The House if Worth fashion company made a dress using gold and silver thread throughout to make something called The Peacock Dress. However, it was a custom dress for a queen’s party after her coronation. I think the dates Belles good dress and the peacock dress are a bit far a part, but I’d have to look it up and edit this when I find it.
they forgot her pockets. pockets were tied on the waist above the bum roll, and all of her petticoats would have holes in them to access these pockets. poorer women didnt have many petticoats on either. if anyone wanted to know, the stays are put on after the chemise so you wouldn't sweat on your expensive textiles. white linens were reserved for upper classes who could afford to keep them white.
Literally how in the world did they know when the story took place seriously. They're saying she was supposed to be wearing something super duper fancy when she still a commoner who wasn't Royal until she married into it.
@@KaiKailuv Exactly, and assuming its in the time period they said, even if she was royalty/very wealthy or suppose to be wearing something fancy, they still got a lot of it wrong
Meanwhile every single historical costumer just cringed when she called the stays “corsets” (corsets being the Victorian equivalent/evolution of stays) and said that 18th century fashion isn’t comfortable. If it’s been made right and fits you properly, it’s comfortable. Otherwise it wouldn’t be worn! Thousands of historical costumers today wear historically accurate, elaborate gowns and underpinnings with comfort and ease.
I also think most of the video is much ado about nothing and I personally believe its intended to be set in the 19th century anyway...the staircase is carpeted! Its clearly Napoleon III style... but all in all, its a cartoon so who really cares? If they didn't simplify it, it wouldn't be iconic.The yellow dye nonsense was just too ridiculous to entertain, shes clearly never saw a peter lely portrait where nearly everyone are in marigold gowns...
And the comfort thing- I totally agree. People say that stays and corsets can't possibly be comfortable, and same with the many layers of clothing. No one I tell believes that corsets don't break bones and cause suffocation, you create the dramatic waist by making everything else bigger. They compare elaborate gowns to sweatpants. Of course sweatpants are more comfortable, but it doesn't make gowns uncomfortable
@@tobywood00 the corset was meant to support the garment bellow the waist like suspension for your car because of all the layers. It was for weight distribution and structural integrity.
I just want to say that just because there’s aristocracy does not mean it’s pre-revolutionary France simply by the presence of Aristos. So it isn’t necessarily the 18th century. It could very well be the 1850’s. There were three empires post revolution as well as the July monarchy of the bourbon restoration. France has really only been an actual republic since the turn of the 20th century after the fall of the Third Napoleonic Empire
This is exactly what I was thinking to myself the whole video. Literally France went back to a constitutional monarchy when conservatives took over after the Reign of Terror.
I'd like to add that both the Beast and Gaston wear jackets with cropped fronts and long tails. That's a trend in male fashion that starts somewhere around the 1790s with cut away fronts like Lefou's jacket and only gets more dramatic through the 1800s. So yeah the book might have been published in the mid 1700s but that movie certainly wasn't made to look it.
@@Alexfolledemoi The original was fairy tale, first published in half of the 18th century. Not set in any certain era. Dresses shown in the video is the second half of the century. And last but not least, Disney definitely not set costumes in that era, because looks so 1840s!
Well, they could've just lookup when the book was set(1740s) and based it on that. Also, the aristocracy still (officially)existed AFTER the revolution. The kings who ruled after Louis XVI created new aristocrats. There are still French aristocrats at the present but they don't officially exist because there is no monarch.
If you would like to see a better artistic representation Claire Hummel did a series on historical princess a number of years ago: www.deviantart.com/shoomlah/gallery/29648049/Historical-Princesses
Disney: Nobody: Glamour: ThAt's Not aCurRaTe! Actual Fashion Historians: Half of your 'corrections' were incorrect. Nobody Else: Disney: *puts Emma Watson in a prom dress and makes massive profits*
Bluebird same here, people are just so mad because they love their original fairy tales too much, I mean I’m not saying Disney is better than the original source materials, I mean there are other adaptions of fairy tales out there, not just Disney.
Natalie Norvell good question. For me, I didn’t feel like they were surprised, most movies in Disney aren’t that well historically accurate. I felt like the enjoyed talking about it since it is their career maybe they’d feel quite animated talking about their passion.
Fantasy elements of a story doesn’t mean they can just void reality completely. Also the video is more what it would look like not that the original was bad because of its historical inaccuracy.
I'm not even a Fashion Historian (taught myself some stuff based on books), but I literally cringed when I heard " corset ". It's called STAYS. Considering the puffy hair, since we don't know in which decade the movie takes place, I'd rather say that the hair would be tied in a late 1760s - early 1770s updo, when hair was high but not too much compared to the second half of the decade. Yet, I'm sorry again but... STAYS. STAYS. STAYS.
C'mon you're really nitpicking. Sure, they were called stays then, but functionally, they're the same as corsets. It seems pretty petty. Can't comment on the illustrator though.
You would think that she would know the difference between a corset and a stay. You'd think they would teach that pretty early but it's often a mistake people make. I only learned this recently as well so it's easy to mix up but 🤷🏻♀️ Also, pannier's usually actually folded down. So when a woman went through doors, she would simply fold them down and they would go back up. They weren't super stiff.
