SUPERBURGER: The Man w Split Nationalities. 6/15 "Dutch National Anthem = You Deserve Better"
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- SUPERBURGER: The Man w Split Nationalities. 6/15 "Dutch National Anthem = You Deserve Better." The Dutch National Anthem doesn't mention the name of the country. But it does reference 3 totally different countries. And not just any countries...
#comedy #netherlands #DutchCulture #DutchPolitics #amsterdam
Performed at MC Theater Amsterdam in June, 2014.
Taped by Nathan Tytor. Edited by Daniel Hillel-Tuch.
Music by New Cool Collective.
Hi, I'm Greg Shapiro. Comedian. American. Dutchman. I came to Amsterdam to work with Boom Chicago comedy theater, and I never left. Along the way, I've hosted 'Comedy Central News,' I've written a book 'How to Be Orange,' and I've worked side by side with Boom Chicago alumni such as Seth Meyers, Jordan Peele and Jason Sudeikis.
Yes, I'm the voice of Trump in the 'Netherlands Second' video from 'Zondag Met Lubach,' with 50 million views.
I'm now working on a 'Daily Show for the EU' called 'United States of Europe.' And I'm co-host of 'The Amsterdam Comedy Podcast.' It's all free. Please subscribe! It really helps.
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The Dutch anthem is the first National anthem of the world and was originaly not meant as an anthem....
Not really. Japan's is way older. And the fact the Wilhelmus wasn't meant as an anthem should have given everyone the good sense not to use it as one.
Japan's lyrics are taken from a poem that's older but the melody dates from around 1880. The Wilhelmus already existed over 3 centuries before that. Since some national anthems are without words, clearly for something to be an Anthem it requires a melody. Therefore the Japanese Anthem didn't come about till 1880.
And good sense has nothing to do with it. It works for us, you don't get to tell us what to do, which is btw a very Dutch attitude. So we don't brag about our nationality as much as others do. We think that's more sensible.
The Wilhelmus's current music is not that old, though; it was set to new music in the early 19th century (listen to this to get a feel for the original melody: th-cam.com/video/t-VziGoX19w/w-d-xo.html). Also, it's only been the national anthem since 1932, and even then the Polish one is older and longer-serving anyway (probably pre-12th C, and the official anthem since 1919). But if we're really looking for the oldest anthem, that is to say, the one that goes back the furthest in its current form, music, and lyrics included, it's probably the Danish one (1835). God Save the King/Queen is older (1745), but it has never been the _de jure_ official national anthem of the UK; however, the music was the same as the official anthems of Imperial Russia (until 1833), the United States (although unofficially), Switzerland (until 1961) and, oh irony, the German Empire (until 1918).
It's true that the melody of the Wilhelmus was changed (as was the Japanese one from a melody written 11 years before) but the new melody was actually also old. The newer melody of the Wilhelmus does date back to the 17th century. However, do not think that I am trying to prove that the Dutch Anthem is the very first but I simply didn't agree with Japan because the music hadn't even been written until 1880. The music for the Dutch Anthem was from the 17th century as such, even though it wasn't used for the Wilhelmus till much later and other Anthems also have older melodies. So I just disagreed with that particular argument for Japan.
In the end it depends on what sort of criteria you set what the oldest anthem is. I think your explanation demonstrates that as well. Of course both the lyrics and music of the Wilhelmus were written (albeit separately) before 1700. But the two didn't get matched up till much later and as you correctly state it didn't become an official Anthem till 1932. Of course the Polish melody is older, the Japanese lyrics are older...So yeh, that's sort of hard to qualify really.
