Should You Go To College For Aviation?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ย. 2020
- If you want to become a pilot, they're two types of flight schools you can attend. Part 141 and Part 61. In this video we'll go over both and decide whether or not going to an aviation university is worth the price tag.
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My name is Luke Pylypciw and I’m a 15 year old student pilot sharing my journey from student to professional pilot. I’ll bring you weekly videos of my training, experiences and the latest and greatest aviation has to offer. Adventure is in aviation.
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I love how you get straight too the point, you should be on number one on trending
Jaidan Hero Haha maybe someday! Glad you enjoyed!
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Love to see young people learning to fly. It's fun and rewarding as a career.
Good video man, thanks for clarifying and educating me on this topic. I’m looking forward to becom a pilot.
Of course. Glad you found it helpful and thanks for watching!
You will go far not only as a pilot, but in life as well. Good video and I hope your channel starts growing.
J Chambers Thank you so much!
This was helpful! My son is looking at Charleston Southern University for aviation, but was wondering about various options and stumbled on your channel. Great content! Thanks!
I’m glad I could help, Crystal! Since the creation of this video, various things have changed within the industry. Definitely check out future content for a more up to date discussion.
Love the confidence keep it up 💪🏻🔥
Great video man; super informative. I'm headed to Utah Valley this fall and couldn't be more stoked! Best of luck to you on your aviation journey. You gained a sub!
Thanks Aidan! Good luck in Utah!
Sans how are you liking it?
Are you happy you chose UVU?
@@bos6782 yes! It’s in a beautiful area in terms of scenery and outdoorsy things. The students are chill and the professors/ CFIs are knowledgeable and will work with you in every way to help you succeed
Very informative video! Keep up the great work!
Thank you!
Very informative Luke great job keep up the good work!
At 15 years with such a lot of knowledge like that really shows deep passion for aviation... Keep it up
GREAT Job Luke!!
Thank you Juan!
Great job explaining Luke! I’m researching now for my 16 yo son with a ppl now on which route to go. Thank you🎉
how is he 16 with a ppl you need to be 17
Great vid keep up the good work maybe a little better mic if possible
FreeSpiritAviation Thanks! I’m not sure if I was speaking too loud or if the mic was pressing against my shirt, but typically the audio quality out of that mic is much better than it was in this video. I will make sure it isn’t like this again!
Hey bud! Yess they prefer the degree especially the major airlines. But its better you do a degree non aviation related and get your ratings from a flight school (thats cheaper) and they dont care what field its in, they consider all majors. If anything happens to your medical your liscences are not valid anymore. They care more about your medical
My advise is to get a college degree in Aircraft Maintenance Engineering or Aircraft Maintenance Management while you flight train. This gives you more options if you decide not to continue with a pilot career later on.
Did you do this? If so can you please elaborate on your process. I’m considering doing both A&P and flight training. Not sure what order or if I do them simultaneously. Looking for advice. And if it would benefit me as a part 91 or part 135 pilot. Thank you.
@@mattmacdonald1967 Yes, I did this 40 years ago. There are more colleges around that offer the BS degree. First, you complete the A&P and then complete the engineering classes or management for the degree. During all this time, complete your flight training. Yes, it will be very busy.
Then you would be paying for flight school and college. You cant do both at one school unless you double major.
@@ricky-xm3dq I attended Parks College in St. Louis. My flight training was at Belleville Area College in Illinois. Or, you can take flight instruction at a local FBO.
so you went to college and did your flight training together at the same time? how did you pay for both and keep up with your grades.@@appomattoxross6751
Greattt video man
Appreciate it!
This helped me a lot.
The absolutely less expensive, flexible, and quality flight training is Purdue Global online. You can flight train at an approved local 141 flight school which saves on living costs plus your aeronautical courses are online and your Purdue Global professors monitor your flight training while you earn a degree. You have an experienced aviation mentor helping you with every decision…and the college degree is 30% less than going to an expensive campus.
Going to UND for commercial aviation in two weeks… the cost is 72 for tuition for all 4 years and 78 for the pilot program which is not that bad for flight training. Can’t forget the housing too which is 10k a year. So ya it’s definitely scary that I will be debt close to 200k but UND is a great program and will definitely make great connections that will make me have more opportunities in the aviation industry. Also have a great college experience.