Yes, at first panniers were not made to be collapsible, but after a few years women realized they needed to sit in carriages, so they became collapsible. They were also often made of whalebone ( baleen) , which she did not mention.
i feel as though , in this one belle’s “ commoner “ dress seemed pretty accurate for her character. she wasn’t really looking for love, so didn’t feel the need to wear a bonnet/hat. and stockings could’ve been to expensive for her or were just to uncomfortable since she really only went out to read and get books. as you could see, they wanted to convey her personality like that, bc other women in the town wore exactly what was ‘ accurate ‘ for that time period.
First of all, don’t speak for me and also I’m sure y’all either did research or are just copying everyone else just make it seem you’re smarter than the average idiot
Tell that to the critics who kinda slammed Pocahontas even when Disney made it crystal clear before it came out it wasn’t going to come even close to her actual story. One tiny yet rather important detail is what made Pocahontas sadly the most underrated movie of the Renaissance. Though to be fair its one of those movies you appreciate and enjoy more when you’re older because it dealt with more mature themes than most Disney movies, and unfortunately its humor was mostly on Meeko and Flit’s antics and Wiggins being the unevil and slightly stupid manservant who was the purest character (aside Pocahontas) in the entire movie
The only thing I have to say is that the corsets were called "stays" or a "pair of bodies" and were slightly different than corsets. I really liked the video, though!
The yellow dress looks like a quinceañera dress. I like the blue dress though, even if it’s not 100% historically accurate it gives a good character impression and it at least gives a 18th century vibe.
@@brandielee7971 it was already wromg, it was way too modern of a fabric and way too bright yellow. It looked like a prom dress. Wearing a corset would not have saved it. Its sad bc the costumes for the beasts ball in the beginning of the film were so detailed and accurate
Also if Emma Watson didn’t want to wear a more restrictive dress because she wanted Belle to be more active in the final battle they should have just done another costume change. In the 1991 film Belle wears the blue dress and not the yellow one during the final scene anyway. They could have had a beautiful rococo style gown for the ball scene then have her change into a sensible riding outfit, instead of trying to split the difference with a prom dress that she still can’t freakin’ run in.
Don't forget that the prince and everyone in the castle were cursed for ten years, so the time period in which Beauty and the Beast takes place may be a bit non-linear! Wonderful video! I would love to see more of these videos for other Disney Princesses!
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 It's not mandatory since the centralized government made by Louis XIV controls the country, and the "libertinage" made several illegitimate childs...
Belle wasn't that interested in the powdered wig fashion business. She didn't quit her furry prince to love another guy disguised in the court games apparel imagined by the Sun King.
Seriously, the expert isn't an expert: it's a body or stays, not a corset, and it wasn't possible to tight lace. The material doesn't allow it and this didn't happen until corsets began (1830s ish). UGH!
RaspberryBrownies ALSO!! They called the Shape of Belle’s dress wrong when the comical shape DID exist in the 1700’s, they shape shifted dramatically across this period, the conical shape came later. They’re not accurate at all lmao
@@fayetaylor6293 hmm I don't agree with you... The shape that the historian talks about was extremely popular with Marie Antoinette, she was the trendsetter. The shape of Belle's dress is not really accurate, it seems like they drew it that way so the dance scene could look better.
It bothers me that a historian groups and entire century together when decades and years vary within that century. Fashion wasn't the same the entire century. So poorly done.
Theres also a good chance the yellow dress was dated in style because it was already in the castle. The style more closely resembles early 20th century styles
Well it's also a fairy tale. No Disney movies is actually set in a specific time but is instead based on a time period and even then is altered to appeal to a modern audience.
This was really hard to read so you might wanna revise that or I might just be stupid... anyways do a fact check on the actual story before pounding them
Because belle's dress was inspired by audrey hepburn. The animators of disney used audrey as inspirationin making disney belle and also aurora of sleeping beauty :)
Sleeping Beauty was released in 1959, toward the end of the height of Audrey Hepburn's fame/movie career. But Beauty and the Beast was released in 1991, when AH was in her sixties and just two years before she passed away.
For everyone saying that "Belle's weird, and ahead of her time so she shouldn't be accurate!" Let's be realistic here, I understand the dress is provided by magical talking furniture and that Belle is an outlier, but the fact remains B&B was one of the first princess movies of the Renaissance and. The one most clearly trying to fit the formula of the old ones. Her design was based on Katherine Hepburn, a 40's icon. That is the only reason Belle is wearing a "ye olde peasant dress" via the 1940's and a spectacular ball gown of the one-crinoline-fits-all variety. Simply because they wanted something swishy. Belle's an outlier, cool. She doesn't want to be wearing a basket on her hips or powder her hair - fine. Slap her in a regency up do and a robe anglaise. The Robe a la Anglaise was am 18th century style commonly worn in England. It had a fitted back (as opposed to the pleated back popular in France - the Robe Francaise) and a more streamlined skirt silhouette, usually just supported on a bum roll. There was plenty of swish and you could even conceivably do a Vienese Waltz in one. Why is that so hard?
Because it didn't fit the look of the character and wasn't the visual story telling they wanted. What's the fun in a fairytale if you have to ruin it with only allowing historical accuracy. It's fantasy. Let the fashion be fantastical.
@@vilwarin5635 The staircase is also carpeted...which would be 19th century not 18th. The furniture that is alive is also more 19th century, the 'clock' character looks more like a 19th century boule Napoleon III style clock than any 18th century rococo clock I've ever seen. Its definitely meant to be set in the 19th century.
