Awesome until they weren't. Unfortunate last few years other than 2017. The program didn't recruit well enough to compete with programs like Alabama and Clemson and it showed the two times that MSU got blown out by Alabama. If MSU ever wants to compete for a championship and not just a Big 10 conference championship they need to get better at recruiting and making coaching changes when necessary. Other than that, nothing but respect for Dantonio for what he was able to do with his staff and players the majority of the time he coached there.
Yes they were fun times. But the part that got me mad was that Dantonio wouldn’t wanna change his ways and get rid of the offensive staff. But I still thank him for what he has done at msu
@@upbeatplays5264 You're right, and I was happy to see Michigan lose, but I want to see MSU be as competitive as Alabama and Clemson. And they had a chance but they just didn't recruit well enough nor upgrade coaching staff. I'm hoping Mel Tucker can start pulling in some top recruits so he can make MSU not only a great program, but one that won't get blown out by Alabama. Clemson was able to do it so there is hope for MSU. But the only winning season that MSU has had since 2015 was 2017 when they won 10 games. Since then, yes they've made it to a couple of bowl games but I don't count those as winning seasons because all they really needed were 6 wins. Don't know about you, but I hope MSU and the coaches want to win 10 plus games each season, not just every few years and eventually championship.
I can firmly say that the downfall of Nebraska was solely on them firing Bo Pelini. Pelini came back home to Youngstown, where I live and where he grew up, to coach YSU. And what he did with the talent he had was remarkable. He even took YSU to an FCS championship one year.
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clemson used to a 3rd tier program with nothing but medicre seasons (7 win seasons were considered successful) . imo, MSU def has enough name brand to recruit strongly and redefine their football program, but it's going to take a really good coach, alot of money, and alot of time.
Oodibigah nope second tier programs turn into 1st Clemson at one point was a mediocre program same with Alabama and penn state I saw what we are capable of before we at one point was a 1st option program we I mean look they said we were a just going to be a mediocre and what did we do go the the rose bowl win we went to the cotton bowl and won and made it to the playoffs and won the big ten 2nd tier my ass Spartan football well be back soon.
{feitan} they’re definitely second tier. Tbh dantonio didn’t evolve with the times. His defense was good but no offense killed him. Clemson is at the top because they have some of the best schemes in the nation and the recruiting caught up when people realized how good they were. Saban evolved his offense with kiffin. Dantonio didn’t sadly.
Yeah, that was the only msu team I thought might just be able to compete against Alabama. Mainly because that msu defense (the no fly zone) was just really good.
MSU fan here 2010-15 were the best years of watching football in my life. Wish they can have that swagger back but our program is going into the ground. Very sad to see
@@scottrichards2080 my sources tell me jim Harbaugh contract extension , jim.harbaugh take a big pay cut, but incentive, short extension,, cost 10 millions to buyout jim Harbaugh & his staff, or get fired Michigan cannot afford that, jim Harbaugh had been telling recuits he coming back
Good video, but having grown up in Lansing I can tell you that the 2013 team is looked at in much higher regard than the 2015 team. Had the playoff been around that year, they would've had a good shot. That defense was something else. The 2015 team caught so many breaks.
this is so true, they peaked in the big ten championship against ohio state in 2013, slowly declined over two years until 2016 when they fell off a cliff. 2013 msu was the best defense of the decade in cfb imp
It’s relative. All’s relative. I remember when MSU was one of the clear Elite programs in the 50s & 60s. Also, we were famous for recruiting & playing African Americans when other premier programs would not. Texas. Alabama. Duffy was cool! Then there was the 10-10 tie where MSU + ND = a Pro Team. Seriously. MSU had 1/2 of the first 8 players drafted by the Pros! Bubba, Rover-man Webster, Jones & Washington. State was as cool as you could get. I was accepted to Michigan, then attended the 10-10 tie & changed to State for the fall 67 class. Then, the S hit the fan...... Never regretted the decision. It’s all relative & it’s all good. It’s all fun. We were in the playoffs. We kicked Michigan’s ass 7 out of 8 years recently. And on and on. We have one of the truly premier CBB programs. The most popular sports on campus are CFB, CBB and hockey & State is still the only school to win two National Championships in all three sports. Quit your bellyaching! And, students, Internet Courage is not. STOP. GO GREEN. GO WHITE
Unpopular opinion: I was actually a fan of Dantonio during his time at Michigan State. Sure, he had issues off the field and didnt do things to progress the program continually though his 13 years as head coach. But he helped bring us some of the most memorable games and outcomes that Michigan State has ever seen. Little Giants, Rocket, the 100th Rose Bowl, the major comeback against Baylor, the triple OT game against Georgia, the muffed punt. He will truly go down as one of my favorite coaches thus far for Michigan State and I hope whoever takes his place is just as exciting to watch.
This is a really good video! The narrator gets right to the point and uses clips exclusively. It's not all about him and his insights are good. Good job!
Been a subscriber for a few months now and I must say your content is amazing! You really do deserve more views and subscribers. You remind me of a more polite version of urinating tree, only 10 times better. Tree normally shits on failing programs or ones on the down turn, laughs at them, say they suck and move on. But you take the higher road. You sympathize with these programs. Make them look like the tragic hero/ sympatetic villian when you could just take the easy rout and just point a finger and make jokes. We need more content like this on youtube. Keep up the good work!
