Hi there. The NXN8 will sound brighter compared to the KSM8. That being said, if you're really close/on top of the mic, the low end boost cause by proximity to the mic will be controlled more with the KSM8.
Any comment regarding the Nexadyne 8S especially for female vocals? I understand it works well for live session, what about home studio recording? Last question if I may ;-) compared to the 87A, is it better or worst for studio recording?
If vocals are tracked independently in a studio then a condenser mic is the common go-to. Live: if your vocalist fits well on an Se V7 then she'll do well on a Nexadyne without much fuss; on the other hand, if she has a voice with quite a bit of natural presence, you can still tame it at the desk.
Hi, Yuri here. It's hard to directly compare since the NXN8 is a dynamic mic and the KSM9 is a condenser mic. Depending on how you gig, you might see some feedback when using a condenser mic like the KSM9 (for example with a lot of wedges and side fills) that you would minimize by the NXN8. However the KSM9 has a wider frequency response as well and it has a switch to select it to be either supercardioid or cardioid. So your mic choice should really depend on what you need for your voice and what you're trying to achieve live.
Hey, Yuri here! The mic you're using now is a condenser mic with selectable patterns. While the KSM8 and NXN8 are both dynamic mics, the NXN8 would be my choice for your needs since it sounds surprisingly similar to a condenser mic but has all of the advantages of dynamic on stage! Also, if you're playing a lot of loud rock music - the NXN8 will provide better rejection compared to the KSM8. Your current mic also has a selectable polar pattern, while with the NXN8 you'll have to choose either cardioid or supercardioid. If you're interested in sticking with a condenser microphone with selectable cardioid or supercardioid patterns, check out the Shure KSM9!
Im in the market for a new dynamic vocal mic. I currently have a choice of a Beta 57 and a Beyer dynamic v70 - I much prefer the v70 (I do liek the air it has), however this is the one that needs replacing, and its not great with handling noise hence looking for something else. Im considering the Senny MD431, the KSM8 and the NXN8. Nowhere I can find any to try - let along more than one to compare.
Hi, Yuri here. I can't speak to the Beyer or the Sennheiser mics you mentioned, but I will say that the KSM8 has our famous pneumatic shock mount, and the NXN8 has a brand new acoustic/electric handling noise reduction system - which are both proprietary to Shure. The pneumatic shock mount is still the best in class shock absorption, and we also have it in the SM58 and the Beta 58A (The Beta 57 you mentioned has a different type of shock mount).
Hi there! This comes down to a few things. What is the main application? If spoken word, I would recommend the KSM8. If you're looking for a microphone that performs well on spoken word, vocals and instruments, the Nexadyne may give you more options.
From your description the Nexadyne sounds better than the KSM8, which doesn‘t make much sense to me. The question is: If you had to bring mics to a jib without knowing the vocalists, which one would you bring (not considering the price)?
Hi, Yuri here! I wouldn't say one sounds "better" - but they solve different problems. The Nexadyne will definitely be brighter and cut through the mix more than the KSM8, which has a very rich, neutral sound. However, the KSM8 has a more open cardioid pattern - so if someone moves around the mic a lot, the KSM8 will be more forgiving of that than Nexadyne will. The Nexadyne also has a supercardioid option which helps in environment where feedback needs to be minimized.
@ Yes, that‘s what I thought, thanks for the answer. But my question was more in the lines of which of them is „the next SM58“. I have like ten Beta58, as they are what I put on the mic stands if nobody asks for some specialty. I like them, they sound fine and they are reliable. Never had any complaints. It‘s not happening soon, but what if I were to replace them? What would you consider more of the golden standard, working for most vocalists?
@@jensdroessler3575 Yuri again. I would say the NXN8 is the "next step" in SM58, Beta58A story. While the KSM8 is actually my favorite vocal mic we make, it is a little more specialized - and the NXN is probably more useful in generalized situations. I don't think of the NXN8 is a replacement for the SM or Beta, but a premium addition to the line that gives you some more clarity and great, consistent rejection.