The facts is the BatB movie works not like in pre-revolutionary era, but in a post-revolutionary era, in the last five years of the XVIIIth Century. In facts, it's proven that Belle wears one of Romy Schneider's Sissi's Yellow Dress, predicting the fashion of XIXth Century, with more simplicity.
Just sort of realized Belle's first song is her walking around the town singing about how much it sucks. That's probably why they think she's weird and hate her.
Belle didn't exactly have the most trendy gown laying around. It should be taken into consideration that any garment worn would have been at least a decade old because that is the fashion available to the memories of those hooking her up in the dress or in general.
You can't take this movie seriously. 18th century France, but they know the Eiffel tower? France only had one king, there were no princes and castles everywhere you looked. Dukes, perhaps, but if one of them had been enchanted the people who worked on his land would have wondered why no one was governing them any more. Besides: the story develops over a few weeks while three seasons change? And: Belle is supposed to be an intelligent, independent "modern" girl, she wants adventure, and in the end she simply gets married? I still love the movie. But it's veeery incongruous. :-)
Vicvic W maybe she was trying to make it easier for the viewer to understand? But either way, I’m sick of ppl acting like women couldn’t walk through doors back then.
@@dove4881 It's not hard to just quickly say that stays aren't a corset. The viewer could then go research on their own into the nuances. Besides, people hear corset and think oppressive tightlacing. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that stays were a support garment, that people liked to wear. We need to dismantle misinformation, not propagate it.
April, I love your podcast Dressed and am so glad you mentioned this TH-cam video in a recent episode as I like seeing my podcast hosts to connect with them. Thank you for such a great podcast!
They would've been called stays, and clothing throughout history was actually quite comfortable if it was made right and fit you correctly, no different than normal clothing.
Fun fact, Belle actually looked more accurate in the original drawings for the movie when they were still planning to go for something closer to the original story. If you look at the behind the scenes storyboards you'll see silouettes fitting the 18th century more than the final looks.
Really enjoying this series. I have watched three in a row, Titanic, Frozen and now this one and every one i ave not only enjoyed, but have learnt alot about fashion, culture, royalty of the past. Well done. Lookin forward in seeing more.
It's not called a corset, it's called stays or a pair of bodies in the 18th century. That term doesn't appear until a whole century later. I hate it when academics talk to us like we're stupid.
Actually the clothing was made out of very thin fabric, which was also very comfortable may I add. So you wouldn’t be sweating so much! Also this video is kind of inaccurate so it makes it seem weirder than it actually is.
You would think that a fashion historian would call the undergarments by there correct names... the thing she called a corset was actually called a pair of stays.... Very different to a corset, which was called so in an entirely different century. And by the way, where are all the pockets?!?! When did I go into and alternate universe where pockets didn't exist in the 18th century!?!?
It actually helps your body heat. For summer there would be lighter and more breathable fabrics. So it wasn't as hot as you think it was. And for winter there would be more heavier and more warmer fabrics e.g cotton.
Umanshi Sarkar they didn’t use their fans as fans most of the times, at balls wealthy young women would use fan movements to indicate whether they were interested in a male without having to do it out in the open (especially if the parents were arranging a marriage wtc)
Ok i have a few things to say about this 1. I am no professional so I have no idea what she is saying is accurate 2. Who cares?! Beauty and the Beast is a great Disney story and it doesn’t matter if her dresses are a century wrong because kids who watch won’t even know what a century is.
people saying she's lumping too much of a time period together... fashion used to change much slower than it does now. I took fashion history classes in college and read 4 books and they a lot of times it is lumped together in a century rather than a decade. It doesn't start to became a decade to decade until about the 1900s tbh. so.
Well, I don't know if every single historical fact in this video it's true, but it apears that most of the people in the comment section are fashion historian just like the woman in the video, for God's sake you guys... Glamour, please, just continue to make this videos with the others princessess and historical movies, it's amazing!
I don't mean to be rude, however, while most people in the comments section of this video are almost certainly not fashion historians, much of what she said was inaccurate on multiple levels. In addition to that, It only takes a quick google search to find accurate information about what was commonly worn during that era, and much of her additional historical notes were also inaccurate. She also never mentioned "conspicuous consumption" which was a major theme throughout most of history, and was a definitive marker of the upper-classes.
Because it is in fact bad? I could do something similar in Microsoft Paint in ten minutes after two bottles of wine. And I'm not that great in digital drawing.
Lindatjuhhh in all of the videos they use the exact same pose and the wrinkles on the dress shouldn’t look like that. The hair is actually pretty well draw and so are some details on the dress like the bow. But still, the way the wrinkles are draws just isn’t how wrinkles on an actual dress look like. The wrinkles just make it look like a muddled mess, almost like it’s melting.
Disney princess designs are in almost no way intended to be historically accurate. They’re meant to be fantastical and campy with subtle hints of history. These videos are about as logical as taking drag queen fashion and analyzing how it’s not accurate to everyday women’s wear. She says it perfectly at 6:33.
ITS NOT A CORSET!!!! ITS STAYS!!!! Corsets were not invented until the 1800s!! Please get your facts straight. If you truly a fashion historian you would have known this!
I never thought of the dress as a yellow color. My mind translated the color to be gold. And cloth of gold is a real thing.