It’s relative. All’s relative. I remember when MSU was one of the clear Elite programs in the 50s & 60s. Also, we were famous for recruiting & playing African Americans when other premier programs would not. Texas. Alabama. Duffy was cool! Then there was the 10-10 tie where MSU + ND = a Pro Team. Seriously. MSU had 1/2 of the first 8 players drafted by the Pros! Bubba, Rover-man Webster, Jones & Washington. State was as cool as you could get. I was accepted to Michigan, then attended the 10-10 tie & changed to State for the fall 67 class. Then, the S hit the fan...... Never regretted the decision. It’s all relative & it’s all good. It’s all fun. We were in the playoffs. We kicked Michigan’s ass 7 out of 8 years recently. And on and on. We have one of the truly premier CBB programs. The most popular sports on campus are CFB, CBB and hockey & State is still the only school to win two National Championships in all three sports. Quit your bellyaching! And, students, Internet Courage is not. STOP. GO GREEN. GO WHITE
Is it me, or are all the 2nd tier programs of the 2010 starting to fall off? Look at teams like TCU, Stanford and MSU for the past couple seasons. Edit: At 8:24 How’d you forget Iowa and Kinnick Stadium (the house of horrors)?
Yes theyre a Second tier program. They're not bottom feeders, Nor blue bloods or mid majors (football). Yes they can have good years once a decade or so, but they're 2nd tier
oh, and all those final 4's in basketball is/was disappointing to you. spoiled fan, that's for sure! a lot of teams don't even make the tourney stupid.
@@j.michaelnolan6388 Literally no one is talking about basketball. Maybe look at the title of the video before you call me stupid for commenting on the football program
Cincinnati alumnus here. Like Fickell will not be leaving Cincinnati for MSU. I'm sure I'll get flamed, because this is the internet we're talking about, but Fickell is 1) Happy at Cincinnati, 2) Not treating Cincinnati as a stepping stone. Say what you will about our conference, but Cincinnati is no longer a step, but becoming a destination. Most of the football world wouldn't roast UC if they were ACC or Big 12 members. Besides, I wouldn't want to inherit a train wreck under investigation from the NCAA. No thanks.
Hey Cole! You should do a “Revival” series. For example The Oregon Ducks and possibly Tennessee in the future, Florida, Georgia, etc... I think that’d be great and really interesting!
I've got to believe the Dantonio and MSU discussed this beforehand and MSU was supportive of Dantonio retiring now instead of a month ago. MSU could easily have said, we are going to pay Dantonio his 4 Mill and let him go so we can start recruiting a new HC ASAP.
Two of my good friends play football at MSU, Jaydon Reed and Payton Throne, I hope the new coach will use them. Also Cinnati looked at my friend for QB, also NOTI Gang!!!
You should do the New Orleans Saints from 2010 to 2020. Super Bowl champs to bounty gate scandal, a couple playoff appearances, 3 straight 7-9 seasons, and the 3 heartbreaks that followed.
Coach Dantonio received a lot of criticism at the end of his tenure at Michigan State, but Mark was a really serious professional, and truly one of the best leaders of any program in the country. It was pretty disrespectful, as far as I see it, for some of the problems of the university to in some ways fall on his shoulders in the eyes of Michigan State fans. I went to basically every Michigan State football game from five years old until I graduated from high school in 2013, the year of Michigan State's Rose Bowl Victory (The Defensive MVP of the Rose Bowl was an older friend of mine from my school), and Coach Dantonio did Michigan State University a hell of a service with his work. The stadium was always electric, to note some of the most magical games in college football history (Michigan State v. Notre Dame - Fake Field Goal in Overtime, Michigan State v. Wisconsin - Hail Mary, Michigan State v. Michigan - Final Play Special Teams Touchdown), and the players always played with fire and love for the game. He didn't get the recognition that a lot of great coaches get like Saban or Paterno, but he took his first big opportunity and capitalized on it, bringing Michigan State their first Rose Bowl victory in generations and bringing lifelong fans of Michigan State University like me a great deal of pride. He took a program that was mediocre at best when he arrived and brought us to greatness. Thanks, Coach Dantonio. It's a beautiful day for football. Ahoo. Ahoo. Ahoo.
@@williamgullett5911 And Michigan will never be as good as Ohio State Y'all will be confined by them year after year. Never making it past theme will be Better than Michigan sooner or later
@@BloodFeitan Even with Ohio St winning 12 or 13 straight Michigan has won more vs OSU. Michigan baseball, including making the championship last year, is better than OSU baseball all time. Michigan hockey is better than OSU hockey. Michigan basketball is better...and a Michigan education is better than OSU education. I will have to say Ohio St is better than Michigan at one thing....players being arrested.
Like next year when snake Tucker who Lied to team at Colorado, the admin., his staff, media and fans, winds up with recruiting violations S.E.C. style and is ousted.
Offense has definitely always been our weak point, but Dantonio's a brilliant mind on Defense and focuses on winning through trying to maintain ball possession for as long as possible and beat the crap out of them on defense. A lot of slow paced grind-them-out games but that was his style. Here's to hoping Luke Fickell brings us back
Dantonio - one of the best coaches in the country, thank you Coach D for the honor and success you brought to MSU. You deserve a statue. And now, ladies and gentlemen - Luke Fickell!
