Here's how the Cummins Diesel in the 2019 Ram HD Makes a Huge 1,000 Lb-Ft of Torque!
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- ( www.TFLtruck.com ) Cummins Diesel in the 2019 Ram Heavy Duty Makes Astounding 1,000 Lb-Ft of Torque: Here is How!
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I purchased a Ram 3500 with this newly re-engineered Cummins 6.7 last February. Not only is it much more powerful, but also unbelievably quiet. Oh, you can still hear and feel that it is diesel, but gone is most of the noise, vibration, and harshness. Get you one of these bad boys. You'll be so glad you did !!
Cummins leading the diesel pickup truck market once again.
@@MrDavidelliottjr tru. Competition is good tho
Lets wait till we see the powerstrokes numbers
@@KC-lg7tx .......what does it matter what the numbers are it will be a unreliable POS like its always been!!!
@@KC-lg7tx Those are a handful of trucks my friend definitely not the majority, that 840 truck has been " Bulletproofed " which is about 5k....to what make it ALMOST as good as a stock Cummins or Duramax. I have owned three Ram 2500....yes the 68 RFE is hot garbage completely agree.....Transmissions have always been their weak point for sure, I have heard very good things about the Aisin but no real experience with it. I have several friends that are die hard Ford fan boys....every single one of them have had several different PSD from 7.3, 6.0, HUGE POS 6.4, and four with the new 6.7.......every single one of them traded those trucks for a Cummins or Duramax, mostly Duramax. Ford changes their PSD every two years because sad truth is FORD can't build a reliable Diesel engine.....that have proven that. 7.3 was the best Diesel they ever built everything after that has been shit. Go ahead pay 70K for a POS be my guest, trucks look great, super quiet, and very strong BUT they ALWAYS have problems. I have logged more miles on a Diesel than a HUGE majority of people on here and I can tell you PSD is a joke, not being a dick, its just a fact! My best friend has 4 2018 PSD and all 4 have been in the shop, all 4 have less than 60,000 miles.......yeah great diesel engine there guy, don't believe the BS you hear on TH-cam......big HP and TQ numbers doesn't mean jack if the thing is un-reliable over the long haul. You have to take the cab off to work on the POS LMAO.....
You wish. Ford dealers can't find one on the lot, ram dealer...100's sitting there not selling.
Big numbers. Andre is always good to watch. Thanks for all your hard work and the constant flow if info.
Wow that new engine is amazing. Great job guys
Who can pull 35,000 lbs up the Ike Gauntlet faster?!! The new Ram 3500 or Andre?!!!! 😯😄
@@stephankane5879 Hey now, calm down... I never doubted what ole' Andre the giant can do. Just trying to give TFL something to think about for a future episode. 🤨
Andre but he will use more fuel aka beer.
@@thesunflowchannel1995 Russians don't drink beer. Only Vodka!
I have been following TFL and all their channels for a long time, back when Andre did not speak English on the videos as a joke... Andre and TFL crew in general have evolved into the best car/truck/off-road channel on TH-cam!
Too bad the electronics don't hold up that long. That stuff can cost as much as a transmission. The electronics are the weakest link.
Pair this engine with an Allison transmission and BOOM ,the ultimate beast!!!!
You ain’t lyin!
The HD Aisin 6 speed auto trans that is teamed with this High Output 6.7 is pretty stout; robust. Service Manager where I bought my 2019 Ram 3500 tells me that this Aisin is very similar to transmissions in over the road trucks (semis; tractor trailers) and that there are next to NO issues that have come up with them over all the years that they have been used. The Chrysler's 68RFE would not be able to handle the higher power and torque of this re engineered 6.7. They would burn out. But not the Aisin.
You cannot beat a Cummins Diesel !
I bought a ram 3500 last year it's awesome I'm glad I bought it the 6.7 cummins and aisin trans are simply the best out there. alot of dodge trucks now have a million and a half miles on them change the oil and filters and you'll never have to buy anther truck the rest of your life
Amén brother
I love the Power Wagon. but all these trucks are going to be insanely priced. I couldn't imagine paying for a truck that's going to have the payment of my mortgage.