Katy C. I literally thought the same thing
The House if Worth fashion company made a dress using gold and silver thread throughout to make something called The Peacock Dress. However, it was a custom dress for a queen’s party after her coronation. I think the dates Belles good dress and the peacock dress are a bit far a part, but I’d have to look it up and edit this when I find it.
@@roefane2258 that one was actually made for Lady Curzon to celebrate the British Raj
I always thought it was yellow
Always thought it was yellow
they forgot her pockets. pockets were tied on the waist above the bum roll, and all of her petticoats would have holes in them to access these pockets. poorer women didnt have many petticoats on either.
if anyone wanted to know, the stays are put on after the chemise so you wouldn't sweat on your expensive textiles.
white linens were reserved for upper classes who could afford to keep them white.
AvalonBishop wait...
Thats how barbie can stock her magical items? :00 xD
And, speaking as someone who Wears 18th century clothes often, they're Not Uncomfortable
@@garbomode29 Then why do you wear them?
@@timetravelingpenguin cause I Love history!! And the support that stays give your back is more comfortable than wearing a bra
Glamour saying it's not accurate then proceeding to not be accurate either reminds me of confidently shouting the wrong answer in class
Literally how in the world did they know when the story took place seriously. They're saying she was supposed to be wearing something super duper fancy when she still a commoner who wasn't Royal until she married into it.
help me find jimin's jams ARMY?!?!?
@@KaiKailuv Exactly, and assuming its in the time period they said, even if she was royalty/very wealthy or suppose to be wearing something fancy, they still got a lot of it wrong
@@luz3800 YES HAHA!!
army?!
Belle's "yellow" dress is supposed to be gold. And they didn't wear corsets; they wore STAYS.
Ikr this is supposed to be a fashion historian and she doesn't even know the right terms.
You know I think she had to use certain terms like corset instead of stays coz Most people wouldn’t get it otherwise
Meanwhile every single historical costumer just cringed when she called the stays “corsets” (corsets being the Victorian equivalent/evolution of stays) and said that 18th century fashion isn’t comfortable. If it’s been made right and fits you properly, it’s comfortable. Otherwise it wouldn’t be worn! Thousands of historical costumers today wear historically accurate, elaborate gowns and underpinnings with comfort and ease.
I also think most of the video is much ado about nothing and I personally believe its intended to be set in the 19th century anyway...the staircase is carpeted! Its clearly Napoleon III style... but all in all, its a cartoon so who really cares? If they didn't simplify it, it wouldn't be iconic.The yellow dye nonsense was just too ridiculous to entertain, shes clearly never saw a peter lely portrait where nearly everyone are in marigold gowns...
THANK YOU!
And the comfort thing- I totally agree. People say that stays and corsets can't possibly be comfortable, and same with the many layers of clothing. No one I tell believes that corsets don't break bones and cause suffocation, you create the dramatic waist by making everything else bigger. They compare elaborate gowns to sweatpants. Of course sweatpants are more comfortable, but it doesn't make gowns uncomfortable
High heels aren't comfortable yet women still wear them till this day
It's not comfortable to wear layers and layers of clothes
@@tobywood00 the corset was meant to support the garment bellow the waist like suspension for your car because of all the layers. It was for weight distribution and structural integrity.
Me:(doesn’t wear a hat)
My husband: I know you’re mad, but you don’t have to do this
kaitlin Anderson lmfaooo 😂
If anyone needs to know the context 6:09.
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kaitlin Anderson 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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OH SO NOW GLAMOUR IS GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT HISTORICAL ACCURACY
Ahahhaha XD so true
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Lucía LMAOOO
I just want to say that just because there’s aristocracy does not mean it’s pre-revolutionary France simply by the presence of Aristos. So it isn’t necessarily the 18th century. It could very well be the 1850’s. There were three empires post revolution as well as the July monarchy of the bourbon restoration. France has really only been an actual republic since the turn of the 20th century after the fall of the Third Napoleonic Empire
You're right. But the AUTHOR of the book set the story in the 18th. So it is the 18th c.
This is exactly what I was thinking to myself the whole video. Literally France went back to a constitutional monarchy when conservatives took over after the Reign of Terror.
I'd like to add that both the Beast and Gaston wear jackets with cropped fronts and long tails. That's a trend in male fashion that starts somewhere around the 1790s with cut away fronts like Lefou's jacket and only gets more dramatic through the 1800s. So yeah the book might have been published in the mid 1700s but that movie certainly wasn't made to look it.
@@Alexfolledemoi The original was fairy tale, first published in half of the 18th century. Not set in any certain era. Dresses shown in the video is the second half of the century. And last but not least, Disney definitely not set costumes in that era, because looks so 1840s!
@@Alexfolledemoi Yeah but we're not discussing the book, we're discussing the Disney movie which is a lot different.
The extremely tall pouffe hair was only in fashion for a few years in the 18th century.
And only amongst the richest of people
Well aren't you then agreeing?
because everyone who was into pouffes broke their neck (natural selection)
Exactly! She compared her to Marie Antoinette.. A queen. They had very different social ranks.
They were also in the very late 18th century
I want Karolina Zebrowski to watch and correct this now
Me too
yessss meme mom needs to get on this!
s h e d i d
IKR when she call the stay a corset 🤦♀️
Yay!! Get our meme mom
every time she said “corset” my heart died a little more
Well, they could've just lookup when the book was set(1740s) and based it on that.