How's UND going on?
Polk State College in Florida is a part 141 4 year program and is a much lower cost alternative.
und is trash 😂😂
Would of been nice if you just added a summary of pros and cons in description or comments.
Between cost and time I was wondering to do BBA instead of Bachelor in Aviation Management while I’m doing my ppl. Do u think is possible? Or should I finish aviation management first then do ppl? Thank you very much for all the value information.
Great video brother
Thanks, glad you enjoyed!
Thank you so much!
This is indeed a fine video, although you don't answer the question that you pose for yourself in the video title. ("Q: Should you go to college for aviation? A: Maybe.) One thing that might make a difference, so far as I understand things, is this: if you are a strong applicant, financial aid for universities can significantly decrease the cost of attendance. Purdue out-of-state tuition is about $15,000 per semester, but university students are eligible for scholarships that private flight schools don't offer, and that can bring the cost down significantly.
What kind of education is required to attend aviation school?
Great video! Im 18, looking for some options
Going through part 141 with a two year program. R-ATP 1,250 hours which helps a lot as well getting in the airline industry fast.
what program?
Same here R-ATP 1000 Hours with 60 Credit Hours
@@gretchenmaybelle3356You Can Go To Accredit Flight School Such as Liberty or Embry Riddle Part 141
Would aeronautical engineering and/or aerospace engineer be a good degree?. My parents don’t want me to take aviation so it those 2 which is the choice.
Thanks in advance!
I wouldn't say more airlines are requiring less college degrees as much as the regional airlines are more flexible about not having a degree, at the most a regional airlines may ask for a two year degree.
Totally about the regionals. Quite a few majors are no longer requiring a degree but it is definitely a big plus if you have one. Thanks for the comment!
I think the priority shouldn't be to the best candidate for the airlines. Instead it should be to get to 1500 hours quickest. The airlines have a shortage, they will hire most. But seniority is key.
This is Prashant Ranjitkar from Nepal and I had some queries and confusion. I am interested in aviation and piloting and I was wondering whether an international student can get a job as a pilot in the USA after doing a bachelor's in aviation?
If a non-US citizen or non-green cardholder can work in USA or will airlines hire foreigners and help to provide or sponsor with a working permit/visa?
What are the aspects for an international student in terms of career and what are the job opportunities?
If you do choose to get an aviation degree, make sure you minor in something that you can get a job with in case you do not find a job flying.
Absolutely!
No, I want to be an aviator nothing else
@@Cblizy Trust me, there is nothing more that I wanna be than a pilot. BUT don’t be too naive. It is not a guarantee that you will get a job in flying, so it’s just a fail safe to minor In something else you’re interested in so that you will still at least have a job.
While working on flight training at my local airport that I work at, I am also doing a 2 year paid internship with the local aircraft mechanic shop so I'll get a cfi rating and my a&p mechanic certification at similar times. That way I can get a job building hours towards an ATP but also have a very solid backup as an aircraft mechanic
Well done young man. I’m a retired aviator (military/contractor)…been flying since 1980. Proud ERAU/Dayton Beach grad (1988)…Army ROTC to flight school…flew helicopters and fixed-wing. Have lots of friends in the airlines and corporate. As a father of two, both kids went on to college or trade school. Wife a lawyer, she obviously went to undergrad/law school. I got two master’s degrees cuz the military made me go/paid for them. Nuff background…he’s my advice. Aviation is a trade, a professional trade. One doesn’t need a college degree to fly, clearly. However, to be competitive in the airlines/corporate or to go into the military, a degree is a requirement. A college degree signifies several positive traits and produces an older applicant. That normally translates to a little more maturity. Bottom line…affordability. If one can afford it, always always go for the education as it comes with more than just a degree (life experiences); however, if resources (time/money) are a constraint, then getting ones’ license/certs as quickly as possible to gain the necessary aircraft hours is probably the best course of action. Regardless of how, flying and aviation is the best most rewarding career…the best office view in the world, and working alongside other aviation professionals is a wonderful life. Best of luck to all in this endeavor. Enjoy every minute as it goes far too quickly!