I’d go with the 18 power wagon sense there really isn’t much changed except cosmetic and a bit lighter. And you will probs get a great deal. I’ve seen them as low as 42 of the lot
Have you checked the price of the average car these days? Why should trucks be left out?
Top end luxury trucks are expensive but the base trim trucks are affordable for today's market
I'll stuck with my 05 PW
You must live in a shithole
1000 ft lbs at 1800 rpm is 343 hp...
That means that this truck only needs to hold torque to 2,100 rpm to make 400hp.
This engine will be nearly bog proof. It basically makes its peak power everywhere.
It also only needs to make 780 ft lbs at 2,700 rpm to keep the 400hp.
With that in mind, do you think having a 10 speed transmission like the V8 competitors would help any?
I think the Aisin is fine with this new setup IMO.
To be fair, thats just the awesome thing about diesel! For example the Powerstroke will make 935 ft-lbs at that same 1800 rpm, but holds that torque well since it gets all the way up to 450 hp at a respectable 2800 rpm. Both the Ram and Ford will lose some torque as rpm's increase but not much.
We act as if this means a new realm of capability. It doesn't. These new trucks have their torque canceled out with taller gearing. If you wanted, you could have a peaky gas engine do the work with short gears and close spacing. In fact, many medium duty trucks are gas and have the similar capability. Gearing is how things were normally done in the truck industry, but the hairdresser truck segment wants those peak output numbers.
Giovanni HP is HP so yeah a gas motor can do the same work. It’s just nicer to use a Diesel engine when you can start a grade at 1600 rpm and never have to shift.
TH-cam User not on something with such a flat HP curve.
All the trans does is match rpm with road speed. If your average HP throughout a gear is the same, then it doesn’t matter how many speeds you have.
This is why the 5 speed 2009 wrx beat the 6 speed sti. Same HP at the wheels (different manufacturer ratings though), but one had less torque interruption.
I own a 2019 Cummins with the lower #'s (370hp 850 ft/lbs). Believe me, it has more than enough power to pull my fifth wheel.
How can you tell the difference if you got a high output or regular? Just got a 2019 3500 mega cab
Just need to find a sponsor for a 30k plus load trailer now...Andre need to be getting MrTruck ready to go
Great overview, as always!
Cummins I6❤️
RAMHD = BEASTMODE
Pair this engine with the Allison transmission and BOOM, the ultimate beast
I knew they'd hit the 1,000 mark first. And with two fewer cylinders. And with twice the reliability and designed service life.
reliability is questionable.. like any FCA product-
ncstate220 Cummins isn’t fca. I also think 90% of you that bash fca have never owned one. Quite sad.
Ah.... I don't know about twice the reliability and service life. The Cummins 6.7L has had it's fair share of problem threw the years.
@@AkioWasRight hands down more reliable than GM and Ford diesels and it's not close
@@NuclearSandwich7 Well it doesn't say Cummins 1500, it says Ram which is FCA - Also, I've owned three, 2006 (before Fiat), 2015 and 2016 (after Fiat- both lemons)
I had a feeling that Ram would be the first to hit 1,000 ft lbs
No you didnt
Jessa Phillips Get back in the kitchen you sandwhich maker.
Teddy Mopar Here we have Captain save a hoe Mr. Bufftard!
@@bullymaguire4457 Here we have Captain Insecure. Mr. intimidated by the opposite sex and, apparently, my physical appearance... 😄 Feeling a little inadequate, little guy?... 😆
It's not Ram that did it its the cummins
Excellent interview andre! Really looking forward to seeing your review. Also it would have been nice if you would have asked him if it retained the same great engine sound as the previous cummins inline 6
I hope Mr. Truck is gettin' ready to equip you guys with a 30K trailer to head up the gauntlet!
Great now I can burn through another 68rfe faster than ever before.
its a aisin transmission.
Yeah forreal. They need to make a decent transmission first
@Roscoe Dogg True, but the high output version and 3500 trucks do. And the 68rfe is not as bad as everyone thinks it is. Everyone likes to rag on dodge for their autos but few even own them let alone ever seen one fail.
