When she's saying "strømper", "skjorta" and "väska" it sounds like she's saying professional terms, but she's just saying "socks", "shirt" and "bag" in norwegian xD
I know right?! 😂 If she wanted to use more bunad related words she could have said "hosor" instead of "strømper", "trøye" instead of "skjorte" and "stakk" instead of "skjørt" 😉
Yeah, I really don't get that, also if we're talking bunad it should not be called bodice but the "vest" of the bunad. Like just use the english terms, you don't need to use the norwegian word. Especially when she doesn't even mention the use of "søljer" which there isn't an english word for.
I was just about to say this xDDD I was just like "uhm.... yeah its a shirt, its literally a shirt.. yeah its a fancy shirt, but a shirt that dont look like that is also called a shirt, because thats just the norwegian word for it" and veske... I am dead... yes its a bag.. she looks so proud of herself when she is saying this. But hey, she is not wrong.
That’s because broadway is actually real people who can wear the costumes. When doing animation you want to make things appealing to the eye and the story.
The Person I don’t believe that Olaf is 5’4, because after I heard that I looked up how tall Elsa & Anna are, and I found out that Elsa’s 5’7 & Anna is 5’3, and Anna is definitely not smaller than Olaf, so I don’t believe it.
Thank God for this! The whole film is her covering up as much skin as possible because she's terrified she's going to kill someone. Compare Elsa to Anna who is younger. Anna's shoulders and arms are perfectly visible in her Coronation Day garb. And if you check the women in the ballroom, they're dressed similarly with short sleeves. Else is literally the only person going to super extreme lengths to cover up every bit of her skin and that says she's hiding something. Plot Twist: she is! It's nice to get an expert's opinion but if they don't take the entire situation into account while explaining their observations, they just sound like a pompous windbag. All of Elsa's clothing has been tailored to cover her as much as possible.
Very true! Although, it doesn't really matter. She's talking about the fashion accuracy to the time, not how it or specific garments like her gloves pertains to the movie. 😂👍👍
@@ValerynValentine The issue is that she's saying it's historically inaccurate, but actually in history, there would have been plenty of examples of people not wearing exactly what the trend was because of all sorts of personal reasons (though perhaps not magical ice powers 😂).
I’m glad you mentioned this. I wish she had compared Anna’s coronation gown to Elsa’s because it is clearly more fitting with the description provided: short sleeves, puffy, brighter, but Elsa’s dress is meant to evoke how literally buttoned up she was, hence why Let It Go has her shedding her gloves, cape, updo hair and the dress.
So... as an actual Norwegian, who owns a bunad, I was a bit thrown by all the past tense: Bunads are still made today, worn for special occasions (it falls under «good enough attire to attend a Royal party in»), and the words for things on the bunad are not archaic and no longer in use. A skjorte is still a skjorte if it's a man's button-down shirt, or a bunadsskjorte (bunad shirt). Side note, bunads are typically made as a one-piece dress, out of wool - and only a select few people are certified to make them; it involves hand-embroidering the whole thing, including the shirt in some styles. Some styles are fairly plain with very little embroidery on the dress, none on the shirt, some are extremely elaborate with embroidery on both the bodice AND skirt of the dress, and on the shirt. Many places, the skirt-part of the bunad is referred to as «stakk» (sounds like stack) - but I'm not entirely sure what it would translate to in English. Also, rosemaling (the wood-painting inspiring the embroidery on the bunad) is still practiced as an artform today. #TheMoreYouKnow
@Alicia en el Pais de las Maravillas Bunad has always been formal attire, and is still to be seen at just about every wedding, 17th of may (our national day) and other formal occasions. Not to be used as a costume as it is still a living tradition.
@@AmalieSangovi Were they one-piece in the 1840s, though? I'm no expert in Norwegian fashion, but lots of European outfits we'd recognize as dresses and assume are one piece with modern eyes were done in multiple pieces back then due to the limitations of the time (no zippers, for example) making it easier to dress and to fit clothes if they weren't one piece, and for the purpose of mixing and matching pieces.
MegaKaitouKID1412 the bunad is for most parts one pice. We only have a skirt underneath and the corset is worn on top of the bunad. But remember there is a bunad for every region. But mostly one piece
I thought the white coronation gowns were supposed to reflect the wealth of the royals? I could be wrong though. Also, why is Disney so afraid of fancy crowns? I think those huge crowns that were actually used by monarchs back in the day would look much more badass and regal than the flimsy little toy-tiara that Elsa had.
also, I think people would cringe or laugh to see a huge expensive tiara get thrown across the room by Elsa instead of that small tiara when she sings let it go
@@makenseyelise4193 3d animation is done by creating assets and using them-- you don't have to draw the crown 8 million times, you just move the model around. More intricate designs are harder and more expensive to make in the first place, but no matter how fancy the asset, if it's just a solid piece of metal sitting on a characters head it'll stay consistent without issue just the same. That's not to say more intricate assets wouldn't be more expensive to make though.
When we talk about Elsa we have to keep in mind that she refused any kind of physical touch and was afraid her powers would leak through her body, hence the long sleeves and gloves. And I think that Disney didn't thought of any historical accuracy when they created a kingdom in a probably alternative timeline.
@@StrawberryGalore But the whole point of the video is to point out historical inaccuracies. Obviously it's fantasy, but she's not gonna just let it slide and say it's ok since it's meant to be fantasy, since that contradicts the point of the video
Please do Snow White, Cinderella, Alice (Alice in Wonderland), Wendy (Peter Pan), Aurora, Ariel, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Esmeralda, Megara, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida and Moana next
THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY HIRING A FASHION HISTORIAN. SHES GREAT. now, redo all of your inaccurate 100 years of x, y, and z videos with her qualified knowledge. thnxx glamour
Surprised she didnt mention that the main reason for corsets was to help with the weight of the clothes. Padding was added to clothing to get the figure wanted, tight lacing wasnt that popular.
Exactly! making it more simplified is one of the things to keep in mind for character design in animation (also, colors of clothing sometimes have meaning to the character) This situation can be both for 2D and 3D animation. In 2D, there's more to draw. In 3D, more details in 3D takes longer time to render
You missed the point, "This drees is total fantasy" was not a critic, it was a verdict, the point of the video was not to criticize the outfits but to judge their historical accuracy and show what these characters would look like in real life, there is nothing to correct or be cynical about Edit: this comment is stupid, please just ignore me
True but its fun to see how they actually would have looked like if they were historically accurate. I personally think we should incorporate more history in children shows. Its already there, they just need to make it accurate.
the term "day dress" is mostly used as a synonym for casual dress, what you would wear for day-to-day life, like how "evening dresses" are formal dresses. However since huge formal events like coronations could take up a whole day, people would technically be wearing "evening" clothes during the day.
@oh floofy eh? Wasn't that song sung during the after party?. The coronation wasnt during night time, but the party after the coronation was during night time
As someone who works in in the animation industry, Please stop referring to the Visual Development artists, the ones who actually design the look of the costumes, as Animators. WE ARE NOT ANIMATORS. Thank you.
@@getjinxed96 vis dev sometimes uses 3D elements and they are the ones who research references and then incorporate it into scenes, visual layouts of the scenes whether this pillar is either too big or too small etc. which ever works for production (technical side) whereas concept artists create initial character designs, character boards, colours/ textures and sometimes film posters etc.
Just FYI, the lady refers to the animators doing a good design job but it's actually the visual development artists, the character designers and the art directors that take care of the design part. Animators animate : )
Elsa's coronation dress seems to be designed to be more symbolic it seems. Her dress always came off as super restricting to me. Which would fit how she was feeling that whole day.
Melissa Lo Verde singing reindeer, snow monsters, magical ice castles, a princess with the power to freeze her sibling....yet it’s the dress that this channel has issues with 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I was like “How dare she leave out the and sauna because the sauna is a very important part of it” sorry I just love that part
Yes to Karolina, but no thanks to Bernadette Banner. Her weird, affected accent is like pretentious nails down a chalkboard to me. But Karolina is so knowledgeable, I really appreciate her insights.
