I was just using MyHeritage's Chromosome Browser, last night, on my child's DNA matches. Amazingly, though I still cannot figure out how, there is strong dual matching to my child via my English father's family & my husband's very long paternal American lines. The Chromosome Browser showed that my English paternal cousin and at least 3 of my child's American paternal matches all shared a lengthy chunk of a chromosome! I will take Daniel's advice about screenshooting this segment and assigning a label to the people that have that segment matching. Now, if I could only figure out who the common ancestor/s were! I have come to realize that, because people lived in small communities until fairly recently, there is endogamy & pedigree collapse on both my lines, and in my husband's lines. That does make it more difficult to filter out the exact common ancestors, and puts extra chromosome sharing power into relationships, I believe... meaning that the most recent common ancestor/s may be further back than I think. Then that is also more difficult to find, since records are poor to non-existent, further back. I have also figured out that, if a match only shares a certain small portion of Chromosome 22, that seems to be a general population marker for English (Anglo-Saxon?) origin. In that case, it may be very difficult to ever find a common ancestor. I LOVE MyHeritage's new sort ability by yourself, or your match! That is so useful! I do need to update my Autoclusters & evaluate them more often to see how they change. That is such an impressive & useful feature! I have gone through and put the names of the matches on a spreadsheet and assigned a relation label to each group, where I can figure out some information. Love the new cM Explainer capabilities! Thanks to both of you for this video!
I have found much the same with my dna matches. Do you have a segment location on chr 22 that seems to be where the genearl population marker? I have what appears to be several different lines in the same region on chr 22. Currently I have 9 matches beginning at the same location on chr 22. 21,463,730 from both paternal and maternal lines. I have identified one common ancestor for both my parents, 10th cousins being the closest. Plus several more that are more distant.
And that's the frustration I share! I would like to subscribe to My Heritage in addition to Ancestry in order to access a more complete suite of tools and of course both DNA data sets but financially I'm stretched. NETFLIX, PRIME, QOBUZ, APPLE+, Ancestry.... you see where I'm going with this? There are just too many demands for different services that cover our modern "needs".
I’ve exported to GEDMatch and it has great tools, but the user base there is much smaller than Ancestry and many people there do not provide corresponding GEDCOM family trees.
As a long time Ancestry subscriber but recent My Heritage subscriber, I was blown away by My Heritages DNA functionality. I just wish their tree building functionality (particularly in terms of matching records and other trees) was as good as Ancestrys.
I am still trying to figure out these tools in MyHeritage. I appreciate this video, but wish someone could sit beside me and walk me physically through the steps. If I upload my DNA from another site, don't I lose confidentiality?
Thank you Connie. Good review. I was not aware they had labels. Will start using them. Would love the ability to sort shared matches by triangulated matches. Usually I’m only looking for triangulated matches and have to scroll through page after page to see then all. Thanks!
Even with 16k matches I’ve tried clusters and shared matches but still haven’t found any triangulation. I’m afraid when it comes to MH all my matches are far too distant and the cost of dna tools was wasted though at least it was a one off cost and not a recurring subscription based drain on my finances. I have around 16k matches on Ancestry too but I can only see two that appear on both sites and I knew who they were long before DNA testing was generally used anyway. I feel many of my matches are just associated with one site or the other and lack the knowledge or desire to look closely at their results or post them to other sites.
Not having the triangulation is also the important thing. When you have two matches on the overlapping but non-triangulated segment, you can say they come from different parent. When two siblings have different matches on the same non-triangluated segment, these matches come from different grandparent etc.
I did eventually find two who live in Australia, both are in their 80's and the tree, created in 2015 has just one name; The private, no tree, one name tree pretty much sums up the majority of my matches 25.2 cM shared dna, 1 segment, longest segment 21.8 32.4cM shared DNA, 1 segment, longest segment 28.6
Yes, MyHeritage has some great tools. But their usefulness is only as good as the number of matches you have. Ancestry is still king, with a database of 23 million.
I think with, (any dna site), the Chromosome Browser and Chromosome Painter, should be Combined. Now, when your viewing, a Certain Family Member, in your DNA Matches, and your looking at, one of the Chromosomes, you share, with that person, but... it doesn't tell you, what Ethnicities, you share, with that family member, on that Pacific chromosome, or other Chromosomes, you share, with them. You see your, Family Members, Ethnicity Results, on Ethnicity Estimate list, but not on, The Chromosome Browser. My Heritage, and Other DNA sites, should do that. You think so?
The Chromosome Painter itself can be very misleading thing. The whole "ethnicity" stuff is based on very small DNA segments and the chromosome painter just stretches these segments to fill the whole chromosomes. It can result in the situations that two persons matching on the specific segment can have different ethnicites painted on this segment. Even if you have possibility to test your sibling you can see different ethnicites on the full-identical regions (=regions where both siblings inherited the same DNA from father and mother, so the ethnicity must be the same).
