Should You Go to College or Flight School First?
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- Should you go to college or flight school first? 🤔
This video provides a timeline of the two scenarios, so you can decide which is best for you. ✈️
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00:00 - Intro
00:17 - The Difference between Flight School and College
00:40 - Why Would a Pilot Pursue a Degree?
01:00 - Bachelor’s Requirement
01:10 - The Most Efficient Route to Becoming a Pilot
01:41 - College First
03:28 - Flight School First
04:26 - College Partnership
05:02 - Which is Better?
05:27 - The Pros of Flight School First
07:09 - Which is More Enjoyable?
07:28 - Outro
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Thank you for your thoughtful comment! We wholeheartedly agree that every individual's path to their dreams is unique, and we don't intend to compare or diminish anyone's choices. Our video simply aims to provide valuable guidance for those aspiring to become career pilots.
Time is a finite resource, and we believe that having information about the most efficient path to your dream can help you spend more time living it, rather than working towards it. We understand that people may choose different routes for various personal reasons, and we respect those choices. Our goal is to empower prospective pilots with the knowledge they need to make informed decisions that align with their goals and aspirations.
Ultimately, we're here to support all aviation enthusiasts on their journey towards becoming career pilots, and we wish everyone the best in reaching for the skies!
AIRLINES DROPPED THE DEGREE REQUIREMENTS. IF THAT TELLS YOU ANYTHING. THE GOAL IS DIVERSITY..... DEAL WITH IT HOMIE
Minimum age for ATP is 23 years old. If you start flight training school at age 18, you will have accumulated 1,500 mics by age 21. How will you continue when the FAA does not allow ATP under age 23?
Adding more weight and thought to the College First path:
This is a very important question for those interested in pursuing a career in aviation and specifically for those interested in a career with the major airlines. This is the first video that I have seen that starts to tackle this question and I think it is a very good start in providing individuals with some things to think about. As in every choice there are trade-offs and probabilities of the outcomes being achieved when you are comparing A vs B (vs C vs etc). In this case I would like to weigh-in and provide some additional things to think about, that build on what is already touched on in this video; and may even respectfully challenge some of the implied assumptions and conclusions in the comparative analysis i.e. A) I liked the side by side timeline; that is a great framework and tool to build the analysis i.e. that was awesome…here are some things to layer on to some of the assumptions stated i.e. the timeline implies that both paths will immediately lead to a regional airline job after flight school / hours are accomplished; and that after 4 years both paths will lead to an immediate airline job…. which suggests that you are better off taking the “Flight School First” path. This however, practically can only hold true in an environment where Demand for jobs dwarfs the Supply of pilots meeting the minimum hours; and to be fair…since COVID and up until recently this was probably the case…and demand will continue to be high in the next few years; however while demand for jobs is not going away, the gap between demand for jobs and supply is starting to narrow....and while as stated in the video the formal requirement of having a college degree is no longer applicable; in a narrower demand / supply environment it will (in my humble opinion) become a competitive advantage for those that will have it…and this is where the analysis of the timeline gets impacted. For example, let’s take 20 individuals and split them into two groups of 10 (one group for each path)…Now let’s say there is a regional airline that has a posting for 5 pilots…I believe that the College First Group will have an advantage and will fill most of those positions…the point is that while the College first will take a few year more to get to the “regional” stage of the journey they will most likely convert into a job faster than the flight school first cohort…and I have seen some communications that suggests airlines (everything else equal) are again starting to factor the degree in their hiring assessment B) The comparison has to also reflect more than 10 years i.e. like any business / industry, aviation goes (and I believe will continue to go) through cycles; from Pilot Shortages to Furloughs … and again this is where having a degree is a positive / differentiator when pilots are recalled after a trough in the business cycle….in short I think both paths as stated in the video have their trade-offs and are options to consider for those that have a passion and want to pursue a career in aviation. My points simply highlight that for those also interested in the major airlines as a career should give a little more weight to the College First path, than is stated in the video; especially thinking about their long term aviation journey. Thank you.
Awesome comparison video. I just recently had 2 professional pilots tell me to skip the bachelor degree( I already have an associates) and go straight to getting your ratings due to the current state of the industry. I'm a middle aged person as well so speed is everything right now. I'm an RN and can always get my BSN online later. Besides, I have the ultimate back up career if things change in the industry. BTW, an RN only takes 2yrs to get and you can work 3 days a week for a full time salary and pretty much anywhere in the country you want which gives you plenty of flexibility to do flight training while still working and making a pretty good wage.
