April. I then drain the snowblower gas tank and any remaining gas in storage into my car's gas tank and use it up so no gas is in storage over the summer to go bad or start a fire.
did you ever run into cases where that new fuel caused the float valve rubber seat to swell up and not let fuel enter the bowl properly, I have seen that a few times, as with a lot of new stuff, it causes more problems than it cures.
i am currently working on a generator that has a metal tank that rusted had to replace tank now have stuck rings. never use a metal tank with ethanol especially on a boat. had that trouble. not fun day of fishing when you fix it on the water or get towed in with bad weather
Good job!!!
The only time I will e10 fuel is in modern fuel injected cars that gets daily driven.
I'm not sure about small engines , but after using regular unleaded 87oct in my car for a little over a year, I recently ran a few tanks with " Heet iso with injecter(red bottle) cleaner" in my tank and now it runs a little smoother but where the huge difference came is in my gas gauge in the dash. Before it used to get horrible gas milage and would drop really fast and never read correctly and this is a 2005 model year. Now the gas gauge reads smooth and correct and doesn't bounce. Don't know if anything had to do with anything but if it removed water it helped.
+AdversaryOmega . um mm heet IS ethanol
I work for a Briggs generator dealer. And you are totally on point. They sent us a bulletin sayin "don't store fuel more than a month without stabilizer". And a double dose won't hurt it either
what brand stabilizer did they recommend ? did they recommend just plain old stabilizer or one that is for ethanol fuel?
Well,that was a few years ago. When normal stabilizer was avalable. Now sta-bil makes an ethanol formula and star-tron makes a stabilizer too. I used the star-tron over this winter and it seemed to work great. I barely bumped the key on my mower this year and it fired right off
Excellent video. Great information. Nice hat, AMSOIL...been with them for over 8 years...excellent products..tope of the line!
my hat is wore out, looking for another one, lol
Dony, I love your videos, they are so informative. One thing I have not been able to find on your channel is any videos on mixed gasoline for 2-stroke engines. Do you use one mix for all 2-strokes?
For instance I have a chainsaw and a weedeater that both want different mixes and i am working on restoring a mini tiller that also wants a different mix but is more complicated. Can you help me out?
Here is what i have and what they want:
Stihl MS 290 Farm Boss - Chainsaw - 50:1
McCulloch MAC 2818 - String Trimmer - 40:1
Mantis SV-2AE - Mini Tiller - This is powered by a KIORITS/ECHO engine The manual says: "The Approved fuel to oil ratio is 32 parts regular gasoline to 1 part of Echo approved oil, (32:1), 02 20 parts regular gasoline to 1 part oil when using another reputable 2-cycle air cooled engine oil, (20:1)."
I would love to be able to just keep one mix on hand instead of 3. I found a small place nearby that sells gas without ethanol last year and now that is all i use in my small engines, the price is very close to regular gasoline.
I use 45:1 for everything
Thanks, should 45:1 be safe even for the Mantis?
I noticed you don't have any videos for Mantis tillers. Do you not have these mini tillers in Canada?
Nice video Donny!!
thanks man
Cool video
Canadian Tire 91 octane now has 10% ethanol. I don't think you can buy ethanol free gas in Ontario any more.
You are correct, all fuel in Canada now has 10% Ethanol
Hi Donboy73 I have a lt133 John Deere riding mower and it takes a spell for it to stop, I found out the brakes could be adjusted, I was wondering if you had any videos adjusting brakes or how to adjust them thanks
Thank you.
Thanks
dony..what ya think bout trufuel..I use the 40:1 in my troybilt weedeater..
I've seen gas with ethanol completely eat the gasket in the fuel shut off valve of a generator. It blocked the valve so that no fuel could get through.
Yes, it's horrible for small engines. Too many fools think there is some good solution other than just buying non-ethanol gasoline. I've fixed hundreds of small engines that were wrecked with Ethanol blended fuel.
JUST STOP USING IT... PROBLEM SOLVED. But some people never listen
I admire you. You are a great engineer.
Do you have a remedy for the same situation in a two cycle engine. Have a Stihl FS 56 RC that is fouling out after short period of use. I've recently bought ethanol free gas and added fuel stabilizer. It's under warranty and they will fix it free if needed, but I need it regularly and can't wait for days. Anything else you can recommend and do you think there may be permanent damage? It seems to be running better now with new gas + treatment. Any info would be helpful. Thanks. Love your channel...learning a lot from your vids.
