Great Vid! &... I'm new but I'm following the and digging the E3+12 idea.. I've been crunching numbers and Light/Dark Heros for "actual" team building is quite a bit out of my pocket range. So the +12 idea would make (even for a bit) the game still fun end game for those like myself.
Man its fun watching these vids just seeing people do what i cant (not having insane money) im just a newbie at lvl 73 so i like to watch these you’ve really helped me figure out which characters are good so thanks :)
You basically described the enable system with your idea. IF future enables boost passives. Also, new heroes will still be "strongest", but now they would be whale terretory only, as low spender would use even longer to get the copies needed, or just focus on their (now) tier 1.5 unit.
i dont like the idea for one reason: this game is already slow enough for f2p/light spenders. the speed at which you're making progress is so damn slow, if you were to add another power creep it would just widen the gap between f2p and whales even more.
That actually seems extremely helpful like that would break some metas and maybe they could even work in a new event for these heroes earning them more money but also ppl will return and play more
Bad idea sorry. Zeals talk about it. Megalodons come to event with zero scrolls. And then make two of aida. They dont care. We need something more complicated fusion
Damn your idea is actually good Wrath... Btw how is Xia doing in pvp which arti do you run? I'm still debating if i should exchange her for Valentino :/...especially since i got a KB in my team.
Nice idea but it would become more pay2win, because for the hardcore pay2win guys its not as important if they spend more money to get for example the AidaE3+12..and then they got an ultimate +12 heroe while f2play player maybe get 2 copies of aida :D and even people like u have no chance to come alonge with these hardcore pay2win guys.
I noticed you mentioned getting heroic summon scrolls from the aspen dungeon merchant. Can you make a video on things to buy from the Aspen dungeon merchants and things to avoid? Or if you already made a video like that can someone please tell me cause I can't find it.
Love the content wrath, i just realisezed in this video and while being somehwat drunk that you are right (I am not you) its very easy to critizise in a game like this, extreamly easy, but there is none who makes super entertaining content for this game allmost every day like you do :) may not be optional, but for an idle player who have played the game since launch its something positive to look forward to every time i have my morning coffie at work :) keep it up, youre a great guy !
Would it be better to run 2 5 star skeeri, 7 star Vesa, 7 star Lutz, 7 star HW, and 5 star Horus, or 6 star skeeri, 7 star Vesa, 7 star Lutz, 7 star HW, 5 star Horus and a 6 star DS?
In droid hens other game Dungeon Rush they have a tab where you can put 6 other characters in each slot. So if you maxed someone out then you could max out other copies and throw them in there as well. If they did it on another game I dknt see why they wouldn't do it on their better game.
Hello wrath keep up the work and how to you get even more 5* heroes cuz i need a 7* xia and I need a valkyrie and I also Got a horus skin today! (First)
I didn't understand why did you use holy dmg stone on Sigmund.. maybe you explained it in the video, but my english is bad sometimes, can you tell me why? Nice video btw
Holy damage is extra damage....it boosts sigmunds damage, I wasnt sure how it would compare to straight attack stones tho...which is why I tested it. The whole point of swapping his stone around was just to test them out and see what worked best
I dunno if I'm on board with the +12 (or w/e number thing) because that wont change anything. Thats still just going to power creep the whales into unbeatable levels. I think they just need to take weaker heroes and give them level 4 stats that help them be viable (not optimal) but costing more. I mean having like Mirage have 4 levels of abilities vs elite heroes only have 3 levels. Now, E3 KB with 3 lvls is always always going to be better than Mirage 4 levels but it makes people build chars instead of always/only waiting for the elite heroes.
Whales are unbeatable, no matter what...that's the nature of mobile. The idea here is it allows the game to have a more flexible approach to end game for others. Instead of new heroes being the only viable option for everyone
@@WrathofGodGaming I get that but if you allow stackable copies like that for every hero out the gate, all thats going to do is build elite heroes up higher anyways. Instead of building multiple copies, people will just feed them into 1 single char. I imagine an E3+12 Mihm will be stronger than 2x E3? They will just revert 1 Mihm and feed it into the other. I think more balancing options will help rather than power creeping the already powerful.