Fair enough. As you might have guessed, I find the construction of national anthems particularly interesting - and revealing. Both the Wilhelmus and GSTK/Q are part of a rather old-fashioned style of anthem that focuses on a princely house rather than a country: clearly pre-nationalist, from an era in which territorial borders were much more fluent and haphazard than they are today. And in both cases, I think that presents challenges to their modern use, both lyrically and musically. Although they are accepted and respected, I think there is a case to be made that neither is very much loved (compare the use of Jerusalem as an informal English anthem, for instance). Compare it to the way in which anthems such as those of the Swedish and Portuguese have been woven into popular culture, to say nothing about countries like the USA or Canada. In short: I think the Wilhelmus is a great, historically fascinating piece of music, but a rubbish anthem because its lyrics are anything but self-explanatory, and it is musically lacking for what it's meant to achieve in today's world. We deserve better.
Actually, I am quite pleased with this national anthem. It refers to the birth of the Dutch nation within a European context. It avoids bombastic nationalism. (We narrowly escaped an alternative anthem: "_Wie Neerlands bloed door ad'ren vloeit, van vreemde smetten vrij_ ...",.. That would have been a real embarrassment..) It underlines that the Netherlands was not founded on a selfish rebellion against a legitimate authority, but that we were forced to the act of civil disobedience for reasons of religious freedom and freedom of speech! What could be a better expression of the tolerant nation we would like to be!
If only y’all actually were a little more tolerant
Another misunderstanding: the "smetten" (blemishes) in "Wien Neerlands Bloed" do not refer to any ethnic origin, but to freedom from collaboration with the French. However, the allusion had grown sufficiently shady by 1900 to have the government replace the line with a more neutral phrase. Of course, in 16-century terms what you call a "forced act of civil disobedience" would have been seen as a "selfish rebellion" by virtually everyone else; the whole concept of national civil self-governance didn't really exist and was - rightly - seen as revolutionary.
Still, I think the Wilhelmus is a pretty horrible anthem for a few reasons: it refers to the sovereign, and ONLY the sovereign, never the people (much like God Save the King/Queen). Also, it's hardly invigorating musically. The melody was re-written in the early 19th century and they honestly made a bit of a mess of it; the original melody is much more appealing but similarly unsuitable as football world cup material. If you want to get a taster of the original, listen to this: th-cam.com/video/t-VziGoX19w/w-d-xo.html.
Maybe a bit late, but why do we need to be more tolerant? I'm curious because you obviously don't know what you're talking about lol
TheCocksmuggler | On the world ranking list of most tolerant nations, the Netherlands is on a meager 6th place. Lagging behind Iceland, Canada, Ireland, Luxembourg and New Zealand. www.prosperity.com/rankings
Zoe Kirk might refer to this. If she doesn't refer to facts, we could/should tolerate her opinion.
Your question about the necessity to be more tolerant is a very interesting one. She probably favors more tolerance, but will face a dilemma when being confronted with someone arguing for less tolerance. However, she appears to be a socialist and those always have had a tricky relationship with tolerance. "Inside every socialist is a totalitarian screaming to get out."
You're phrasing that as if 6th place isn't really that impressive, it's actually a really good ranking if you consider how many countries are on that list. Therefore I wouldn't call it meager, especially if you consider the nations above us. Ofcourse we could tolerate her opinion, but my gut feeling said it had something to do with the whole anti Sinterklaars movement and I was trying to figure out if this was true or not. Because The Netherlands is infact, as you pointed out before, one of the most tolerant countries out there. And there's a line between being tolerant and having a self centered need to help everybody and anyone to make yourself feel better.
After so many years, you d think he d read up on Dutch history and the story behind that anthem a bit 😅
Its such a beautiful anthem.
The ones who agree with him, haven’t done research well enough. Just like this dude ...
I can give so many arguments on this, but that guy is not even worth all of my energy to do that.
Have respect for other nationalities and never make fun of national history and things such as anthems.
Im proud Im Dutch, and Im proud of the Dutch anthem and the wonderful historic part it symbolises.