Good video
have a good weekend
So just to make sure I understand what you are saying correctly.
Is the ethanol in the gasoline breaking down to form water?
That is crazy, I wouldn't have thought that, I always made the assumption that rainwater or condensation is where the water in the tank came from.
Thanks for the vid, I will run the 91 octane Ethanol free gas from now on!
yes it will form water droplets
Water droplets in the fuel is definitely bad news!!!
I will be using the CTC or Shell 91 octane fuel from now on, thanks for enlightening us about this serious problem!
ChargerMiles007 no prob, thanks for watching
Thanks, and have a good one!
its called " Phase Separation ". after 30 days the ethanol will separated from the gasoline and you cannot shake it back up to re-combine it. Ethanol attracts moisture from the AIR. buy some fresh gas and pour some into a clear glass container. let it sit overnight
and you will see water droplets at the bottom.
Is best to run 91 octane gas to in small engines like riding mowers and push mowers, and small engines or will it wreck them thanks in advance
In USA and Canada, you can go to pure-gas.org for help locating non-ethanol fuel. I found a station near me with premium fuel that was ethanol free, and I filled up my motorcycle, scooter, and mower tanks. Yesterday I started my scooter after putting it on the charger, and it started the instant I touched the starter (Honda CH150 Elite.) I also put a little Seafoam stabilizer in the tanks, can't hurt.
Hooray, the one person who's not an idiot in these comments...
On used power wash like 1200psi what I sell for pretty run good last fall
Hello, I've got a Craftsman leaf blower that lost its muffler, I found that the two screws holding it to the head have become stripped for some reason. They're not super loose, but enough so that vibration shakes them back out at some point. I tried some loc-tite (high temp) worked for an hour or so, same issue. Any thoughts? Thanks so much and your vids have always helped me out in the past!
You can try putting a narrow plate across the bolt holes and bend up or down the outside edge toward each bolt and that will hold it in place with all that shaking. 3/4" wide maybe and the length of the span from bolt to bolt plus a 1/2" on each side. The briggs mufflers usually come with something
Like that installed from the factory
Does it have big PIPE THREADS in the center,so you can screw in an aftermarket one ? If not,you can tap pipe threads in the big hole,BUT DONT LET THE TAP HIT AND BEND THE VALVE.
Preferably,buy new bolts,mix JB weld as per package directions an use a toothpick to apply to the bolt hole.
Poke it to the bottom.
It doesn't have to be full,but generous.
Without installing the muffler, thread in the new bolts and wipe off excess JB weld.
Allow to cure overnight.
Remove the bolts and reinstall the the muffler.
Start and run for about a minute about 45 seconds and gently apply a bit more torque to the bolts and you should be set
Great video Dony! Is placing the flat side of the float bowl facing the needle valve a general rule with all small engine carbs? I have a Honda HRR216 that I need to do to. Thanks!
Its so the float can open to its fullest ....
its hard to find in the states,,
No it's not, go to pure gas dot org
I call the high octane gas ,the high priced gas
One easy way to remove the ethanol from fresh gasoline.... If you have 10 litres of gasoline, add 1 litre of water, shake and let sit for 15 minutes, then drain the water from the bottom.... if you had 10% ethenol in the fuel at the beginning, you should end up draining about 2 litres of a mixture of water and ethanol, and what is left is pure ethanol free gasoline.
thanks dontboy i have similar intrests to u but im only 13 and keep u p the good wrk
You did not mention how ethanol hardens the rubber components (pipes, seals valves). This hardening is a particular problem with two stroke carburetors. You could have explained why the water that the ethanol attracts causes corrosion to the zinc alloy in carburetors which then fouls jets. In the UK it is now impossible to get non-ethanol fuel. It is either 5 or 10 %. What i recommemd is run garden machinery on 5% then at the end of the sesson i drain the machinery and change oil. Dump any remaining fuel in to my car's gas tank (modern vehicles are designed to cope with up to 50% ethanol). I then run about half a pint of synthetic fuel through the machinery and leave it so it can leach out any ethanol in the rubber. BTW synthetic fuel costs around £20 a gallon so itit only gets used for winterising.