Z•Angel Animatez the Town Yes But the Map And Stuff is Wrong if you look it up Anna and Elsa are Czech names If they were in Norway why would they use Czech names. Usually people stick to their Traditional names
Although a lot of what she is saying is correct, much of it is actually really incorrect to the point where I feel like she just says Norwegian words to sound smarter. When she says that these garments WERE called "veske", "strømpe" and "skjørt" she is really just translating the words, purse, stockings and skirts are STILL known as "veske", "strømpe" and "skjørt". Also when you write the "traditional names" for these garments, please don´t mix them in to seem smarter. At Anas 8th layer, when you write apron (known as a "forkle" in Norwegian) and "veske" (purse), couldn´t you have translated both? Or neither, it just seems so half-assed. Another thing that REALLY bothered me was the fact that she put the reindeer shoes together with the bunad, OMG I can´t even begin to describe how inaccurate that is! The sami people are an entirely different group of people, and does NOT wear a bunad, they have their own traditional dress. The bunad shoes look more like the shoes Elsa is wearing, usually in leather, with a small, broad heel, and with a nice, silver buckle on. Please get this right, it´s just spreading misinformation. It´s kind of sad to see how hyped the comments are for this "amazing, totally accurate" Norwegian costumes.
@@shaunyjimenez9637 If you publish ANYTHING claiming to be factual in any form of media, you have a responsibility to make sure it's accurate. Especially if it's published by a large brand like this, with supposed experts weighing in on things. It isn't hard to e-mail a rough cut or script to a couple dozen people who know what they're talking about.. The fact that even an average Norwegian can point out errors here is concerning, and makes you wonder what else they got wrong. I have no doubt that @Surrekatt wouldn't try and publish a video titled "Fashion expert fact checks Pirates of the Caribbean", because Surrekatt knows what they don't know.
@@andre3328 I- my dude the caribbean doesn't have pirates and all I'm saying is to not expect an american historian to know everything about norway, her job is hard and she did it well.
Theres no way that a royal from Arendal in the south in the 1840s would wear shoes from the indigenous people exclusive to the very north. Thats too far into fiction.
I thought it was pretty clear the family that owned the shop that sold her the clothing was Northern, and royalty wasn't a consideration in the choices.
This video was so great up until the shoes... The shoes you put on Ana was (and are still) used by the Sami people, who lived in the furthest north part of Norway. The movie is based in Arendal in the south meaning they where not Sami people and would not use these shoes. And Arendal does not have reindeer the same northern Norway does so they do not use them but rather other animals. Also as mentioned the people who did use these shoes are Sami and did not use the bunad but rather they’re very different kofte (google it if interested). So you would never see these shoes and the bunad in combination. And also the bunad was only for special occasions.
So true... And bunad shoes does have heels, so in that way Anna's shoes are accurate ish. They should've been lower, had a more round/squarish tip and a silver buckle.
It's funny how a professional would know things foreigners don't, but you could just go ask a native person and find the information that way instead... and even better...
Crazy cat lady Yas «Den svensk-norske union fra 1814 hadde vært lite mer enn en personalunion med felles konge. Det vil si at Norge hadde en høy grad av indre selvstyre, men det var Sverige som sto for utenrikspolitikken til begge landene.» dette er hvertfall det som står på snl, MEN det står jo her at selv om vi var i union med Sverige så var det for det meste bare utenrikspolitikken som ble delt aka vi var basically et eget land under hele unionen som betyr at det er helt urelevant om Norge var i union med Sverige eller ikke
This is really interesting and detailed, but just one note : please stop saying "animators", their job is to ANIMATED haha. Here we would be talking about either props/clothing designers or character designers, just designers in general. Just like an actor isn't responsible for their outfits, neither are animators.
Uhhm, as a norwegian I could tell you that most of the stuff you talked about Anna wearing is still normal to wear today (mostly on Norway's national day) and the shoes you said Anna would wear are Sami, and Anna and Elsa are not Sami. Pluss the Sami shoes are called skaller and would never have been worn in combination with a bunad, with a bunad you would wear bunadsko which are shoes made specifically for wearing with a bunad. But other than that, great video!
*hires a fashion historian* *completely neglects looking into the history of corset lacing and continues perpetuating the myth that tight lacing was "The Way" *
Polina K yeah she was like So TIghT ThEy CoUlDnT BreAtHE tHEy WanTeD tHE smAlLEsT wAist but it was more of adding padding to the bust and waist and then some tight lacing to create the illusion of a small waist. Especially in the 19 century this was the fashion. She just played into the stigma of corsets And you can tell she didn’t really put much research into the corset side of things
exactly! Very few engaged in tightlacing, most of the silhouettes were achieved with a combination of things. (Women not being able to breathe was a combination of unfamiliarity with corsets, heavy dresses and fabrics, and the fact that wearing a corset requires an entirely different way of breathing! (Upward, intead of in and out! I still breathe this way, it's very productive for me as a former asthma sufferer.)
There are so many inacuracess here and it is really hurting my heart. She talks about the Bunad like it WAS something they wore, when it still is something norwegians were... And omg just so many wrong assumptions...
@@carolynworthington8996 no, bunads are modernised folk clothes worn for confirmations, graduations and national days. They’re based on what people wore everyday in the country during Norway’s romantic period but aren’t completely historically accurate
Animators don't design the characters (and their costumes). They """just""" make the characters move (believe me, I'm one). So stop referring to the creative teams behind these costume choices as animators when they're most likely to be concept artists, character designers, etc.
Yeah form what I’ve heard the animators just animate what they’re told to animate while other people have different jobs to create what the costumes look like and where it take solace so I believe you
I did too. The crinoline made the waist looks smaller. Tight lacing is a myth. No one tight laced,it was all photoshopped by using white paint at the time.
Also when she said "corsets were used for hundreds of years". Corsets were newish at this time. Stays were used up until corsets came into use during the early-mid 1800's
@@curehead9877 Actually, women did in fact, tight lace sometimes. But all the same, it was simply an illusion. Wide shoulders and several layers of petticoats made for a severe hourglass shape, but the waist measurements only went down a few inches. I suggest watching some of Bernadette Banner's videos on this topic; it's really interesting!
@@katharinajohnson2761 Tight-lacing did happen, but it was rare and mostly done by wealthy, upper-class women. Empress Sissi of Austria-Hungary (in the late 1800s, early 1900s, I think) had a 16 inch waist at one point.
well, if Arendelle is in Arendal, then she would wear an Arendal bunad the one you made for her, the "historical correct" is a mix between mant different types of bunads so, this isn't correct either Also, when she's saying "strømper", "skjorta" and "väska" it sounds like she's saying professional terms, but she's just saying "socks", "shirt" and "bag" in norwegian xD
Tight lacing is a myth - or mostly a myth. Much like fashion magazines today, the mythical 18 inch waist is more mention in passing in these ads. This Fashion Historian, should know this.
It’s fun to hear her pronounce some of the norwegian words like: skjorte, veske, bunad, skjørt. She didn’t pronounce them correctly, but that’s fine. And the skirt, or «skjørt» is called «stakk» on the bunad :)
Glamour: *Makes "100 years of" videos* Us: HIRE A REAL FASHION HISTORIAN!!! Glamour: *hires real fashion historian for frozen video* Us: Now you have Norwegian inaccuracies... ;n;
J .S this chick literally has a job being a historian, she probably knows more about than you and ten minute video can’t really represent that, and she’s given a script
Anna was wearing stockings at the coronation, you saw them when she got knocked into the boat. I assume she removed them after trekking through the snow in slippers.
"So this dress is total fantasy" I'm sorry lady but the whole movie is a fantasy, there isn't any girl in this world who had an ice power and create an eternal winter by stepping on the river/sea.
Y'all know this is a video analysing a movie for fun right?? Y'all know that we and the fashion expert in the video are aware that it's a movie, but still want to hear about how historically accurate it is, right? Killing the fun
What!! Combine the Sami shoes (skaller) with bunad???? Thats really insensitive to the cultural supression of the Samis done by Norwegians and not factually accurate at all.
@Niña Mala www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/everything-you-know-about-corsets-is-false/ io9.gizmodo.com/no-corsets-did-not-destroy-the-health-of-victorian-wom-1545644060
There’s a singing snowman and a 21 year old queen who turns July into December in a land that doesn’t exist and ur fixating on a dress with long sleeves😂
Aaah im Norwegian and trust me you’d need long sleeves in winter! ❄️ It’s always as funny hearing people try to talk Norwegian! You would not wear a bunad if it was not a important event! Only samiis wore those shoes Anna wore!
@@kristin123a The dress was made to look like a bunad too though, which was ignored in this video. And if it's based around a bunad then it would have long sleeves no matter what. Pluss Norway it can be summer in Norway and you could still need sleeves, especially if you live near a Fjord and the larger mountains because the winds bloew really heavily.