I just reviewed your polar charts for the KSM8 and am confused, Benefit number 3: linear polar response is not what is depicted. There are significant frequency dependent off axis variations: 9kHz @ 60 degrees, 2.5kHz @ 90 degrees, 6.4kHz @ 30, 60, & 90 degrees. It doesn’t appear significantly better than the Nexadyne performance. It does have a flatter frequency response up to 10 kHz so should sound more natural with less EQ required. Might be better for vocal recording but does lack air frequencies.
Hi, Yuri here. Thanks so much for the response. When we say linear off-axis response, what's happening is that when unwanted sound enters off-axis, it often affects the phase coherency and as a result, the quality of the direct sound. The design of the KSM8 mitigates that quite a bit, so when unwanted sound comes in off-axis, it stays more phase coherent and the source sound remains high quality, even in the presence of off-axis bleed. The NXN8 actually has a pretty linear off-axis polar response as well, but it also has great off-axis rejection.
@@shurecreators Thanks Yuri for the clarification! So If I understand, with improved phase coherence there is less constructive/destructive interference from off axis sound so the direct capture is less impacted? I like the KSM8 but may have to get a KXN8 to try out. Certainly the polar pattern looks exceptional!
KSM8 = Plosives and severe handling noise and rapper-grip problem and don't ever use on a podium. NXN8 seems to be addressing this and at a lower cost. and yes the Beta 87 is a better all-around mic than the KSM8.
They made KSM8 not so long ago, and here are two more Neaxadyne 8 s c. They sped up, but are they good products? Space technology in Nexadyne, but in work, the microphones are weak, they couple, they have little power. For such a modern product for $400, they are not worth the money. Ksm8 does not make an impression either. Beta 87 definitely wins with them.
Which of the two mics would you consider the brightest? I have a very deep voice and would like to balance it out a bit with the mic response.
Hi there. The NXN8 will sound brighter compared to the KSM8. That being said, if you're really close/on top of the mic, the low end boost cause by proximity to the mic will be controlled more with the KSM8.
Any comment regarding the Nexadyne 8S especially for female vocals? I understand it works well for live session, what about home studio recording? Last question if I may ;-) compared to the 87A, is it better or worst for studio recording?
If vocals are tracked independently in a studio then a condenser mic is the common go-to.
Live: if your vocalist fits well on an Se V7 then she'll do well on a Nexadyne without much fuss; on the other hand, if she has a voice with quite a bit of natural presence, you can still tame it at the desk.
Any thoughts about Nexadyne vs KSM9? I currently gig with the KSM8 and wanted to add the KSM9 but this dropped
Hi, Yuri here. It's hard to directly compare since the NXN8 is a dynamic mic and the KSM9 is a condenser mic. Depending on how you gig, you might see some feedback when using a condenser mic like the KSM9 (for example with a lot of wedges and side fills) that you would minimize by the NXN8. However the KSM9 has a wider frequency response as well and it has a switch to select it to be either supercardioid or cardioid. So your mic choice should really depend on what you need for your voice and what you're trying to achieve live.
I am a classical tenor but I also sing rock songs. Which one should I go for? (Currently performing with a Sennheise E965).
Hey, Yuri here! The mic you're using now is a condenser mic with selectable patterns. While the KSM8 and NXN8 are both dynamic mics, the NXN8 would be my choice for your needs since it sounds surprisingly similar to a condenser mic but has all of the advantages of dynamic on stage! Also, if you're playing a lot of loud rock music - the NXN8 will provide better rejection compared to the KSM8. Your current mic also has a selectable polar pattern, while with the NXN8 you'll have to choose either cardioid or supercardioid. If you're interested in sticking with a condenser microphone with selectable cardioid or supercardioid patterns, check out the Shure KSM9!
Im in the market for a new dynamic vocal mic. I currently have a choice of a Beta 57 and a Beyer dynamic v70 - I much prefer the v70 (I do liek the air it has), however this is the one that needs replacing, and its not great with handling noise hence looking for something else. Im considering the Senny MD431, the KSM8 and the NXN8. Nowhere I can find any to try - let along more than one to compare.