Update: The MSU board of trustees having a different direction with the football program including indirectly pressuring Dantonio into retirement and not really allowing Dantonio having a say on his successor when he was going to retire at a later time triggered him into a sudden retirement. In addition, Dantonio was clearly was going earn his bonus regardless of whether or not he was the coach by January 23rd. MSU failed to hire Luke Fickell but they still hired Mel Tucker who not only looks very promising, he too was a former Saban assistant and also was a former assistant for the 2002 Ohio State national championship team like Dantonio was. Plus, Tucker is an elite recruiter and did great work at Colorado which was heading towards a dead program when he first took over. The lawsuit with Curtis Blackwell appears to be favoring Dantonio since there has been no evidence of violations. Blackwell then continued to drag the case and included claims that Dantonio is a racist. There was no evidence for that either. Dantonio appears to be clean at this point.
Alabama fan here. What happened to MSU is the same things that happened to Texas in 2010; LSU in 2012; and Notre Dame in 2013. A loss in the title game set back those programs. It was faster with MSU.
What happened to Michigan state was all of their best players got in trouble for absolutely awful things and set them back at key positions the last few years. Coach Tucker is having a great start.
I’m a big MSU fan. Dantonio was a really great coach and fact that he made the CFP before Harbaugh means he’s a little bit underrated. I hope Fickle is our next coach
It took dantonio 8 years to get to the playoffs and harbaugh has only coaches 5 years at Michigan. So until harbaugh has coached at Michigan for 8 years you can’t say dantonio made it before him. Dantonio has a .667 win percentage at MSU and is regarded as the greatest coach in their history. Harbaugh has a .723 win percentage and their fans want him fired. That just shows the difference in the two programs and their coaches. Different standards
Lightning 10 it’s also great to point out that once harbaugh showed up MSU completely died off. The only wins against harbaugh they had was a once in a lifetime miracle and lucky rainy game vs a sped qb in John okorn.
Oodibigah rain?? this is football I don’t care we come out there and shut down Michigan no excuses be ready to play in any condition and 2015 yeah it was a bit of luck but we still executed enough to block that punt and plus Harbaugh is a terrible bowl coach and Dantonio is a good bowl coach and mark Dantonio won big ten Championship not to mention Dantonio beat Ohio State and Michigan hasn’t even won the big ten East
@@drewlbers dantonio has a lower win percentage because of the abysmal last 2 years, but his win percentage against top-10 teams is way higher. maybe it would mean something if Harbaugh had beaten dantonio when MSU has a winning record.
Chach Wa you can hold as many records as you want but if you can’t bring your team to a decent bowl game and win then that’s not a good QB. He is by far not the best QB to go to MSU for sure
The downfall is when the Beg Ten moved MSU to the east division. They averaged a 10-3 record before the move and 8-5 after. I think averaging 7 to 9 wins is what to expect from MSU.
Michigan St has not always played in the Big 10 East. They were in the Legends Division of the Big 10. Legends: Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska and Northwestern. Leaders: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue and Wisconsin. They moved to the east in 2014. herosports.com/college-football/big-ten-legends-leaders-ahah
@@johnadams5678 based on the Legends and Leaders era there was no east and west. They played on the Legends side with Michigan until Maryland and Rutgers were added in 2014. Not clear on exactly what you're trying to argue.
@@johnadams5678 they also have two Cotton Bowl appearances while in the East, once against Baylor and the other in the College Football Playoff against Bama which was the zenith on the Dantonio era. So not sure what you're talking about.
My point is they play Michigan, Ohio St, and Penn St on a yearly basis. They go from having to play just Michigan every year to now adding OSU and PSU. When you play teams that are traditionally better then you, you lose. That helped the decline from 2015 to now. They are 6-9 against those teams in that time span.
Heavy and unfortunate downfall. But a lot of this is on Dantonio for being stubborn and not making necessary coaching changes and for not recruiting more 4/5 star players. Kinda interesting seeing what Mel Tucker is trying to do in terms or recruiting and coaching staff. Should be fun to see how his coaching tenure plays out.
@@upbeatplays5264 Yes he was. But his last few years 2016-2019 (with the exception of 2017) were just bad. I feel bad for him, because I think he really wanted a couple of more years to retire on top, but he just didn't like making coaching changes and unfortunately it showed. Other than that, I hope they commemorate his time as a head coach by building him a statue or something, because they had a lot of success under him.
Hold up... its not honorable to take the money that was negotiated and agreed in your contract? You stepped out of line there. That is like accusing a smart rich man of being a thief for using the tax code to his advantage.
I went to MSU during the middle to end of Damtonio’s career at MSU. Sure he brought me some of my favorite moments like 27-23 and the field gold against Ohio, but I will not forget how horrible to sex scandals were with his team and on campus. It was a terrifying and weak time to be a Spartan, so what did Dantonio do?? He Took the Money and ran. MSU really needs to rebuild both culturally and on the field now (And I think deep down we know which is more important)
3 yards and a cloud of dust is thinking from the 1960s.in the 2020s it’s all about having a great quarterback and surrounding him with talent. MSU was great at developing 3 star players but when you get past the great 3 of Hoyer Cook and Cousins, the quarterback play was terrible and their record reflected it. You could blame this on many things or it may be a combination of thing like old school thinking, poor line play, poor coaching snd bad play calling and average skill position players. I hope MSU gets good again it’s hard to compete with the big boys when you are constantly ranked 30-50 in recruiting. They do make a lot of what they get, but there is a huge drop off between OSU and bamas 3rd snd 4th string snd MSUs.
