Michael Stipe | Broken Record (Hosted by Rick Rubin)
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- Today we have a conversation between old friends Rick Rubin and Michael Stipe. Along with his former band R.E.M., Stipe's expert, open-hearted lyrics gave voice to the sensitive and misunderstood among us with hits like “The One I Love,” “Everybody Hurts,” and “Losing My Religion.”
After R.E.M. broke up a little over a decade ago, Stipe followed other creative pursuits like photography. But now Stipe has found his way back to music and is working on his first ever solo album.
On today’s episode, Michael plays Rick his new song, “Future If Future” produced by Andy LeMaster. Michael Stipe also talks about why he decided to record a solo album, and how he always intended to be super famous-and what it was like when that actually happened.
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I read about R.E.M. for the first time in Trouser Press Magazine! They reviewed an e.p.--Chronic Town. They mentioned the Byrds so that alone was impetus for me to check them out. I'll never forget sitting in my living room at the family console with headphones listening "Wolves Lower" for the first time. I was a huge of the Beatles and am pop radio here in Los Angeles. They sounded like no one else I had ever heard! Stipe's voice was haunting, thrilling and the band was mystical----from outer space--textures, rhythms and super hooks as well. These were instant classics to me--absolutely original. I was in college at that time and played their music for everyone I knew. I proclaimed that they (along with Blondie earlier) would eventually be one of the biggest bands on the planet. Some of them liked it, but many didn't understand this music in the swirl of 80's synth pop at the time. At that time R.E.M., the Smiths, the dBs, Lets Active, Television--these artists would shape my listening and songwriting for decades to come. Awesome interview! Inspiring and nostalgic.
one of the great American bands...what freaking great band REM was...so great...couldn't think of another word...just greatness
What REM gave weirdos living in small towns and cities across the country was a soothing voice from the outer-realms of struggle and reflection and love.
Yes. I was a weirdo living in a small town. And my what comfort it gave me.
What a wonderful summary. I could not agree more.
This is so true. I'm one of them weirdos.
Stipey was incredibly lucky to find Peter Buck and Mills and Berry. They had great musical chemistry. Peter Buck was a brilliant guitarist, Mills did great backing vocals and Berry was an excellent drummer. They were perfect together! They made great music together.
Mills secret weapon.
@@jude999 Definitely. If you listen to his bass lines, they are NEVER obvious. And yeah, he has a killer voice and great sensibility for backing vocals. Secret weapon for sure!
@@swedishchefhands00 He also wrote/played virtually all the keyboard parts too.
@@davedavid427 Nightswimming being just one of his arrangements.
He was a kucjy as they all wereel One of the most iconic voices in rock history, Yes they are a great band, especially Mills.
'Shiny happy people' was my summer song of 91 ( i was 10 )and I still adore it. I dont know what my life would have been without REM. Its the music that's playing quietly in my soul. Thank you Rick and Michael for this, enjoyed this loads xx
“It’s the music that’s playing quietly in my soul”… I love that!
@@spinswimscream25 if you turned up the volume 'In time' is playing.
REM are one of the truly great bands of our time, not many bands can create consistently brilliant albums for decades. Stipe's voice is truly amazing.
Absolutely the best interview I’ve heard from Michael Stipe and Rick Rubin that gives so much information from the past that I grew up with. Grabs your heartstrings. Love hearing every musician they mentioned that crossed their paths, brings back such good memories. Michael Stipe is one of a kind and really good in speaking and using words to express his feelings. Love REM
I've been doing Sidewinder Sleeps Tonight over and over again in Karaoke. Stipe? That dude can SING!
REM are never in the past tense for me.Vital.So many great songs, a ton.Michael's melody and lyrical crafting is unsurpassable.
How does this podcast have only 78 thousand subscribers here? Rick Rubin is a world-class interviewer.
He does not do background research.
nah he's rather boring
In an age of narcissism, Michael’s display of a healthy confidence and self belief is refreshing.
as great as he was, at singing songs, i would not say he completely declined from engaging in narcissism
Christ complex... Bonoism
In your youth, go for everything you can get, within limits. In your wisdom do anything that appeals to your personal mission to help others.
Thank you for this 🤍
I had to keep stopping this every 5-10 minutes to absorb what Michael and Rick just said, this was a really great experience. Thanks.
Great interview! The look back to Stipe’s interest in punk rock, Patti Smith and the Athens music scene of the 70’s and 80’s is a great listen. The news of a new album is great! Will be buying it. Thanks Broken Records/Rick Rubin.