This is so so helpful. I am only 16 but am homeschooled and plan to graduate next year. I have been looking at different paths to take and this has taken my interest. I am also trying to convince my mom to let me do flight school. This was so helpful. Much appreciated!
That’s awesome! Good luck achieving your dream!
This is exactly the video I needed, thanks Andy!
I got you!! 😎
We’re glad you liked it! 😁
@@BlueLineAviationcan I get a loan to pay for flight school
@@alimhond656 Yes! We have financing options available as well!
It is impressive that you can finish all of your ratings in 5.5 months at your school, but your college timeline just isn’t accurate depending on the school. The school I am training at sees all of its students graduate in just 3 years. Being a collegiate program, we only need 1,000 hours for our R-ATP. Most students graduate with 500-1,000 flight hours. The college has connections with airlines like Frontier, and I have many friends that have been hired at Frontier after just 3 years. The rest only need a few extra months of instructing to reach 1,000. Although Frontier isn’t a major, it has a similar schedule, pay, and benefits. The switch from Frontier to a major is very easy at that point. I do think your school may still be faster, but college can be much faster than you described it to be, and there are some other advantages of going to a college instead.
I like this. May you name this college please?
@@tyciarlo1999 Purdue University
Thank you for your comment! We recognize that each person's flight training journey is unique. Our program is specifically structured to help our students graduate faster than any other school in the US, enabling them to start earning money as a CFI and accumulating flight hours sooner. By reaching the 1500-hour milestone sooner, our students are also maximizing their return on investment, as they don't spend years in school without income. Although we highlight this, our primary aim in this video is to provide valuable information and allow aspiring pilots to make informed choices that align with their unique goals and aspirations.
What school do you go to? And would you recommend going to college?
you stated "friends that have been hired at Frontier after just 3 years", is this 3 years after graduating or the 3 years it took them to graduate?
This video really layed it for to me thank you
Both. Now universities are also offering bachelor’s degrees in Aviation plus including a pilot’s license
Which ones?
Which universities?
Embry Riddle, UND theyre expensive tho
Eastern Kentucky university
@@balamdavincimiddle georgia state
Thank you so much! this was so useful and really cleared up some questions I had. I dropped a well deserved sub for you. Keep it up!
Thank you!
@@BlueLineAviationMinimum age for ATP is 23 years old. If you start flight training school at age 18, you will have accumulated 1,500 mics by age 21. How will you continue when the FAA does not allow ATP under age 23?
@@MaMu-oz3yf Good question! We highly recommend you check out our other video called "Becoming A Pilot After High School". It directly answers that question!
I could’ve used this video a couple years ago before I decided to finish my degree first 😅
😅😅
Would you recommend I get a degree as a back up? Or double majoring in an aviation university?
@@gbma3241 It really comes down to personal preference and your long-term goals. Some opt for a degree not related to aviation as a backup in case flying isn't an option, but remember, losing the ability to fly doesn't mean you can't work in the industry. The aviation field is resilient but people like to avoid the ripple effect of an industry that is experiencing any problems.
Others choose an aviation degree for a stronger industry connection. However, some people skip a degree because it's quite an expensive option for a backup plan. Instead, they may acquire trade skills or explore financial security through business ownership or investments. Ultimately, it's about aligning your choices with your aspirations and financial considerations.
I ll one day join this 6 months training!
We’ll be here!
I’m at a financial crossroads here and I’m probably most likely going to full time flight school and taking out loans and hopefully as a regional pilot I will continue College for a business degree and also have the time and resources to be-able to concentrate in a school. My grandparents want me out of there place and financially I can’t do it unless full time entry level jobs with no experience and no degrees which is not a life I want!!!
Sounds like you’ve got a good plan!
This definitely sounds like a better option than going to Embry Riddle full time. Wish I would have saw this video four years ago.
We think so too!
Wdym. Please elaborate. Thank you!
The best video on this topic. Thanks!
Im 15 right now, what do you recommend I do while im still in High School??
You’re welcome! We suggest creating a post-graduation plan as well as trying a discovery flight to confirm your interest in this career path! Starting college-level courses in high school will also help with you attain your bachelor's degree more efficiently and make yourself more competitive. Contact one of our training advisors for help with these steps!
Quick Question, Would This Work As A Path To The Majors: ATP Flight School (9 Months). Time Building As CFI (2 Years). Regionals (4 Years). Envoy Air want some college to be completed as you apply so I would do Embry Riddle Worldwide (Online) for those first two years as a CFI, then for the next two years at the regionals, I would complete my Bachelors degree. Thank You!