Ethanol in fuel has sold more rechargeable tools than advertising has 😊
To bad the Shell stations here in the U.S do have ethanol in there gas.
Hey that's the same lawnmower I have 'and that ethanol really messed it up it gave a permanent sputter!
hi don , i am here in the uk , i love your videos you do , have you got any on stihl 044 chainsaw full rebuilds ,
keep up the good work ,
not yet
donyboy73
ok , many thanks , will see how i do with the one i have ,
how do you know if your gas station's fuel has no ethanol in it
you have to go in and ask. here in MO all reg. gas has 10% ethanol and pump is labeled as such. in Ohio there is no regulation that says they have to label the pump. Be safe and go in and ask if you want non-ethanol fuel.
hi dony could u tell me where my oil plug is on my briggs and stratton Quantum XM 4HP
Donyboy73 no to star tron?
I think you can still buy gas at airports. We did years ago for our cars.
My lawnmower dose two strokes the it cuts outs
I didn't use my 2 year old toro 7.25 "guaranteed to start" mower all of last year, and I tried to start it this year, it was filled with old gas, I tried to start it and of course that didn't work, but now that I replaced the gas with new gas, it still won't start, I got it to burp twice and that's it. Did the ethanol ruin the engine? Any advise?
I just went through the same thing with a Toro that was sitting a year with stale gas. I removed and washed the tank. Let it dry , it still did not work. I removed the float bowl and squirted carb cleaner into the small holes and fuel intake line. It fixed it.
if the water and ethanol sink, why not get the fuel off the top layer after it all settles out ?
Because if phase separation occurs the gas that is left is something like 83 octane because the ethanol is an octane booster used with "base gas" to bring the blend up to regular, mid-grade or premium.
good stuff...ty
Ok, I'm now reviving a 10 year old video but, I'd like to say, I'm curious as to why for non ethanol (pure gasoline), and I've even heard of the top tier additives being the same, as far as availability only being limited to mid grade or higher for the additional top tier additives, and as for ethanol free, it only, still to this day is available for premium, which, even regular premium fuel already cuts engine knocking. I love pure gas, have only been able to get it a few times due to its much higher cost, and, I don't need a premium fuel, my owner manual states to run regular 87 unleaded as recommended, but it is a flex fuel vehicle also. I'm just curious as to why non oxygenated, non ethanol, whatever you want to call it is only available as premium? Anyone know? Thank you all in advance.
With the ethonal based gas drained what's if you run it through one of those funals that filter out water??
not sure
Great tip but I'd like to know, what do you use to get the gas odor off of your hands? Stay sharp Friend.
I use an orange hand cleaner
Clean motor oil works great for getting the gas smell out of skin (or hair if you took a bath in it). Of course motor oil is it's own mess to clean up, but it really works.
Another source of fuel is your local marina as the boats cannot run the ethanol fuel because of the water saturation. Ethanol is the worst bane of small engines.
If I add a fuel shut off valve and run the engine dry is tha a good option? Thank you
It's better than nothing, but just use the right fuel to begin with.
What type of gas does not have Ethanol
Is 91 octane gass good for my mower
yes it is
Hey Dony, I wanna pick your brain a little. I work at a motorcycle shop in Maryland. We just had a guy bring in 2 old BSA motorcycles(early 60s). So obviously the hardware on these bikes is not standard(based off inch) but its also not metric(unless they use a lot of half sizes) None of my tools fit! Haha. someone told me they may be "Wentworth" but I havnt been able to find info on that. Let me know what yall think.
Alex
Hi Alex, I think what you are looking for is en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Standard_Whitworth
I think tim has the answer for you
As already noted search for Whitworth Wrench size and the Wikipedia link has good information. For a chart comparing wrench jaw sizes try the bottom of the page at www.baconsdozen.co.uk/tools/whitworth.htm
Another option is the use a mix of /32 SAE and some Metrics sockets / wrenches.