Yet for some reason theirs a HUGE aftermarket for GM and Ford transmission upgrades for durability.
Weird
Clint Williams joked on you buddy. All new Ram heavy duty trucks will have the Aisin. Ha!
I'm loving the hydraulic valve adjustment. No more setting the overhead. I bet it's a lot quieter than my 5-9 now. I love my 24 valve but I hate doing valve adjustments. ♥️🇺🇸👍
At 1:07 did he just say "Dodge application"? It's 2019.
Rams have a 6.7L Cummins engine. What Dodge has one?
On a side note, this engine is SO MUCH BETTER to work on than Powerstroke and yet you don't have to.
Case in point EVERYTHING, but specifically the injector pump.
Dodge and ram use to be closely associated that’s why many still refer to it as dodge 🙄
Seems the new CGI block allows for the increased bore diameter over the 5.9 (107 vs 102mm) while remaining a parent bore versus the siamesed bore on the previous 6.7 gray iron cummins, that's badass
gotta love a Cummins engine
When it comes to diesel engines inline 6's are somehow always better.
Better torque baby! Cummins has done an excellent job refining the inline 6 diesel engines. Diesel engines were made to be inline 6s!
Can't wait was just notified my new truck with all this started being built july 3rd
Andre, As others have mentioned the CP4 fuel pump has a history of problems that lead to very expensive repairs. I would like to hear a comment from Cummins on this. It sure doesn't leave me with a warm fuzzy feeling about this new engine.
I love this channel I hope one day my channel get this big
Wait till Mr. Banks gets his hands on one!
I was hoping it was by removing the DPF and EGR systems 😂
Blake Watson lol i wish. Epa would be on their a$$
What...no one wanted to talk about the dpf??? lol yeah we're just going to gloss over that subject.
Dpf is a fact of life with modern emissions laws, unless you want to go back to 1980s diesel power and torque numbers.
How Ironic...Aisin is Japanese and owned by Toyota. So if you buy a Ram..it has a Japanese tranny and in this case a Cummins diesel. So the powertrain will be good and the rest will be FCA junk.
Mike Foehr have 3 aisin transmissioned trucks at work. It’s an excellent product.
It's ok nobody wants to hear about tree hugging dpf ideas. They know everyone deletes them.
TFLT is reaching beyond its skill level interviewing these big dogs.
Kind of late to this video, but I have a question. Does all the technology mentioned for the HO version of this engine bleed into the Standard Output version at all? Graphite Iron Block, strengthened crankshaft, main marring caps with larger bolts, piston-pins with bushings, thicker flex plate, hydraulic lash adjusters, fuel pump?
I am not brand loyal and run all of the big three trucks in my fleet. I do this for many reasons. We use them hard! But we also maintain them well.
We would rank the trucks in the following order for durability and reliability.
Ram
GMC
Ford
Others might have other experiences but for my business we have found that to be the truth. Again, I’m not loyal to any brand I’ve owned many of each.
Nice review. Did Ford reveal their new HD
We enlarged the piston pin. Abdre: and where is that.
Noooooooooooooooo, you should know this!
Yeah, I thought that was funny, too. But he most likely asked that for the sake of his viewers who aren't as motor savvy as most of us, and might not know where a piston pin is. .
The new 6.7L Cummins with GM's new 10-Speed Allison would be a beast.
Tho, I am still purchasing a 2020 GMC 3500HD 4x4 Denali Dually. Its 32,000 lbs tow rating (35,500 Lbs for a Single Cab Dually), is what I need. I currently have a 2016 Ram 3500 Dually 4x4 that just hit 330,000 miles and has towed for 296,000 miles. I generally tow right around 28,000-32,000 lbs with a 5-car trailer and the Ram hasn't been holding up. The 6.7L/Aisin Combo has been perfect for the first 220-250k miles, but is slowing falling apart. The truck is a 2016 Ram 3500 Crew Cab Laramie Limited Dually 4x4 with the 6.7L Cummins (385 - Hp / 900 - Tq) and Aisin AS69RC 6-Speed that had every single option on it when I bought her new, I got a killer dealer on her for $62,000 for an almost $80,000 truck. I wanted to trade her in when she hit 300k miles, dealer offered $15,000.