Also, the aristocracy still (officially)existed AFTER the revolution. The kings who ruled after Louis XVI created new aristocrats. There are still French aristocrats at the present but they don't officially exist because there is no monarch.
Next time please ask for a artist who can draw better. There are lot of talented artist out there.
thank you.
If you would like to see a better artistic representation Claire Hummel did a series on historical princess a number of years ago: www.deviantart.com/shoomlah/gallery/29648049/Historical-Princesses
Right?! As an illustrator I’m offended by how bad the art is
@@ashtonvickers928 thats mean im an artist and im not just gonna say "the art is bad fire them and get someone better cause they suck."
i bet all you can draw is a stick figure LMAO
Disney:
Nobody:
Glamour: *ThAt's Not aCurRaTe!*
Disney:
Nobody:
Glamour: ThAt's Not aCurRaTe!
Actual Fashion Historians: Half of your 'corrections' were incorrect.
Nobody Else:
Disney: *puts Emma Watson in a prom dress and makes massive profits*
accurate**
Gotchabitch ha ha
Gotchabitch 😆 lol Its still kind of interesting.
Gotchabitch Me: Idc as long as the movie is great
Fashion “historian”: a corset was worn over the chemise.
Erm no, they would of been called stays. They were not called corsets until the 19th century.
And it's a shift, not a chemise.
Stop copying other people’s comments to make it seem you’re smarter than the average idiot
Coursets are also a completely separate garment that are only remotely similar
And being laced into your gown isn't the same thing as being sewn into it
@@hokeypokeydot7818A shift and a chemise are literally the same thing.
Why are they surprised that Disney isn't accurate? The dress is made by magical taking furniture pieces...
exactly omg
I know right this video is totally nonsense what’s accurate in a fairytale? When you have to use the imagination to make it magical and original!!!
Bluebird same here, people are just so mad because they love their original fairy tales too much, I mean I’m not saying Disney is better than the original source materials, I mean there are other adaptions of fairy tales out there, not just Disney.
Natalie Norvell good question. For me, I didn’t feel like they were surprised, most movies in Disney aren’t that well historically accurate. I felt like the enjoyed talking about it since it is their career maybe they’d feel quite animated talking about their passion.
Fantasy elements of a story doesn’t mean they can just void reality completely. Also the video is more what it would look like not that the original was bad because of its historical inaccuracy.
I'm not even a Fashion Historian (taught myself some stuff based on books), but I literally cringed when I heard " corset ". It's called STAYS. Considering the puffy hair, since we don't know in which decade the movie takes place, I'd rather say that the hair would be tied in a late 1760s - early 1770s updo, when hair was high but not too much compared to the second half of the decade.
Yet, I'm sorry again but... STAYS. STAYS. STAYS.
This video isnt even all correct.
*that's not a corset.*
and you guys obviously have enough money to actually get a decent artist but that's that.
Rebekah Pena Hey! *me a seventh grader has entered the chat* 😤✊😫👊😭
ally the lave - vaisselle yeah, Thales are called stays
C'mon you're really nitpicking. Sure, they were called stays then, but functionally, they're the same as corsets. It seems pretty petty. Can't comment on the illustrator though.
Your profile picture......
They said 18th century. That’s exactly how corsets looked in the 18th century.
You would think that she would know the difference between a corset and a stay.
You'd think they would teach that pretty early but it's often a mistake people make.
I only learned this recently as well so it's easy to mix up but 🤷🏻♀️
Also, pannier's usually actually folded down.
So when a woman went through doors, she would simply fold them down and they would go back up.
They weren't super stiff.
Yes, at first panniers were not made to be collapsible, but after a few years women realized they needed to sit in carriages, so they became collapsible. They were also often made of whalebone ( baleen) , which she did not mention.
Ryan B Moore
Can y’all like stop using Wikipedia to make it seem you’re smarter than the average idiot
@@RyanBMoore she also forgot to mention pockets of any sorts including the ones that were built into panniers later on in the century
@@OppoRancisis sounds like youre just salty cause many people in the comments know their facts and you just believe a stupid video on the internet?
@Elmo Scp tato
I know that???
That's what I said???
i feel as though , in this one belle’s “ commoner “ dress seemed pretty accurate for her character. she wasn’t really looking for love, so didn’t feel the need to wear a bonnet/hat. and stockings could’ve been to expensive for her or were just to uncomfortable since she really only went out to read and get books. as you could see, they wanted to convey her personality like that, bc other women in the town wore exactly what was ‘ accurate ‘ for that time period.
I’m sure she would’ve owned stockings of sorts It would’ve been white and been able to be bleached when it is washed
Historical accuracy is the last thing people think about when watching Disney movies
It's fun to consider though
First of all, don’t speak for me and also I’m sure y’all either did research or are just copying everyone else just make it seem you’re smarter than the average idiot
Tell that to the critics who kinda slammed Pocahontas even when Disney made it crystal clear before it came out it wasn’t going to come even close to her actual story. One tiny yet rather important detail is what made Pocahontas sadly the most underrated movie of the Renaissance. Though to be fair its one of those movies you appreciate and enjoy more when you’re older because it dealt with more mature themes than most Disney movies, and unfortunately its humor was mostly on Meeko and Flit’s antics and Wiggins being the unevil and slightly stupid manservant who was the purest character (aside Pocahontas) in the entire movie
ACK SHE CALLED IT A CORSET KAROLINA MEME MOM PLEASE SAVE US
I love herrrr
This "fashion historian" needs to drop her title
THEY'RE CALLED STAYS NOT CORSETS
Haha
corsets are more of a 19th century thing.
