Making your own ETHANOL FREE Gasoline!!! it's easier than you think!!
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- Today I was getting ready to cut grass and I noticed I didn't have any Gas for the lawnmower. I thought it would make for a good video on how to make ETHANOL FREE Gasoline.
Many people debate the effects of ethanol in gas, but that isn't what this video is about! I will show you how to remove it with just Water, a siphon hose and a clear glass jar! check it out...
#e85 #ethanol #gasoline
hope you enjoy this quick video! - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I used to work as a lab worker in an organic extraction laboratory. Your gasoline, being cloudy is contaminated with emulsified water and needs to be "dehydrated" with anhydrous sodium sulfate (it grabs a lot of water from solvents). And, likewise the top layer in your one gallon plastic jug is the gasoline with emulsified water. Look at the lower water layer in the one gallon plastic jug and you can tell about 1/2" to 3/4" of water is emulsified in the gasoline. If you let the gasoline/water mixture sit overnight you'll probably notice the gasoline is clear again. Myself, I wouldn't use the cloudy gasoline in any engine because it has a ton of emulsified water along with ethanol in it! If the gasoline isn't perfectly clear then it's contaminated with water!
@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove I watched another TH-cam video where the presenter puts 100ml of gasoline with 10% ethanol in a 100ml graduated cylinder and just pours in an additional 20ml of water. No shaking. Just pours it in and the water goes straight to the bottom of the graduated cylinder. The gasoline stays perfectly clear. Then he waits 15 minutes and shows there's 30ml of an aqueous/ethanol layer at the bottom. The gasoline was pretty much then ethanol free and clear as a bell. This demonstrates that you don't have to shake the gasoline and water at all. Just add twice the percentage of water and the ethanol will selectively dissolve into the water leaving the gasoline ready to use. Couldn't be much easier!
@@Edmund_Mallory_Hardgrove Since gasoline is a mixture of hexane, benzene, toluene, xylene, octane plus stabilizers, etc. I'm not sure how much the emulsified water would separate, but I'm guessing most would after 24 hours and the gasoline should clear up. I don't know if anhydrous sodium sulfate would be 100% necessary or not. In the lab, we only used pure solvents in extraction procedures. Some extractions needed the sodium sulfate and some didn't. The High Pressure Liquid Chromatography (HPLC) columns sometimes needed a blend of two or three solvents, but I didn't operate those machines so I'm not as knowledgeable with how blended solvents react to emulsified water.
@@6gatornation I've tried gumount octane booster in a Sta-Bil container with the built in measuring device, but doing this in your garage is far from an exact science. I tried the water ethanol separation method last year, and I found it to be more trouble than it's worth, personally. I let it sit for a few days to separate fully, but the leftover "ethanol" smokes and smells strongly like petroleum, uncharacteristic of ethanol. My small engines ran on the resulting separated gasoline, but they didn't seem to run as well. If I ever have time to invest in side endeavors, I might try to obtain aviation gasoline from an airport. If there are any pilots reading this, I'm curious if it's generally available to anyone in the public who drives up.
@@6gatornation If you pull the etoh out, it will lower the octane equiv by about 2pts (r+m/2). 10% etoh 93 octane fuel probably started life as 91 octane (r+m/2). So you'd windup with about 91 but it may not be a healthy "brew" in the way of acidic compounds. There are a LOT of other chemicals in gas to consider. 95 octane equiv, about the lowest "Race Gas" you can buy alcohol free, costs $20/ gal, so you could add it to your "brew" but, you might look into why they don't want you to use e-10 and take measures to negate the problems. Hope this helps. ben/ michigan
@@Dwigt_Rortugal Jim, I bought it all the time when I was younger. I was looking for 100 or more Leaded and I bought it a lot. They would not let me put it right into my gas tank because it didn't have road tax on it. But I did it anyway at a slew of little grass airports. The others made me put it into a gas can and then I could "drink it if I wanted to" was their words. ben/ michigan
I’ve been purifying my gas for 2 years now I use a 5 gallon plastic carboy from Amazon and it has a petcock on the bottom . Some recommendations use distilled water mixed with blue or red Food dye the dye is water soluble and when the mixture separates it gives a clear delineation of the water/ ethanol mixture verses the purified gas. Ethanol burns slower and is part of the octane rating of the gasoline so if you start with a 93 octane rated fuel you’ll end up close to 87 octane. Note octane is actually isooctane which inhibits the rate of combustion and thereby decreases engine nock. Finally it takes a minimum of 12 hours for complete separation of the gas from the ethanol /water mixture . I always draw off the pure gasoline 24 hours after mixing.