Yes! We would recommend pursuing your degree while time building or at the regionals instead of during or before flight school. This would equate to less time accumulating debt and a quicker route to the majors! Also, some flight schools like ours have partnerships with colleges to allow your flight training to count towards your bachelor's, meaning you would complete your degree even faster. That info is here: www.bluelineaviation.com/purdue-partnership
Hey, I’m 16 years old and I’m graduating early in January. Since you guys require 18 years of age to start the program. What would you recommend me to do in the meanwhile?
I had the idea to pursue an associate degree for 2 years in mechanical engineering, try to get my PPL in the summer, then get to the program once I turn 18 while finishing my bachelors online. Do you think this is a good idea?
I also have another question. Do the flight school credits in Blueline go to mechanical engineering in Perdue global?
Lastly, do think people can handle both college and accelerated flight school at the same time? If so, what are some strategies people use.
I would really appreciate an answer!
That's awesome! We have a team of training advisors that can give you a more personal and detailed plan of action than we could give on here. Head to our website to input your contact information! bluelineaviation.com
what day do you classes start i would like to apply after highschool but doesn’t look like you guys have times in june?
Our classes usually start on every other Monday, but one of our training advisors can help you with a specific request regarding enrollment dates!
Many colleges have a flight school. University of North Dakota is one of the most respected degrees in the aviation world, and a person can reach the airlines with less hours and less debt.
UND is an excellent program, and many colleges offer great options for those who desire to take that route! What we do is provide accelerated training for those who want to prioritize flying for a career. In as little as 5.5 months, our graduates can get paid as a career pilot. This means our alumni won't be accruing additional debt but rather earning money while time-building. From 0 experience, our graduates usually hit 1500 hours in 1.5 to 2 years, which means they will go to the airlines, charter, or corporate sooner than those who choose a bachelors program.
Oh okay i understand
Hey I want to join L3 Harris in Florida ... I heard they offer degrees but i just wanted to confirm since i have been contacting them but i heard no reply ..... Do you think theu have degrees
Minimum age for ATP is 23 years old. If you start flight training school at age 18, you will have accumulated 1,500 mics by age 21. How will you continue when the FAA does not allow ATP under age 23?
Hi, I hope this message finds you well. I have a few questions regarding obtaining a bachelor's degree after attending Blue Line Aviation. I am curious if it is possible for me to go to Embry Riddle rather than pursuing another path. Additionally, I would like to know more about the opportunities for international students to study there. Do I need to finish my Bachillerato in Spain before attending Blue Line Aviation? Furthermore, I am starting to plan for my dream college after Blue Line Aviation and I am curious about the payment options available for students. Thank you in advance for your assistance.
if you're planning to come to Riddle, get at least your private first. If possible, get as many certificates as you can so you can work as a CFI in Riddle and do your degree. For international, apply for either the F-1 (riddle) or M-1 (if you dont want work in the US only flying)
I was wondering about the difficulty of getting a job without a bachelor degree? How successful have your students been getting jobs without the degree?
Nearly all pilot positions no longer require a degree, although having one can be advantageous in highly competitive fields. Our graduates without degrees have successfully secured jobs with airlines, cargo companies, and corporate employers with no issues. The most important factor is flight experience! This is why we recommend going to flight school first if your goal is to be a pilot.
Curious if you know if the school is approved by the VA. I have the post 911 gi bill I’m looking to use. Already have PPL
Unfortunately, we are unable to accept the GI Bill at this time.
Be careful how you spend your G.I. Bill. You only get it once.
Some colleges such as mine, only require you to get 1000 hours to get an r-atp so you only have to actually get 750 hours as an instructor rather than 1250
Which college is that
@@amanirichards8696 Utah Valley University
high quality video
Thanks! 🙏
Can you do one for if you want to do air force through rotc
Great idea!
Can anyone explain what is degree???
What about schools like Embry Riddle Aeronautical University? Wouldn’t that also help me better too and get the flight hours I need to get into the major airlines?
Yes! However, we would say that if your goal is to fly for the airlines or any aviation industry that values seniority, becoming a pilot and gaining flight hours sooner rather than later is the most important. Going to flight school first and taking college classes while time building allows you to gain seniority faster.
@@BlueLineAviation Thanks! It’s just I wanna become a JetBlue pilot but at the same time I wanna go to college so I have a stronger background with the degree. Is there like a way to do both at the same time?
@@LightSkies245 Absolutely! We believe that taking college courses to earn your bachelors while you are time building is the most efficient way. You can also earn college credit while earning your pilot certificates/ratings! Look into our partnership with Purdue Global: www.bluelineaviation.com/purdue-partnership. We recommend that you contact one of our training advisors to answer any specific questions you make have. Fill out a contact info form here: www.bluelineaviation.com/about/contact-us.