You could meld the 2 ideas, have non elite heroes able to be taken to +8 or +12 and elite heroes only capable of +4....that way they at least get a balancing option
They should release balanced heroes but overpowered artifacts, it would balance everything under the big whales, and they just do what they ever did, cash to win :D
I’m planning on resetting my Priest Tech for the first time to invest it on Mage Tech. If I decide to reset another tech let’s say Assassin, would it still be free?
The +12 is good but one copy is too easy for pay2win so maybe the 3rd time the stars for every copy increases e.g after 3rd the copy of stars needed raises to 6* and for the 12th upgrade, it would need an 10* of that copy and every or atleast every other upgrade would increase level cap by 10 and upgrade the 2, 3 and 4th skill of the hero would be upgraded individually every time...
i think a copy + catalyst would be better balanced..the catalyst being not too hard nor too easy to obtain..pretty nice concept tho..hope them devs consider it
The only issue with this is that the game only cares about its biggest spenders. it's in the range of something like 700-1000 biggest spenders produce around 70-80% of the companies profit. People who made double Aida spent around 5,000-$6,000 USD on just chinese new year event so the game will do only what these type of spenders want. While it is messed up because im only VIP 10, but someone spends more money in just 1 event than I spent in my entire time playing so the game cares less about what I would ever suggest.
What you said basicly just makes the game more difficult and horrible for F2P players cus whales will get all the copys anyways and max it out immediately this ounly will hurt F2P and make them quit. So i do not support this idea
Holy damage ignores armour... The more you have, the more percentage your attack actually reduces the health without being reduced by armour... I don’t think it gets around damage reduce though
Because she does % based damage, and you probably have a poorly geared siggy, back when mine was 8* he could land 100m damage vs abyss broken spaces. My 9* aida doesnt even get to that
Is your warrior tech maxed? What stone and arti are you running on him....that's what will decide the damage. An e3 sigmund with no tech and bad gear would probably be out damaged by a properly geared and teched 10* baade tbh lol Heroes arent amazing just because of their name, its all about the gear choices and tech that actually make them good
@@WrathofGodGaming No my warrior tech isnt maxed, and im new to this game so, i dont have good artifacts and i have an attack attack stone on him. And thanks for the help Wrath, your a great youtuber keep up the good work!
I really like your E3+ 12 idea, and I thought that you should make an account where you play 100% free to play. It would really help people who don’t like to spend money, and creates greater challenge for you.
@@degeneratescum1855 He's also explained that he just doesn't enjoy playing F2P, and that's completely fine. He should be doing what makes him happy. He's gotten this suggestion probably hundreds of times
10:37 "That's gonna boost his little ass passive"
Great Vid! &... I'm new but I'm following the and digging the E3+12 idea.. I've been crunching numbers and Light/Dark Heros for "actual" team building is quite a bit out of my pocket range. So the +12 idea would make (even for a bit) the game still fun end game for those like myself.
Lol they did almost the same thing with shitty void enables
I'm currently building Das Moge so this will be a great show for me as to how he works at that level, thanks for the video as always
For my opinion they should do the fusion thing more complex. Allow to create hybrid units and even unique units fusing stuff together
thats a LOOOOOOOOT of code. I mean like a third of the current game code
Aida Aspen Amen-ra E5 FUSION LETS GO BOYS
Man its fun watching these vids just seeing people do what i cant (not having insane money) im just a newbie at lvl 73 so i like to watch these you’ve really helped me figure out which characters are good so thanks :)
Also if you see this whats a good way to get block for horus?
Wrath, does DHGames watch your videos? Because some of your ideas are just brilliant.
Its been a while. I miss this game. I stopped playing when the internet problem happened last month. Good to see you again wraith.
You basically described the enable system with your idea. IF future enables boost passives. Also, new heroes will still be "strongest", but now they would be whale terretory only, as low spender would use even longer to get the copies needed, or just focus on their (now) tier 1.5 unit.
i dont like the idea for one reason: this game is already slow enough for f2p/light spenders. the speed at which you're making progress is so damn slow, if you were to add another power creep it would just widen the gap between f2p and whales even more.