You are aware there are stores that sell conventional gas with no ethanol?
@@silverhorder1969 Up north in the corn belt, where I live, there aint one gas station within 75 miles. And I'm not traveling that far for mow gas. I wish there was so I didn't have to this.
@@jimaslan4837 look for a COOP that sells gas. They quite often sell straight gas. Surely there is a COOP somewhere?
@@silverhorder1969 If the ethanol free pump is tied to one or more of the ethanol containing products, a good bit of your first gallon of ethanol free gas will come from what ever is in the hose from what ever was last pumped and will likely have ethanol in it. In that case it's a good idea to pump a few gallons into your car before filling your mower can.
@@gnuorder I agree. I always gas up my truck first. I haul gasoline and here’s a little more advice, the arm at ALL of the tank farms I’m carded at, that you load 0087 at, you also load 87E10 at. It’s a 4” line and for the first 50 or so gallons we’re getting 87E10. The state doesn’t require it to be 100% ethanol free. I’ve heard it has to be below 4%.
Andy now to continue on..Take your ethanol/water mix and for that quantity add about 2 maybe 3 cups of salt and a small amount of food coloring and stir to dissolve it in the mix..then let it sit and the ethanol and the water will separate...then draw it off just the same. This method is called salting out.
Thanks that's good , if I do it do you know if I could use the ethanol in a spirit burner for cooking when I go camping ? Cheers.
@@royblackburn1163Yes.
I would probably have just siphoned the pure gasoline off the top down to maybe within an inch of the separation line and then kept the remainder for mixing into the next batch.
I like that. Your less likely to get water in your gas.
I was thinking about that but siphoning is like a straw so unless you go from the bottom it is likely to draw the water back up through the fuel and mix it again. I think I would try a food dye in the water but it would be a experiment because the dye might strip off into the gasoline.
I thought the same thing
Anybody try building a separation tank with a bottom drain to remove the water from the bottom? After removing the water I figure some fuel stabilizer in the remaining fuel will help. I also have a water fuel separation funnel that perhaps I'll run the remaining fuel through first before adding the stabilizer. I just haven't figured out exactly how to build a good fuel separation tank with a bottom drain.
The separation funnel can be used on gasoline and diesel to remove dirty fuel too, with I believe a teflon coated mesh filter. Some people just mix water in gas then just run through the filter. Filter is 35 dollars for a small filter, but it's best to get the larger filter to handle 5 gallons of fuel at a time. I bought both. The product is called Mr Funnel available at many local stores. Mr Funnel doesn't work with stabilized fuel.
Make a separation Funnel like we use in Chemistry class. It's a large funnel with a valve on the bottom and you drain off the water with ethanol (it forms an azeotrope). I wonder if any one has tried to distill the ethanol from the mixture or does the gas odor and other water soluble hydrocarbons and additives contaminate the water. Either way, this is a DANGEROUS procedure. I would only do it outside and not in my shop.
My bud used to do this, had a big canister with a petcock on the bottom to drain the water out.. used to leave the water/alcohol mix in a gas can in the barn...... gas can would mysteriously get emptied every now and then and one of the local kids would be selling a dirt bike or go kart a few days later..... he would buy them and flip them.
ROFLMFAO!!! That's hilarious!!
Stonks
Glycol (antifreeze) works better than water on separating and with 87 octane you drop to 84 and with 93 it will drop to 91-90 ish on octane. I work for one of the big oil company’s and we test loads that head to the stations for ethanol content this way. It can help a fella make some 90 rec when you are in a pinch.