MariaakaAnnie - Cosplay well, Arendelle and Arendal is in the south of Norway so in would in fact be okay to not have sleeves. Anyway, you use a linen shirt under the bunad and linen gives very little warmth. The jacket or cape is what keeps you warm. And her coronation dress is obviously not made to look like a bunad anyway.
Ok Idk about Norway specifically but corset lacing was never meant to be tightly laced until the late 1890s/early 1900s. Even then it was not common in the slightest and was usually seen as not practical
NORWAY DIDNT EVEN USE CORSETS WITH BUNADS! The vest is very solidly structured with front lacing to keep stuff in place AND ALSO IT IS ATTACHED TO THE SKIRT, ITS NOT A TWO PIECE
Well except the victorian era cause back then queen Victoria's dressing style became famous around women, there were countless cases were women were suffocated or stabbed by their corsets
I don't think Elsa should wear shorts sleeve, she wear long sleeve cause she's afraid her power would scared everyone I don't think they watch the movie like seriously 🙄
I know that. It's pure entertainment, the way that some people like looking for easter eggs in movies or some people like to come up with fan theories. It's just part of the enjoyment of these movies, dissecting them for accuracy.
how come glamour can’t even get a “fashion historian” that’s correct. I mean it’s much better than most of their fashion history videos, but still, she got quite a few things wrong.
Question minus the regional thing with the shoes for Anna, what did she get wrong? Historical fashion is hard to get 100% right a lot of the time. Fashion trends constantly change and people have different accounts as to what was popular vs what people actually wore. Then there is the issue of what was worn based on wealth, social status, region, and religion.
@@dominiquethomas3775 I don't know anything about fashion, but I'm fairly certain that basing the totality of style at the time period on one image of a queen, and then filling in the gaps with British fashion isn't correct.
@@dominiquethomas3775 its abit dumb to base the royal fashion on British and swedish royal fashion cause Norway did not like Sweden and British and Scandinavian fashion at that time was not the same. The shoes they put on Anna was very much wrong and the shoes that is in the movie is actually more correct. And another thing (and I am no expert mind you) I have not seen any Bunad with a corset inside it. The top part of the bunad actually works like a corset most of the time and even if the royals would have worn a corset, we did not have any royals and the people on the countryside would have never worn a corset, because it was just to impractical... To compare Norwegian bunad is similar to German and Austrian Dindle.
Elsa was originally going to have historically accurate dresses. Elsa's concept artwork shows Elsa in historically accurate dresses. Dark Elsa wears three historically accurate dresses.
She really didn’t have to try to pronounce all those norwegian words to sound smarter tho, cause she butchered them all and it was just a little redundant. “a shirt called shirt.” “a bag called a bag”..
s. elias she isn’t trying to be smarter she’s trying to be informative because it’s an informative video, even if she butchered them she tried her best
Jen. M. If she was trying to be informative she could have just called a shirt a shirt, because that’s literally what it is and even is directly translated as. You aren’t being “informative” by mentioning things that allready have English words for them. It would have been accurate and informative to say the words that are specific and doesn’t have a translation. But it is cringy just sitting there saying “stockings called stockings”. It’s literally just the Norwegian word for an allready pretty normal English thing. No need to speak Norwegian to describe it. If it’s about the “bunad” then yes, there doesn’t exist a name for it in English because it’s pretty special and specific for Norway. The shirts and socks? Bruh they don’t have those specific names. Dont belive me? Google Skjorte and you will just get “shirt” because that’s literally what it is. The exact same thing. If you are trying to be informative just explain the things as what they are instead of throwing in a native languages names for it just to sound smarter. It doesn’t make you sound informative at all. It makes her sound like an idiot that have no idea what she is actually talking about.
PyroShayNiac you aren’t being pretty educational acting like an ignorant fool pretending that these basic things have some exotic and interesting names. More like making a fool out of yourself for not researching the translation of the words 💁🏼♀️. I mean we are totally in the wrong for pointing that out, right? 🙄
Costume doesn't always mean things like Halloween costumes. In this situation it means a set of clothes in a style typical of a particular country or historical period.
Actually no, she means a set of clothes used in a movies/tv shows/commercials etc.(in this particular exam it is an animated movie, but still they have clothes on them) and she is apsolutely right. No matter the style or meaning of clothing, be it traditional clothing, uniforms of any sort or something in that lane, if used for a particular character in some production, it becomes a costume. It is not called 'Costume designer' for no reason.
@@akirasaito1551 I can see your prospectiv. But I have never heard of anyone having an issue with the term costume being used in that way. It's used so frequently in books and conversation about traditional clothing.
Corsets did not exist for hundreds of years. Stays did. Corsets were invented during the Victorian period. Tight lacing was not widespread, although small waists were fashionable.
Corsets were NOT invented during the Victorian period ! And yes, it was massively widespread in Europe and in settlements ! Get your facts straight, honey ! 😂😂😂😂
@@Siseja Btw it's well known that the members of the european monarchies followed the fashion of the french royalty so why would Norway have had corsets only since the Victorian Era ? Does sound logical to me that all... Plus, it's not "invented", only COPIED.
@@shizukagozen777 Norway didn't have royalty or even nobility at all until the 20th century and Norway was one of the poorest countries in Europe until the 1960's. That's why
She’s not criticizing the movie or the animators itself, she was asked to look at period movies, fiction or not, and to show us what it would look like if it was purely Norway, 1840s. It’s just for content or fun. At the end, she explains why the animators made the movie the way they did, and it wasn’t a bad thin
@@c0nnorisnotreal Yeah exactly. _Fashion historian_ NOT a linguist. Unless you're a total asshat, no one chastises foreigners for having a thick accent, so it's not exactly right to do that to her. Chances are, she's probably not even learning the language at all.
Rayn K The Norwegian words she said in this video is just regular words that means skirts, etc. She could’ve said them in English so people watching the video can understand it better, but instead she kept on going with the Norwegian words and most importantly she can’t even pronounce it right
The bunad is still very much in use. During may 17th, Norways national day, if you go out to the streets, that's what the majority of people are wearing. There are different bunads for each municipality, in different colours and embroideries. Getting a bunad isn't something you just to the supermarket for, either. Only ceritfied people can make them, they are hand sewed, and can cost up to 50 000 norwegin kroner (5 700 dollars)
Can you blame her? She either said them on the spot or has never heard anyone (at least a Norwegian) say it out loud. There have been worse pronunciation fails.
Nice video, but the fact that that kinda shoes were worn by the Sámi people does not mean that they were worn by everyone in Norway. The Sámi people are the native people of Northern Europe and they're not the same as just regular Norwegians or Swedes or Finns. They're of a different ethnicity and they have their own culture, not to mention they have been treated rather horribly by the governments and the people of the countries they live in. I don't know if the use of shoes similar to theirs spread to the non-Sámi people in Norway, but if it did, saying Anna, who is not Sámi, should wear them, is incorrect. And quite disrespectful! You wouldn't make 19th century Americans wear native clothing unless they themselves were natives, would you? It's the same thing. Again, I might be wrong and the style if shoe might've spread to the non-Sámi population, but you did not mention that in this video, and thus I'm just telling you this thing here.
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Thank you! I am sami and have those shoes, and I also have a bunad, but I would NEVER combine the two. It would not be accepted to use those shoes to a bunad by Norwegian people nor the sami people. And seeing that Norwegians started assimilating samis in the 1850s they would NEVER EVER wear sami apparel.
It makes sense that Anna's boots weren't winter boots because it was supposed to be summer. It was Elsa's powers being out of control that made it so cold.
I think the reason why they didn’t take the full historically accurate route is because animation would be really hard having to deal with long hair, giant dresses, and capes.
Everything seemed right to me except for the boots- he wouldn’t have had winter boots in the store because it was summer when everything turned frozen. Not trying to sound critical just an observation!
the trading post was like a "department store". they had only one in stock, kind of like when stores have so little winter coats in the summer but if you look around hard enough you might find one in a clearance aisle or something. that was the concept they were going for, i think.
Guys relax. Yes, it’s just a movie and yes, she’s checking the historical accuracy of a movie based on a fairytale, but there’s no need to be like “Oh she said this dress is pure fantasy in a movie with a talking snowman!” This video is just for fun and educational purposes.
I think you should check out some of the concept art for the movie. I remember some of the original outfits created in the old character designs showed a bit more accuracy in norwegian dresses and fashion in the time period set in the movie.