That actually seems extremely helpful like that would break some metas and maybe they could even work in a new event for these heroes earning them more money but also ppl will return and play more
Meanwhile I still haven't broken 18k damage yet...
Impossible
Same
8:00 your welcome
Bad idea sorry. Zeals talk about it. Megalodons come to event with zero scrolls. And then make two of aida. They dont care. We need something more complicated fusion
I like how people say gj on the video even tho the video came out 1 minute ago and it the video itself is definitely longer than 1 minute xD
I like how ur mini account in like a month will body ur main account
Thiago Mattos shows how influential money is in the game
Adam P you’re right
Damn your idea is actually good Wrath...
Btw how is Xia doing in pvp which arti do you run? I'm still debating if i should exchange her for Valentino :/...especially since i got a KB in my team.
great vid wrath! keep up the good work, and congrats the the 10*!
ur personal pic also great
The the?
Nice idea but it would become more pay2win, because for the hardcore pay2win guys its not as important if they spend more money to get for example the AidaE3+12..and then they got an ultimate +12 heroe while f2play player maybe get 2 copies of aida :D and even people like u have no chance to come alonge with these hardcore pay2win guys.
im top 10 sv503, spent hundreds and no aida :/ to me its pay2gobroke ahah
its already pay to win, wouldnt make much of a difference
if you have to chose between paying 2k for dirver license and have it in 1 week and not paying and may have it in 6 month what do you do?
Lol, oh my goodness, that intake of breath was priceless.
I noticed you mentioned getting heroic summon scrolls from the aspen dungeon merchant. Can you make a video on things to buy from the Aspen dungeon merchants and things to avoid? Or if you already made a video like that can someone please tell me cause I can't find it.
In a couple of months we challenge you to make a new completely free 2 play account on a new server
boo
The E3 plus 12 idea sounds great in my opinion and will make the game more playable and enjoyable
Nice vid and nice on the 10*
Loved your vid today
Love the content wrath, i just realisezed in this video and while being somehwat drunk that you are right (I am not you) its very easy to critizise in a game like this, extreamly easy, but there is none who makes super entertaining content for this game allmost every day like you do :) may not be optional, but for an idle player who have played the game since launch its something positive to look forward to every time i have my morning coffie at work :) keep it up, youre a great guy !
Hey, Wrath! Will you have another video up before the weekly event reset?
You should've tried the Wolf monster. It should synergyze REALLY well with xia/DasMoge, it should give better damage compared with the snake!
2:33 the name of the random player you stopped on 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Which is better to buy from the chinese event in the altar shop Amovour or Horus ? Which is better i know you have tested them both
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Really like your idea about making the heroes E3+12. Would be nice to test run that on private servers
I love it when you go “HOOOOOO”
what do u mean by mini account ?
u can play on 2 diff servers and progress will save on both ?
Yosef yes it does
should i think 7 star my OD-01?
I'm using an OD-01, 2 Mirages, and a Bleecker. Thx.
WRATH U NEED ENERGY SKILL DAMAGE STONE ON DAS MOGE I HAVE IT AND ITS BROKEN MATE o and the artifact
Would it be better to run 2 5 star skeeri, 7 star Vesa, 7 star Lutz, 7 star HW, and 5 star Horus, or 6 star skeeri, 7 star Vesa, 7 star Lutz, 7 star HW, 5 star Horus and a 6 star DS?
Question: Do you get the 3star gear for summoning aida if u summon her from shards or just when heroic scroll?
Ray Peaks both
In droid hens other game Dungeon Rush they have a tab where you can put 6 other characters in each slot. So if you maxed someone out then you could max out other copies and throw them in there as well. If they did it on another game I dknt see why they wouldn't do it on their better game.
Great idea. If only DH were listening.
Try changing out Valk with Kroos? Hmm... Valk doesn't do too much in the damage department. Kroos might add a lot with his debuff. :o
Am I the only one the e3+12 system is kind a same with e5 e 10 etc. Just instead of extras you just got more powerful skills. Am I mistaken?