I've never tried Antifreeze... That is pretty neat good info
Thanks for watching
Andy
So why is the "non-ethanol" gas more expensive than the gas that has been mixed on the truck with ethanol? I have never been able to figure that out!? The ethanol costs more than gasoline, so why would the fuel with the more expensive alcohol be less expensive? Ran my old Mustang with a hot air Paxton on E85, but mostly mixed for E60 as that was 100 octane instead of 105... Thanks!
That's why ya go fill up at a sleepy little airport with 100 low lead and none of that ethanol trash in it.
@@robertelmo7736 taxes my friend… it’s all about the taxes… Ethanol is a renewable energy and you get the tax credit towards the 87 or 93 and when you take the ethanol out… you take the tax cut out
Putin is continuing Crimea war Ukraine gave up nukes Trump is going to the big house so my gas is drained. No end in sight. Only worse to come.
I would like to share with you my method for getting ethanol free gas. I go to the corner gas station and buy ethanol free 93 octane gas. WHY, do people, as evidenced by all the TH-cam videos, go to all this dangerous screwing around? 87 octane in the vehicles and 93 octane in the small engines. I’m 75 and life has taught me at least one thing. Keep it simple; if a choice between just buying ethanol free gas or setting up the lab and going through a big rigmarole, I’ll buy the gas and be done with it. You were correct in warning, “Don’t do this in your house.” For those home chemists that didn’t get the message, I can’t wait to see who mixes up a batch in their basement and blows themselves to kingdom come.
Be careful out there folks!🔥=🚒
In many parts of the country, ethanol-free gasoline is not available.
@@MCOult Okay, I’ll revise what I said. Where, you can get ethanol free gas, I would suggest using it. But I would be VERY careful mixing up a home batch. A sure recipe for disaster.
@@lorinkramer5805 Not available in Ontario.
Actually discovered this technique by accident, my riding lawn wouldn’t run, so ended up emptying the gas into a old glass wine bottle, then had to stop for the evening... came back to it the next evening and noticed the amount of separation, out of curiosity I decided to add the separation of gas back into the lawn mower and I’ll be damned if it didn’t crank up ! 😮
You mean to say that if I simply put some gasoline (that I bought from the pump) in a clear glass container and let it sit for ~24 hrs, I will see the separation clear enough to tell which is which?
@@JasbirSingh-zj1fgmaybe not by JUST letting gas sit in a clear container for 24 hours. The point of adding the water is to give something heavier that the gas for the ethanol to bind to for the separation.
What likely happened with the riding mower here is it sat all winter and it absorbed moisture from the atmosphere, and trying to use it in the spring it was drawing the water ethanol mix from the bottom and not the gas
Add some Toluene to the fuel and it will bump the octane rating right back up.
Chemical Engineer here.
Yup, this'll work.
Like the Comments say... some things you can do to help recovery.
But, the science works.
The gasoline should be clear and have a straw color. Yours appears to have entrained water in it making it appear cloudy. As an old aviation mechanic that did fuel samples every morning on our Coast Guard aircraft, I wouldn't use that gasoline in my engines. I'm a bit skeptical on your theory of removing ALL of the water from the gas...the entrained water still exists. Still a cool video.
And Racor makes a water separation funnel. You could run the "pure" gasoline through it as a 2nd step just to make sure you have all the water our. Racor water separation filters are common items for boating.
"Mr Funnel" - same thing.
There's something new to me and I've been around a good bit! Thanks Andy. Luckily I got an ethanol -free station in the nearest town but this is very interesting and for me a useful thing to know. Three cheers!
Add a tap to the bottom of the vessel (Separator)with a valve that way you can drain out the water/alcohol mix without all this siphon mess. As a side note add some acetone to reduce the chance of engine knock.
When we had purple gas on the farm in the 70's and 80's, Dad got some clear jerrycans, filled them and left them out in the sun for a couple days. The purple dye would fade and we had red gas for the car.
That's pretty neat!
Thanks for watching
Andy
You can do the same thing with off-road diesel
@@bradhaliburton5974 The dye added to diesel is more than just a colourent. Theirs also a trace chemical that dose not go away and the tests they do to see if you are running dyed picks that up.
@@toejah I've seen bentonite clay cat litter used to filter dyed #2 fuel oil.