Leave the history to the historians or better yet the people who lived in that time
It a noyes me that an 'expert' doesn't know what stays are and the difference between stays and coursets
Chill
The only thing I have to say is that the corsets were called "stays" or a "pair of bodies" and were slightly different than corsets. I really liked the video, though!
Yee
Thank you!!! That was driving me insane!
I dare you to do all the princesses
I dare them to do Pocahontas
@@kaydencedelamare3464 That movie had so many historical & geographical inaccuracies that I couldn't even focus on anything else.
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I double dare them to get it all accurate for once....
YASSSSS!!!!!
Haha next they'll say that ariels shell bra is historically inacurate as well 😂😂😂
I need them to tear apart the live-action costumes.
Same. Emma ruined the main dress because she didn't want to wear the proper undergarments
The yellow dress looks like a quinceañera dress. I like the blue dress though, even if it’s not 100% historically accurate it gives a good character impression and it at least gives a 18th century vibe.
@adrianna grow up
@@brandielee7971 it was already wromg, it was way too modern of a fabric and way too bright yellow. It looked like a prom dress. Wearing a corset would not have saved it. Its sad bc the costumes for the beasts ball in the beginning of the film were so detailed and accurate
Also if Emma Watson didn’t want to wear a more restrictive dress because she wanted Belle to be more active in the final battle they should have just done another costume change. In the 1991 film Belle wears the blue dress and not the yellow one during the final scene anyway. They could have had a beautiful rococo style gown for the ball scene then have her change into a sensible riding outfit, instead of trying to split the difference with a prom dress that she still can’t freakin’ run in.
Don't forget that the prince and everyone in the castle were cursed for ten years, so the time period in which Beauty and the Beast takes place may be a bit non-linear!
Wonderful video! I would love to see more of these videos for other Disney Princesses!
also 'a prince' who doesnt seem to be a member of a royal family is bizarre yet he 'rules' them?
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 It's not mandatory since the centralized government made by Louis XIV controls the country, and the "libertinage" made several illegitimate childs...
Belle wasn't that interested in the powdered wig fashion business. She didn't quit her furry prince to love another guy disguised in the court games apparel imagined by the Sun King.
@@dionysos46 generally not princes, usually those chilren were made dukes, counts etc
They called them corsets 👏 it's stays some where in the 1800s they called them corset
Seriously, the expert isn't an expert: it's a body or stays, not a corset, and it wasn't possible to tight lace. The material doesn't allow it and this didn't happen until corsets began (1830s ish). UGH!
RaspberryBrownies ALSO!! They called the Shape of Belle’s dress wrong when the comical shape DID exist in the 1700’s, they shape shifted dramatically across this period, the conical shape came later. They’re not accurate at all lmao
@@fayetaylor6293 hmm I don't agree with you... The shape that the historian talks about was extremely popular with Marie Antoinette, she was the trendsetter. The shape of Belle's dress is not really accurate, it seems like they drew it that way so the dance scene could look better.
The art of historically accurate Belle makes me want to cry.
It bothers me that a historian groups and entire century together when decades and years vary within that century. Fashion wasn't the same the entire century. So poorly done.
Theres also a good chance the yellow dress was dated in style because it was already in the castle. The style more closely resembles early 20th century styles
Well it's also a fairy tale. No Disney movies is actually set in a specific time but is instead based on a time period and even then is altered to appeal to a modern audience.
Well 1910 and 1990 had the exact same fashion so I disagree.
This was really hard to read so you might wanna revise that or I might just be stupid... anyways do a fact check on the actual story before pounding them
Yes it was lol they didnt have fast fashion. Garments were a big investment and you wore them as long as possible
As a person who wears this gowns, i can say they are really confortable and lavish
Because belle's dress was inspired by audrey hepburn.
The animators of disney used audrey as inspirationin making disney belle and also aurora of sleeping beauty :)
Sleeping Beauty was released in 1959, toward the end of the height of Audrey Hepburn's fame/movie career. But Beauty and the Beast was released in 1991, when AH was in her sixties and just two years before she passed away.
1:41 When as a fashion expert you confound a corset with stays...
So much THIS!
I like how she said there was no bright yellows and then showed a mustard yelloe that looked like it could be the right color for her dress
Any true historical fashion expert knows that 18th century supporting undergarment were called stays/bodies and not corsets..
I think they even said stay in another video 😂
For everyone saying that "Belle's weird, and ahead of her time so she shouldn't be accurate!"
Let's be realistic here, I understand the dress is provided by magical talking furniture and that Belle is an outlier, but the fact remains
B&B was one of the first princess movies of the Renaissance and. The one most clearly trying to fit the formula of the old ones. Her design was based on Katherine Hepburn, a 40's icon. That is the only reason Belle is wearing a "ye olde peasant dress" via the 1940's and a spectacular ball gown of the one-crinoline-fits-all variety. Simply because they wanted something swishy.
Belle's an outlier, cool. She doesn't want to be wearing a basket on her hips or powder her hair - fine. Slap her in a regency up do and a robe anglaise.