I'm a MSU fan and these years with dantonio were awesome
Awesome until they weren't. Unfortunate last few years other than 2017.
The program didn't recruit well enough to compete with programs like Alabama and Clemson and it showed the two times that MSU got blown out by Alabama.
If MSU ever wants to compete for a championship and not just a Big 10 conference championship they need to get better at recruiting and making coaching changes when necessary.
Other than that, nothing but respect for Dantonio for what he was able to do with his staff and players the majority of the time he coached there.
Yes they were fun times. But the part that got me mad was that Dantonio wouldn’t wanna change his ways and get rid of the offensive staff. But I still thank him for what he has done at msu
@@MrChicotg Mich couldn''t beat alabama either, and the last 2 years have been winning seasons.
@@upbeatplays5264 You're right, and I was happy to see Michigan lose, but I want to see MSU be as competitive as Alabama and Clemson. And they had a chance but they just didn't recruit well enough nor upgrade coaching staff. I'm hoping Mel Tucker can start pulling in some top recruits so he can make MSU not only a great program, but one that won't get blown out by Alabama. Clemson was able to do it so there is hope for MSU.
But the only winning season that MSU has had since 2015 was 2017 when they won 10 games. Since then, yes they've made it to a couple of bowl games but I don't count those as winning seasons because all they really needed were 6 wins. Don't know about you, but I hope MSU and the coaches want to win 10 plus games each season, not just every few years and eventually championship.
@@MrChicotg Yeah, I guess I'd like that too. I'm hoping it happens soon, and if not soon, sort of soon.
I hope you cover the downfall of Nebraska someday. I'm a Nebraska fan, these last few years have been rough.
BronySquid I can run it down for you. They made a mistake in firing Bo. That’s when the downfall started.
@@LOtenorthang imo they should have never fired Solich. When they fired Solich we lost the Osborne link.
this video seems really premature compared to the downfall of Nebraska
@@LOtenorthang Man you're really stupid. Please stop watching husker football.
I can firmly say that the downfall of Nebraska was solely on them firing Bo Pelini. Pelini came back home to Youngstown, where I live and where he grew up, to coach YSU. And what he did with the talent he had was remarkable. He even took YSU to an FCS championship one year.
MSU fan here and kinda figured dantonio would retire soon but not this soon
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Mr. L same here
Yea
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Well, Michigan State football is becoming fun to watch again! Maybe there can be a video about the rise and fall and rise again of the program!
MSU now 8-0 and beat little brother
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As a msu fan it almost feels like we will never get back to what we once was but I still have faith but this rebuilding process will be fun
You guys will sadly always be 2nd tier. Mediocre with a possibility of a few years of being great every decade or so
@@drewlbers Not necessarily true. If MSU can find & lure an exceptional motivational force like P.J.Fleck, they'll be back in the thick of it.
clemson used to a 3rd tier program with nothing but medicre seasons (7 win seasons were considered successful) . imo, MSU def has enough name brand to recruit strongly and redefine their football program, but it's going to take a really good coach, alot of money, and alot of time.
Oodibigah nope second tier programs turn into 1st Clemson at one point was a mediocre program same with Alabama and penn state I saw what we are capable of before we at one point was a 1st option program we I mean look they said we were a just going to be a mediocre and what did we do go the the rose bowl win we went to the cotton bowl and won and made it to the playoffs and won the big ten 2nd tier my ass Spartan football well be back soon.
{feitan} they’re definitely second tier. Tbh dantonio didn’t evolve with the times. His defense was good but no offense killed him. Clemson is at the top because they have some of the best schemes in the nation and the recruiting caught up when people realized how good they were. Saban evolved his offense with kiffin. Dantonio didn’t sadly.
2013 when they beat Ohio state in the conference championship was one of the toughest losses as a Buckeye fan.. that was the best MSU team
I disagree.
Yeah, that was the only msu team I thought might just be able to compete against Alabama. Mainly because that msu defense (the no fly zone) was just really good.
Collin I agree with you. MSU peaked right then and there, they were a national championship caliber team. That defense was really something special.
Some bad pass interference calls vs Notre Dame or they been in BCS Championship and would of had good chance to win it.
April Drake That is a fact! that defense was absolutely insane.
As a Hawkeye fan, he was the ONE coach in the conference we never loved playing against! He doesn’t get out coached! EVER!
MSU fan here 2010-15 were the best years of watching football in my life. Wish they can have that swagger back but our program is going into the ground. Very sad to see
See my comment above.
Dantonio wouldn't fire his friends... The end.