Hi, Yuri here. I can't speak to the Beyer or the Sennheiser mics you mentioned, but I will say that the KSM8 has our famous pneumatic shock mount, and the NXN8 has a brand new acoustic/electric handling noise reduction system - which are both proprietary to Shure. The pneumatic shock mount is still the best in class shock absorption, and we also have it in the SM58 and the Beta 58A (The Beta 57 you mentioned has a different type of shock mount).
Which is better, the shure ksm8 or the shure nexadyne 8/c in church venues?
Hi there! This comes down to a few things. What is the main application? If spoken word, I would recommend the KSM8. If you're looking for a microphone that performs well on spoken word, vocals and instruments, the Nexadyne may give you more options.
From your description the Nexadyne sounds better than the KSM8, which doesn‘t make much sense to me. The question is: If you had to bring mics to a jib without knowing the vocalists, which one would you bring (not considering the price)?
Hi, Yuri here! I wouldn't say one sounds "better" - but they solve different problems. The Nexadyne will definitely be brighter and cut through the mix more than the KSM8, which has a very rich, neutral sound. However, the KSM8 has a more open cardioid pattern - so if someone moves around the mic a lot, the KSM8 will be more forgiving of that than Nexadyne will. The Nexadyne also has a supercardioid option which helps in environment where feedback needs to be minimized.
@ Yes, that‘s what I thought, thanks for the answer. But my question was more in the lines of which of them is „the next SM58“. I have like ten Beta58, as they are what I put on the mic stands if nobody asks for some specialty. I like them, they sound fine and they are reliable. Never had any complaints. It‘s not happening soon, but what if I were to replace them? What would you consider more of the golden standard, working for most vocalists?
@@jensdroessler3575 Yuri again. I would say the NXN8 is the "next step" in SM58, Beta58A story. While the KSM8 is actually my favorite vocal mic we make, it is a little more specialized - and the NXN is probably more useful in generalized situations. I don't think of the NXN8 is a replacement for the SM or Beta, but a premium addition to the line that gives you some more clarity and great, consistent rejection.
@ Ah, very well then.
I just reviewed your polar charts for the KSM8 and am confused, Benefit number 3: linear polar response is not what is depicted. There are significant frequency dependent off axis variations: 9kHz @ 60 degrees, 2.5kHz @ 90 degrees, 6.4kHz @ 30, 60, & 90 degrees. It doesn’t appear significantly better than the Nexadyne performance. It does have a flatter frequency response up to 10 kHz so should sound more natural with less EQ required. Might be better for vocal recording but does lack air frequencies.
Hi, Yuri here. Thanks so much for the response. When we say linear off-axis response, what's happening is that when unwanted sound enters off-axis, it often affects the phase coherency and as a result, the quality of the direct sound. The design of the KSM8 mitigates that quite a bit, so when unwanted sound comes in off-axis, it stays more phase coherent and the source sound remains high quality, even in the presence of off-axis bleed.
The NXN8 actually has a pretty linear off-axis polar response as well, but it also has great off-axis rejection.
@@shurecreators Thanks Yuri for the clarification! So If I understand, with improved phase coherence there is less constructive/destructive interference from off axis sound so the direct capture is less impacted? I like the KSM8 but may have to get a KXN8 to try out. Certainly the polar pattern looks exceptional!
KSM8 = Plosives and severe handling noise and rapper-grip problem and don't ever use on a podium. NXN8 seems to be addressing this and at a lower cost. and yes the Beta 87 is a better all-around mic than the KSM8.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the KSM8, I'll be sure to address these concerns in future videos!
Yuri here! I love the KSM8, but if you're working with a lot of rappers - I'd recommend giving the KSM11 a spin!
They made KSM8 not so long ago, and here are two more Neaxadyne 8 s c. They sped up, but are they good products? Space technology in Nexadyne, but in work, the microphones are weak, they couple, they have little power. For such a modern product for $400, they are not worth the money. Ksm8 does not make an impression either. Beta 87 definitely wins with them.