Fantastic review/comparison - nicely done! The only recommendation I’d make is for you crank up the “Analog” knob on Mini-D to around 50-75%. It does a nice job at subtlety increasing the randomness on various internal parameters such as electronics noise, oscillator drift, & oscillator phase lock
If the akai has a tube emulator that's how you can get that bite, basically any distortion would do it, its the same for these software emulations of the 303 which can sound weaker initially but with compression and distortion you can add in more thickness.
It Was Kinda Funny Listening To The Multiple Times You Call The Mini D The Model D, Especially at The End... Which Proves One Thing... You Are Actually Impressed With The Software Version From Akai More Than You Wanna Admit it. 😂😂🤣🤣
Yes - Akai/Air (WayOutWare)’s Odyssey is a 2600 emulation, and pretty damn good one even though the plug-in code is over 15 years old. When WayOutWare released it originally, it was the only emulation that was endorsed by the actual 2600 creator. When InMusic bought WayOutWare, they brought it over. The filter is fantastic on the Odyssey, BTW.
reason why you have that machine gun effect when re-triggering detuned notes is, that the osc's start phase is always re-triggered at the exact same position. which is what an analog synth simply doesn't do. on an analog synth the oscs start to run as soon as you power on the synth (and never stop running until you actually turn it off) and either a gate or an env opens the amp, when you hit a key. so the oscs in an analog synth are free-running constantly, even if you do not hit any key. most of digital synth fake the free running by randomizing the osc start phase with every keystroke - which still isn't the same as analog constant free running, but it at least gets rid of the sample-like machine gun repetitive behavior that the mini d gives you. while sometimes that exact repetitive behavior is beneficial for certain applications/music styles, for typical analog sounds it is absolutely not - at least not with short attacks. so some synths give you the option to turn this behavior on and off - in some synths you are actually able to define the start phase of the osc within its cycle - which can be extremely beneficial for certain sounds - especially when you mix two or more oscs on either the same pitch or one osc one octave shifted without any micro-detuning - though that' s_zero_ to do with analog sound. so that the mini d does mandatorily re-trigger the phases of the oscs without the option to turn it off is an absolute no-go - as it actually aims to provide you with typical analog characteristics, of which re-triggering oscs are definitely not belong to, as that is a "feature" only found in synths since they are made digitally - and it simply doesn't sound analog, as analog synths never behave like that. i can't believe that these mistakes are still done in 2022.
Have you ever tried recreating presets from the arturia mini V plugin on your Behringer Model D? I can't wait to get my Model D. Having the arturia mini v, Behringer Model D, and Mini D plugin is a triple threat. Don't think I'll need to buy a Moog now.
Then hopefully a prophet, obxa and cs-80 clone then I’m selling all my synths and just focusing on plugins and the force 🎉maybe a Jupiter and mono poly too but not as necessary for me
Fantastic review/comparison - nicely done! The only recommendation I’d make is for you crank up the “Analog” knob on Mini-D to around 50-75%. It does a nice job at subtlety increasing the randomness on various internal parameters such as electronics noise, oscillator drift, & oscillator phase lock
Yes exactly. If you had increased the 'analog' knob you would have gotten much closer to the Behringer.
Dope addition to the MPC format 🔥
If the akai has a tube emulator that's how you can get that bite, basically any distortion would do it, its the same for these software emulations of the 303 which can sound weaker initially but with compression and distortion you can add in more thickness.
It Was Kinda Funny Listening To The Multiple Times You Call The Mini D The Model D, Especially at The End... Which Proves One Thing... You Are Actually Impressed With The Software Version From Akai More Than You Wanna Admit it. 😂😂🤣🤣
10.30 Bahringer Poly D pops like that, forgot to mention I got Arturia Mini D for free.
Is the oddysey the 2600? I am too new to synths to know
Yes - Akai/Air (WayOutWare)’s Odyssey is a 2600 emulation, and pretty damn good one even though the plug-in code is over 15 years old. When WayOutWare released it originally, it was the only emulation that was endorsed by the actual 2600 creator. When InMusic bought WayOutWare, they brought it over. The filter is fantastic on the Odyssey, BTW.
@@EnochLight are you sure it is not an emulation of the eponymous "Arp Odyssey" ?
I think Arp Odyssey and Arp 2600 are two different beasts.
It's the Odyssey on the MPC...not the 2600
@@MrMissingReel the odyssey does look different. Thanks for that
@@teddybearasaurus
Does it?!
Obviously you know nothing about synths...
You need to use the Analog know to get more analog-sounding modelling.
reason why you have that machine gun effect when re-triggering detuned notes is, that the osc's start phase is always re-triggered at the exact same position. which is what an analog synth simply doesn't do. on an analog synth the oscs start to run as soon as you power on the synth (and never stop running until you actually turn it off) and either a gate or an env opens the amp, when you hit a key. so the oscs in an analog synth are free-running constantly, even if you do not hit any key. most of digital synth fake the free running by randomizing the osc start phase with every keystroke - which still isn't the same as analog constant free running, but it at least gets rid of the sample-like machine gun repetitive behavior that the mini d gives you. while sometimes that exact repetitive behavior is beneficial for certain applications/music styles, for typical analog sounds it is absolutely not - at least not with short attacks. so some synths give you the option to turn this behavior on and off - in some synths you are actually able to define the start phase of the osc within its cycle - which can be extremely beneficial for certain sounds - especially when you mix two or more oscs on either the same pitch or one osc one octave shifted without any micro-detuning - though that' s_zero_ to do with analog sound. so that the mini d does mandatorily re-trigger the phases of the oscs without the option to turn it off is an absolute no-go - as it actually aims to provide you with typical analog characteristics, of which re-triggering oscs are definitely not belong to, as that is a "feature" only found in synths since they are made digitally - and it simply doesn't sound analog, as analog synths never behave like that. i can't believe that these mistakes are still done in 2022.
Have you ever tried recreating presets from the arturia mini V plugin on your Behringer Model D? I can't wait to get my Model D. Having the arturia mini v, Behringer Model D, and Mini D plugin is a triple threat. Don't think I'll need to buy a Moog now.
hey fam love the video i want to ask you a fav can you please make a few talkbox patch's for this plugin
I think it's funny that the only ones who dont make money these days from the Minimoog is Moog.
Name Licensing makes more
@4:11 sounds amazing
Intro kinda was in the same path as Aaliyah try again.
prolly a juno clone coming next
That's what I think
Then hopefully a prophet, obxa and cs-80 clone then I’m selling all my synths and just focusing on plugins and the force 🎉maybe a Jupiter and mono poly too but not as necessary for me