Het is natuurlijk comedie ;D. Ik kon er wel om lachen, wat niet betekent dat ik t Wilhelmus dan niet waardeer. Ik vind het door de geschiedenis die het vertelt een van de mooiste volksliederen die er bestaan.
Hang on The Wilhelmus was never meant to be a National Anthem. Also Germany did not exist when it was written. Wilhelm was just pointing out that he was not of Dutch birth. The Spain bit is much better. The Dutch revolt was not against Spain but the presence of Spanish troops. Wilhelm was actually trying very hard not to make this about independence, oh and also he liked living, and the Spanish king tended to make you go away when I really did not like you ( Which SURPRISE in the end he did to poor Wilhelm )
Actually, Wilhelm wasn't pointing out anything as he didn't write it at all. Matter of factly it isn't know what was meant by "duytsche bloed" It can be interpreted in two different ways. That are grammatically identical but pronounced differently. Both have their origins in "Diets" which was a word used by pretty much all middle Germanic tribes. And was used by said tribes to refer to their own people. Over time a distinction between the early Netherlands and the german states emerged and the word got it's own versions on both sides of the border. Deutsch for most of modern day Germany and Duytsch for most of modern day Netherlands. But within early Dutch, it was used to refer to both our own people and language and the language/people east of the border. The first was pronounced as Duiytsch (NL) Deuytsch (DE)
And as there are no audio files from around the year 1600 well never know what the author meant... Either it is a referring to Willem's German origin or it is referring to willems dedication to his "volk" the people he was fighting for as opposed to the people he was born from.
Indeed van Aldegonde wrote it
Duits betekende het zelfde als het woordje Dutch in het Engels in de 16 de eeuw.
when we named it german blood germany was not a country yet
I don't care that it wasn't that historically accurate. I laughed out loud for the first time in days.
Coming from a guy who’s country is less than 250 years old and don’t have a history. For what it’s worth I love the Dutch national anthem really powerful story.
Sadly, most people don't understand the Dutch anthem. Not even a lot of Dutchmen. The song is sang from the point of view of Willem van Oranje, when we sing it, we can be him for a little moment. Him, the brave man who led the revolution, who fought for an independent fatherland, a fatherland that did not exist yet, which then became the worlds most free and wealthy nation for a century long. The song is not about The Netherlands, but about the man who made The Netherlands possible.
Imagine the effect if the US anthem stipulated that the people of the US have roots all around the world. Perhaps then they'll be more likely to be able to point out on a map those countries they are at war with.
hehe
Clearly Greg is still an American and has no clue. Its about where Willem comes from, Nassau in Germany, a split from the remnants of Bourgondy(Orange), which combined much of the Netherlands. About a break up from Spain because of tirannical religious ideas that shaped a new country from a mixture of land from the Holy Roman Empire to create a new coutry. So he describes who he served, but no longer. You have the why from a religious point of few, from a historical p-o-v, cultural p-o-v. (the language p-o-v is missing).
The point he's making (and about which you apparently have no clue) is that an anthem is basically a marketing tool: it is part of what identifies you to the rest of the world. If an anthem isn't self-explanatory, and this comments section pretty much proves *that*, it's fairly useless in that regard. To anyone without knowledge of the context, it's a very weird text. And I even think a sizeable chunk of the Dutch population would be at a loss explaining its meaning. Pretty song, perhaps - suitable national anthem - no.
Nassau ligt dat niet op de grens van belgie en nederland ?? Baarle hertog en baarle nassau ?
Search (in English) for County of Nassau.
I consider Greg to be more Dutch than a lot of people I meet and see.
C'mon .no matter it's historical origin, it was a weird choice by queen Emma to choose this Anthem. Yes Greg makes huge error's but this is comedy not some history class.
The name of our country is actually in the national anthem. In the 10th verse (most people don't more than the first verse).
Also that verse says Neerland because it fits better I guess? It's in there at least.