John Bretz yeah what did he think reshuffling the offensive staff would achieve haha
Jim Harbaugh became new sheriff, put mark Antonio into retirement /nuring home 🏡 extra room for mel tucker
@@lloydkline6946 harbaugh is about to get fired
@@scottrichards2080 my sources tell me jim Harbaugh contract extension , jim.harbaugh take a big pay cut, but incentive, short extension,, cost 10 millions to buyout jim Harbaugh & his staff, or get fired Michigan cannot afford that, jim Harbaugh had been telling recuits he coming back
Good video, but having grown up in Lansing I can tell you that the 2013 team is looked at in much higher regard than the 2015 team. Had the playoff been around that year, they would've had a good shot. That defense was something else. The 2015 team caught so many breaks.
this is so true, they peaked in the big ten championship against ohio state in 2013, slowly declined over two years until 2016 when they fell off a cliff. 2013 msu was the best defense of the decade in cfb imp
It’s relative. All’s relative.
I remember when MSU was one of the clear Elite programs in the 50s & 60s. Also, we were famous for recruiting & playing African Americans when other premier programs would not. Texas. Alabama. Duffy was cool! Then there was the 10-10 tie where MSU + ND = a Pro Team. Seriously. MSU had 1/2 of the first 8 players drafted by the Pros! Bubba, Rover-man Webster, Jones & Washington. State was as cool as you could get. I was accepted to Michigan, then attended the 10-10 tie & changed to State for the fall 67 class.
Then, the S hit the fan......
Never regretted the decision. It’s all relative & it’s all good. It’s all fun. We were in the playoffs. We kicked Michigan’s ass 7 out of 8 years recently. And on and on. We have one of the truly premier CBB programs. The most popular sports on campus are CFB, CBB and hockey & State is still the only school to win two National Championships in all three sports.
Quit your bellyaching! And, students, Internet Courage is not. STOP.
GO GREEN. GO WHITE
Oh you mean that 1966 10-10 loss to the Irish.Back in them days, Notre Dame did not go to bowl games.
Unpopular opinion: I was actually a fan of Dantonio during his time at Michigan State. Sure, he had issues off the field and didnt do things to progress the program continually though his 13 years as head coach. But he helped bring us some of the most memorable games and outcomes that Michigan State has ever seen. Little Giants, Rocket, the 100th Rose Bowl, the major comeback against Baylor, the triple OT game against Georgia, the muffed punt. He will truly go down as one of my favorite coaches thus far for Michigan State and I hope whoever takes his place is just as exciting to watch.
Michigan State football for whatever reason hasn't been the same since Pat Narduzzi left.
I'm from Lansing and I been saying that since the first season after he left
GO GREEN
New One and then Nardizzi can’t even win in a weak ACC. Hell, Eastern should’ve beaten them
You make my month when you upload
This is a really good video! The narrator gets right to the point and uses clips exclusively. It's not all about him and his insights are good. Good job!
Been a subscriber for a few months now and I must say your content is amazing!
You really do deserve more views and subscribers.
You remind me of a more polite version of urinating tree, only 10 times better. Tree normally shits on failing programs or ones on the down turn, laughs at them, say they suck and move on.
But you take the higher road. You sympathize with these programs. Make them look like the tragic hero/ sympatetic villian when you could just take the easy rout and just point a finger and make jokes.
We need more content like this on youtube.
Keep up the good work!
This wasn’t really a downfall video u kinda just rambled a lot and repeated urself to get to the 10 min marker
It’s relative. All’s relative.
I remember when MSU was one of the clear Elite programs in the 50s & 60s. Also, we were famous for recruiting & playing African Americans when other premier programs would not. Texas. Alabama. Duffy was cool! Then there was the 10-10 tie where MSU + ND = a Pro Team. Seriously. MSU had 1/2 of the first 8 players drafted by the Pros! Bubba, Rover-man Webster, Jones & Washington. State was as cool as you could get. I was accepted to Michigan, then attended the 10-10 tie & changed to State for the fall 67 class.
Then, the S hit the fan......
Never regretted the decision. It’s all relative & it’s all good. It’s all fun. We were in the playoffs. We kicked Michigan’s ass 7 out of 8 years recently. And on and on. We have one of the truly premier CBB programs. The most popular sports on campus are CFB, CBB and hockey & State is still the only school to win two National Championships in all three sports.
Quit your bellyaching! And, students, Internet Courage is not. STOP.
GO GREEN. GO WHITE
@@jjv4313 ok, boomer.
Mackenzie Matthews ok zoomer
unfortunately I agree.
Jim Vrbanac we just have you those years. UofM still goated
Dantiono is and will be the great coach of MSU
Is it me, or are all the 2nd tier programs of the 2010 starting to fall off? Look at teams like TCU, Stanford and MSU for the past couple seasons.
Edit: At 8:24 How’d you forget Iowa and Kinnick Stadium (the house of horrors)?
XD Gaming MSU isn’t a second tier program, they have just had a few bad years lately
The rain Bane there a second tier program
The rain Bane They aren’t a blue blood or a bottom feeder.
@@xdgaming70 from 2013-2015 (3 years) they were elite top tier. (top 4)
Yes theyre a Second tier program. They're not bottom feeders, Nor blue bloods or mid majors (football). Yes they can have good years once a decade or so, but they're 2nd tier
Casually misses only two games after a heart attack
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He EARNED that bonus.....every dime.
Once he lost his Defensive coordinator the fall began. They had an elite defense.