@@2000freefueland how good does that work
Never had a problem with E-10 87 pump gas in my lawn mowers. I had a 20 yr. old Craftsmen lawn tractor that I used pump E-10 87 gas in for it's 20 yrs. Took the carb off to take a look
and it was shiny clean aluminum. Just don't store it with the carb full of gas.
Yeah me neither on the bigger mower engines, but have had some issues out of the small blocks (2 stroke weed eaters) and stuff.
Where do you live? Because its the additives that cause the problems. The additives are different region to region and they change with the seasons too. All of my E100 carbs are spotless inside, the E10 has some varnish, but anything with no ethanol is always loaded with varnish and rust.
You are right depending on location and season! When you run E100 talk about being clean! Especially the lack of carbon when you tear down the engine! I would change the oil more frequently..
Andy
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage it takes some different thinking running ethanol. Sure you can run it like you do with gasoline, as cold as possible and lean, but that ends up using more fuel and making less power.
On my E85/E100 engines I run them at least 195, preferably at 210, and on the street I like to see 220 coolant temps. The reason I do that is simple, I still get the big temp drop under the carb/throttle body, but the fuel vaporizes better in the runners as its doing that cooling. Then the oil gets hot enough to boil condensation out, and any fuel that might have seeped past the rings.
Run ethanol and methanol engines with a 160 temp like you do on gasoline, and you will make less power, use more fuel, and make a milkshake in the oil pan.
Most people go lean trying to make power on vodka, but E85 makes best power around 7.5:1 AFR. Its funny when you try to explain that to someone who is good at tuning gasoline and has never tried alcohol fuels. 7.5:1 and 210F temps, they freak out, especially with 13:1 to 16:1 compression.
On E85 13:1 with iron heads, 8:1 AFR, and a 220F operating temp is a very happy street engine. The short block on my stand will be around 10.7:1 with the 87cc aluminum heads I am putting on it, that would work with 92 pump gas, but it should be lots of fun with 10 to 20 psi thrown down its throat on vodka.
More fun than any chassis I currently have can handle. I might need a really heavy truck to throw it in.. Not. I think the Opel GT and around 2200lbs would be perfect for it.
I don't use ethanol gas on cars that I store over the winter. It does carry water and can rust the steel gas tanks of classic cars.
I've made Coleman fuel from gasoline using heat to evaporate the lightest elements of the gasoline from the additives. Gas evaporates at a fairly low temperature. I used a cup warmer to do it to avoid flame and auto-combustion.
I've been using a 30 gal. barrel(clear?)to get rid of ethanol for a long time.Ethanol will destroy my fiberglass saddle tanks on my bumpsides(3).When taking my trans-Texas jaunts,I put 5 gals. of Avgas and a squirt of 2-stroke lube to get my mileage back up.Of course,funding 60-80 gallons of pushwater is getting harder on a pension.
I have a small airport about a mile from me and I buy my chainsaw and splitter gas from there. Aviation fuel doesn't have ethanol, is higher in octane and has stabilizer in it already. All this for about two dollars more per gallon.
Put a gas shutoff valve on your mower. Shut the valve off and run the mower til it dies after your last mow of the season or any time you are not going to run the engine. My honda started up first pull after not using it for a year. ALL gasoline will gum up your carb. Long before they came up with ethanol carbs plugged up.
We ran a Texaco station in the early days and the fuel was the best there was, our Skycheif was 104😮 octane and no ethanol, no corn , no fumes, just straight up gas that was clear like water, you could even burn it in your gas lanterns
White gas ?
I do the same thing with my old mower gas, no matter what you do it gets water in it! Put the gas in a large clear bottle like a dish soap bottle key part here is the valve, add gas and water shake let separation happen turn bottle over and open valve top squeeze out water… your done, put the rest in your tank! You could just decant your mix like wine but you may get some water in your tank, if your not very careful. Dont worry about octane its a mower after all.
Love your Reher and Morrison tee-shirt. I took their engine building class back in 2010. Thank you for the great informative videos!!!
Reher and Morrison/ Shepherd were some of my Heros. I bet that was a great class!!