Nice to hear an interview with one of my favorite performers. R.E.M. means so much to so many people, but the music speaks for itself even after all these years. Michael Stipe has that curious balance of insecurity and confidence that makes him even more interesting. It was great seeing them many times, but finally meeting each member of the band out in front of their tour buses at DAR Constitution Hall in DC was a highlight for me. Michael took the time to meet and autograph each fan's items. They were a truly unique band, with their own unique sound that still stands alone. To me his speaking voice is interesting, and of course his singing voice is certainly one of the best in rock and roll. Losing My Religion was so incredibly popular, but at the same time, such a great R.E.M. folk song in the truest sense, perhaps like, maps and legends, find the river, or king of birds, or Fretless, or Flowers of Guatemala, or Letter Never Sent, or so many others. Sure it could have been just like any of their other super great songs that nobody hears, but fortunately or unfortunately, us true long-time R.E.M. fans have to share it with the rest of the world! I enjoy recording their music, and you can find many of my cover versions on TH-cam across my various channels. Here's one:. th-cam.com/video/d1PtBwuonHw/w-d-xo.html
I'm Sorry, here's my favorite! th-cam.com/video/L9hQBZBrsWs/w-d-xo.html
Things got bad with adultlife, I like that.
Rick's voice is the most soothing sound. Very calming.
Agree .. rick is a guy I'd like to chill with in a pub .. actually I hate pubs... but u get what I mean 😄
@@MM1717mm lol
I was never a huge REM fan but can respect his artistry and humble nature. Good interview as always.
Listen to automatic for the people if you haven't.
One of my favorite REM songs “What’s the Frequency Kenneth”
The world needs REM. There are a few bright spots but Pop/Rock in general are the worst they’ve ever been.
REM’s like first 10 albums are all actual classics. Certainly everything through Automatic. Thank god for them they gave me so many beautiful experiences with music. And the inspiration is endless.
A couple years ago I kept having the thought that I wish I could hear Rick Rubin being interviewed in depth, but this is so much better than my idea.
Wonderful interview! Michael we love your super power. Please continue to use it to help Mankind. Thank you.
“Write drunk edit sober!”
rick has a way of making his interview subjects feel at such ease, a recording device is just an incidental piece to the dialogue.
I started with Document on cassette purchased at the PX in Ft.Benning. Didn't even know at the time I was in their home state. It was always the inner album songs that kept me listening to them and not the "hits". Stipe was not blessed with cathedral pipes. But he turned his voice into a strange eclectic instrument. He's really is a creative genius
Thank you so much for this beautiful conversation ❤️
I had listened to REM extensively during the 1980's and followed their evolution during that time in the sense that it almost mirrored mine own in some ways. It was really cool to have an American band holding their own in the midst of a post-punk wave of British bands, and kicking-ass in the process. When the 1980's ended I found myself married (sheesh I hadn't had a girlfriend in about 5-years), and was going through a BIG born yesterday Christian phase. The song "Losing My Religion" coincided with the time where I realized I ultimately couldn't out run the old me despite all the new titles I was wearing.
As a teen in Athens in the late 80s, REM meant the world to me. Thanks guys.
Hey Mike...the"inspiration/perspiration " thing was Thomas Edison....Great to hear that you have got a new record coming out....love the show Rick
Rick Rubin is the best interviewer in our world. But to hear Stipe being interviewed….. no more words!
I went to see R.E.M at balloch country park at loch lomond, it was one of the greatest gigs i ever seen , me and my ex wife were high as fuck smokin coke joints and drinkin beer watchin that gig with many thousands of other scots in our bonnie wee country that day, they shut the village and had wee portable drink things in the streets, it was fuckin magic, great interview, cheers yeti 🏴
Ps the american recordings with johnny cash are the greatest music recordings ever made with the old gentleman, i have loved johnny cashs music all my life 🏴💙
Awesome hearing these two giants speak in the same interview 🙌🏽
Great interview. I had forgotten who Rick Rubin is until Stipe mentioned his collaboration with Johnny Cash.
micheal stipe is better than most of us. thank you, sir.
I was at the Shea stadium gig, with The Police, I remember the first time I heard REM it sounded so muddy and thick and I think I yelled out "What is this!?" "Who are these guys?" they were off before you knew it and the Police/ Jett show was spectacular. REM would go on the be one of my favorite bands for decades, glad I got to see them there.
I love micheal stipe. Rem made my adolescence better than anythingbit listening to him speak makes me anxious af.
Fantastic interview.
REM had me at Lower Wolves. Forever and always. Memories of the SF Old Waldorf 1981.
Thank you for this interview.
Love from Croatia.It is great to hear Michael and Rick.Interesting talk👏
as a person who was in Athens during this time it was amazing
Loved this interview and the insights from MS. REM is much like many great bands---in that each member brings this "amazing thing" that they do---that mixed together creates something brilliant.
I was a huge fan peaking at the moment of the Green world tour where I saw them and it was so great. Pretty soon that I discovered the Grateful Dead and that I could see them live and I was pretty quickly off on the Dead tour but right before that was REM for me... Murmur was my favorite album in the world when it came out and I thought Michael Stipe was a music god when I was a senior in high school.