The interior on the 4th Gen Rams is the absolute worst quality. Right around 120k miles, everything started to fall apart; center console lid, driver seat frame, radio freezes, speakers blown, dash rattles, 12-Volt outlet wiring caught fire, dash flickers, trailer brake controller doesn't work and I had to install an aftermarket, 4wd knob broke, sunroof leaks, back sliding window gets stuck, cooled passenger front seat stopped working, leather on driver seat bottom and back/center console lid/passenger seat bottom leather have all torn. There is probably a few other things I am missing.
The drivetrain has been perfect tho up until 250k miles. Broke almost all the teeth of the rear axle pinion, Turbo bearings failed and was replaced by an OEM Holset HE351VE (Which was $3,000 by the way), intercooler cracked, exhaust manifold cracked, EGR gummed up (I Know that is common and I removed it), on my 3rd turbo to exhaust manifold MLS gasket due to failure when using exhaust brake, on my 4th lift pump because they seem to fail every 100k miles, on my second high pressure pump, Aisin transmission lost reverse and was replaced at Dodge at 247,532 miles, Aisin transmission lost lower gears 1/2/3 and was replaced at Dodge at 315,498 miles, Aisin torque converter shutter and failure at 329,792 miles and was covered under previous replacement at Dodge. Yesterday, second Turbo failure (Compressor wheel was sideways in housing) and was replaced with a slightly larger Precision Turbo.
The guys over at the Dodge/Ram Dealer recommend that at 350,000 miles, if the engine makes it that far without any issues, to have the entire engine gone through and pretty much do a full rebuild.
My Trucks GCWR has never been less than 30,000 lbs while towing, and has been as high as 40,000 lbs, and according to the truck, it has been hooked up to my trailer for 296,xxx miles out of 330,000 miles.
A buddy of mine who is in the same line of work as I has a 2015 Chevy 3500HD 4x4 Dually Crew Cab with the 6.6L LML Duramax (397 - Hp / 765 - Tq) and 6-Speed Allison 1000. Now, the truck has a max tow rating of 23,000 lbs but tows over that almost every time. He has a 4-Car trailer and when loaded he is pulling around 25,000 lbs to 28,000 lbs. The truck just hit 300,000 miles and other than the DEF system problems he had, and has since removed all of it at around 150k miles, the truck has been flawless. He removed the stock Bosch CP4.2 injection pump and replaced it with a different unit before his failed during the same time he removed the DEF crap since they are known to fail.
I know he doesn't tow quite ass heavy as I do (Average of 5,000 lbs less), only because his truck legally can not tow as much, but it can tow it, it is just holding up much better. Now, who knows how long the 6.7L Cummins will last past 350k miles, or the Duramax, but they both have 300,000+ miles on them, and he has only had DEF system problems, while I could have bought a brand new Toyota Corolla for the same price as parts I have replaced.
My Next truck is going to be the next Gen Chevy/GMC 3500HD. I will give them about a year to make sure all the bugs are worked out on these all new Duramax Engines and Allison 10-Speeds, but will own one.
Thanks for the videos guys. Let me know if you guys need a metro Detroit channel I live in area and cover the big three for you guys. :). I can test all vehicles on these horrendous Michigan roads lmao. Giant boulder potholes.
Wish they would have stuck with a CP3 fuel pump instead of going with a CP4.
I was worried about that too. The CP4 has a bad reputation
It's an update cp4
I'm sure fleece performance will come out with a kit to retrofit a cp3 pump back on it. They have one for the duramax and I believe someone also has a kit to do the same to the 6.7 powerstroke.
I don't want the CP4.2 either...
This is a major bummer. The Cp3 has superior reliability. The Cp4 is bad news.
crazy car!!
clean cut ,straight forward no bullshit engine.
They have the engine, perhaps a new, redesigned transmission should be next year.... still, I'm very impressed with ram overall this year.
What they aren't telling you is that the engine very rarely puts out 1,000lb/ft of torque, and when it does, it spools up to that point slowly. Hard to believe that in order to get 400hp and 1,000lb/ft torque about 30 years ago, you needed a big 14 liter engine (NTC400).