00:50 I deadass thought they were going to talk about the historical accuracy of Elsa’s ice stress and I was going to comment how ridiculous that was until this point 🤦🏾♀️
As a non-native English speaker who’s been learning for close to two decades, I can tell you I only found out earlier this year, and I’d be surprised if any of the people I know who didn’t study fashion knew themselves. Edit: Wait did you think they were talking about a horse’s hair, as in the actual animal’s? Because in that case, I’m afraid to tell you that’s *not* what that term means.
@@toastysock She said that to put pressure on the fact that it's not actually horse hair, since a lot of people watching this most likely doesn't know that.
I've been binge watching all of these historically accurate fact-check videos for an hour now and I'm in love with this! Please keep making these! These are so cool, unique, and entertaining!!
I would argue that Elsa was wearing long sleeves to make absolutely sure that she didn't accidentally touch anyone. Also since she was so isolated, she probably didn't care much about the current fashion.
i am going to be completely honest , Frozen Creators/ Disney did not do anything wrong. They designed it how they wanted to , so I don't think that this should be a thing.
I love this girl, but the second she said corsets make it hard to breathe I wanted to die. Corsets aren’t uncomfortable! They are the precursors to bras and the only people who would lace tightly we’re noble teenagers trying to get attention at important events! Corsets are not evil!!!
I am Norwegian and when she tried to say "skjorte" i was like: Oof.... Because this was what i heard: "sjårta" It honestly would have been better if she just said it in English.
When she's saying
"strømper", "skjorta" and "väska" it sounds like she's saying professional terms, but she's just saying "socks", "shirt" and "bag" in norwegian xD
I know right?! 😂 If she wanted to use more bunad related words she could have said "hosor" instead of "strømper", "trøye" instead of "skjorte" and "stakk" instead of "skjørt" 😉
Yeah, I really don't get that, also if we're talking bunad it should not be called bodice but the "vest" of the bunad. Like just use the english terms, you don't need to use the norwegian word. Especially when she doesn't even mention the use of "søljer" which there isn't an english word for.
Yes but her pronunciation is also very wrong😂
I was just about to say this xDDD I was just like "uhm.... yeah its a shirt, its literally a shirt.. yeah its a fancy shirt, but a shirt that dont look like that is also called a shirt, because thats just the norwegian word for it" and veske... I am dead... yes its a bag.. she looks so proud of herself when she is saying this. But hey, she is not wrong.
@@CarolineForest x'D
What’s fun is if you look at the Broadway musical, the costumes have much greater historical accuracy.
Zach T Was just about to comment the same thing! Ahh I love the musical
I read this comment then went to Google images of the Broadway show and first page had Elsa in pants. :|
because Broadway musicals and musicals in general focus more on immersion instead of merch sales like animated kids films :)
That’s because broadway is actually real people who can wear the costumes. When doing animation you want to make things appealing to the eye and the story.
It would be really hard and kinda unnecessary to animate dresses like that
Frozen actually took place during summer not winter
Now that I think about it, you're right..
I think your right....
...but they are in a snow storm so they dress as if it’s winter😐
she went to the ********** mountains, the top of the mountain, ICE SNOW
Well.. Elsa's fault
I love how the coronation gown is literally covered in crowns XD
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O you were talking about the historical accurate dress I thought you meant elsa’s dress and I was trying to find where the crown is
@@少主-m4h to be fair I forgot I made this comment until recently and confused myself as well 😂
Incase someone didn't get the memo and thought the ceremony is for something else... 😁
Them: *fact checking fashion*
Kids currently: * fact checking how Olaf is 5’4 so Kristoff would be over 11 ft, and all the characters are giants*
The Person I don’t believe that Olaf is 5’4, because after I heard that I looked up how tall Elsa & Anna are, and I found out that Elsa’s 5’7 & Anna is 5’3, and Anna is definitely not smaller than Olaf, so I don’t believe it.
monsterjambrony well Minions are 3’5 so GRU would be 14. If he can be 14 I’m not too surprised at Disney not keeping up with proportions
The Person how tall would the earth giants be then... I’m scared
So oaken is like 14 ft hahahaha
Zarela Patricia wow
She wore long sleeves cause she was very conservative and didnt wanna have skin exposed that might create ice
Thank God for this! The whole film is her covering up as much skin as possible because she's terrified she's going to kill someone. Compare Elsa to Anna who is younger. Anna's shoulders and arms are perfectly visible in her Coronation Day garb. And if you check the women in the ballroom, they're dressed similarly with short sleeves. Else is literally the only person going to super extreme lengths to cover up every bit of her skin and that says she's hiding something. Plot Twist: she is!
It's nice to get an expert's opinion but if they don't take the entire situation into account while explaining their observations, they just sound like a pompous windbag. All of Elsa's clothing has been tailored to cover her as much as possible.
Very true! Although, it doesn't really matter. She's talking about the fashion accuracy to the time, not how it or specific garments like her gloves pertains to the movie. 😂👍👍
@@ValerynValentine The issue is that she's saying it's historically inaccurate, but actually in history, there would have been plenty of examples of people not wearing exactly what the trend was because of all sorts of personal reasons (though perhaps not magical ice powers 😂).
I’m glad you mentioned this. I wish she had compared Anna’s coronation gown to Elsa’s because it is clearly more fitting with the description provided: short sleeves, puffy, brighter, but Elsa’s dress is meant to evoke how literally buttoned up she was, hence why Let It Go has her shedding her gloves, cape, updo hair and the dress.
@@hellywatermelonsmellinfell3436 I wouldn't say she sounds like a pompous windbag, but I do think that context needs to be considered.
So... as an actual Norwegian, who owns a bunad, I was a bit thrown by all the past tense: Bunads are still made today, worn for special occasions (it falls under «good enough attire to attend a Royal party in»), and the words for things on the bunad are not archaic and no longer in use. A skjorte is still a skjorte if it's a man's button-down shirt, or a bunadsskjorte (bunad shirt). Side note, bunads are typically made as a one-piece dress, out of wool - and only a select few people are certified to make them; it involves hand-embroidering the whole thing, including the shirt in some styles. Some styles are fairly plain with very little embroidery on the dress, none on the shirt, some are extremely elaborate with embroidery on both the bodice AND skirt of the dress, and on the shirt. Many places, the skirt-part of the bunad is referred to as «stakk» (sounds like stack) - but I'm not entirely sure what it would translate to in English.
Also, rosemaling (the wood-painting inspiring the embroidery on the bunad) is still practiced as an artform today. #TheMoreYouKnow
@Alicia en el Pais de las Maravillas Bunad has always been formal attire, and is still to be seen at just about every wedding, 17th of may (our national day) and other formal occasions. Not to be used as a costume as it is still a living tradition.
@@AmalieSangovi Were they one-piece in the 1840s, though? I'm no expert in Norwegian fashion, but lots of European outfits we'd recognize as dresses and assume are one piece with modern eyes were done in multiple pieces back then due to the limitations of the time (no zippers, for example) making it easier to dress and to fit clothes if they weren't one piece, and for the purpose of mixing and matching pieces.
MegaKaitouKID1412 the bunad is for most parts one pice. We only have a skirt underneath and the corset is worn on top of the bunad. But remember there is a bunad for every region. But mostly one piece
As a norwegian I completely agree with all this. It’s also often in one piece or with skirt yes
Also there’s embroidery on the skirt as simple as the one Anna is wearing in some types of bunads
I thought the white coronation gowns were supposed to reflect the wealth of the royals? I could be wrong though.
Also, why is Disney so afraid of fancy crowns? I think those huge crowns that were actually used by monarchs back in the day would look much more badass and regal than the flimsy little toy-tiara that Elsa had.
They're probably thinking of licensing the dress for patterns and Halloween costumes...
Those big crowns don't appeal to little girls who love delicate little tiaras
also, I think people would cringe or laugh to see a huge expensive tiara get thrown across the room by Elsa instead of that small tiara when she sings let it go
they probably take too much money to animate consistently
@@makenseyelise4193 3d animation is done by creating assets and using them-- you don't have to draw the crown 8 million times, you just move the model around. More intricate designs are harder and more expensive to make in the first place, but no matter how fancy the asset, if it's just a solid piece of metal sitting on a characters head it'll stay consistent without issue just the same. That's not to say more intricate assets wouldn't be more expensive to make though.
When we talk about Elsa we have to keep in mind that she refused any kind of physical touch and was afraid her powers would leak through her body, hence the long sleeves and gloves. And I think that Disney didn't thought of any historical accuracy when they created a kingdom in a probably alternative timeline.
Yeah... It's not exactly supposed to be historically accurate.
