References To Fallout 1 And Fallout 2 In Fallout New Vegas
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- Collection Of References To Fallout 1 and Fallout 2 In Fallout New Vegas
Timestamps:
Intro 0:00
The Master & Unity 0:07
Master's Army 1:18
Lou-Tenant 1:29
Lilly & The Master 2:21
Junktown Jerky Vendor 2:40
Jas Wilkins & Aunt Rose 3:05
Daisy Whitman's Vertibird 3:57
Arch Dornan 4:41
Chrysalis Highwayman 5:55
Mr.Bishop & The Shark Club 6:12
Mordinos & Wrights 6:48
Marcus 7:16
Doctor Henry 8:07
President Richardson 8:32
Chief Elise 9:12
Klamath Bob 9:36
NCR Quiz 9:58
Enclave Oil Rig 11:10
John Cassidy 11:38 - เกม
I love that Michael Dorn (Worf from Star Trek) voices the super mutant Marcus in both Fallout 2 AND New Vegas, 12 years apart. Such a distinctive voice.
I _thought_ he sounded familiar! I suppose today *is* a good day to die!
He also voiced Frank Horrigan in FO2!
Too bad I hear that it's canon that Marcus dies in New Vegas from Cazador attacks.
I really hope they bring him back in some way in the next fallout game, hopefully Bethesda doesn’t do us dirty like they did with Harold
Same with Ron Perlman who's the narrator in almost every Fallout game, starting with the first back in 1997, and the latest being Fallout 76 in 2018.
Bruce Isaac (the singer) also mentions that "Mr Bishop isn't like the other bosses, he likes to scour the wasteland". This is a reference to male players in FO2 being able to seduce, bang, and impregnate John Bishop's wife. If this happens, you'll get an ending slide explaining how the Bishop's had a son who was "nothing like his father and enjoyed wandering the wastes". This means that the Mr Bishop being referenced in New Vegas is actually the biological son of the Chosen One from FO2 and the great grandson of the original Vault Dweller from FO1
It says the same thing if you do his daughter just a little bit different in the ending of fallout 2
isnt there a way for female chosen one to also have a bishop successor?
@@kobold7466 Idk actually. I've only ever seen the ending slides for a male character
@@kobold7466 No because that's not how that works
@@TheMasterUnity proof?
Cesaer will also talk about Tandi, he has a lot of good things to say about her and her leadership, another fun detail is that Tandi is on the NCR $100 bill
Ceasar mocks her reign as nothing more then a queen?
@@UnholyWrath3277 he was being facetious
He critisises her for being so long in charge
@@niklassororitas like Ed has any right to give shit
@@UnholyWrath3277 He mocked it being considered a Democracy instead of a Monarchy, but had the highest respect for Tandi herself.
3:05 Killing the Deathclaw by shooting it in the eye is another reference.
In Fallout 1 when you meet Harold you can ask him about the Deathclaws. He mentions that they can hypnotyze their victims by just looking at them, so he suggests shooting them in the eyes :)
Which is reference to original fallouts targeting system (vats predecessor) where people would aim for the eyes because of crits
In Fallout 1 I several bursts of my auto-shotgun i the eyes of the deathclaw-mother. Was by far the hardest fight in the game.
@@molodoy..And the extremely OP Red Rider BB Gun!
@@walterbar3118 Mother deathclaw was nothing compared to fighting Shank and Decker in the hub lol
Marcus is probably one of my favorite recurring characters in fallout sure he hasn't been seen since new Vegas but I still believe he's out there somewhere
A super soldier Who wants To put The world back together.
He is cool.
@@brok56 he's more than cool he's based
@@samsarex4318 making friends with a techno zealot after fist fighting him for hours, and than becomes The mayor of two towns.
Yep, that is based.
@@samsarex4318 based? yeah based on you having no bitches
@@KutthroatBG shut up cringe and BOS pilled max pfp
Songs the lonesome drifter can sing in the Tops casino reference F1&2 as well - "Streets of New Reno" instead of Streets of Laredo, for example, or "Home on the Wastes" mentioning "the master's great armies".