Did the Cummins guy just say "DODGE" in the beginning (1:08)? That's unreal since they both have this lovely marriage - you would think you know your wife's name.
Kimo Jon yep,...”Dodge application.”
Several steps above my 1998 Truck with a little 5.9 ! But no additives needed ! My poor old tuck still pulls hard !
Ram has been testing the new ZF 8 speed transmission for some time to replace the Aisin which is not well regarded. Question for Ram, why did they turn down the ZF? ZF is already used in a number of other Ram and Dodge applications. Why did they stay with Aisin?
The guy at Cummins was very nice 👍🏼
Andre is the best on tfl
You sure know your stuff and it clearly showed.
Why is there still a EGR on the motor when the new SCR and DPF system is sitting right beside the upgraded engine
damn it boi
Those con rods are massive.
Any specs on the pto that's available on the new 5500?
Are they going to have cp4 problems like the duramax trucks?
i want a 2019 ram 2500 6.7l cummins, i don’t know much about diesel, how would this truck do as a daily driver/short trip truck, (no deletes) no towing or hauling, 6 miles to work and 6 miles back home? a grocery getter. long trip once a year. i just want a big truck, i like the sound of the 6.7l cummins diesel.
Huummm I wonder why Ford doesnt have a cut-away engine and speak of improvements....Cummins seems so much more trustworthy, just from a business perspective
Camera man be still for a second
Variable vanes on the hot side of the turbo are a component of the exhaust brake. It's surprising how "truck" people know so little.
I can’t wait till this engine goes in a good truck body.
Ford & GM got their diesels ready on the dyno...
I just bought a ram 5500 with the 6.7 it pulls like a dream but the rear springs dont hold up to the weight
Pretty Awesome,,,Might Be My Next Truck,,,My 2019 F450 Has Problems,,I’m A Cattle Hauler,That Is My Living,,,Might Go To Dodge This Summer
I can't believe RAM is the first one ever to accomplish that!
Hope Cummins offer this as a stand alone crate motor as well, with an ECU. I'd buy one, if I had something to put it in.
Had something. Lol. Yeah me to.
What is the difference between the high output and the standard?
The man from Cummins in the video explained all of the improvements made to the old 6.7L. Those are the difference between the high output and the older 6.7L . But you knew that.
If they throw twin on the H.O it would be game over for the competition, No need for VGT, More efficient and who does not like a sexy set of twins
Hopefully that CP4.2 pump isn't a problem.
Cummins 6.7 is so fun at 800lb feet of torque. 1000 is stupid awesome..
I wish Cat did on road diesels still. GM were in talks to have them just before Cat decided to stop on road diesels.
A great engine but will the transmission hold up?
Hey Mopar, do whatever you can and extend your Cummins deal with Dodge over to Jeep and give us an inline 6 or 4 option!!!
Will this fit in my fiero?
You heard it from Cummins, the first to put the crank on the engine, instead of inside the engine.
Congrats to FCA for the 2018 $650,000,000,000 dollar fine.
It’s available this engine only for 3500 ? Or we can have it in 4500 and 5500 ???
Ram was the first to come out with a diesel engine out of the big 3 truck makers. Diesel all about torque. And I know bigger towing capacity is better & truck makers are competing with each other. But who's really towing that much heavy weight it's not like things are getting more heavy.
Yes GM was the first, then Ford, but dodge brought out the one that changed it all.
Andre did Ram mention what the SRW axel ratio was?
Matt Bustos I believe you can get 3.73 or 4.10 as an option.
Cool. Have you fixed your transmissions yet?
nope. hence the lower output option. RAM knows the 68rfe is weak and flawed. they even admit that the 68rfe is weak. that is why they detune then engine... sad, just sad. other then the 68rfe remaining, its an awesome truck. I figured you know this too :)
50 + years Dodge transmissions have never failed us. My dad must have been an evil magician.
@@BigBadDodge4x4 ...they detune the engine to match a weaker transmission and then charge more for the full power engine ?!
Cripes.