I (we--the collective) "enjoy your voice" as well. REM... the soundtrack of transition from high school to college/ young adulthood. P.S.) Have always thought the "young Michael Stipe's" jaw line should be chiseled in marble. Gorgeous fella and human. So good to see and hear you around and amongst again. --signed, a fellow speed talker (who doesn't perceive it as such...). :)
Collapse Into Now is so good
Put Athens on the map! Not to mention defined the alt-rock sound for decades to come.
Losing my religion is one of the best vocal performances on a record
Well said,I feel it's one of those Songs that you can still hear at the Supermarket, that on the right day, can really Transcend.
I love this interview this is really good
Insightful interview. I was at the prime college age when Reckoning and Fables of the Reconstruction/Reconstruction of the Fables (my favorite REM album) came out and Stipe mumbled and you had to make up your own heady lyrics lol
R.E.M. brought melody and harmony back to guitar-based music. Albeit sadly, by their 5th album, the distortion pedal was in use full time and Stipe's singing was entirely intelligible. Broke my heart.
Monster was a great album, stop moping.
While REM were doing it in America, The Smiths were changing music in England.
There are certainly parallels of genius with these 2 bands and they are both in my soundtrack of life.
Such a great, fucking interview
Interesting that Stipe deliberately and intentionally slowed down the tempo of his vocal to be just a hair slower than the band's urgent pressing tempo; that languid lag was so much the key to Chronic Town and Murmur's intrigue for me.
IIs future is future a very recent song?? I'm seeing it was released in 2018. 4 yrs ago. Asking for a friend. Good interview b.t.w Rick
Amazing
Dead Letter Office deserves its own podcast, the best outtake album of all time.
I’m in Hawaii and in 1983 I remember a local KPOI radio DJ (Andy Preston) playing this song and saying this band will be the next big thing…. Radio Free Europe by REM. Loved them ever since. 🤙🏼
Where were u ?
Hi.where big isle,?
@@davidkenneth3983 Honolulu.
I didn't think I'd like these interviews as much as I do, but man, they rule.
Yeah it was more punk rock to be REM than anything else at that time. Murmur and the early hits hit me super hard when I listen now. Also our skate punk crew clocked hella hours of REM/ Firehose and others at the old half pipe! haha
Michael Stipe always looks like hes going to a business meeting at mcDonalds lol
Great two hour interview....
Very good loved this pod cast a lot
First Rick decisively said that he is coming to Milan to Michael's exhibition and then at the very end he said that "maybe" he's coming to Milan.
Michael Stipe left off Let's Active.
"Y'ALL" CHECK YOU OUT. NOW I HAVE A YALL PERSON TO HEAR.
I'm inspired by REMs songwriting : )
I thought that I heard you laughing
I thought that I heard you sing
I think I thought I saw you try
These words don't sound like they were written about someone on a dancefloor. They sound more like a lovers epiphony at the moment he finally realizes his delusion about the truth of his most important relationship.
How did he miss that Stipe did not grown up in Georgia? The song Losing My Religion was supposed to set up was Radio Song, which is the throwaway on the album.
Wow, listening to “radio song”. Never heard it before. Hard to believe someone thought that would be a monster hit. It’s just ok.
He knows the power of LMR
I love it. I wanted to big as big as I could, that was my intention. Lol
27:00 I think it's the mandolin
I was waiting for the song lol.....
who was the singer he mentioned? Galen.... ? from Minneapolis
Excelent..🎩
whats the artists name he mentioned along with warhol? brent kusey?
This guy reminds me of Terry Gilliam for some reason.
Moonwalker Delta 8 !wow. Good gummies!
Stipe influenced by David Essex !?!?! Crikey!
Hey kids, Rock and Roll
Nobody tells you where to go, Baby
th-cam.com/video/1jQmok3BcHs/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, it takes all sorts
Pop music is amazing.
OMG My favorite R.E.M. song (that I've been obsessing on recently) is one of his favorite R.E.M. songs!!! I'm freaking out (Country Feedback) Incredible
Peters live version of Country Feedback is my favorite live version of...Any. Song. Ever. Seen. Live.
And I got to see it twice.
1999
2003
Radiohead There, There (live) is the close second.
2008
2017
The secrets out, Rick Rubin is a do-nothing poser producer that phones it in on the coattails of other famous artists.
Good interviews tho!
I was 12.
Rem are great yes
I don’t think “that’s me in the kitchen”has the same ring to it 😂
Michael Stipe collaborated with Kurt Cobain.