Andy
I am giving you a big thumbs up for all the informative comments listed below. The explanations of engine knock, vaporization, ethylene glycol, ethanol subsidies, adding dye to the separation mixture, the safety warning about storing chemicals in unlabeled containers, etc. You have an excellent, well informed community following your content, and I commend them.
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Pretty cool little experiment there Andy.
Here in Mississippi, regular 87 octane is sold for $3.00 per gallon. The ethanol free gas is $3.30 per gallon (actually, these numbers have gone a little higher recently). So you can pay a 10% premium to keep that ethanol out of your gas, or lose 10% by removing 10% of your purchase when you remove the ethanol and throw it away. At least here, the smart move is to pay the premium and save the labor of removing the ethanol, unless of course, you have some use for water infused ethanol.
Your probably still getting 5% ethanol and not even realizing it.
@@tacticalcenter8658 nope
@jimibmore unless you are using a laboratory to extract the ethonal you are not going to get 100% free ethonal. It's just not gonna happen without sacrificing some of the fuel.
Very nice science experiment Andy.
Pretty cool.
Thank you.
Take care, Ed.
Thanks Ed! I'm glad you liked it..
Andy
That was a great demonstration! Thanks!
Well there isn’t any debate - once they added ethanol I started having difficulties for small engines.
The new fuels have ruined many fuel systems of old vehicles. It is also responsible for many vehicle fires due to the ethanol attacking the rubber lines and seals, causing fuel leaks and fires.
A few years ago, I saw a beautiful Rolls Royce catch on fire on the freeway, it completely demolished the car. The car was someone's prized collector piece they would take out on a Sunday drive, now it is gone to the scrapyard.
Messes with the mixture. My riding mower misses a bit and smells gassy on ethanol-laced and smooth and odor-free on plain gasoline.
@@antilogism This video isn't intended for E85, it is intended for E10 or E15.
E85 is mostly ethanol, you shouldn't be using E85 in something designed for regular pump gas.
@@davidparker9676 remember cash for clunkers??? All part of their devious plan to get reliable vehicles off the road so they can sell you new garbage vehicles
You've been having difficulties since the 1970's when Carter mandated ethanol in gasoline?
That's some bad luck there.
Were lucky to have Ethanol free Boat Gas here runs about $1.00 a gallon more but my mower loves it
I have a BP near me that sells 90 Octane Ethanol-Free for about $1.00 more also. I've used it in my 08 300C and the car in my profile pic (79 Cordoba). They both love it!
You can also buy a separatory funnel and stand and do it a lot easier. You would just drain the water and ethanol out of the bottom. Also, letting it sit longer would result in better results as far as the gasoline is concerned.
I have an aviation water filter and ethanol molecules are smaller than water, stays on top. passes straight through the filter
Awesome experiment thanks for sharing
AWESOME!!! Somebody needs to make an automated gizmo to do that. They'd sell a bunch to the automotive scene. Ethanol is the scourge of performance cars everywhere.
Why not just go to the pump marked non ethanol & pump that?
@@rawister Some places mandate ethanol be added to gasoline with no consumer choice possible.
Nice! A good thing to know! 💯
What you need is a chemistry set separation funnel. You can bleed off liquids out the bottom of the separation funnel with much better precision and save yourself some gasoline.
Ethanol is not just soluble in water, it is miscible, so mixes completely at any ratio...so I think the layer in the milk jug at the end is some gas, rather than ethanol. It wouldn't mix just long enough to transfer out of the gas can, then suddenly divide into separate phases just because it's in a different container.
I use avgas in mowers for the last mow of the season, not because it is 100 octane, but because of its storage properties, it will store a long time. Even when very old, it doesn't form varnish, just blue goo that easily dissolves in more gas.
This works much better than gas stabilizers, which I don't think much of. The 100 octane is unnecessary but harmless. You might expect harder starting due to its slightly lower volatility, but I haven't noticed, even in snowblowers here in PA winters.
I just mention the avgas because ethanol makes unused carbs dirty even faster than auto gas did before ethanol was added, which was bad enough!
Yes. I have used avgas since I was able to get it from a local airport in the mid 70's.
I use it in all my small engines as well.
Wht about ina jeep/truck ? Would higher octane be harmful??