@@StrawberryGalore But the whole point of the video is to point out historical inaccuracies. Obviously it's fantasy, but she's not gonna just let it slide and say it's ok since it's meant to be fantasy, since that contradicts the point of the video
Kida Lily they said IF it were in history at the end.
"even seeing an ankle would be very scandalous fo this time period"
* proceeds to show many period pictures of women wearing calf lenght skirts *
I think that only applies for the nobles, Only the pictures of commoners were shown.
They were all wearing stockings.
Please do Snow White, Cinderella, Alice (Alice in Wonderland), Wendy (Peter Pan), Aurora, Ariel, Jasmine, Pocahontas, Esmeralda, Megara, Mulan, Tiana, Rapunzel, Merida and Moana next
Right!!!
Ariel? 😂
@@paigeisme95 It's the dresses she wears when she turns into a human that are not historically accurate
they did belle already
Snow White's dress is the only one that's actually historically accurate
THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY HIRING A FASHION HISTORIAN. SHES GREAT. now, redo all of your inaccurate 100 years of x, y, and z videos with her qualified knowledge. thnxx glamour
LOL!
first name last name She still made some mistakes tho.. but it’s miles better, I can agree on that!
She made SO many mistakes tho
Surprised she didnt mention that the main reason for corsets was to help with the weight of the clothes.
Padding was added to clothing to get the figure wanted, tight lacing wasnt that popular.
Lol
Winter boots made out of reindeer skin, sorry Sven.
Me: *sips milk* that's kinda dark.
A lot of people still wear skaller (the reindeer-skin boots)
Poor Sven
Oof
and reindeer meat is delicious.
@@mizzfit02 oh god--
@Katherine Weissenberger she said milk not TEA
Ppl do realize that the design for the character also needs to be kept fairly simple, cause you know, they need to animate it?
Exactly! making it more simplified is one of the things to keep in mind for character design in animation (also, colors of clothing sometimes have meaning to the character)
This situation can be both for 2D and 3D animation. In 2D, there's more to draw. In 3D, more details in 3D takes longer time to render
You're missing the point. The point is that it's pretty much not accurate at all. The designers could've at least tried...
Simple doesn't mean it has to be bad though.
But maybe their animation team is just simply not that good. :)
lmao which is why frozen 2 took so long because the animators took clothing detail into the next level
@@rachelwei2286 they need to do a video just like this but frozen 2
"So this dress is total fantasy."
The talking reindeer and trolls in this film however.. typical 19th century..
The reindeer doesn't talk.
We do lyrics In one scene it does
@@vivianvisi0n | I mean, he isn't generally a talking character, so it's not really a fair statement.
Kristoff made Sven talk
You missed the point, "This drees is total fantasy" was not a critic, it was a verdict, the point of the video was not to criticize the outfits but to judge their historical accuracy and show what these characters would look like in real life, there is nothing to correct or be cynical about
Edit: this comment is stupid, please just ignore me
I don't think the costume designers were particularly concerned with historical accuracy
I think they took it into consideration and added some elements but they kinda modernised it for the audience
May The lady thinks so too.
@@May-xs3pw exactly!!!
Lol
True but its fun to see how they actually would have looked like if they were historically accurate. I personally think we should incorporate more history in children shows. Its already there, they just need to make it accurate.
She keeps saying that the dress was not appropriate because it was an evening coronation. But the coronation was actually held during the day. So....
It was during the night, during love is an open door it's dark outside
@@rileywalker2637 but that was after the corination
the term "day dress" is mostly used as a synonym for casual dress, what you would wear for day-to-day life, like how "evening dresses" are formal dresses. However since huge formal events like coronations could take up a whole day, people would technically be wearing "evening" clothes during the day.
@oh floofy oh well then the corrination was really long bc it was bright when it was the begging of the corrination
@oh floofy eh? Wasn't that song sung during the after party?. The coronation wasnt during night time, but the party after the coronation was during night time
As someone who works in in the animation industry, Please stop referring to the Visual Development artists, the ones who actually design the look of the costumes, as Animators. WE ARE NOT ANIMATORS. Thank you.
@V The Visual Development Artists :) There's multiple. I would suggest checking out the concept art book.
Is visual development artists another way of saying character designer?
They're called concept artists.
@@getjinxed96 vis dev sometimes uses 3D elements and they are the ones who research references and then incorporate it into scenes, visual layouts of the scenes whether this pillar is either too big or too small etc. which ever works for production (technical side) whereas concept artists create initial character designs, character boards, colours/ textures and sometimes film posters etc.
@@haippy9888 ohhh, so visual developers basically focus on the background while concept artists focus on the characters? Thanks!
Just FYI, the lady refers to the animators doing a good design job but it's actually the visual development artists, the character designers and the art directors that take care of the design part. Animators animate : )
Elsa's coronation dress seems to be designed to be more symbolic it seems. Her dress always came off as super restricting to me. Which would fit how she was feeling that whole day.
Omggggg this is so true I never realized that. Thanks for pointing that out lol
You know what else is inaccurate, talking snow men.
Melissa Lo Verde singing reindeer, snow monsters, magical ice castles, a princess with the power to freeze her sibling....yet it’s the dress that this channel has issues with 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Exactly 😂
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julie Wallis It’s still interesting to know about what people wore at the time. No one’s blaming the movie creators.
And ice powers
Excuse you, it's "Wandering Oaken's Trading Post *_and Sauna_* "
Get it right! *sips tea*
Sad Pancake wOaH tHErE
I was just waiting for them to show Anna hit the last part of the sign and just “... and Sauna” 😂
That’s exactly what I was thinking. I was like “How dare she leave out the and sauna because the sauna is a very important part of it” sorry I just love that part
"Yoohoo!"
@@GoVocaloider Big summer blow out!
Can Karolina Żebrowska or Bernadette Banner react to this?
Oh my god yes!!! Love them both!!
Yes
Yaas
Yes to Karolina, but no thanks to Bernadette Banner. Her weird, affected accent is like pretentious nails down a chalkboard to me. But Karolina is so knowledgeable, I really appreciate her insights.
Yeah, I'm obsessed with both of them
I’m Norwegian. And I think the drawing y’all did wasn’t as accurate either.
Bunaden var det bittelitt, men yupp
I am too
Cuz frozen isn’t in Norway
The Tyler Janae Channel yes it is.
Z•Angel Animatez the Town Yes But the Map And Stuff is Wrong if you look it up Anna and Elsa are Czech names If they were in Norway why would they use Czech names. Usually people stick to their Traditional names
Although a lot of what she is saying is correct, much of it is actually really incorrect to the point where I feel like she just says Norwegian words to sound smarter. When she says that these garments WERE called "veske", "strømpe" and "skjørt" she is really just translating the words, purse, stockings and skirts are STILL known as "veske", "strømpe" and "skjørt". Also when you write the "traditional names" for these garments, please don´t mix them in to seem smarter. At Anas 8th layer, when you write apron (known as a "forkle" in Norwegian) and "veske" (purse), couldn´t you have translated both? Or neither, it just seems so half-assed.
Another thing that REALLY bothered me was the fact that she put the reindeer shoes together with the bunad, OMG I can´t even begin to describe how inaccurate that is! The sami people are an entirely different group of people, and does NOT wear a bunad, they have their own traditional dress. The bunad shoes look more like the shoes Elsa is wearing, usually in leather, with a small, broad heel, and with a nice, silver buckle on.
Please get this right, it´s just spreading misinformation. It´s kind of sad to see how hyped the comments are for this "amazing, totally accurate" Norwegian costumes.
Wow dude chill she's american she tried her best wanna see you describing caribbean 1800's clothes without missing stuff
@@shaunyjimenez9637 If you publish ANYTHING claiming to be factual in any form of media, you have a responsibility to make sure it's accurate. Especially if it's published by a large brand like this, with supposed experts weighing in on things. It isn't hard to e-mail a rough cut or script to a couple dozen people who know what they're talking about.. The fact that even an average Norwegian can point out errors here is concerning, and makes you wonder what else they got wrong.
I have no doubt that @Surrekatt wouldn't try and publish a video titled "Fashion expert fact checks Pirates of the Caribbean", because Surrekatt knows what they don't know.
@@andre3328 I- my dude the caribbean doesn't have pirates and all I'm saying is to not expect an american historian to know everything about norway, her job is hard and she did it well.
@@shaunyjimenez9637
She didn't do it well at all.
@@pako7414 i give up
Theres no way that a royal from Arendal in the south in the 1840s would wear shoes from the indigenous people exclusive to the very north. Thats too far into fiction.
