This is an excellent tool and a must for all serious genealogists. I use it almost every day and has allowed me to break down brick walls on family lines that were previously unsolvable and allows you to find the greater family of your up to GG Grandparent.
I used the "what are the odds" tool a couple years ago to try to narrow down my wife's biological grandfather. We have a most likely candidate and just waiting on a YDNA test at FTDNA to match her brother. That tool was instrumental in finding a prospective tester. Hopefully within a month or so we will know for sure. Great video. Thank you!
Gosh I don’t know how so many people have so many relatives who have tested. I feel like I was dropped here by a stork. Very few tested relatives and parents are dead. You’re tutorials are invaluable and I’m so grateful. I would appreciate a notice at the beginning of these saying what level (beginner, easy, difficult, very difficult, advanced) so I know what to spend my time watching. This one probably won’t be possible since my “family” is so small and nobody tests 😢
I wish more people would be more willing to grant cousins viewer access to their DNA on Ancestry. As sharing tends to make genealogy that little bit easier 😉 But kutgw Jonny and great video Connie.
Wow he has added so much to this site. I'm so out of the loop now. My favorite has always been the chromosome painting and WATO. Thanks for this update.
When I first started using WATO, I found the term "target" confusing. In most cases, the target is the person you want to know, typically the deceased ancestor, not yourself. This terminology puzzles other people as well. Maybe the term "Key" would help clarify that the person who has taken the DNA test is the key to solving the mystery of the unknown ancestor that you're seeking.
I noticed that there are now companies that will do autosomal DNA testing from artifacts, such as a licked envelope or stamp, allowing individuals who are now deceased in your tree, but who are higher in generation to advance your DNA research further up the tree. Question - does this really work?
Hi - did you ever receive a response? I am very curious about this, too. My aunt had her mom (my maternal grandma) do an Ancestry DNA kit & I heard that they let her take a take a sip of Sprite soda cuz she couldn't get enough saliva to fill the tube. I had ordered kits for my children to do & they had just arrived, so knowing hers would not work I had her do one of my kits, but she was in kidney/heart/lung failure & could not get enough saliva to fill to the line. The bubbles touched the lone, but barely/still just a little under. I sent it in anyway. Of course, the test did not work & she passed away. I feel like if they keep these on file, maybe some day they will be able to retest. There are no siblings of hers still alive to test from her generation.
I’m hoping that dna painter might reveal some answers with the chromosome painter but those ‘unknown matches’ I have need to understand that they have to download raw data, they can’t seem to look past the cM share and just shrug their shoulders because we don’t have the same names in out trees. As these matches have higher cM figures than my known 1c2r and half 2c matches (and don’t link to them despite them all being maternal links) they are the key to solving several mysteries.
I have just started getting more into the DNA match part of genealogy am very interested in the DNA Painter. I have only tested with Ancestry. I am figuring out my next step, should I test with 23 and Me, upload to FTDNA, or upload to MyHeritage. I don't want to be overwhelmed at the start and in the end I will probably do all of it but am looking for the next best site to go to. I don't have any immigrant ancestors (through my 3rd ggps). Is 23 and Me the best option to start due to the common location of testers?
23 and me is the second largest testing company. However, I don’t know that they necessarily are focused on Genealogy as they are on health results. MyHeritage might be a good option to upload since you can do it for free. And family tree DNA also has a free upload. One step at a time pick one and go slow. If it were me, I would probably go to my heritage next since they have some very cool DNA tools. Also, you’ll have to pay for a test at 23 and me.
Do you know of an sources that lists statistics for large segments. For example DNAPainter's "Shared cM Project" is based on total cM, not longest segment. Is there a similar tool that will give cousin relationship probabilities for large segments? Largest segment of 100cm 130cm 150cm? Does the particular chromosome matter in that situation?
I don't know about statistics for segments. DNAPainter has a couple areas that might help answer your question in a different way. For example the WATO tool... (What Are The Odds) is rather interesting.
I'm getting nearly 1/3 Spanish (Santander, Cantabria) result (fathers fathers side) with a surname that 23andme says could be sephardic, but I have paternal haplogroup R-P311 and Maternal V. Neither one of these haplotypes are consistent with Sephardic Jews are they? Like it's pretty much a disqualifier isn't it?