Not sure about US 100 av gas but in Canada it has way too much lead in it for small 4stroke engines. causes valve and plug issues over time,, same as it does in piston aircraft engines. All our fuel sucks these days.
I agree with you on the lead...I wish I could get the exact qualities of avgas, especially its stability in storage, without the lead. I haven't had lead fouling issues, but most of the engines I use it in don't get all that much use. Thus the need for Long lasting avgas. But the lead fouling is a possibility. Plus it's toxicity isn't a great quality, but I'm ok with minimizing my exposure to it.
Most modern motor oils lack additives to disperse the crap that leaks by the rings, so that is a possible problem, too, but I haven't noticed it. Any 4 stroke I use it in gets frequent oil changes.
That’s very interesting andy thank you for the info
I'm glad you enjoyed it Keith!
Thanks for watching
Andy
Didn't come on the scene in 2008, it was widely used in the 90s. My friends dad is the one who developed it and was using it for racing. He passed away in February. He had a full size lab in his garage to make it at home still as a hobby. But he spent over 30 years of his life running and setting up production plants to make ethanol.
Making ethanol in a garage is a fire hazard. Making it in an attached garage is suicide.
Funny, I was just thinking of trying non ethanol gas for my 408 ci Nova (plus octane booster). Pretty slick Andy, pretty slick!
Go to your LITTLE airport and buy the 100 avgas, won't go bad. (We still have our '69 Nova wife bought before we were married, my '35 Buick, '57 & '59
Chev pickup, one with the big window in rear.)
@@chuckredd9131 used 100LL for years then the local airport kicked me out for loaden up my 5 gal cans! It was $7.31 per gallon at the time.
It would be better and easier to use a jug that is tapered at the bottom and has a drain valve. Then you can more easily get the water out completely.
Something like a 2L separatory funnel
Something like a Mr. Funnel!!!!!!!
Just TILT THE JAR. all the water will settle and you'll have a SMALL POCKET of water left at the end of your siphoning. Won't waste gas. (Throwing the gas out with the water.😅)
@@skyraider2021 Yep - my choice.
I've been doing similar in the winter time when it's below freezing. Put the gas in using a funnel, it catches the ice.
Ive been using a water blocking filter I bought from amazon for my final fuel pour into the machinery.
Pretty cool. All I have is a lawn mower and I know just how much fuel it takes to mow my lawn. I run E85 and just let it run out of fuel when I am finished.
Do you mean E10? You should not be running E85 in a mower.
MAN I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS THANKS ANDY
Thanks Mike!
Andy
Good stuff Andy. Pretty cool😎
that was cool man and thanks for sharing it.
Thanks for watching I'm glad you enjoyed it
Andy
Very interesting!
That's cool man, so what's that corn liquor that you extracted taste like without the gas in it?🤔
More and more I'm needing to make a biodiesel stille
Thats interesting. Very helpful
Thanks for watching
Andy
I knew I shouldn’t have skipped those classes.
Since the ethanol acts as the antiknock agent do you add other antiknock components? In the 1970's I worked for Ethyl Corporaton and at our site we made Tetra Ethyl Lead and Tetra Methyl Lead for gasoline.
So what do you do with the ethonol you have left over?
Great video, I thought you was going to use crude oil to make it 😆 🤣 😂 lol
What do you do with the water/ethanol waste?
so what do you do with the ethanol that is left? is there a use for it or you just use it to start fires around the house burn garbage or whatever. or can you put it back in your car and Burn It Off
What happens to the octane number when you do that? It is quite common to mix in 20-30% ethanol (E85) in regular petrol, to raise the octane number here in Sweden.
it lowers the octane of the Gasoline.. It can vary based on the % of Ethanol used.
Thanks for watching Peter,
Andy
Here in Norway we only get E10 and 98 Octane. Once they discontinue the 98 I guess I'm gonna have to create a facility for streamlining this process.
This was Awesome
Thanks Zero! I'm glad you liked it
Andy
Just a question... noted you provided the safety feature of doing this in an open air environment...(good), but what about making sure the mix is grounded?
Or is this not required for safety?