Not really. Like she built a magical castle out of ice. I dont believe "too far into fiction" exists. The main focus is the story
I thought it was pretty clear the family that owned the shop that sold her the clothing was Northern, and royalty wasn't a consideration in the choices.
I was face-palming at that. No way Sami footwear would've been worn down here (I live in the south)
I was thinking the same thing when those Sami-shoes popped up :p
The point was she bought everything on a whim at a trading post
This video was so great up until the shoes... The shoes you put on Ana was (and are still) used by the Sami people, who lived in the furthest north part of Norway. The movie is based in Arendal in the south meaning they where not Sami people and would not use these shoes. And Arendal does not have reindeer the same northern Norway does so they do not use them but rather other animals. Also as mentioned the people who did use these shoes are Sami and did not use the bunad but rather they’re very different kofte (google it if interested). So you would never see these shoes and the bunad in combination.
And also the bunad was only for special occasions.
the shoes she wore in the movie remind me of the shoes we wear now with a bunad. Exept for the fact that they are tall. so i agree with you
Wow that's really cool
Thank you for saying that, i was about to do the same. Sami clothing and bunad are two very different things
So true... And bunad shoes does have heels, so in that way Anna's shoes are accurate ish. They should've been lower, had a more round/squarish tip and a silver buckle.
It's funny how a professional would know things foreigners don't, but you could just go ask a native person and find the information that way instead... and even better...
Its really funny for Norwegians to hear how she says the Norwegian words like: bunad, skjorte, skjørt, strømpe😂
Me too haha
Lol it’s also called a stakk when it comes to the bunad not a skjørt
Det er virkelig det!!!!
Ja😂 yes😂
jep
We didn’t wear Sami shoes
.......the Sami did...
That's what she said?
@@toastysock Then why did she apply their traditional clothes to Anna.
hol up i thot sami was a finnish thing
@@dnsoulx naaah they live in Norway/Sweden/Finland and Russia too I think, stereotypically in that area, above the polar circle
Am I the only Norwegian that’s shocked by how wrong they are about a lot of the facts in the vid?
I’m dissapointed, but not surprised haha
Sa ho ikke noe om at Norge er en del av Sverige på 1800 tallet? Eller tar jeg helt feil nå?
Crazy cat lady Yas «Den svensk-norske union fra 1814 hadde vært lite mer enn en personalunion med felles konge. Det vil si at Norge hadde en høy grad av indre selvstyre, men det var Sverige som sto for utenrikspolitikken til begge landene.» dette er hvertfall det som står på snl, MEN det står jo her at selv om vi var i union med Sverige så var det for det meste bare utenrikspolitikken som ble delt aka vi var basically et eget land under hele unionen som betyr at det er helt urelevant om Norge var i union med Sverige eller ikke
@@sunii2939 takk for svaret, men vi hadde egen konge?
Crazy cat lady Yas vi hadde felles konge under unionen
This is really interesting and detailed, but just one note : please stop saying "animators", their job is to ANIMATED haha. Here we would be talking about either props/clothing designers or character designers, just designers in general. Just like an actor isn't responsible for their outfits, neither are animators.
Uhhm, as a norwegian I could tell you that most of the stuff you talked about Anna wearing is still normal to wear today (mostly on Norway's national day) and the shoes you said Anna would wear are Sami, and Anna and Elsa are not Sami.
Pluss the Sami shoes are called skaller and would never have been worn in combination with a bunad, with a bunad you would wear bunadsko which are shoes made specifically for wearing with a bunad.
But other than that, great video!
She also misrepresented corsetry practices in general. Which was done in another video as well. It’s frustrating.
What?
*hires a fashion historian* *completely neglects looking into the history of corset lacing and continues perpetuating the myth that tight lacing was "The Way" *
Polina K Preach
Polina K yeah she was like So TIghT ThEy CoUlDnT BreAtHE tHEy WanTeD tHE smAlLEsT wAist but it was more of adding padding to the bust and waist and then some tight lacing to create the illusion of a small waist. Especially in the 19 century this was the fashion. She just played into the stigma of corsets And you can tell she didn’t really put much research into the corset side of things
exactly! Very few engaged in tightlacing, most of the silhouettes were achieved with a combination of things. (Women not being able to breathe was a combination of unfamiliarity with corsets, heavy dresses and fabrics, and the fact that wearing a corset requires an entirely different way of breathing! (Upward, intead of in and out! I still breathe this way, it's very productive for me as a former asthma sufferer.)
THANK YOU. Considering she calls herself a "fashion historian" I was very disappointed.
I was just thinking that and then I read your comment!
There are so many inacuracess here and it is really hurting my heart. She talks about the Bunad like it WAS something they wore, when it still is something norwegians were... And omg just so many wrong assumptions...
Really? For every day?
@@carolynworthington8996 no, bunads are modernised folk clothes worn for confirmations, graduations and national days. They’re based on what people wore everyday in the country during Norway’s romantic period but aren’t completely historically accurate
Animators don't design the characters (and their costumes). They """just""" make the characters move (believe me, I'm one).
So stop referring to the creative teams behind these costume choices as animators when they're most likely to be concept artists, character designers, etc.
Yeah form what I’ve heard the animators just animate what they’re told to animate while other people have different jobs to create what the costumes look like and where it take solace so I believe you
Yeah. The animators might suggest a few changes to make animating easier (or because their program has an error) but that's about it.
People: That's not accurate.
Disney: you seriously gonna tell us that?
Am i the only one who cringed when she said that "Tight lacing was a common practice"?
Nope
I did too. The crinoline made the waist looks smaller. Tight lacing is a myth. No one tight laced,it was all photoshopped by using white paint at the time.
Also when she said "corsets were used for hundreds of years". Corsets were newish at this time. Stays were used up until corsets came into use during the early-mid 1800's
@@curehead9877 Actually, women did in fact, tight lace sometimes. But all the same, it was simply an illusion. Wide shoulders and several layers of petticoats made for a severe hourglass shape, but the waist measurements only went down a few inches. I suggest watching some of Bernadette Banner's videos on this topic; it's really interesting!
@@katharinajohnson2761 Tight-lacing did happen, but it was rare and mostly done by wealthy, upper-class women. Empress Sissi of Austria-Hungary (in the late 1800s, early 1900s, I think) had a 16 inch waist at one point.
well, if Arendelle is in Arendal, then she would wear an Arendal bunad
the one you made for her, the "historical correct" is a mix between mant different types of bunads
so, this isn't correct either
Also, when she's saying
"strømper", "skjorta" and "väska" it sounds like she's saying professional terms, but she's just saying "socks", "shirt" and "bag" in norwegian xD
Whoa the top comment is exactly like your comment's second paragraph
Tight lacing is a myth - or mostly a myth. Much like fashion magazines today, the mythical 18 inch waist is more mention in passing in these ads. This Fashion Historian, should know this.
Totally! I expected better.
@@lizetriquelme Agreed!!
Imagine little girls wearing this dress if they did it accurately
needkhun lmao
Lol
Lmfao 😂😂
It isn’t accurate though
It’s fun to hear her pronounce some of the norwegian words like: skjorte, veske, bunad, skjørt. She didn’t pronounce them correctly, but that’s fine. And the skirt, or «skjørt» is called «stakk» on the bunad :)
Yeah, I don't get why she doesn't just use the english names also why does she not mention "søljer" at all?
She does mention Søljer, but she don't pronounce it correctly, and could be hard to catch@@mariaakaannie6138
@@hannahkisen5995 Ah okay, I must have missed it then
Glamour: *Makes "100 years of" videos*
Us: HIRE A REAL FASHION HISTORIAN!!!
Glamour: *hires real fashion historian for frozen video*
Us: Now you have Norwegian inaccuracies... ;n;
@J .S exactly oml
@J .S lmao boo boo that the most arrogant and idiotic comment I've ever read. sit down hun
J .S this chick literally has a job being a historian, she probably knows more about than you and ten minute video can’t really represent that, and she’s given a script
The
Theta co ptts
Anna was wearing stockings at the coronation, you saw them when she got knocked into the boat. I assume she removed them after trekking through the snow in slippers.
"So this dress is total fantasy"
I'm sorry lady but the whole movie is a fantasy, there isn't any girl in this world who had an ice power and create an eternal winter by stepping on the river/sea.
You're totally missing the point 🙄
@@TheDaniela3112 I'm sorry if I made you upset, but it's my opinion
@@TheDaniela3112 It's still true though.