This comment here needs a pin
and all the songs were written and recorded by Josh Sawyer who was the Todd Howard for Obsidian back then.
@@sevend2 Correct, and he has a great voice for it. I wouldn't call that a Fallout 1 or 2 reference though.
@@sontypohnenamen5161 its not i was just piggybacking off your comment to add another fun fact
@@sevend2 Aaah, gotcha.
To add on to the Wrecked Highwayman, the items in the trunk also callback to Fo2 as the car was powered with energy weapon ammunition you would always keep some in the trunk in case you ran out of fuel in the middle of the desert
It was originally supposed to have the dirty armored vault 13 suit and canteen.
But of course, it's one of the things they cut from the final release. And instead added it as The Classic Pack DLC.
It would've been so mind blowing to find it as an easter egg
No-bark Noonan is The Chosen One from Fallout 2.
@@TheMetalAllfather the Chosen Ones fate is covered in the fallout 2 endings, he becomes to Eldar of New Arroyo.
@@TheMetalAllfather Nope. Joshua Sawyer says otherwise.
@@TheMetalAllfather one of the ending slides for fallout 2 says the chosen one became the elder of arroyo and lived there until they died.
Fun little theory: The crashed highwayman vehicle and the radscorpions close by led some to believe that No Bark Noonan, the crazy guy from Novac may actually be the Chosen One ( the protagonist from Fallout 2 ), given how apparently he went crazy after suffering multiple radscorpion stings to his skull. Basically, the theory goes that he crashed the Highwayman and while wounded from the crash, was attacked and stung by radscorpions, and was probably treated by Novac doctors. Also, the presence of That Gun in the shop.
Yeah but I believe the highway man was there because the singer who fled new reno stole it when he fled
@@mankulon790 idk it looks like it's been there for decades though. But of course, the devs probably wouldn't have made a completely new model just for that I suppose.
Fallout 2 ending says the Chosen one became the Eldar of New Arroyo so we know his fate.
Joshua Sawyer, Lead Designer and Project Director, mentioned himself that the theory is just that, a theory. Unless Bethesda decides to retcon something, Joshua's word regarding New Vegas lore is basically law.
You mean Chad Nobark
You missed "That Gun", which can be bought at the Dinosaur in Novac. It's a .223 pistol referenced by players as "That Gun" in Fallout 1 and 2.
which in itself is a reference to the gun Decard uses in Bladerunner
No need to buy it you can find it in the storage room of the dinosaur
Me and my brother haven't played fallout in years but this exact gun came up in conversation today, that gun stays with you
@@circeowaggles I finished fallout 1 not too long ago and im about 40 hours into fallout 2 (still havent even got the geck, im doing pretty much all sidequests i can) and i can confirm the .223 is a damn BEAST in both the games
@@circeowagglesthat gun is possibly the lamest unique idk y it would stick with you
One easter egg from New Vegas is Chet, the owner and merchant of goodsprings general store. His name is a reference to the original debug tool from fallout 2
See instead of a normal item to debug with during the creation of the game, interplay devs simply had an npc they could spawn in that had the ability to change your characters reputations on the spot. He was referred to as a shady salesman. This npc was named chet! And when they made new vegas. They thought a great name for the very first vendor you meet in the game would be chet.
he may be possibly the same chet from fallout 2
Cool, hence why nobody likes Chet in new vegas either lmao. I know he's there the teach bartering but damm chet is a jerk
@@MsHarpsychord accidently stole something from him which wasnt even expensive and he started blasting.
Chet's retired his shady salesman ways and is living a cozy life in goodsprings, that is, until he is needed once again to protect the town from the vicious powder gangers.
I don't hate the Bethesda Fallouts, but I definitely think they didn't understand Fallout. Their games feel like they take place in a different world than the one of Fallout 1/2/NV
I would compare Bethesda Fallouts to the Disney Star Wars trilogy. They're not well written, retcon lore that don't need to be retcon, rehash things from past entries but make it worse, etc. But they're short of enjoyable.