Enjoy your retirement Coach Dantonio!! He accomplished a lot in 13 yrs
Spot on with the loyalty and and not adapting that was the biggest issue
Being a MSU fan is like being super hyped for a movie, spending the time and money to go see it in theaters, and coming away deeply dissapointed
Yet you'll be back for the sequel no matter what.
Epos Your an idiot who is no fun. No fan!
oh, and all those final 4's in basketball is/was disappointing to you. spoiled fan, that's for sure! a lot of teams don't even make the tourney stupid.
@@jjv4313 MSU is dissapointing and me recognizing that doesn't make me not a fan.
@@j.michaelnolan6388 Literally no one is talking about basketball. Maybe look at the title of the video before you call me stupid for commenting on the football program
Also after the 10-3 season I thought we would be good again but it never happened
I love getting the notification as I'm watching the video
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Cincinnati alumnus here. Like Fickell will not be leaving Cincinnati for MSU. I'm sure I'll get flamed, because this is the internet we're talking about, but Fickell is 1) Happy at Cincinnati, 2) Not treating Cincinnati as a stepping stone. Say what you will about our conference, but Cincinnati is no longer a step, but becoming a destination. Most of the football world wouldn't roast UC if they were ACC or Big 12 members. Besides, I wouldn't want to inherit a train wreck under investigation from the NCAA. No thanks.
Maybe you right. But It's been reported that he's interviewing at MSU this weekend, so who knows.
I’m happy you made this video
Hey Cole! You should do a “Revival” series. For example The Oregon Ducks and possibly Tennessee in the future, Florida, Georgia, etc... I think that’d be great and really interesting!
I've got to believe the Dantonio and MSU discussed this beforehand and MSU was supportive of Dantonio retiring now instead of a month ago. MSU could easily have said, we are going to pay Dantonio his 4 Mill and let him go so we can start recruiting a new HC ASAP.
what a great guy. he got his bonus, left a week after in late january, and then showed up to the home opener.
This didn't explain anything. Just really a recap....
Two of my good friends play football at MSU, Jaydon Reed and Payton Throne, I hope the new coach will use them. Also Cinnati looked at my friend for QB, also NOTI Gang!!!
King Vaith Kumars got connections😂💯
Good thing I'm an LSU fan😁
Dang, you some nice friends! 😂
Club Barnacle yea thanks!
They haven’t played yet but will have a lot of PT next year
Sorry my little brothers!!😁 GO BLUE!!
I’m sorry did I read the score wrong today?
Interesting
@@arctici1ce lmaooooo fuck em
It ok ;; Jim Harbaugh is bring down Michigan state football/ Mel tucker in 2021 to the local east Lansing cemetery 🕳 state&83
You should do the New Orleans Saints from 2010 to 2020. Super Bowl champs to bounty gate scandal, a couple playoff appearances, 3 straight 7-9 seasons, and the 3 heartbreaks that followed.
Your underrated 🚫🧢
Coach Dantonio received a lot of criticism at the end of his tenure at Michigan State, but Mark was a really serious professional, and truly one of the best leaders of any program in the country. It was pretty disrespectful, as far as I see it, for some of the problems of the university to in some ways fall on his shoulders in the eyes of Michigan State fans. I went to basically every Michigan State football game from five years old until I graduated from high school in 2013, the year of Michigan State's Rose Bowl Victory (The Defensive MVP of the Rose Bowl was an older friend of mine from my school), and Coach Dantonio did Michigan State University a hell of a service with his work. The stadium was always electric, to note some of the most magical games in college football history (Michigan State v. Notre Dame - Fake Field Goal in Overtime, Michigan State v. Wisconsin - Hail Mary, Michigan State v. Michigan - Final Play Special Teams Touchdown), and the players always played with fire and love for the game. He didn't get the recognition that a lot of great coaches get like Saban or Paterno, but he took his first big opportunity and capitalized on it, bringing Michigan State their first Rose Bowl victory in generations and bringing lifelong fans of Michigan State University like me a great deal of pride. He took a program that was mediocre at best when he arrived and brought us to greatness. Thanks, Coach Dantonio. It's a beautiful day for football. Ahoo. Ahoo. Ahoo.
I’m not sure but this is hilarious 😂
I would say you should do "what happened to Michigan football?" But we all know. HARBAUGH CAN'T BEAT THE GOOD TEAMS.
Michigan St. will never be as good as Michigan athletically or academically.
@@williamgullett5911 they won't
@@williamgullett5911 And Michigan will never be as good as Ohio State Y'all will be confined by them year after year. Never making it past theme will be Better than Michigan sooner or later
@@BloodFeitan Even with Ohio St winning 12 or 13 straight Michigan has won more vs OSU. Michigan baseball, including making the championship last year, is better than OSU baseball all time. Michigan hockey is better than OSU hockey. Michigan basketball is better...and a Michigan education is better than OSU education.
I will have to say Ohio St is better than Michigan at one thing....players being arrested.
William Gullett I’m talking about football my guy not baseball or hockey
Let’s go finally someone addressing it. As a MSU fan it’s been tough but we got Luke Fickell on the way
Like next year when snake Tucker who Lied to team at Colorado, the admin., his staff, media and fans, winds up with recruiting violations S.E.C. style and is ousted.