Nice table in here:
www.landroverclub.net/Club/HTML/Whitworth_BSF_BA.htm
Donyboy,
You can reuse the fuel if you remove the water. Since the water will settle to the bottom place the fuel in a clear bottle, like an old Gatorade container and let it sit until all water is at the bottom. Then decant the gas out of the bottle into another container leaving the water behind. To increase the burn ability you can mix the fuel with new fuel. I have had success using this method. Also this is the most environmentally friendly way to dispose of old fuel.
ethanol attracts moisture from the air naturally all day every day 24/7 365.
the Ethanol separates from the fuel in 30 days and you cannot shake it back
up together. that's why you use it or loose it. its called phase separation when the ethanol separates from the fuel
And remember to return the turkey baster to your mothers kitchen drawer!
Don't you mean mother-in-law? Hahaha
does 93 fuel have octane?
Ral Silva yes, it's 93 octane
What kind of gas should you use in small engines or don't it matter
Did you watch the video? Non-ethanol gas.
my 612 engine will not run on 100 percent gas why ive tried three times an each time it runs about ten mintes an shuts off I drain the tank an put gas with enthol in it an it starts an runs fine can any one tell me why
Are you sure thats not turkey grease in the fuel ?
I'm in the US and have a 2016 Toro 826 OXE HD snow blower and was wondering if anyone has run 100LL AVgas in a newer Toro snowblower that has the Toro Premium engine made by Loncin? From what I've read, most people that use the 100LL aviation fuel in small carburetor engines report no problems. However, I have heard a few rumblings about this fuel in Honda small engines and since the Loncin engine is supposedly a clone of the Honda small engine, I thought I would ask if anyone has any experience. -- Dony, just another great informative video. Thanks as always for sharing your knowledge.
my God whod have thought different gases arent good here or there and these are good only here and there what a pain in the ass.. i have a feeling this is whats going on with the tecmseh lawnmower i had and probably wiht my omothers . neither will start after theyve sat for even a few hrs but once i spray carb cleaner into the filter they start right up and run no prolem... but once you need to use it agian next week its the same problem all over again. what a fuck they put into small engine repairs ..what if all gas all of a sudden starts coming wiht ethanol?
Dony or anyone else that could help... I have a yard machine lawn tractor, 15 hp Briggs and Straton engine, I was getting it dug out of my shed today after a long winter. It started very well for sitting for so long but I had a little trouble getting it out. I ran out of gas so I put some more in and tried starting it again and it gave a big backfire but then it started but it started blowing smoke. It always blew a little smoke at first but then cleared up but now it's really blowing constantly. It still runs and I got it outside and it still runs not too bad but holy cow it's blowin smoke. Any ideas of what it might be, did it blow the rings or something else. I would appreciate any help from anyone,, Thanks
Is it an OHV (overhead valve) Briggs engine. If so watch Donys vid of the VERY smokey riding mower, it had a blown head gasket.
My personal opinion is that you would not have blown the rings from a backfire.
I hope Donyboy73 can help you out, as I am curious what the problem is :)
ChargerMiles007 Ok I will look for the vid and I have had the head gasket suggestion from someone else as well. Thanks for the help and reply...
ChargerMiles007 So I found the smoking tractor vid and that's definitely what mine is doing so I guess I'll be trying to fix it myself with a little help from all the videos I've watched. Dony is a very good teacher,,,,
Yes, Dony sure knows his stuff about small engines.
So you have a serious smoker on your hands, probably is a blown head gasket.
ChargerMiles007 Yep that seems to be the conclusion alright. I got a new one so now I will try to get it fixed. Thanks to all the videos at least I have a clue how to now.. Stay tuned !!.
does anybody know what happen to ereplacements last time asking on this channel does canada sell non ethanol gas can't find here in waterbury ct have relatives in montreal will be visiting around april will bring truck with fuel tank in bed gonna buy all i can
All Shell Stations from coast to coast in Canada sell V-power 91 w/no ethanol. Including the Montreal area.
How long do you hold onto the bad gas for cleaning parts?
+Larry Lafferty sometimes up to a year
+donyboy73 okay thanks.
I have found that pouring the fuel in a clear glass jar and then looking at it often you can see the water on the bottom, and fuel on the top. If you then pour as much of the fuel into another container (another clear glass jar is best) as you can without pouring any of the water you can go ahead and re-use the majority of the fuel.
ethanol attracts moisture from the air. if you just use the fuel in the glass jar and put it into the item you are using and run it right away I guess that would work.
but remember ethanol attracts moisture from the air ALL the time