I could be wrong but doesn't leaving the mix open to the air whilst settling out allow the more volatile shorter chain hydrocarbons to evaporate out of the gas? It's short chain evaporation that makes stored gas go stale and it is then less willing to fire on start up. Just a thought.
You can also contact the fuel jobber and buy ethanol free fuel direct from them. The ethanol is not added at the refinery. The jobber adds it as it is needed.
That was awsome thanks
I just removed the ethanol from 16 gallons of gasoline ⛽️; and stabilized it with STA-BIL 360, SeaFoam and a little Red HEET. This should get me through the winter… in the spring… what ever is left will go
In my car… and I will start again… ⛽️
What octane did you end up with? When you remove the 110+ octane ethanol you lower the octane of the fuel.
Great video, Andy!
Thanks Brother
Thank goodness we have a Bucees, they sell 87 E0 for a very reasonable price (10 cents more than 87 E10)
Been using 87 octane in lawnmower, weed eater and chainsaw for close to ten years with no problems
What do you do with the ethanol?
So for running a small engine like a chainsaw is it better to use a 91 octane with ethanol or an ethanol free at 85 octane? In a small two cycle engine does the octane really matter? I live in California and it is hard to find ethanol free gas. Thank you for your help.
so what do you do with the syphoned ethanol/water?.
Cool tips thank you much
What do you do with the ethanol that’s been separated?
Great vidja 🤙🏼
So what happens to the ethanol? How do you get rid of it? Is there a use for it?
What do you do then with the ethanol and water???
So, in the first jar the ethanol is mixed with water in the bottom while pur gas is above, but when you extract it back to the water jug miraculously the water and ethanol don't mix up anymore...? that doesn't add up...
Now you need to make moonshine Andy, interesting vid.
😂
Thanks brother!
@@UnityMotorSportsGarage your most welcome.🤣
My local Walmart started selling ethanol free 87 octane about a year ago, but this is a cool trick to know!
If done on a regular basis, it would behoove one to have a container with a quarter turn spout at the very bottom; much easier to drain than siphon.
Question can you just siphon off the top good gas instead of pulling the bottom ethanol
How do you dispose of the contaminated water and ethanol ?
What happens with all the waste mixture?
ok ok, but what did you do with the extracted ethanol? why doesnt anyone cover what they do with it?? Forget the 'you can drink it' thing, can it be used in wick lamps or kill weeds with it or what?
Everyone recommends a different amount of water added- everything from 2 oz per gallon up to a quart that you use here. I think about one cup per gallon is enough.
So what your telling us is you need to start with a higher grade of Gasoline and expect it to drop a few numbers in the final product. if it's really an issue you can add some Toluene to bump the octane figure up a touch.
"I'm gonna show you how to do this."
"Don't do this at home."
Very ingenious like it. I hope you and maybe David Vizard could show use how to make your own octane booster
We might just do that..
Andy
Awesome.
Worked so quickly! I only use 93 oct in my lawn equipment. Under heavy grass load I can hear the motors flirting with detonation.
Yeah it's pretty quick.. I normally let it set for 15 Minutes to make sure it totally separates.. thanks for watching
Andy
What is the cost of a galon of gas that is freed fom the ethanol. wished you had shown the volume of gas you started with and the volume you finished with. especially in cold weather adding 100% isopropanal dry gas would mix any remaining water with the gas and prevent carb-iceing.
So how much gas did you get from the water and how much of gas did u start with?
90 Octane alcohol free is available at the pump near me, I only use it in my two stokes, and fill up with it for storage over the winter. Cool vid tho.
I know absolutely Nothing about engines or fuel systems. Would you mind explaining what the purified gas or the separated ethanol is used for? It was cool to see the process I just don't know enough about mechanic stuff to understand the purpose❤
One problem with this is the ethanol raises the octane levels of gas. When you remove it from 87 octane what is the octane level afterwards? If you take 87 octane fuel and add 10% ethanol it will be 89-90 octane fuel. What if you start at 87?
Can't you take the tube out once the bottom ethanol portion is gone? It seems like you kept siphoning well after just the ethanol was gone which seems like a waste
Interesting!
Is there any use for the ethanol? I hate to waste something I paid for.
Cool stuff
thanks andy