The Robe a la Anglaise was am 18th century style commonly worn in England. It had a fitted back (as opposed to the pleated back popular in France - the Robe Francaise) and a more streamlined skirt silhouette, usually just supported on a bum roll. There was plenty of swish and you could even conceivably do a Vienese Waltz in one. Why is that so hard?
Because it didn't fit the look of the character and wasn't the visual story telling they wanted. What's the fun in a fairytale if you have to ruin it with only allowing historical accuracy. It's fantasy. Let the fashion be fantastical.
This is partly incorrect but okay
You look like you get/got Cs in school so I would talk if I were you
@@OppoRancisis literally how would you even know that
DonnaTheHag *
And how would you know that? 😂
oops you had a typo! its ***mostly incorrect. Youre welcome :):)
Everyone together now: one, two, three...STAYS!!!!
Meanwhile the live action version.
Literally yellow party paper glued together on Watson
Karolina Żebrowska
would cover this a lot better, and use proper terminology. x'D
*"Honey, can I leave my cup on your pannier for a second? I'm gonna head to the loo."*
The gold dress that belle is wearing reminds me of a 1865 evening gown
Who is the artist looks like my art in forth grade no hate😂
Nobody:
Glamour: the corset was worn over the chemis
Me: *internal screaming*
and to be even a bit more accurate, the corset was called 'stays' during that time.
Stays and courses are two separate things all to get her. It wasn't that they had another name
There was royalty after the Revolution though, like 3 monarch’s reigns (or more), so this could be in the 19th century.
you know? due that her dad was working on a steam machine that idea is not that crazy
@@vilwarin5635 The staircase is also carpeted...which would be 19th century not 18th. The furniture that is alive is also more 19th century, the 'clock' character looks more like a 19th century boule Napoleon III style clock than any 18th century rococo clock I've ever seen. Its definitely meant to be set in the 19th century.
@@caligulalonghbottom2629 Now that I think about it, the Eiffel tower was inaugurated on 19th century (and is portrayed in "Be our guest" song)
But disney themselfs said it was 18th.
@@CassidyStarke Walt Disney was dead for mny many years before Beauty and the Beast was made.
The facts is the BatB movie works not like in pre-revolutionary era, but in a post-revolutionary era, in the last five years of the XVIIIth Century. In facts, it's proven that Belle wears one of Romy Schneider's Sissi's Yellow Dress, predicting the fashion of XIXth Century, with more simplicity.
Just sort of realized Belle's first song is her walking around the town singing about how much it sucks. That's probably why they think she's weird and hate her.
so interesting. This is a content we should have more on this platform!
"Video finishes"
People : "throws away giant history post cards"
Do this for other princesses please!!!
You mean, make an inaccurate video stating how inaccurate the dress of a princess is about every princess?
The yellow on the dress at 0:57 could totally be put on Belle's dress and it wouldn't look out of place.
Belle didn't exactly have the most trendy gown laying around. It should be taken into consideration that any garment worn would have been at least a decade old because that is the fashion available to the memories of those hooking her up in the dress or in general.
You can't take this movie seriously. 18th century France, but they know the Eiffel tower? France only had one king, there were no princes and castles everywhere you looked. Dukes, perhaps, but if one of them had been enchanted the people who worked on his land would have wondered why no one was governing them any more.
Besides: the story develops over a few weeks while three seasons change?
And: Belle is supposed to be an intelligent, independent "modern" girl, she wants adventure, and in the end she simply gets married?
I still love the movie. But it's veeery incongruous. :-)
Panniers were collapsible and women could EASILY walk through doors facing the front
Sooo much wrong in this video.
Corsets? F off. They are *STAYS*.
Vicvic W maybe she was trying to make it easier for the viewer to understand? But either way, I’m sick of ppl acting like women couldn’t walk through doors back then.
@@VicvicW and she could have dismantled the belief that women's clothing at the time was "oppressive"
@@dove4881
It's not hard to just quickly say that stays aren't a corset. The viewer could then go research on their own into the nuances. Besides, people hear corset and think oppressive tightlacing. I'm sure I don't have to tell you that stays were a support garment, that people liked to wear.
We need to dismantle misinformation, not propagate it.
@@sendhelp420
Exactly. How could women do day to day tasks if their clothing was specifically designed to prevent that?
smh
Corsets were actually for bosom support since bras weren’t really thing
Karolina zebrowska, where you at
April, I love your podcast Dressed and am so glad you mentioned this TH-cam video in a recent episode as I like seeing my podcast hosts to connect with them.
Thank you for such a great podcast!
1:36 baby those are stays not a corset
They would've been called stays, and clothing throughout history was actually quite comfortable if it was made right and fit you correctly, no different than normal clothing.
What’s next?
*mouse expert calls out trueness of Mickey mouse*
LOL
Lol
PLEASE MORE OF THESE. These are really helpful to me
Fun fact, Belle actually looked more accurate in the original drawings for the movie when they were still planning to go for something closer to the original story. If you look at the behind the scenes storyboards you'll see silouettes fitting the 18th century more than the final looks.
I deeply appreciate that the editor/image gatherer did not cut out the dude at 6:24 also pulling up his clearly undone trousers
Belle's dress looks more mid-1800s American fashion
i was thinking that. that bell shape is very civil war south.
I’m living for these videos! Thank you!
Actually, the fashion wasn't that uncomfortable. Try actually wearing it if you can and you'll see.
Yes, people have done this.