I am a dna puzzle because I share no dna at all with my 2nd cousin. Working with other matches and people who should have matched and did not he is likely a half cousin. I still I share no dna with him at all even as a half cousin😮 But I do his dad, full brother and half sister but even my amounts with them are small. My 1rst cousin matches the one I don't at 123 cM, the brother at 26cM and the half sister at 49cM. My cousin matches their dad at 193cM but I only match at 46cM. The dad is my dad's 1rst cousin. No one has been able to solve why I match so low. Yes, I match my 1rst cousin at 833cM and his dad, my uncle 1575cM. My dad is deceased so I cannot test him. Likely what happened is my Granny had a different father than any of us knew even her. It still does not explain why I match so low to her brother's descendants. There is 1 other descendant that tested at 23 and Me, he is the son of a sister of the 1rst cousin mentioned above. I match him at 60 some cMs.
Hi, I have a few mysteries. one of the main ones I just have to figure out, are a group of cousins I have tons of matches for. Im pretty sure they are my moms paternal side due to numerous cousin who have tested. I believe they belong to her maternal grandmother and ofcourse they dont match any of the known names. My theory is she wasnt her fathers child. I do have a half great aunt who has a granddaughter who hasn't tested ive asked but she hasn't responded. How can I use the site to help narrow down these cousins who have triple digit CM's to us?
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I'm excited to try the DNA Painter! This looks like another valuable tool to have for my genealogy research.
This guy is my hero. Thank you for everything.
1 minute in and I already had to find the "save" button so I don't lose it for continued watching!
One of the best videos done.
I am finally ready to dive in to DNA Painter!! Ready to learn!
Awesome. Thanks for supporting the channel.
Fascinating stuff, Jonny & Connie - thanks for covering DNA Painter's capabilities, amazing!
Ancestry has so many users they could theoretically create Lazarus kits for people's deceased grandparents or great grandparents.
Ancestry could do a lot of cool stuff.
Amazing stuff. I'm excited for what is yet to be unlocked that's still hidden deep within our DNA.
Amazing. So happy to see this.
Love these tools! II couldn’t get through my day without them!
Fantastic!
Many thanks!
This is an excellent tool and a must for all serious genealogists. I use it almost every day and has allowed me to break down brick walls on family lines that were previously unsolvable and allows you to find the greater family of your up to GG Grandparent.
Thank you, awesome and so informative!
Glad it was helpful!
Gordon and I watched the video again. We are going to subscribe to DNAPainter!
Nice
I used the "what are the odds" tool a couple years ago to try to narrow down my wife's biological grandfather. We have a most likely candidate and just waiting on a YDNA test at FTDNA to match her brother. That tool was instrumental in finding a prospective tester. Hopefully within a month or so we will know for sure. Great video. Thank you!
Wow, I can't wait to use some of these tools. Thank you both for doing this video!!
Gosh I don’t know how so many people have so many relatives who have tested. I feel like I was dropped here by a stork. Very few tested relatives and parents are dead. You’re tutorials are invaluable and I’m so grateful. I would appreciate a notice at the beginning of these saying what level (beginner, easy, difficult, very difficult, advanced) so I know what to spend my time watching. This one probably won’t be possible since my “family” is so small and nobody tests 😢
Good idea.
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How many people do you have?
So useful! Wow! Going to watch this again!
Fantastic overview, thank you!
I wish more people would be more willing to grant cousins viewer access to their DNA on Ancestry.
As sharing tends to make genealogy that little bit easier 😉
But kutgw Jonny and great video Connie.
Thanks bunches
Wow! This video was very interesting! Thank you so much!
Wow! This was an awesome presentation. Thank you!
This was great. Going to try these
Have fun!
Thanks so much. Time to play.
This is very exciting you have even answered some of my questions.
great!
Off to investigate this. Looks really useful.
Wow he has added so much to this site. I'm so out of the loop now. My favorite has always been the chromosome painting and WATO. Thanks for this update.
You are so welcome!
Such a great tool! It helped me solve the mystery of my FIL's biological parents.
Excellent
This is awesome! I am wanting to write a book "Faith of My Fathers" (and mothers) what a great tool!
When I first started using WATO, I found the term "target" confusing. In most cases, the target is the person you want to know, typically the deceased ancestor, not yourself. This terminology puzzles other people as well. Maybe the term "Key" would help clarify that the person who has taken the DNA test is the key to solving the mystery of the unknown ancestor that you're seeking.
Genius!
He's a smart guy!
I noticed that there are now companies that will do autosomal DNA testing from artifacts, such as a licked envelope or stamp, allowing individuals who are now deceased in your tree, but who are higher in generation to advance your DNA research further up the tree. Question - does this really work?