@@TheDaniela3112 but not entirely wrong tho lol
Y'all know this is a video analysing a movie for fun right?? Y'all know that we and the fashion expert in the video are aware that it's a movie, but still want to hear about how historically accurate it is, right? Killing the fun
“Character Designer” and “Animator” are 2 separate jobs on an animated feature film production.
I like Frozen dress very much 😍😍😍😍
@@sunitakunwar3795 I'm not into women's clothing/fashion at all, but I love the various dresses and outfits in the _Frozen_ movies, too.
Strømpe is literally just norwegian for "stockings" lol..
What!! Combine the Sami shoes (skaller) with bunad???? Thats really insensitive to the cultural supression of the Samis done by Norwegians and not factually accurate at all.
As an Australian who knows very little in this topic, even I thought it was strange that a Norwegian princess would wear Sámi shoes
... actually corsets weren't that tight..... they could breathe, that was a stereotype made in today's society....
Also full corsets should not have been worn under bunads traditionally
@Niña Mala www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/everything-you-know-about-corsets-is-false/ io9.gizmodo.com/no-corsets-did-not-destroy-the-health-of-victorian-wom-1545644060
@Niña Mala as well as all the research Burnadette Banner did, and more but I don't want to search through all my history to find all the pages.
@J .S they should have hired a native fashion historian
I still don't know why they hate gowns,dress,skirts etc.
There’s a singing snowman and a 21 year old queen who turns July into December in a land that doesn’t exist and ur fixating on a dress with long sleeves😂
Because thats the whole point of the video.... to talk about the fashion.
Anna: is wearing reindeer skin boots
Sven: looks at her
Kristof: “Im breaking up with you“
Aaah im Norwegian and trust me you’d need long sleeves in winter! ❄️ It’s always as funny hearing people try to talk Norwegian! You would not wear a bunad if it was not a important event! Only samiis wore those shoes Anna wore!
But it was summer during her coronation.
@@kristin123a The dress was made to look like a bunad too though, which was ignored in this video. And if it's based around a bunad then it would have long sleeves no matter what. Pluss Norway it can be summer in Norway and you could still need sleeves, especially if you live near a Fjord and the larger mountains because the winds bloew really heavily.
MariaakaAnnie - Cosplay well, Arendelle and Arendal is in the south of Norway so in would in fact be okay to not have sleeves. Anyway, you use a linen shirt under the bunad and linen gives very little warmth. The jacket or cape is what keeps you warm. And her coronation dress is obviously not made to look like a bunad anyway.
Ingri A Norway isn’t very warm in the summer. I live south in Norway, and there’s around 68 degrees in the summer.
Panala når du har på et gigantisk skjørt i ull klarer du deg helt fint med korte ermer på kjolen din på Sørlandet, jo.
Ok Idk about Norway specifically but corset lacing was never meant to be tightly laced until the late 1890s/early 1900s. Even then it was not common in the slightest and was usually seen as not practical
Yep, tightly laced corsets were never very popular in scandinavia, they were mainly mainland europe thing.
NORWAY DIDNT EVEN USE CORSETS WITH BUNADS! The vest is very solidly structured with front lacing to keep stuff in place AND ALSO IT IS ATTACHED TO THE SKIRT, ITS NOT A TWO PIECE
Well except the victorian era cause back then queen Victoria's dressing style became famous around women, there were countless cases were women were suffocated or stabbed by their corsets
@@Siseja wow chill
@@shaunyjimenez9637 DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
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Oh great you hired someone who knows what they’re doing.
Now can you hire a decent artist?!
My thoughts exactly untill she started with the reindeer shoes😂. She really messed up with that.
exactly!!!! the artist seems like she knows what's shes doing but like,,,,,,,,,,,I'm not a professional, but I think I could have done betterr
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Well, did she though? Cringed my way through the video after the bunad part.....
I don't think Elsa should wear shorts sleeve, she wear long sleeve cause she's afraid her power would scared everyone I don't think they watch the movie like seriously 🙄
@Hedgehog yah it could be so cause when she was about to freeze annas heart it came out of everywhere
@Hedgehog oh
Yeah. Not everything has to be accurate to the stuff in our world when there's freaking magic and talking snowmen.
@Hedgehog any skin exposed will release ice.
@Hedgehog well yeah. But her face doesnt produce ice. If she did then her face would be frozen (Pun not inteded)
this is an animated movie where a woman has ice powers. its not exactly gonna be accurate.
I know that. It's pure entertainment, the way that some people like looking for easter eggs in movies or some people like to come up with fan theories. It's just part of the enjoyment of these movies, dissecting them for accuracy.
Nobody said it was going to be.
Many people in Norway dress up in bunads for the 17th of May, which is our national day, so we still use them
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Or for Christmas
Og konfirmasjon. Idk hva det er på engelsk da
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how come glamour can’t even get a “fashion historian” that’s correct. I mean it’s much better than most of their fashion history videos, but still, she got quite a few things wrong.
Question minus the regional thing with the shoes for Anna, what did she get wrong?
Historical fashion is hard to get 100% right a lot of the time. Fashion trends constantly change and people have different accounts as to what was popular vs what people actually wore. Then there is the issue of what was worn based on wealth, social status, region, and religion.
It bugs me too. You can just... leave it out. Especially the stuff about the tight lacing. Sigh. It’s frustrating.
@@dominiquethomas3775 I don't know anything about fashion, but I'm fairly certain that basing the totality of style at the time period on one image of a queen, and then filling in the gaps with British fashion isn't correct.
@@snowangel7980 Exactly what I felt too! It bothered me so much, British fashion does not equal Scandinavian fashion...
@@dominiquethomas3775 its abit dumb to base the royal fashion on British and swedish royal fashion cause Norway did not like Sweden and British and Scandinavian fashion at that time was not the same.
The shoes they put on Anna was very much wrong and the shoes that is in the movie is actually more correct.
And another thing (and I am no expert mind you) I have not seen any Bunad with a corset inside it. The top part of the bunad actually works like a corset most of the time and even if the royals would have worn a corset, we did not have any royals and the people on the countryside would have never worn a corset, because it was just to impractical...
To compare Norwegian bunad is similar to German and Austrian Dindle.
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pftt.... THEY DID NOT WEAR SAMI SHOUES, the sami did!
JulieMT EXACTLY thank you
JulieMT THANK YOU
Elsa was originally going to have historically accurate dresses. Elsa's concept artwork shows Elsa in historically accurate dresses. Dark Elsa wears three historically accurate dresses.
She really didn’t have to try to pronounce all those norwegian words to sound smarter tho, cause she butchered them all and it was just a little redundant. “a shirt called shirt.” “a bag called a bag”..
s. elias she isn’t trying to be smarter she’s trying to be informative because it’s an informative video, even if she butchered them she tried her best
Jen. M. If she was trying to be informative she could have just called a shirt a shirt, because that’s literally what it is and even is directly translated as. You aren’t being “informative” by mentioning things that allready have English words for them. It would have been accurate and informative to say the words that are specific and doesn’t have a translation. But it is cringy just sitting there saying “stockings called stockings”. It’s literally just the Norwegian word for an allready pretty normal English thing. No need to speak Norwegian to describe it. If it’s about the “bunad” then yes, there doesn’t exist a name for it in English because it’s pretty special and specific for Norway. The shirts and socks? Bruh they don’t have those specific names. Dont belive me? Google Skjorte and you will just get “shirt” because that’s literally what it is. The exact same thing.
If you are trying to be informative just explain the things as what they are instead of throwing in a native languages names for it just to sound smarter. It doesn’t make you sound informative at all. It makes her sound like an idiot that have no idea what she is actually talking about.
Don't be a snot, she was trying to educate people.
PyroShayNiac you aren’t being pretty educational acting like an ignorant fool pretending that these basic things have some exotic and interesting names. More like making a fool out of yourself for not researching the translation of the words 💁🏼♀️. I mean we are totally in the wrong for pointing that out, right? 🙄
@@taigatanfan_ Uh, yeah. That's what I said.
I can't be the only one annoyed that they keep referring to traditional clothing as costumes
Costume doesn't always mean things like Halloween costumes. In this situation it means a set of clothes in a style typical of a particular country or historical period.
@@dominiquethomas3775 I know, but the immediate association for most people is Halloween or strange/weird clothes. I don't really like the connotation
Actually no, she means a set of clothes used in a movies/tv shows/commercials etc.(in this particular exam it is an animated movie, but still they have clothes on them) and she is apsolutely right. No matter the style or meaning of clothing, be it traditional clothing, uniforms of any sort or something in that lane, if used for a particular character in some production, it becomes a costume. It is not called 'Costume designer' for no reason.