Yeah I totally agree. I still enjoy 4 since I kinda made peace with it a few years ago when I started to appreciate the things it did on its own but woof. It's got the depth of a puddle compared to all the endlessly fascinating lore the older games had. FONV is such an honest and accurate continuation of the series.
Bethesda clearly doesnt care about Fallout universe. They are in it only for the money it brings. They wanna do their own thing. Thats why their Fallout games insistently take place in east coast, far away from original titles. Yet they are so lazy they put super mutants in Boston lmao
@@thelonesomedrifter58843 is pretty well written. i wouldnt even say 4 is bad, i just think it doesnt have that same feeling and i think the concept of the story is decent but it doesn’t do what they intended because of the characters and the lore. it’s different and i like tgat but it seems to focus a lot more on gameplay aspects rather than story and the world they created.
I agree fo 1 and 2 seemed much darker and this 50s style asthetics seems made up if u play fallout brotherhood of steel you can see vehicle like humvee and m4 rifles and even tanks that were built wua after 50s the original concept wasnt that they were in 50 asthetics it's just that at time game was released this was futuristic and we didn't had smart phones so pipboy they just changed narrative a bit
In the end of the Lonesome Road DLC, when you're finally confronting Ulysses face to face in his temple, one of the dialogue options will have him comparing you both. How while he walked the East, you walked the West in places such as Circle Junction, Reno, Vault City and Fort Aradesh (named after Aradesh, founder of Shady Sands and father of Tandi. Nowadays, the fort is known as Fort Abandon).
I love this. Often miss the feel and story of the originals, and seeing all the callbacks is truly cathartic. Old fallout fans need the love.
Also worth noting that Mr. Bishop mentioned there may well be descended from the Chosen One
The Mr. Bishop being referred to in Bruce Isaac's dialogue isn't John, but the Bishop Child that is born if the Chosen One sleeps with Angela.
Im coming here real late so idk if you will see this, but you can actually have the Bishop child with the boss' lady or her daughter for that ending.
@@jachymfoj yep exactly
Ouch....Bishop got cucked.
If we choose "wild wasteland" and passes near a well on the way to New Vegas with Rex as a companion, an event linked to a Modoc mission in Fallout 2 will trigger (Jonny's disappearance).
You can also talk to Rex and ask him what’s that a boys lost in a well? And it will mark it on your map
Glad to see people still making fallout new Vegas videos
This video was released just in time to capitalize on the "New Vegas 2" rumors emitting from Microsoft after their acquisition of Zenimax.
My hope is we get a "Fallout: New Reno", a non-direct sequel to the west coast storyline.
I just want the stories of 1 and 2 remade and then see potential sequels
Let's just hope for a non-Bethesda Fallout, I'm just sick of playing as a Vault dweller looking for a relative at this point
That or maybe a fallout florida or fallout texas. Seeing as they are new places
@@MimonJesus67 I'm sick of Beth at this point. I just want a proper fallout like we got with New Vegas and just mess around with the story and not taking anything serious.
Then doing another play through and being a hardcore faction shill and killing all opposing factions in sight for the sake of roleplay.
@@MimonJesus67 Would love to see a Fallout game that takes the majority of the concepts from the Van Buren project.
we need a remake of Fallout 1 & 2 , would be nice develop by Obsidian again~😍
Should be a joint development of Obsidian and InXile now that Microsoft owns both.
Trix are for kids
We hope so
New Obsidian is trash though
@Mensch gebliebener Sterbehelfer67 inexile isn't and they are the OG fallout devs.
There was a mass turn over between 1 and 2 and Obsidian even at its peak mostly had members of the fallout 2 team
Sometimes the theme from Fallout 1 will play at times.
The theme I’m talking about only mostly occurs while exploring.
most of the times I heard it when was walking around freeside
A lot of F1 and F2's OST makes up FNV
@@ZeFluffyKnight
I really liked the theme in the Cathedral in F1.
Fucking eerie ass music.
In Fallout 2 if you give John chems he will die, as he is allergic to them. If you are on chems in Fallout NV, Cass will... well lets just say "mad" is an understatement
One thing that sucks about having cass on your team is that she hates negative karma and hates you using chems.