I already have a bachelors degree but want to go to a university with a flight school so that I can use a federal fafsa loan so that I don’t need a co-signer on a loan. The private flight schools don’t allow you to use fafsa and you need a private loan.
Luke, I asked to UNOF(north dakota) they told me to join after completing secondary school but didn`t u join at 15yrs old??
Great video luck I just want say last time that I talked with an airline pilot he told me because of the virus the people with college degree are going to be more competitive to get the job
Hakeem AL SHAMARTI Absolutely. I think if you have the means to do so getting a degree will give you an upper hand! Thanks for watching!
What's the cost(fees) in North dakota univ. For training? And what's your opinion, Is degree is important? I'm 16yrs so can I start my training from North dakota? If I start my training then how can I get my degree(bachelor of aviation)?
Got my A&p ,work I’m avionics. Very happy with my career
how in the world is this kid 15 (at the time of the vid) and doing 5x more then me. My dude, your going places
University; live in a co-ed dorm for the social aspect with a wide gender, race, regional, cultural, student body (not a frat white male animal house and for sure not a military academy), however if you want to join the military flight training after university it is the most tech flight quality training of any civilian flight schools part 61 or 141, but highly structured & fast paced. You would not believe how many good tech pilots who have no social skills, even some do not consider Flight Attendants as crew members, these pilots tend to go into the training department in the dark simulator box. Half of going away to university is not only for the tech ed but also for developing a well rounded education and the social aspect on interacting with other crew members who come with all genders, races, regions, cultures, religion or lack of, in America & the world. Which a number or airlines in the world have greater pay, benefits & respect for pilots then USA management airlines. Plenty of state universities (much lower cost) associated with flight schools for class credits toward a degree. Also pick a university in friendly weather conditions (not 20F below snow ND or 100F high humid FL) weather can play havoc with a smooth training progression program. Great to be pumped up & ready to take a your check ride then here comes another tornado.
Hey man how are you doing
Ok so are they any varsities with all courses that actually also do provide aviation courses
No, I go to Riddle and trust me it’s not all that. Yeah the restricted ATP is nice and it’s nice having the airlines come to school and what not, but honestly the cost and overall lack of practicality of a flight degree in anything outside of aviation makes me feel it’s not worth it. Plenty of pilots in the majors have degrees in things that has nothing to do with aviation and having a regular degree will give you a solid backup. Very informative video though snd you make great points 👍
Wait fr? What would you recommend?
@@Nolimitfredo24 regular college degree and flight train on the side or just go to accelerated flight school
@@boeingfan2479 I can still become a commercial pilot through accelerated flight school?
@@boeingfan2479 it’s a matter of paying for it, people can’t pay unless they have the pilots license hidden within a college degree that you can get a fasfa to help pay for.
I’m a Ghanaian, 20years of age and has completed high school, please how can I enroll in a flight school in US?
What do you think of Spartan Aviation and the 17 mo program in Tulsa Oklahoma ?
Did I miss the link for 141 school list? Your video says you’ll attach it, if I missed it I’m sorry.
Should have stood stage right so we could see the plane throughout the whole video.
is your intro from RHV tower? i recognize the controllers voice
I'm 33 and want a life change, so I look into aviation just for this literal child(no offense, you seem way more mature and together than me🤦♂️) to tell me about school.
Never too late. I hope you get to take a discovery flight and see if aviation is for you!
I turn 42 this week and I'm looking to reboot my life too. The future is now, old timer; let's do this!
I'm a CFI at WMU and did most of my training there and it is easily better than Purdue or Embry Riddle. It does cost a lot but nothing compared to those two and you fly better aircraft than them. $250,000 is a gross overestimate to how much it costs at WMU.
I got into WMU for aviation but didn’t end up going there
You carry yourself so maturely as a 15 year old
Thank you!
I’m looking for a college to start my flight training so I can get a bachelors and my flight training (cert etc). what do I search online to find these schools. I’m having a hard time. Should I search aviation colleges, etc
Use the first link in the bio to see a list!
Any aviation colleges in Canada that you recommend?
So can i study computer science and do flight training at the same time with scholarship in these universities
I believe at the majority of universities, you need to be an aviation related major to do flight training. I would research that as it is unique for you!
Hey Luke
Which is the cheapest aviation college?
Good bro
Thoughts on SFA’s new aviation program?