@@akirasaito1551 I can see your prospectiv. But I have never heard of anyone having an issue with the term costume being used in that way. It's used so frequently in books and
conversation about traditional clothing.
same
Corsets did not exist for hundreds of years. Stays did. Corsets were invented during the Victorian period. Tight lacing was not widespread, although small waists were fashionable.
Corsets were NOT invented during the Victorian period ! And yes, it was massively widespread in Europe and in settlements ! Get your facts straight, honey ! 😂😂😂😂
@@shizukagozen777 NOT IN NORWAY THOUGH so get YOUR facts straight
@@Siseja
Well, if that person was talking only about Norway, SHE SHOULD HAVE SPECIFIED IT !
@@Siseja
Btw it's well known that the members of the european monarchies followed the fashion of the french royalty so why would Norway have had corsets only since the Victorian Era ? Does sound logical to me that all... Plus, it's not "invented", only COPIED.
@@shizukagozen777 Norway didn't have royalty or even nobility at all until the 20th century and Norway was one of the poorest countries in Europe until the 1960's. That's why
The “floral motifs” are called rosemåling
Did anyone ask you?
No.
Did I want to know?
No.
She’s not criticizing the movie or the animators itself, she was asked to look at period movies, fiction or not, and to show us what it would look like if it was purely Norway, 1840s. It’s just for content or fun. At the end, she explains why the animators made the movie the way they did, and it wasn’t a bad thin
Please get a new artist for this, just please.
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We need Karolina Żebrowska and Bernadette Banner here!
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Hey, you know, the Norwegian isn't perfect, but A plus for effort. :)
when she says things like "short-a" watch every scandi shudder. Skjorta is much more like an english "sh" crossed with a kind of "whoo" sound imo
You can't really expect someone who doesn't speak the language to pronounce it perfectly
Rayn K but the video literally calls her a fashion historian, she _should_ know how to pronounce these things properly
@@c0nnorisnotreal Yeah exactly. _Fashion historian_ NOT a linguist. Unless you're a total asshat, no one chastises foreigners for having a thick accent, so it's not exactly right to do that to her. Chances are, she's probably not even learning the language at all.
@@c0nnorisnotreal thANK you
Rayn K The Norwegian words she said in this video is just regular words that means skirts, etc. She could’ve said them in English so people watching the video can understand it better, but instead she kept on going with the Norwegian words and most importantly she can’t even pronounce it right
The bunad is still very much in use. During may 17th, Norways national day, if you go out to the streets, that's what the majority of people are wearing. There are different bunads for each municipality, in different colours and embroideries. Getting a bunad isn't something you just to the supermarket for, either. Only ceritfied people can make them, they are hand sewed, and can cost up to 50 000 norwegin kroner (5 700 dollars)
THAT NORWEGIAN PRONOUNCIATION THO..... *cringes in Scandinavian*
Can you blame her? She either said them on the spot or has never heard anyone (at least a Norwegian) say it out loud. There have been worse pronunciation fails.
Lexi The Queen Bean But she literally didn’t need to say the Norwegian, they’re all just basic terms that could’ve been translated
Nice video, but the fact that that kinda shoes were worn by the Sámi people does not mean that they were worn by everyone in Norway. The Sámi people are the native people of Northern Europe and they're not the same as just regular Norwegians or Swedes or Finns. They're of a different ethnicity and they have their own culture, not to mention they have been treated rather horribly by the governments and the people of the countries they live in. I don't know if the use of shoes similar to theirs spread to the non-Sámi people in Norway, but if it did, saying Anna, who is not Sámi, should wear them, is incorrect. And quite disrespectful! You wouldn't make 19th century Americans wear native clothing unless they themselves were natives, would you? It's the same thing.
Again, I might be wrong and the style if shoe might've spread to the non-Sámi population, but you did not mention that in this video, and thus I'm just telling you this thing here.
Yeah, the shoes mentioned would not be worn by non Sàmi-people.
Not to mention they're still worn by sami people today and the way the video talked about them made them sound archaic.
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Kom hit till kommentarsfältet för att påpeka detsamma! Mycket olycklig formulering av Glamour; den förbiser helt hur marginaliserade det samiska folket har varit (och fortfarande är) i våra länder...
Thank you! I am sami and have those shoes, and I also have a bunad, but I would NEVER combine the two. It would not be accepted to use those shoes to a bunad by Norwegian people nor the sami people. And seeing that Norwegians started assimilating samis in the 1850s they would NEVER EVER wear sami apparel.
They did it well for a design that's supposed to sell dolls and costumes though
It makes sense that Anna's boots weren't winter boots because it was supposed to be summer. It was Elsa's powers being out of control that made it so cold.
I think the reason why they didn’t take the full historically accurate route is because animation would be really hard having to deal with long hair, giant dresses, and capes.
The drawings are not professional.
Everything seemed right to me except for the boots- he wouldn’t have had winter boots in the store because it was summer when everything turned frozen. Not trying to sound critical just an observation!
the trading post was like a "department store". they had only one in stock, kind of like when stores have so little winter coats in the summer but if you look around hard enough you might find one in a clearance aisle or something. that was the concept they were going for, i think.
The bodices in Norway when you were a bunad actually depends on where you are in Norway
Guys relax. Yes, it’s just a movie and yes, she’s checking the historical accuracy of a movie based on a fairytale, but there’s no need to be like “Oh she said this dress is pure fantasy in a movie with a talking snowman!” This video is just for fun and educational purposes.
On a side note: am I only one who’d wear Elsa’s chemise and drawers at 1:36 as pjs? They look SUPER comfy and cute.
I think you should check out some of the concept art for the movie. I remember some of the original outfits created in the old character designs showed a bit more accuracy in norwegian dresses and fashion in the time period set in the movie.
Nobody:
Literally no one:
Glamour: “ThAtS iNcOrReCT”
00:50 I deadass thought they were going to talk about the historical accuracy of Elsa’s ice stress and I was going to comment how ridiculous that was until this point 🤦🏾♀️
Did she say “something called horse hair”??????? Do people not typically know what horse hair is?
As a non-native English speaker who’s been learning for close to two decades, I can tell you I only found out earlier this year, and I’d be surprised if any of the people I know who didn’t study fashion knew themselves.
Edit: Wait did you think they were talking about a horse’s hair, as in the actual animal’s? Because in that case, I’m afraid to tell you that’s *not* what that term means.
😂😂 the truth
It's not actual horse hair.
@@toastysock She said that to put pressure on the fact that it's not actually horse hair, since a lot of people watching this most likely doesn't know that.
If it's not actual horse hair what is it ?
I've been binge watching all of these historically accurate fact-check videos for an hour now and I'm in love with this! Please keep making these! These are so cool, unique, and entertaining!!
Anna wasn’t wearing socks bc she was in a coronation during summer before she got those clothes in the cabin
I love these new “opinions you didn’t know you needed” videos that have been popping up on my recommended
“So this dress is a total fantasy”
*Ah yes but of course, the trolls, the living snowman, the girl with ice powers and the giant snow monster aren’t*
She wasn't expecting the movie to be realistic, it's the conclusion of the video.
I would argue that Elsa was wearing long sleeves to make absolutely sure that she didn't accidentally touch anyone.
Also since she was so isolated, she probably didn't care much about the current fashion.
the coronation outfit you drew looks so much better then the movie and so does anna
i am going to be completely honest , Frozen Creators/ Disney did not do anything wrong. They designed it how they wanted to , so I don't think that this should be a thing.
Nobody:
Glamour: tHiS iSnT aCcuRatE
"skjorta"? You mean skjorte? BIG difference.Unless you mean THAT shirt and not just shirt.
I love this girl, but the second she said corsets make it hard to breathe I wanted to die. Corsets aren’t uncomfortable! They are the precursors to bras and the only people who would lace tightly we’re noble teenagers trying to get attention at important events! Corsets are not evil!!!
I certainly don't expect to see historically accurate costumes in a movie based on fantasy.
I always thought Anna was the younger frumpy sister with all the personality!! But Disney kind of dumbed her down for the last frozen movie!
This was fun! I would love to see more of these videos for other Disney princesses.
i love these!!! please make more
I am Norwegian and when she tried to say "skjorte" i was like: Oof....
Because this was what i heard: "sjårta"
It honestly would have been better if she just said it in English.
Anna's outfit in Frozen Fever is much more accurate (but still not entirely), I think.
Being Norwegian listening to a historian trying to sound smart in my language.