As a future veteran wouldn’t it make more sense to go to college full time as the GI bill will cover all tuition and flight costs as long as it doesn’t go over the 27k per year limit and getting housing allowance rather than spending 20k avg to get your privates license then the gi bill only paying half of your flight cost and only half of your bah
The extent of your GI Bill benefits hinges on factors like your service type, deployment history, and more. Not every GI Bill recipient receives full coverage. While having the GI Bill cover both full-time college and aviation training can alleviate debt concerns for aspiring pilots, it overlooks a critical aspect-seniority.
Entering service later delays your ability to fully commit to flight school or college, and most veterans don't pursue education during their initial years of service. Despite potential debt relief, the trade-off is falling years behind in seniority compared to peers who started earlier. Students who swiftly repay flight school debt can enter the industry with both seniority and financial freedom, outpacing those with lower debt but slower career progression.
@@BlueLineAviation thanks for the reply I agree seniority has a crucial impact on the decision to either do part 141 or part 61
I am from South asia. I can write , read and understand English but have a little lack of fluency in speaking. And also 28 yrs of age. Can i get into this course? And what are the criteria to get admission?
Proficient communication in English is essential for effective cockpit communication, air traffic control interactions, and overall safety during flight operations. Unfortunately, due to the nature of the program and the critical importance of clear and precise communication in aviation, we currently require all applicants, including international students, to possess fluent English speaking skills. If you have any further questions or if there's anything else we can assist you with, feel free to reach out!
Hi, I’m a high school senior. Planning to peruse career towards aviation. Is there any way I could talk with you and know little better?
Absolutely! Head to our website to submit a contact information form, and one of our training advisors will reach out to you to answer any questions you have!
Thank you so much@@BlueLineAviation
What if i already have an associates degree? Should i go to flight school or just finish my degree
Your decision depends on your personal preference, however, we suggest completing your certificates/ratings as quickly as possible before finishing your degree. This will grant you more seniority with the airlines and allow you to finish your degree while accumulating flight hours.
What subject do I need sir to do the aviation course
Will I be able to get a job as a pilot if I do the aviation course at a university
Any Bachelor’s will do! However, we recommend going to flight school before college if your goal is to be a pilot.
@@BlueLineAviation so is it mandatory to go to both a collage and flight school or u are able to choose one
@@Gracekadzombe If your dream is to be a pilot, you will need to train for your certificates/ratings. The quickest and most efficient way to do this is through flight school. A college degree will make you more competitive, but it is no longer required by major airlines.
Blue line is a good school I’m sure. But damm they charge about 120k for there program. There are schools that charge half that!
While the cost may be high, the investment proves to be highly valuable. Our goal is for our students to have a net positive investment quicker. Being the fastest program in the nation, our students start their careers as pilots sooner than those attending any other flight school!
@@BlueLineAviation how is that possible you guys give ratings out just like everyone else. You guys push magic buttons to get us to become airline pilots faster?
Does Blueline still have a college agreement with Purdue Global ? No reason you can’t do both.
Yes, we do! It’s mentioned at 4:26!
@@BlueLineAviation fantastic I didn’t know if that was still a thing! Looking forward to both school and flight training
@@PatrickAviator Awesome!
Anyway to do flight school and collage together?
Some colleges offer flight training alongside your academic program, and that could be the right step for you. However, we would say that this approach is less efficient, incurs higher costs in the long term, and demands more time. Opting for full-time flight school initially allows you to enter the airlines or another seniority-based industry sooner, while concurrently pursuing your bachelor's degree during time building.
You don’t need 1500 hours with a. Degree
Depends on the degree
Well you need collage first.
We would say that if you want to fly for a career, it is more efficient and less expensive to go to full-time flight school first!
collage becuse you cant get a job as a commercial without a collage degree.
We agree that everyone has their own path! However, the airlines, cargo companies, and other frequent employers no longer require a college degree for pilots! With that said, we would say it is more efficient to go to flight school first if your dream is to fly for a living.
straight up wrong
@@StrictlySportscaptain?🧢
@@samthomas6786you don’t need a degree at all
Hey is this flight school located anywhere near New Jersey ?
We have two locations: one in North Carolina and one in Florida!
@@BlueLineAviation thank you and one question ? If I were to choose the flight school and get all the certificates etc will I be able to fly international ? Without any college degree ?
@@sharjeelahmed7459 One of our training advisors would be the best route for answering these specific questions! Visit our website to contact us!