I’ve heard of it but don’t know much. But hopefully it will be another great option for prospective students!
You do not have to go to an aviation college, and in my personal opinion nobody should. Here’s why: pretty much every single aviation colleges training rates is extremely high. On top of that if your medical ever has issues for whatever reason or you lose it, you are out of a job with a useless aviation flight science degree. R-ATP is extremely overrated. 1000 hours is nice, but not worth it in the grand scheme of things. I was set and signed up to go Western Michigan University in 2020, and I pulled out at the last second because I didn’t want to be $200,000 in debt. 2 years later, I am a CFI at a local airport and 1 1/2 years away from a business degree. WMU is so backed up that I wouldn’t even have a private yet if I went. I will likely reach 1500 hours end of 2023. I wouldn’t be anywhere close to that. I’m also only $60k in debt compared to the $200,000 I would’ve been. My best advice to you guys, get your certificates at your local airport, go to community college for a year or two, and get a degree you can use incase you lose your medical. You will save a great deal of time and money.
Thanks Mark. It sounds like with your specific situation you made the right choice. I think a collegiate flight program is the right choice for many people. For example, I’m attending a university for aviation management which leaves me with many options if I ever wasn’t able to fly. I didn’t apply to WMU for the exact reason you stated. At my school, I start flying week one. Thanks for the comment!
Hold up did he just say 15 year old????? I have so much respect for this man I'm 19 still debating on if I should be a pilot or not
Thanks Blake! I’m 17 now, but at the time of this video, I believe I was 15. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy future content.
When I studied on campus at Purdue (West Lafayette, Indiana) I saw a LOT of pilots there in the military. A LOT. Purdue is no party school… it’s a very rigorous university.
Are und and Mankato good programs?
I’m from Kent and I want to become a commercial airline pilot and my father works at Kent state university there so I get free touition to go there so would Kent be a good option to become a pilot?
@@babygiraffebarkley2173 Absolutely
where is the link
Great topic. Although many disagree with me, here’s my opinion on the matter. I’m not knocking these institutions that issue costly degrees with certification, however ATPs with, or without a degree are being furloughed as we speak. When “auto land” and “remote flying” become a household topic and the future of commercial aviation, I know a lot of pilots who will look back at their ADM ( airman decision making) and wonder if $150K paid to a part 141 institution was worth it.
Jamerican Pilot Sure! I don’t believe pilots will be extinct anytime soon simply because of the human factor. But time will tell right? Thanks for watching!
Is the ERAU Master degree from an online program the same as a residential master program? I mean does the world or USA admit the online master's degree just as the same as residential education?
My apologies but I do not have the answer to that question! I’d try a forum or Facebook group for the answer.
@@LukePylypciw Thank you
So does Part 141 and part 61 matter then? Or will both of them get the same goal eventually?
It doesn’t matter whether or not you fly through a part 141 or 61 flight program, you receive the same exact licenses and ratings. However, the two offer two different paths to get those licenses and ratings depending on your situation. Hope this answers your question!
@@LukePylypciw great! So I have been accepted into Aviation Technology. But a lot of people say most students will learn to be a pilot in Aviation management. I know that aviation technology includes fixing planes. Can I also be a pilot if I graduate from an aviation technology degree?
@@JINSEOK3716 I am not familiar with the title “Aviation Technology.” If it is a degree where you get your A&P, you will not be doing any flight training. Aviation management is generally the business side of things (not pilots) although this isn’t always the case. Aeronautical science, Flight science, etc, is generally the students who are doing flight training at the university. You do not need to get your ratings at a university! Any local flight school can do the same thing.
okay so my question is
if i can become a pilot from purdue university ? someone please answer this
or if i can become a commercial airline pilot if i passout from purdue university?
Any advice for international students
Are you in UND or Purdue?
am from india and i want to start my aviation in USA can you suggest me a best university.
some universities I recommend are Auburn, Ohio State University, Embry-Riddle, North Dakota, and Purdue.
never mind😶
i cant qualify for conventional loans so college kinda is the only way
Which college would u suggest for international student for masters in aviation which is both affordable and good
I have no knowledge on any schools outside of the US. Although they’re SO many in the US. Just search it up on google and you’ll get plenty of results. The best school is different for everyone.