Actually the Yellow gown looks like Romantic dresses beetween 1830s-1850s
2:20 Well, Maurice always told Belle that she was ahead of her time 😂
Really enjoying this series. I have watched three in a row, Titanic, Frozen and now this one and every one i ave not only enjoyed, but have learnt alot about fashion, culture, royalty of the past.
Well done. Lookin forward in seeing more.
I will never complain about pulling on my skinny jeans again...well at least not without the relief that styles have evolved.
Lol at least these historical women had pockets though
It's not called a corset, it's called stays or a pair of bodies in the 18th century. That term doesn't appear until a whole century later. I hate it when academics talk to us like we're stupid.
more videos like this please
That's waaaaay to many clothes... I'd be sweating and exhausted all the time.
And waaaaaay to heavy 😂😂
Actually the clothing was made out of very thin fabric, which was also very comfortable may I add. So you wouldn’t be sweating so much! Also this video is kind of inaccurate so it makes it seem weirder than it actually is.
It was also on average colder back then.
@@nevermind2094 this is c totally unrelated but, love your user name
Clothing was made of linen, cotton, and wool
The layers were thinner so I mean, it wouldn't be as hot
You would think that a fashion historian would call the undergarments by there correct names... the thing she called a corset was actually called a pair of stays.... Very different to a corset, which was called so in an entirely different century. And by the way, where are all the pockets?!?! When did I go into and alternate universe where pockets didn't exist in the 18th century!?!?
Love these Fashion check Period vids!!
Now I know why they needed a fan, it's a must I mean look at that dress carrying thousands of layers.. I would die of sweat and heat. 😵
It actually helps your body heat. For summer there would be lighter and more breathable fabrics. So it wasn't as hot as you think it was. And for winter there would be more heavier and more warmer fabrics e.g cotton.
@@curehead9877 yeah ; I got it.
Umanshi Sarkar they didn’t use their fans as fans most of the times, at balls wealthy young women would use fan movements to indicate whether they were interested in a male without having to do it out in the open (especially if the parents were arranging a marriage wtc)
basiclarry that’s true I have a book with a little section about ‘fan language’ lol
Ok i have a few things to say about this
1. I am no professional so I have no idea what she is saying is accurate
2. Who cares?! Beauty and the Beast is a great Disney story and it doesn’t matter if her dresses are a century wrong because kids who watch won’t even know what a century is.
I am not a professonal either, but I know enough to tell you that what she said is absolutely inaccurate
I loved this analysis! :)
please more of these! this is a really great video!
This is not a corset, these are stays!!!!!
people saying she's lumping too much of a time period together... fashion used to change much slower than it does now. I took fashion history classes in college and read 4 books and they a lot of times it is lumped together in a century rather than a decade. It doesn't start to became a decade to decade until about the 1900s tbh. so.
Do Elsa next!!!!
Frozen was made in 2013 she’s not really going to have anything to say about it
Loved this! Can you please do more videos like this one?
We need to watch again the movie to see the other girls characters in the film, because remember; Belle was ahead of her time
I'd love to see more of this series!
Well, I don't know if every single historical fact in this video it's true, but it apears that most of the people in the comment section are fashion historian just like the woman in the video, for God's sake you guys... Glamour, please, just continue to make this videos with the others princessess and historical movies, it's amazing!
I don't mean to be rude, however, while most people in the comments section of this video are almost certainly not fashion historians, much of what she said was inaccurate on multiple levels. In addition to that, It only takes a quick google search to find accurate information about what was commonly worn during that era, and much of her additional historical notes were also inaccurate. She also never mentioned "conspicuous consumption" which was a major theme throughout most of history, and was a definitive marker of the upper-classes.
I’d be tired by just getting ready😂😂
Why do people think the art is bad? I personally dont think its bad 🤷🏻♀️
Because it is in fact bad? I could do something similar in Microsoft Paint in ten minutes after two bottles of wine. And I'm not that great in digital drawing.
Lindatjuhhh in all of the videos they use the exact same pose and the wrinkles on the dress shouldn’t look like that. The hair is actually pretty well draw and so are some details on the dress like the bow. But still, the way the wrinkles are draws just isn’t how wrinkles on an actual dress look like. The wrinkles just make it look like a muddled mess, almost like it’s melting.
Lindatjuhhh it’s not what I at least would call bad but they could’ve gotten a better artist.
Please keep making these that was so interesting!
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Hey, this would be a good and educational series! Can't wait for another princess/prince analysis!
Disney princess designs are in almost no way intended to be historically accurate. They’re meant to be fantastical and campy with subtle hints of history. These videos are about as logical as taking drag queen fashion and analyzing how it’s not accurate to everyday women’s wear.
She says it perfectly at 6:33.
No way!! Really??? Yes, we know. What you're missing is that it's fun to compare and check how historically accurate the movies are
this video is so interesting ! there should be a full series of this going through all the outfits of the disney princesses ~
fortunated belles outfit is the most accurate of all
It’s a child’s film which includes forms of magic so obviously it won’t be historicaly accurate
We need more videos like this!!!
ITS NOT A CORSET!!!! ITS STAYS!!!!
Corsets were not invented until the 1800s!! Please get your facts straight.
If you truly a fashion historian you would have known this!
I felt so smart until I realized that this is the kind of stuff I watch instead of studying for my test tomorrow
This is so neat!
I love these videos! Keep ‘em coming, Glamour!