They made it even quieter, no more Manual transmission option, automatic only, +70 torque that hardly anyone will notice or take advantage of, $80k+. This new truck has no character to me.
My 2017 f 450 it’s leaking oil already at about 37k miles. My brothers f350 it’s leaking worse at around 34k and my dads already went to the shop, while my other brothers f 250 is waiting in line for the same oil leak problem. I only wish that’s the only problem with these trucks
And when you do the Ike Gauntlet whatever you do don't let Nathan drive it. In fact, make him sit in the rear...the bed.
I guess the next step is dry sleeve design for in frame rebuilds, and clam shell holds on there 2500 3500 trucks?
So, is the new "standard output" going to have all the same engine upgrades as the "high output"? Same block, CP4.2 fuel pump, etc? Is the only thing different the transmission? They keep talking how they got to 1000 Lb-Ft but never address the regular Cummins. I would assume it is the same motor, just de-tuned. If thats the case, the reliability may be even better on the new 6.7.
Yes, it's just tuned for better fuel economy. I would imagine that the tuned down version would go a half a million or more miles. My semi had 900,000 before I had an overhaul and that was a Detroit. I've seen a cat and Cummins go over a million before overhauling it. Now when I mean overhaul that's just polishing the heads and dropping in new pistons and sleeves.
Are you sure that it is the same engine or just guessing?@@sonsofliberty3081
I bet all of yall, the duramax will still beat it up hill and down hill with the same load and i hope yall make sure and do that.
Stay tuned for the Ike Gauntlet. Let the games begin... .
You're drunk
It beat the ford and dodge up that 7 mile mountain and won by 1min and 30sec I believe it was. Duramax spanked the cummins and the powerstroke. It also had a higher top speed!! Also..... The cummins claimed more torqe, and the powerstoke claimed more torqe and more HP. Duramax 1st place powerstoke 2nd place cummins 3rd @@southerngunslinger4048
Welp, they stepped up the diesel motor again, Time to upgrade the gas to. Gimme that 7.0 426hemi in my 2500!!! Now!!!!!
Yeah you should test the Ram 3500 with 35,000 pounds
No test does that.
Where will it be built? Manual transmission?
Used to be built in Mexico until sometime in 2020. Now they're built in Michigan. No manual transmission.
I mix Gas and Diesel in my Tacoma in a 6:1 ratio for extra torque.
6:30 so 10% of this new truck built will need an engine overhaul at 200,000 miles or did I misunderstand that??
How about a 100,000$ price tag for that extra horsepower Lol!!
Test a chassis/cab truck in the Ike Gauntlet against a complete truck
Yikes. Saying their B-10 is at 250,000 sounds like they’ve gone down a notch in quality. I’m thinking the older B-10’s were 300,000+ so that would be nearly 20% lower long term reliability than outgoing 6.7’s.
I thought the 2020 duramax was going to have 1,400 ft pounds of Torque
75,000 mile air filter i wanna see what thats gonna looklike when its time to change it
Did he say BOSCH CP4.2 at 3:30.... BLAH HA HAAAA!!!!
Look nice except minus the emission controls.
Still aint gonna last like a decent 24 valve or 12 valve. What's actual wheel torque? I mean, I'm a ford guy, honestly allvwrte doing is adding more power to make up for lost power. I see tons of potential problems with this motor. Quit saying they're solid. If they were so god damn bullet proof these mechanics wouldnt be working overtime. But the more I see my buddy's shops the more not-fords I see filling them. What I miss about my Cummins? That 20 mpg towing at 70 mph. I saw 28 with maybe 2k pounds payload once. But that was a properly built mild 24 valve. It was around 400 at the wheels, perfect tune. Perfect motor. Wish I still had it but a stock hauler has been putting it through its paces. Hasn't skipped a best yet and it's been coast to coast a dozen times or more by now.
When are these manufactures going to stop with the torque numbers? At this rate by the year 2050 we will see torque at 5000lb ft
These engineers are awesome...to make a straight V6 with so much power...more power than the V8 ford and chevy combined 🤣 CUMMINS Just the best. 👏by the way this guy shouldn't be saying the secret of the CUMMINS.