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I was just using MyHeritage's Chromosome Browser, last night, on my child's DNA matches. Amazingly, though I still cannot figure out how, there is strong dual matching to my child via my English father's family & my husband's very long paternal American lines. The Chromosome Browser showed that my English paternal cousin and at least 3 of my child's American paternal matches all shared a lengthy chunk of a chromosome! I will take Daniel's advice about screenshooting this segment and assigning a label to the people that have that segment matching. Now, if I could only figure out who the common ancestor/s were! I have come to realize that, because people lived in small communities until fairly recently, there is endogamy & pedigree collapse on both my lines, and in my husband's lines. That does make it more difficult to filter out the exact common ancestors, and puts extra chromosome sharing power into relationships, I believe... meaning that the most recent common ancestor/s may be further back than I think. Then that is also more difficult to find, since records are poor to non-existent, further back. I have also figured out that, if a match only shares a certain small portion of Chromosome 22, that seems to be a general population marker for English (Anglo-Saxon?) origin. In that case, it may be very difficult to ever find a common ancestor. I LOVE MyHeritage's new sort ability by yourself, or your match! That is so useful! I do need to update my Autoclusters & evaluate them more often to see how they change. That is such an impressive & useful feature! I have gone through and put the names of the matches on a spreadsheet and assigned a relation label to each group, where I can figure out some information. Love the new cM Explainer capabilities! Thanks to both of you for this video!
I have found much the same with my dna matches. Do you have a segment location on chr 22 that seems to be where the genearl population marker? I have what appears to be several different lines in the same region on chr 22. Currently I have 9 matches beginning at the same location on chr 22. 21,463,730 from both paternal and maternal lines. I have identified one common ancestor for both my parents, 10th cousins being the closest. Plus several more that are more distant.
Thank you, Connie. I wish Ancestry DNA had these tools.
And that's the frustration I share! I would like to subscribe to My Heritage in addition to Ancestry in order to access a more complete suite of tools and of course both DNA data sets but financially I'm stretched. NETFLIX, PRIME, QOBUZ, APPLE+, Ancestry.... you see where I'm going with this? There are just too many demands for different services that cover our modern "needs".
I’ve exported to GEDMatch and it has great tools, but the user base there is much smaller than Ancestry and many people there do not provide corresponding GEDCOM family trees.
When Ancestry bleeds enough customers to other platforms they'll release it....I've migrated my work to MyHeritage
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This is really cool! The Browser and the Cluster are going to help me a lot. Thank you!
As a long time Ancestry subscriber but recent My Heritage subscriber, I was blown away by My Heritages DNA functionality. I just wish their tree building functionality (particularly in terms of matching records and other trees) was as good as Ancestrys.
MyHeritage does have the best DNA tools. Very smart of them.
Wow that is so interesting. Awesome work. Thanks.
I am still trying to figure out these tools in MyHeritage. I appreciate this video, but wish someone could sit beside me and walk me physically through the steps. If I upload my DNA from another site, don't I lose confidentiality?
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This is amazing!
Thank you Connie. Good review. I was not aware they had labels. Will start using them.
Would love the ability to sort shared matches by triangulated matches. Usually I’m only looking for triangulated matches and have to scroll through page after page to see then all.
Thanks!
Please do!
Even with 16k matches I’ve tried clusters and shared matches but still haven’t found any triangulation. I’m afraid when it comes to MH all my matches are far too distant and the cost of dna tools was wasted though at least it was a one off cost and not a recurring subscription based drain on my finances.
I have around 16k matches on Ancestry too but I can only see two that appear on both sites and I knew who they were long before DNA testing was generally used anyway. I feel many of my matches are just associated with one site or the other and lack the knowledge or desire to look closely at their results or post them to other sites.
Not having the triangulation is also the important thing. When you have two matches on the overlapping but non-triangulated segment, you can say they come from different parent. When two siblings have different matches on the same non-triangluated segment, these matches come from different grandparent etc.
I did eventually find two who live in Australia, both are in their 80's and the tree, created in 2015 has just one name; The private, no tree, one name tree pretty much sums up the majority of my matches
25.2 cM shared dna, 1 segment, longest segment 21.8
32.4cM shared DNA, 1 segment, longest segment 28.6
Is it possible to use this tool to see how people with Down syndrome are connected and their similar other chromosomes other than 21?
I don't think so.
Yes, MyHeritage has some great tools. But their usefulness is only as good as the number of matches you have. Ancestry is still king, with a database of 23 million.
But what's the point of having 23 million matches when you cannot do anything useful with them?
@@tomask1436 They are useful in and of themselves. I wish Ancestry had some DNA tools but the database is definitely more important than the tools.
I think with, (any dna site), the Chromosome Browser and Chromosome Painter, should be Combined. Now, when your viewing, a Certain Family Member, in your DNA Matches, and your looking at, one of the Chromosomes, you share, with that person, but... it doesn't tell you, what Ethnicities, you share, with that family member, on that Pacific chromosome, or other Chromosomes, you share, with them. You see your, Family Members, Ethnicity Results, on Ethnicity Estimate list, but not on, The Chromosome Browser. My Heritage, and Other DNA sites, should do that. You think so?
I’m not sure how useful that would be. I’ll need to think about it.
The Chromosome Painter itself can be very misleading thing. The whole "ethnicity" stuff is based on very small DNA segments and the chromosome painter just stretches these segments to fill the whole chromosomes. It can result in the situations that two persons matching on the specific segment can have different ethnicites painted on this segment. Even if you have possibility to test your sibling you can see different ethnicites on the full-identical regions (=regions where both siblings inherited the same DNA from father and mother, so the ethnicity must be the same).