Sometimes youre better off handing her better gear so she can deal a ton of damage for you in fights since it's almost impossible to deal with some enemies unless youre high af on turbo and psycho
@@daoyang223 She doesn't leave you if you do chems. She only leaves you if you have negative karma. She only vocally reams you for doing them.
given that you can get lily as a companion, i wish there were some kind of special dialogue exchange between lily and daisy about the vertibird
that vertibird detail is insane
This is why Fallout New Vegas is so beloved, because of the OG Fallout references, returning Characters and the children / relatives of the characters of the originals.
Fallout 3 and 4 never had this much worldbuilding details.
I wonder what ever happened to Sulik after Fallout 2
Dude was a damm beast w a super sledge
Yeah, his sister got cut from FO2. I know she was supposed to be the Blackfoot leader and a companion in the cancelled Fallout 3 (Van Buren). It would have been another of these big oof moments to play to different characters in two different Fallout games, running around with one of the siblings, which look for but never find each other.
In the Aunt Rose part, Jas Wilkins also mentioned that someone "shot her deathclaw in the eye". That's a reference to the VATS combat in FO1 and 2 where the best way to kill something up close was to aim for the eyes.
If you smoke jet or any other drugs around Cass she gets mad at you when you talk to her about anything, cause her father used to be an addict and she hates the smell
I know the video isn't about them, but I have always loved the posters in Fallout NV. Whoever did them, did a really great job.
I’d like a first person RPG for the original two games like Fallout 3, 4 and NV.
The map will be too big and they would have to cut a lot of things out.
Fallout 1 & 2 are huge maps to put into an open world game. Fallout 1 is LA to almost SF vertically & Fallout 2 is just south of SF to the almost the top of California vertically (Mariposa Military Base is in both games as in F1 it's the top left of the map but F2 it's the bottom left. Fallout 2 goes into Nevada horizontally. Not sure about Fallout 1. That's a huge map for each with nothing in between map destinations but some random encounters
I think Fallout 4: Project Arroyo is exactly what you're looking for. It's not finished though
You are missed the fact, what Mr Bishop is the son of Chosen one. Bruce Isaac says, what Mr Bishop is not like everyone else from his family, he likes spend his time in a wastelands.
Why is the ncr xenophobic twords super mutants in New vegas but they had super mutants in the ncr rangers ranks in fallout 2, sounds like they should earn citizenship and I can understand the generation 1 super mutants might be tired of fighting but it seems if you can make it look good for the gen 1 super mutants with citizenship gen 2 would love to fill your ranks
I suppose it was because during Fallout 2 mutants were more common and more widely accepted, but at the time of new vegas they are more scattered, as they have been pushed out of Califonia to Nevada, so super mutants are a rare sight in the NCR by the time of new vegas and therefore face a lot more dicrimination in prim and proper NCR communities.
@@thementalitydisturbedcolli7430 this, that happens in real life too, big communities don't get discrimination but if there are few of them some people will look at them as insects, its just happens
Marcus mentioned that it was uncomfortable at the best of times, so he and the Master mutants moved east.
The same reason black people fought in WW2 and Vietnam but still faced racism back home.
@@TheMasterUnity Ironically they behave the same as super mutants earning their reputation
Hey this is a fantastic restoration mod you are using that doesn’t feel too busy. Makes the faces cleaner and softer. Would you mind linking me what you used?
Ah yes. Something fun to listen to while I cleanse the commonwealth
There's also an NPC in the Freeside (I think it was the King) which says that he worked as a butcher, but got out of business because of a weirdo selling strange meat for much cheaper, then said people started getting shakes, after that, the weirdo died, and in the basement everyone saw there were human corpses everywhere.
@@redemiist9773 Yes, It was rather him. I remembered wrong
I'm so glad people know the remnants are from fallout 2 and not 3
Smitty plasma canister from GRA, named after smitty who will upgrade your plasma canister from FALLOUT 1
I know i'm very late but i absolutely love how your new vegas looks, its so much brighter and looks a lot smoother
Thank you for these videos. I wish I could give you a tip, Production is amazing. =D
Wonderful video
Great work
Little known detail, the name Fallout: New Vegas is a reference to every previous Fallout game.