We need to cover the downfall of the Arkansas Razorbacks
They have falling since 1969 loss at HOME to Texas. President Nixon and National T V .
Also do one on the rise of San Diego St Basketball
Offense has definitely always been our weak point, but Dantonio's a brilliant mind on Defense and focuses on winning through trying to maintain ball possession for as long as possible and beat the crap out of them on defense. A lot of slow paced grind-them-out games but that was his style. Here's to hoping Luke Fickell brings us back
Man I remember the days when we had calhoun, tony lippett, cook, Langford those were some good times now we’re just avergae
Mark Built and Destroyed his own empire. But now it’s Tucker time and for the first time in 3 years I’m excited for MSU Football!
As a State fan nothing happened to us were just in rebuild mode something we haven’t had to do in 10 years
Dantonio - one of the best coaches in the country, thank you Coach D for the honor and success you brought to MSU. You deserve a statue.
And now, ladies and gentlemen - Luke Fickell!
u mean some person name Mel lol
Luke Fickell would’ve been nice, but Mel Tucker has done possibly an even better job in his second year than he would’ve.
im a MSU fan and I knew this one was coming. Its so sad to me when I watch old highlights of the rose bowl and cotton bowl
Andrew Koenig same hopefully we can get back to what we were
I hope
@@andrewkoenig3312 Keep believing. I know we can. 💚
Even though he didn't win the National Championship however for what he accomplished his name belongs on the ring with Biggie and Duffy.
Without watching the video I can answer, dantonio didn’t want to fire his friends on the staff who were underperforming
As an alum (but not a fan) he did a great job. Past his prime but Michigan State has enough money to get a top tier coach. They will be alright.
Can you do a video on the resurrection of Baylor football?
Update:
The MSU board of trustees having a different direction with the football program including indirectly pressuring Dantonio into retirement and not really allowing Dantonio having a say on his successor when he was going to retire at a later time triggered him into a sudden retirement. In addition, Dantonio was clearly was going earn his bonus regardless of whether or not he was the coach by January 23rd.
MSU failed to hire Luke Fickell but they still hired Mel Tucker who not only looks very promising, he too was a former Saban assistant and also was a former assistant for the 2002 Ohio State national championship team like Dantonio was. Plus, Tucker is an elite recruiter and did great work at Colorado which was heading towards a dead program when he first took over.
The lawsuit with Curtis Blackwell appears to be favoring Dantonio since there has been no evidence of violations. Blackwell then continued to drag the case and included claims that Dantonio is a racist. There was no evidence for that either. Dantonio appears to be clean at this point.
Alabama fan here. What happened to MSU is the same things that happened to Texas in 2010; LSU in 2012; and Notre Dame in 2013. A loss in the title game set back those programs. It was faster with MSU.
I hope Mel Tucker can bring us to the elite status that Coach D got us too
Mmg should be kicker, quarterback, punter, running back, and middle linebacker
And now we have Mel Tucker and he's doing awesome!
It wasn’t really abrupt they were saying it was huge speculation that he may not be back, especially after that scandal
Noti gang
Noti Gang
What happened to Michigan state was all of their best players got in trouble for absolutely awful things and set them back at key positions the last few years. Coach Tucker is having a great start.
*lets go for two*
I’m a big MSU fan. Dantonio was a really great coach and fact that he made the CFP before Harbaugh means he’s a little bit underrated. I hope Fickle is our next coach
If we get Luke fickell that would give me hope
It took dantonio 8 years to get to the playoffs and harbaugh has only coaches 5 years at Michigan. So until harbaugh has coached at Michigan for 8 years you can’t say dantonio made it before him. Dantonio has a .667 win percentage at MSU and is regarded as the greatest coach in their history. Harbaugh has a .723 win percentage and their fans want him fired. That just shows the difference in the two programs and their coaches. Different standards
Lightning 10 it’s also great to point out that once harbaugh showed up MSU completely died off. The only wins against harbaugh they had was a once in a lifetime miracle and lucky rainy game vs a sped qb in John okorn.
Oodibigah rain?? this is football I don’t care we come out there and shut down Michigan no excuses be ready to play in any condition and 2015 yeah it was a bit of luck but we still executed enough to block that punt and plus Harbaugh is a terrible bowl coach and Dantonio is a good bowl coach and mark Dantonio won big ten Championship not to mention Dantonio beat Ohio State and Michigan hasn’t even won the big ten East
@@drewlbers
dantonio has a lower win percentage because of the abysmal last 2 years, but his win percentage against top-10 teams is way higher.
maybe it would mean something if Harbaugh had beaten dantonio when MSU has a winning record.
A quarterback named lewerkie happened...
Jimmini the Critic Don’t forget tyler o’conner aka trash can
I had high Hope's for Lewerki in his first year. Then he greatly disappointed me
Two Lugz stop misspelling it is lewerke and he holds every passing record at MSU he is statistically the best qb
Chach Wa you can hold as many records as you want but if you can’t bring your team to a decent bowl game and win then that’s not a good QB. He is by far not the best QB to go to MSU for sure
Jimmini the Critic can you pin all of it on him he had an awful o line a terrible oc and no running back of value
Can we request a downfall of Miami football? From one of the greatest teams ever in 01 to where they are now has been crazy to see
after 2016, 2018, and 2019 it was only a matter of time for one of these downfall vids
Bro you GOT to cover the downfall of the Longhorns UT
The downfall is when the Beg Ten moved MSU to the east division. They averaged a 10-3 record before the move and 8-5 after. I think averaging 7 to 9 wins is what to expect from MSU.