Hello wrath keep up the work and how to you get even more 5* heroes cuz i need a 7* xia and I need a valkyrie and I also Got a horus skin today! (First)
You make idle heroes big 💪🏽
Killer idea!!! Have you passed this by the developer??
I didn't understand why did you use holy dmg stone on Sigmund.. maybe you explained it in the video, but my english is bad sometimes, can you tell me why? Nice video btw
Holy damage is extra damage....it boosts sigmunds damage, I wasnt sure how it would compare to straight attack stones tho...which is why I tested it. The whole point of swapping his stone around was just to test them out and see what worked best
WrathofGod Gaming So.. even if the hero doesnt have holy dmg you can run that stone and be usefull? Ty for asking me ^^
23:54 and yep the last sad looking 8 numbers he doesn't even talk about is the damage i do...
Don't you think that the best Pve team would be : Aspen, Aida, Horus, Sigmund, Heartwatcher and Valkyrie ?
I dunno if I'm on board with the +12 (or w/e number thing) because that wont change anything. Thats still just going to power creep the whales into unbeatable levels. I think they just need to take weaker heroes and give them level 4 stats that help them be viable (not optimal) but costing more. I mean having like Mirage have 4 levels of abilities vs elite heroes only have 3 levels. Now, E3 KB with 3 lvls is always always going to be better than Mirage 4 levels but it makes people build chars instead of always/only waiting for the elite heroes.
Whales are unbeatable, no matter what...that's the nature of mobile. The idea here is it allows the game to have a more flexible approach to end game for others. Instead of new heroes being the only viable option for everyone
@@WrathofGodGaming I get that but if you allow stackable copies like that for every hero out the gate, all thats going to do is build elite heroes up higher anyways. Instead of building multiple copies, people will just feed them into 1 single char. I imagine an E3+12 Mihm will be stronger than 2x E3? They will just revert 1 Mihm and feed it into the other. I think more balancing options will help rather than power creeping the already powerful.
You could meld the 2 ideas, have non elite heroes able to be taken to +8 or +12 and elite heroes only capable of +4....that way they at least get a balancing option
@@WrathofGodGaming I wouldn't mind something like that. It sure beats having 4billion copies of gusta food just sitting around.
when is there a new vid?
They should release balanced heroes but overpowered artifacts, it would balance everything under the big whales, and they just do what they ever did, cash to win :D
Did you have full warrior tech during this video? @WrathofGod Gaming
Yes
I’m planning on resetting my Priest Tech for the first time to invest it on Mage Tech. If I decide to reset another tech let’s say Assassin, would it still be free?
1st reset in any tree is free, when you reset it the 2nd time in the same tree is when it begins to cost
For real, awesome idea!
The +12 is good but one copy is too easy for pay2win so maybe the 3rd time the stars for every copy increases e.g after 3rd the copy of stars needed raises to 6* and for the 12th upgrade, it would need an 10* of that copy and every or atleast every other upgrade would increase level cap by 10 and upgrade the 2, 3 and 4th skill of the hero would be upgraded individually every time...
Miss you wrath. Hope you are well
I've been wondering if you could tell me how it is that your playing on pc instead of your phone?
Bluestacks, its an android emulator for pc
that is a BRILLIANT idea. pls like, email the devs and preach this to them lolll
What do you guys think about a rainbow bleed team?
Xia, Horus, Cthugha, Valkyrie, Aspen, Aida
Drug Addict seems pretty nice
It would try to build heroes in the same class or maybe two to get the guild tech buff. That team has 4.
Andrew W. I just need like 20k guild coin to max the techs I needa do
@@Kz-oo7gt That's impressive, I've only maxed 2 classes.
Well I am the co leader of the guild so I am almost always in 1st or second place
You’re a god damn genius
i think a copy + catalyst would be better balanced..the catalyst being not too hard nor too easy to obtain..pretty nice concept tho..hope them devs consider it
That idea can fit to my Bleecker
Can someone tell me which is better 1+ attack 1+ health?
What is the easiest way to get prophet orbs and prophet blessings?