How?
@@redstonegaming7969 8 shaared characters in the same place. Its a very niche easter egg.
@@redstonegaming7969 read the first word of the title :V
@@pain3236 I have no clue what you're talking about
@@unnanointedonesufi Fallout: New Vegas contains the word Fallout, this is a nice easter egg because Fallout 1 and 2 also contains the word Fallout.
That is literally Pains point.
Oh wow I’m early! I love your videos, and I look forward to agh and every single one!!! :) One of the best FNV content creators!
Whatever lighting or graphics mod you're using that thumbnail looked so clean
Literally what I thought too. Honors the faces of characters. Would like to know which mod it is
@@captainstrangiato961 bro pls😢
me too
im playing fallout 2 right now
thanks to this amazing video
all the faces on the NCR money are characters from 1 and 2 as well. Aradesh, Tandi, and Seth
Mariposa in Spanish means butterfly.
I always wondered if they named it that way on purpose. I never thought about it until years later. Great video!
Arroyo was named after the spanish word for a dry creek bed, so it wouldn't surprise me
Come fly with me. It is minor,but the nightkin leader in the repcomm basement mentions he was a captain in the masters army.
All the super mutants, even the good ones, look back on their time in the masters army with pride. I think thats interesting, they liked being a part of something greater than themselves
The fact that Cannibal Johnson was there during probably the most quoted scene in fallout 2 is hilarious. Seeing the player (chosen one) get chewed out for not being in uniform by the drill Sargent would have been hilarious.
In the scene of the Fallout tv show, in the parking lot of the Vault Tech when Coop drops his wife off at work, I remember seeing a Highwayman car in the background
It's good to see the junk town jerkey vender mentioned. That book made me smile, at least after finding the fallout 1 quest. Used to ask my freinds, "do you know the secret of the junk town jerkey vender?"
The master is easily one of the scariest villains in Fallout. Love the series. I've been playing even since the Fallout 1 demo from an old Jazz Jackrabbit CD.
The Master is one of the most compelling villains in fiction period. He encapsulates how grotesque, sad, and bleak Sci Fi can get. It's some shit Harlan Ellison would think of.
The Plasma Caster and Plasma Defender are modeled after the original Plasma Rifle and Plasma Pistol designs apparently
Your New Vegas looks amazing
I myself got to get a reference of Markus in Jacob's town both him inside the game (he was from fallout 2) and also the reference of the chosen one in the dialogue.
Do you have a list of the mods you use? your game looks much nicer than mine and I already use a bunch of mods to improve the look of the game.
I absolutely love that they reused some of the music from the old games.
And reference within reference 3:36 is definitely referencing Butch telling you to aim for the eyes when fighting the Deathclaw.
the smitty special is a reference to smitty who upgrades your plasma rifle
how did you get the textures so nice? the resolution also looks improved. it this some mod?
Good job
@10:30 tandi was in fallout one as well, a young woman in shady sands
kind weird that they reference the protagonists of f1 and f2 as ''a wanderer'' and ''a private'' like aren't these two kind legendary?
I'm not saying it's intentional but the default answer would be they are only legendary by word of mouth, so inconsistencies are the fault of the one retelling it
Nobody really knows the full story of either character. Unless you were one of the people who followed them throughout the story, it wouldn't be immediately obvious that any of the events in their lives were connected. Marcus and John Cassidy would probably be the only two who know the Chosen One the most, but all of the Vault Dweller's companions died in the attack on the Cathedral.
Yeah they even made an entire statue dedicated for the Vault Dweller. Then again 100 years is long enough to make them forgotten even by the elders.
Johnson has no way of knowing that the guy being lectured by Dornan was the Chosen One, in a normal playthrough you most likely will grab the Vertibird plans and FOB and the you are done with the place. My bet is most of the Chosen One's deeds are mostly forgotten or were never known in the first place, outside of things like blowing up the Oil Rig since a lot of people in Chicago saw the Tanker leave port and the flash from the explosion afterwards
@@gastonoviedo8179 you mean a porn star comes to your house, kill the family's cow and then brings down one of the biggest factions around and you're still calling him ''a stranger''
Marcus is the only super mutant that is handsome looking and one of the super mutants that retained his intelligence
About half of them retained their inteligence, some even got smarter... you actually meet more smart than dumb mutants in 1 and 2. Nightkin got crazy later but many of them are quite inteligent.