Huh???? They always played in the East.
Michigan St has not always played in the Big 10 East. They were in the Legends Division of the Big 10. Legends: Iowa, Michigan, Michigan State, Minnesota, Nebraska and Northwestern. Leaders: Illinois, Indiana, Ohio State, Penn State, Purdue and Wisconsin. They moved to the east in 2014. herosports.com/college-football/big-ten-legends-leaders-ahah
@@johnadams5678 based on the Legends and Leaders era there was no east and west. They played on the Legends side with Michigan until Maryland and Rutgers were added in 2014. Not clear on exactly what you're trying to argue.
@@johnadams5678 they also have two Cotton Bowl appearances while in the East, once against Baylor and the other in the College Football Playoff against Bama which was the zenith on the Dantonio era. So not sure what you're talking about.
My point is they play Michigan, Ohio St, and Penn St on a yearly basis. They go from having to play just Michigan every year to now adding OSU and PSU. When you play teams that are traditionally better then you, you lose. That helped the decline from 2015 to now. They are 6-9 against those teams in that time span.
Thank you for this video GO GREEN
NoExcuseCooking GO WHITE
It's kinda surprising and sad that the AD's went behind his back and hired who they wanted instead of who he was grooming to tkae his place.
This is heartbreaking for an MSU fan
Heavy and unfortunate downfall. But a lot of this is on Dantonio for being stubborn and not making necessary coaching changes and for not recruiting more 4/5 star players.
Kinda interesting seeing what Mel Tucker is trying to do in terms or recruiting and coaching staff. Should be fun to see how his coaching tenure plays out.
@@MrChicotg Dantonio was great.
@@upbeatplays5264 Yes he was. But his last few years 2016-2019 (with the exception of 2017) were just bad. I feel bad for him, because I think he really wanted a couple of more years to retire on top, but he just didn't like making coaching changes and unfortunately it showed.
Other than that, I hope they commemorate his time as a head coach by building him a statue or something, because they had a lot of success under him.
@@MrChicotg Yeah, I guess that's true.
Bro let that guy get his money in his contract
Who's watching this after they upset michigan and #8 northwestern?
Do a Video on what happened to North Carolina Basketball
I miss Narduzzi
He left because the University hired a search party for a new head coach behind Dantonio's back.
Things have turned around currently
NOTI GANG
Much love JC!
Coach DiAntonio had a very good run @MSU. Goblue!
They not only lost their coach, but are losing the recruiting war.
He maxed out Michigan State. They were tough. Nothing lasts forever. Good Bye , Good Luck.
He refused to fire his church buddies. If he would have hired an outside offensive mind it could have worked longer.
Hold up... its not honorable to take the money that was negotiated and agreed in your contract? You stepped out of line there. That is like accusing a smart rich man of being a thief for using the tax code to his advantage.
2:55 not leveon bell
And we’re back on top again
5-7
4-8
this comment aged nicely lmao
@@markjackson6431 lmao yeah… at least we got basketball and hockey
Ohio State motto, "cheat or get beat"
seeing this now is funny
Dantonio got too complacent and too loyal to certain players and coaches
I went to MSU during the middle to end of Damtonio’s career at MSU. Sure he brought me some of my favorite moments like 27-23 and the field gold against Ohio, but I will not forget how horrible to sex scandals were with his team and on campus. It was a terrifying and weak time to be a Spartan, so what did Dantonio do?? He Took the Money and ran. MSU really needs to rebuild both culturally and on the field now (And I think deep down we know which is more important)
3 yards and a cloud of dust is thinking from the 1960s.in the 2020s it’s all about having a great quarterback and surrounding him with talent. MSU was great at developing 3 star players but when you get past the great 3 of Hoyer Cook and Cousins, the quarterback play was terrible and their record reflected it. You could blame this on many things or it may be a combination of thing like old school thinking, poor line play, poor coaching snd bad play calling and average skill position players. I hope MSU gets good again it’s hard to compete with the big boys when you are constantly ranked 30-50 in recruiting. They do make a lot of what they get, but there is a huge drop off between OSU and bamas 3rd snd 4th string snd MSUs.
Video Idea: What happened to Colorado Buffaloes Football
Lol nothing has ever happened to the Colorado Buffaloes. The end. GO BIG RED
SeaHusker they won a National Championship and almost won a second in 2003 if they weren’t screwed over
SeaHusker so your a Cornell fan
Chandler Tingle They “almost” in 2003 like we “almost” won our 6th in 2001 lol
SeaHusker didn’t they smoke y’all this season tho
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣my coach stays loyal to the rules
2020 Michigan state coming to Washington UW..I'm from Lansing Michigan..the hood magic from..go Green
Wait, who hasn’t fallen? Bama, LSU and Clemson, maybe OSU can only say a word
How about an update on this video? Didn't age well...... smh
Anything for the Win, isn't that right Mork?
Thank goodness they didn't hire Luke Fickell, the next Butch Davis.