@@LukePylypciw ty
I wanna start my flight(I'm 15 like u)....How can I get admission there? at 18yrs? I wanna start my training from the USA I don't have any Idea... how can I manage my Class 11 and 12?(grade high school)Is there any entrance exam to get admission there or just marksheet of class 10(grade)?
Thank you for the questions! In the US, you have to complete high school to earn admission at college. First, I would start with focusing on school and getting good grades! Once your junior and senior year (11th and 12th) come around, you can begin looking at different universities that offer aviation programs. You will need to go to the schools website to apply and submit your high school transcript, SAT/ACT scores, reference letters, and often times an essay to give the admissions counselors insight on who you are as a person. I hope this answers your question!
@@LukePylypciw Umm! In my country till class 10 its high school and 11 and 12 its senior secondary so In ur perspective I should complete my school(class 12) I should start at 18yrs, right?Or entering in class 11 then I start? Do u start at 16yrs? Should I take SAT/ATC exam.... What should I submit? And Thank u so much for ur answer. 🥰Is there any entrance exam in North dakota for admission?
Hey luke , i am egyptian citizen who wants to be a. Airline pilot , is there any aviation academies that gurantee the job after finishing studying ???
There is never a 100% guarantee but the best chances of becoming an airline pilot would be to go through a flow program like Delta Propel or United Aviate! Hope this helps.
@@LukePylypciw luke, i am going to follow you on instgram , i have many questions about aviation and i will be very thankful to you if you help me to figure out them
@@LukePylypciw and also what is meant by flow program ?
I'm also and Egyptian that's currently studying aviation in the usa almost done with my ppl message me if you need help
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Why he says 250k to be an airline pilot in embry riddle? Like the tuition per year is 33k with no scholarships. For 4 years is like 129k which by having a high gpa and extracurriculars u can lower that price... i dont understand this dude
Thanks for the comment. Tuition is one part of the equation. You’re not taking into consideration the $60,000 - $100,000 on flight training, room and board, books, checkride fees, meal plans, and various other expenses. When you add all of this together, you’ll see where I get that figure from.
Can someone explain to me how the money works. Say I wanna go to Purdue to become a pilot and I get all of my certifications there and stuff, is the only thing I pay the tuition and room and board and stuff that every college kid has to pay for, or do I have to pay for all of that plus extra stuff for the flight aspect of college
You will have to pay for everything the traditional student does (room and boarding, tuition, etc) AND all of your flight fees which can be an additional $60,000-$100,000 depending on where you train.
@@LukePylypciw jeez
@@LukePylypciw but if tuition cost in-state is about 12 thousand a year which equates to about 48k. 60k-100k + 48k tuition is ranging from 108k-148k. This is way less than your 200k-250k or more to go to places like Purdue to receive all your licenses.
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Did you drop out of high school? how are you flying at 15? im genuinely asking
Nope! I did my private while in high school and now am doing the rest of my ratings while in college.
500 flight hours difference isn’t a lot of time, luke, it’s a lot of $$$$$$ ;)
Dan I Correct, if you pay for it, which most people don’t.
Is this regarding Australia?
Nope, US, sorry!
can i get to no more
You can! I would recommend doing your homework on the specifics of what you’re looking for.
Currently at MGA. One of the cheapest Aviation universities in the entire country.
Middle Georgia State?
No…
I'm debating between Eastern Michigan University and Delaware State University, do you have any recommendations, or pros/cons for them?
Well.... EMU looks good.
@@jcghim I made my mind on northwestern michigan college. I'm gonna finish my gen Ed's next semester as well as my ppl and transfer them over and finish there with a cfi or cfii rating within 2 years of going there. :)
Ok ATP flight school is an absolute scam and it sounds too good to be true simply because it is, so many people I’ve met got kicked out of the program simply because they fell behind schedule and they want to advertise their lightning fast pace
seems like the mottos you have used (coming up, keep the blue side up) are taken from another youtuber, "74 Gear, Pilot Kelsey". hope, you have taken his permission. ultimately, these are intellectual property and that brings another can of worms which is copyrights infringement. just wanted to give you ideas that you might have face to deal... good luck with your flight career.
yeah you need a degree to get a job.