Thats a cool idea,I'm down for it
The only issue with this is that the game only cares about its biggest spenders. it's in the range of something like 700-1000 biggest spenders produce around 70-80% of the companies profit. People who made double Aida spent around 5,000-$6,000 USD on just chinese new year event so the game will do only what these type of spenders want. While it is messed up because im only VIP 10, but someone spends more money in just 1 event than I spent in my entire time playing so the game cares less about what I would ever suggest.
I just pulled the 5 star from the regular casino wheel on my 2 daily attempts
Bukkake Blast, Kum on my nutz 😂😂
What you said basicly just makes the game more difficult and horrible for F2P players cus whales will get all the copys anyways and max it out immediately this ounly will hurt F2P and make them quit. So i do not support this idea
“Oh no, someone who doesn’t pay money quit the game.” - game developers.
Can you try a battle with kroos subing Valk. I really think kroos would be better. From having auras and giving dmg boost to all ur heroes
Wrath can you test with Kroos? Kroos - Belarin -Hw support and Siggy- Xia and Asmo deamage delaer. I belive we can reach 1.5 bil with these squad.
Please everyone tell the devs through the feedback in game option to watch this...
What about E3 Mihm??
Keep up the good work wrath
*bukkakeblast intensified*
I've been playing Idle Hero for a while!
Damn, how many accounts do you have
Why is Holy Damage % is better ? Can someone explain to me. Kinda new in this game.
And what kind of stone is the best stat for ?
Holy damage ignores armour...
The more you have, the more percentage your attack actually reduces the health without being reduced by armour...
I don’t think it gets around damage reduce though
That’s actually a great idea. Tag the devs
Wrath please explain to me why 5 star aida is doing more damage than 8 star sigmund.
Because she does % based damage, and you probably have a poorly geared siggy, back when mine was 8* he could land 100m damage vs abyss broken spaces. My 9* aida doesnt even get to that
@@WrathofGodGaming Really?! The highest dmg ive gotten with him is 16 million. I have the courageous gear on him though.
Is your warrior tech maxed? What stone and arti are you running on him....that's what will decide the damage. An e3 sigmund with no tech and bad gear would probably be out damaged by a properly geared and teched 10* baade tbh lol Heroes arent amazing just because of their name, its all about the gear choices and tech that actually make them good
@@WrathofGodGaming No my warrior tech isnt maxed, and im new to this game so, i dont have good artifacts and i have an attack attack stone on him. And thanks for the help Wrath, your a great youtuber keep up the good work!
how does more damage in pve das moge or aspen?
What about more sigmunds in your line? I wonder what that would do 🤣
What are the 6 bis heroes?
Would you recommend Das Moge or Amuvor for PVE and overall ?
I believe is boss fights if you can keep him alive das moge hits harder. Overall I'd still recommend amuvor tho
sounds like a fun idea!! call the devs
I miss ur seasonal vids :( havent seen one for a while
From where you have so much dust?
“BukkakeBlast”
Is Das Moge a good pick for pve?
Dude 1 of ur characters can easily take down my entire deck
I really like your E3+ 12 idea, and I thought that you should make an account where you play 100% free to play. It would really help people who don’t like to spend money, and creates greater challenge for you.
No.
@@xKingYorkzor care to explain?
There's not enough content for it, it's just too slow, barely anything will happen in the first 2 months, just not worth it for yt
@@degeneratescum1855 He's also explained that he just doesn't enjoy playing F2P, and that's completely fine. He should be doing what makes him happy. He's gotten this suggestion probably hundreds of times
dolphy that makes sense, I just started watching his videos, so I didn’t know much, but thanks for clearing that up.
Didnt mention cthuga lol
How do you Know those things I don’t know anything I’m new
I can only do 112K Damage Maximum at level 51(current) ;(
Old but gold heroes
P.S. i love old heroes tho :))
Anyone else notice BukkakeBlast?
I’m a simple man, I see Wratch I click like.
I have 400 aidas what should i do
Yo you make me light up do u play on apple
I play on android and my PC
WrathofGod Gaming ok just wondering
WrathofGod Gaming you talk about making gods stronger when your valk has 7 mill hp...get outa here bro
swap kroos for valk = better damage
What does holy damage do?