I wish it happened in the future 2027. 🎸🤘🏼
I'll never understand why members of groups like R.E.M. and U2, how the lead singers both consider themselves to have been "Punk rock" in the early days. Alternative, or New Age (New Wave?), perhaps, but Punk rock? Not by my definition. REM comes closer than U2, though. (What's up with that, Bono? LoL). Just an observation. My opinion, rather; and no offense Mr. Stipe. Great interview. ;o) Oh, and advice to Michael based upon what he said about past experiences with weed: be very cautious with the gummies! Start with about 1/4 of what people might recommend.
Rick Rubin, three years younger, also started out Punk. Neneh Cherry (*1964), with whom Stipes would collaborate on the Homebrew album song 'Trout' (1992] too. I think that Punk's DIY and 'can do' attitude provided a relatively easy entry point and one could take it from there (Rubin into early 1980s hip hop production), whereas other styles might appear too established or require years of playing an instrument, not to mention the emotional fit. Similar starting point for Martin Hollis and Talk Talk but very different development to almost meditative post-rock. Deconstruction as starting point for building something new. And both Stipes and Rubin appear to like beards!
R.E.M started alternative rock music as a reaction to the 1980s glam rock, heavy metal and pop music scene. It was the right time to explore different styles of music. That's why Nirvana, Pearl Jam and 1990's grunge rock music was so powerful and influential. R.E.M made it alright to play alternative, punk, garage, folk, country, and new wave rock music.
@@sonicjet7759 Okay, but what does that have to do with the Punk Rock classification? I agree with all those other musical styles that you listed there, R.E.M. has done stuff that could easily be filed under those, I feel. The "punk" one, is the only one that I just don't see. Maybe if you give me an example of an REM song, that you feel falls into the punk music genre(?); then I'll concede.
@@UTubeISphere Again, maybe can you give me an example or two of an R.E.M. song you feel is punk rock. Perhaps my own definition of the term is what's skewed.
@@jamescameron277 If REM (as you wrote in your original post) claim their roots in punk rock, then I would assume there is something to it. Then I would investigate what kind of music they were playing before their first single: does it come close to punk music? What other elements are present? Then I would move on to their first single (Radio Free Europe?): are there punk elements in there? I would say yes. Then a peek at stage presence and choreography: arguably at least a partial yes. Then punk attitude: is it okay to sing that particular way rather than a more established way? Also yes. So if they claim a lineage back to punk, and one can also find punk elements in their music, attitude and choreography, then I would take their claim seriously (even though one can point at other elements in their music and label them differently).
I have a problem: I'm a huge REM fan, I mean HUGE, but Stipe's solo work I just can't listen to, take this Future song, I mean this stuff is simply unlistenable! Or am I missing something?
As with anything after Automatic for the People
The Beatles . America .
Agreed. Warhol is the greatest artist of the 20th century.
Picasso for me…but all is subjective. Agree that Warhol transcends art into other areas such as music and culture.
Make Scott Free scot-free again!
Why does it sound like this interview was edited to be at a faster speed and any of the space in between q & a taken out? Please don't do that. It would have been more enjoyable to hear this as it was recorded.
I had always wondered what a Rubin produced R.E.M record could have sounded.
I wasn't a fan of the Pat McCarthy-era. It should have been a Rubin trilogy.
I like the Pat McCarthy era except for Around The Sun. I don't care for the Jacknlife Lee produced records due to the poor sound quality.
@@aftp6646 I love Reveal, actually. Great record. I can see what they were going for with Up, but it didn't work for me. Around The Sun is possibly their worst album.
Yeah , it was very anemic to me.
as if there is any doubt with rubin
Ditto...
too short :(
He REALLY cares about climate change...he must be a good person.
Rick, I’d love to do an album with you. I’m one of the next big Artists.
Cool but Michael’s voice is not being done justice. Wrong mic / angle / distance etc. Sounds sandy/ raspy / breathless somehow. Anyways love the podcast!
WTF Stipe. Get REM back together.
Nah, they did the right thing. The band with the most professional integrity. Still friends, still alive. And how could you really replace Bill?
Not without Berry!
Too many sentences starting with I
Is it possible that during this interview Michael Stipe is not on some stimulant that promotes extreme loquacity?
I certainly hope he is not like this without some mind altering substance. But, whatever.
I believe just coffee and enthusiasm.
Speed and Coke!!!
I like the Ramones but don’t love them. Can anyone out there explain why they are so adored by the rock community. Now that most of the Ramones are all dead, everyone constantly kisses their ass. I am wondering why?
Got back to basic rock n roll post glam - part of NY punk scene that influenced uk punk scene
Cos they were the real deal no bullshit and they were fun. They never sold out.
Pretentious
Michael Stipe, a great singer, has a terrible microphone. Boo. He claims to have a vivid memory of it, but there is no German-language recording of The Beatles singing "Michelle." The list of songs they did in German is a very short one, and every real Beatles fan would be able to name them all? "Michelle" was a hit on German radio - it hit Number 6 in West Germany. So he would have heard that song on the radio, but in French and English, not German.