Hi - did you ever receive a response? I am very curious about this, too. My aunt had her mom (my maternal grandma) do an Ancestry DNA kit & I heard that they let her take a take a sip of Sprite soda cuz she couldn't get enough saliva to fill the tube. I had ordered kits for my children to do & they had just arrived, so knowing hers would not work I had her do one of my kits, but she was in kidney/heart/lung failure & could not get enough saliva to fill to the line. The bubbles touched the lone, but barely/still just a little under. I sent it in anyway. Of course, the test did not work & she passed away. I feel like if they keep these on file, maybe some day they will be able to retest. There are no siblings of hers still alive to test from her generation.
Dimensions by county and state? Yay!
I’m hoping that dna painter might reveal some answers with the chromosome painter but those ‘unknown matches’ I have need to understand that they have to download raw data, they can’t seem to look past the cM share and just shrug their shoulders because we don’t have the same names in out trees. As these matches have higher cM figures than my known 1c2r and half 2c matches (and don’t link to them despite them all being maternal links) they are the key to solving several mysteries.
I matched 37 with my first Cousin, the largest segment 69.3cM, is that the correct amount of cMs to have for 1st Cousins
I have just started getting more into the DNA match part of genealogy am very interested in the DNA Painter. I have only tested with Ancestry. I am figuring out my next step, should I test with 23 and Me, upload to FTDNA, or upload to MyHeritage. I don't want to be overwhelmed at the start and in the end I will probably do all of it but am looking for the next best site to go to. I don't have any immigrant ancestors (through my 3rd ggps). Is 23 and Me the best option to start due to the common location of testers?
23 and me is the second largest testing company. However, I don’t know that they necessarily are focused on Genealogy as they are on health results. MyHeritage might be a good option to upload since you can do it for free. And family tree DNA also has a free upload. One step at a time pick one and go slow. If it were me, I would probably go to my heritage next since they have some very cool DNA tools. Also, you’ll have to pay for a test at 23 and me.
Do you know of an sources that lists statistics for large segments. For example DNAPainter's "Shared cM Project" is based on total cM, not longest segment. Is there a similar tool that will give cousin relationship probabilities for large segments? Largest segment of 100cm 130cm 150cm? Does the particular chromosome matter in that situation?
I don't know about statistics for segments. DNAPainter has a couple areas that might help answer your question in a different way. For example the WATO tool... (What Are The Odds) is rather interesting.
I have a question do you have to use gedcom in the tool with family tree. Because I don't have a lot of matches that have downloaded to gedmatch.
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I'm getting nearly 1/3 Spanish (Santander, Cantabria) result (fathers fathers side) with a surname that 23andme says could be sephardic, but I have paternal haplogroup R-P311 and Maternal V. Neither one of these haplotypes are consistent with Sephardic Jews are they? Like it's pretty much a disqualifier isn't it?
Any hints on using DNA Painter when you are part of an Endogamous population?
Great question. Here is an article on the DNAPainter blog that might help blog.dnapainter.com/blog/chromosome-mapping-and-endogamy/
I am a dna puzzle because I share no dna at all with my 2nd cousin. Working with other matches and people who should have matched and did not he is likely a half cousin. I still I share no dna with him at all even as a half cousin😮 But I do his dad, full brother and half sister but even my amounts with them are small. My 1rst cousin matches the one I don't at 123 cM, the brother at 26cM and the half sister at 49cM. My cousin matches their dad at 193cM but I only match at 46cM. The dad is my dad's 1rst cousin. No one has been able to solve why I match so low. Yes, I match my 1rst cousin at 833cM and his dad, my uncle 1575cM. My dad is deceased so I cannot test him. Likely what happened is my Granny had a different father than any of us knew even her. It still does not explain why I match so low to her brother's descendants. There is 1 other descendant that tested at 23 and Me, he is the son of a sister of the 1rst cousin mentioned above. I match him at 60 some cMs.
Hi, I have a few mysteries. one of the main ones I just have to figure out, are a group of cousins I have tons of matches for. Im pretty sure they are my moms paternal side due to numerous cousin who have tested. I believe they belong to her maternal grandmother and ofcourse they dont match any of the known names. My theory is she wasnt her fathers child. I do have a half great aunt who has a granddaughter who hasn't tested ive asked but she hasn't responded. How can I use the site to help narrow down these cousins who have triple digit CM's to us?
You might play with the What Are The Odds tool. Aka WATO.
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How do you know if a tree is correct or not?
Look at the records to verify connections.
Do they have something that can predict who you should marry and what you could expect
Exactly what I was looking for. Chromosome level.