Just beat fallout 1 and am playing fallout 2 right now. Fitting video
Great video. Also are you using any mods? Its looks very clean.
There's super small mentions of western regions in other fallout games but nothing really note worthy other than brotherhood of steel movements that we already know about. I wish they would mention the antagonist but I kinda like the mystery of what happened to the characters you play as
It is cool how Enclave at the point of F2 could provide Power Armors to even privates.
Harold the old ghoul with the tree growing out of his skull is from both the fallout 1 and 2 games he is found in fallout 3 when he finally becomes a tree that is a big part of the fallout series
also I can't really understand how Harold came road almost as far as Kellogg did
The markus one blew my mind honestly
I'm pretty sure Follower of the Apocalypse have some reference to F1. In itself they are reference to F1.
AND they managed to add this stuff with their massive time constraints
Fallout New Vegas is great for so many reasons and it seems like they successfully merged new ideas with old ideas for an incredible continuation and expansion of the already immersive world of Fallout. Now both new fans and old may enjoy it equally.
Idk if anyone notice this but if you use any chems exception of Stimpack near Cass, she will tell the courier that she hate that since her father having weak heart condition.
I'd also add the number of returning weapons that aren't in any of the Bethesda games, and weapon variants that are just "Laser Rifle but the one from Fallout 1&2", so on and so forth.
Man, super mutant in existence is a reference to Fallout 1 & 2
Your NV looks so good. What mods are you running?
also there was that dead guy somewhere in the caves (cant remember wich one exactly) of the Divide, with the leather on body mentioning city of Hubb and ex wife of the guy who cheated him with some trader
Such a good song
hey bro what is the background son in your video? Thanks!
What mod are you using that makes New Vegas look like that?
Your game looks so amazing what mods are you using? Great video btw
do you know the enb he uses
Based on the hint from Daisy Whitman in Novac you can assume she was Enclave. I'm gonna guess she's one of the Enclave members you meet with Arcade later. I never did that mission.
The Doc Henry in Jacobstown is an Enclave Remnant in hiding, and is unrelated to the Dr. Henry in Fallout 2’s events
What visual filters is he using in this game? it looks beautiful!
That Gun is a reference to the .223 pistol in fallout and fallout 2, according to the wiki
Love that the cannonish ending for FO2 has the Wrights as the remaining leading original family in New Reno. Pretty much every playthrough in FO2 I'd end up absolutely cleansing New Reno of the other 3 families and leaving the Wrights intact, since they were pretty reasonable people. Usually start with Sal, Mordino, then Bishop, after sleeping with his daughter and wife ofc
what mods are used in this footage? Looks nice
its also implied that no-bark noonan in novac *is* the chosen one from fallout 2
The OG Super Mutants were so cool
I also love in Fallout 3 on a terminal in the citadel they mention the Vault Dweller meeting the brotherhood of steel. Love callbacks to Fallout 1 and 2 in the newer games
I kinda wonder why no ones made any videos of classic fallout references in Fallout 3...I mean other than Harold and The Enclave. I cant think of any other callbacks
What is your ENB, dude?
What visual mods are you using for New Vegas?
Daisy is so badass, verbally reminiscing about the good old days at the same time as sipping her drink.
Looks nice. What are these graphic mods
Losing your wife and unborn child is hard, I know.
But just think about watching your god die, your creator, a beings whos voice you could hear over every distance. Gone.
what character model mod were you using in this?
it's interesting where the NCR sprung up, compared to how that state is today...
This was fallout 3 for me. New Vegas was the perfect send off for the Fallout franchise.
What mods do you use to make your game look like this?
Thanks to this video, now I have more knowledge about Enclave and events that occured about it. I am going to use it in my Enclave soldier rp in New Vegas. For example I will kill Marcus