The problem is you´re not Dutch, you miss out on the feeling of this anthem gives and the story behind it. BTW I think the music alone is one of the most beautiful compositions. Very bold and proud. I would never want any other anthem
Steensma, eh? Wouldn't you prefer a Frisian anthem -?
We're uncomfortable to say we're on top I think. Even Belgium is more proud of their country. You go to Brussels, there is a park there with a huge Belgian flag suspended under an arch. And they're a tiny country where half of them don't even understand what the other half is saying.
Still, pretty nifty anthem.
Vlaanderen does understand Wallonië but not the other way around. In flemisch schools they learn dutch and french. In Wallonië they only learn french.
no they learn dutch but they don't pay as much attention to it as the flemish pay attention to french
Exept here in Belgium, most people just mumble stuff or do not sing at all when it comes to the anthem.
What pride concerns, well.... when all goes well, we're proud. When not, we're anything but belgian.
Lol nah we aren't proud at all... we basically hate ourselves. we're not even a real nation
Hispanje is in the anthem because its written before the 80 years war with spain. But since the king of spain in that time was offcourse a monarch (seen as a gift of god) he was also respected by willem of orange. Thats how spain is in the dutch anthem.
Admittedly the standup comedy version is a bit limited in scope. Someday I'll have to do a proper drill-down into the whole text
Awesome!
Fool. This is the finest national anthem in the world. Signed, a non-Dutchman.
het duitse bloed gedeelte is not refereing to German.
Paul J. Zimmerman
Leer Engels
Paul J. Zimmerman
Leer Engels
Leer engels of Nederlands leer niet bijde talen voor de helft
woowh jullie hebben echt issues. waarschijnlijk spreek ik beter dan Engels dan jullie ik heb er 2 jaar gewerkt.
bovendien de gast van dit filmpje begrijpt ook wel nederlands.
Paul J. Zimmerman
Ja en😂 je gaat toch geen talen combineren in 1 zin??
The song is written from the perspective of Wilhelm of Orange/Nassau and he was from german blood.
The original "Dutch" national anthem melody was an old french song. www.waterdunen.nl/frames-wilhelmus.html
Mwah. The Netherlands, being a country since the 1570s. From the same Dutch anthem:
"Dat u de Spanjaards krenken,
o edel Neerland zoet,
als ik daaraan gedenke,
mijn edel hart dat bloedt."
And so they fought.
True, all true
Actually “duitsen bloed” meant Dutch, but it changed and “Duits” means German.
Helemaal waar! XD
Jemig, doe even normaal allemaal! Dit is grappig en niet als geschiedenisles bedoeld. Natuurlijk weet Greg zelf ook dat het niet helemaal klopt wat hij zegt. Is dit de eerste keer dat jullie stand-up comedy zien of zo?
Another American talking shit about countries they don't understand despite having lived there... Of course the city has responsabilities over the side-walk. Naturally they should include other countries if they make a huge part of your history.
Maglorian: even comedians should not make jokes about subjects they know nothing about!!!
Nope, he's free to make jokes about whatever he wants (isn't freedom of expression nice that way?).
Though I'll grant you that knowing a little something about a subject could improve the jokes, but it's not the necessity you make it out to be.
Good thing then that he was taught about the anthem in the assimilation course (resistance is futile), fulfilling your requirement of 'knowing his stuff', wouldn't you agree?
Yet the point remains: He's a comedian, not a professor of history. Go seek contact with Maarten van Rossum if you fancy more of that kind of content, or read a nice book.
I'd recommend The Embarrassment of Riches by Simon Schama. uwu
He stated/hinted a few times that he knows what the song is actually about
May be I have a different sense of humour?? I love laughing and Steven Colbert is my favourite comedian and his jokes are superb!!
Good! It's nice to laugh isn't it? and Stephen Colbert is quite a legend (I really liked his 'press conference with Helen Thomas at Bush's press correspondents dinner).
and if this isn't your cup of tea in terms of humour, then I hope that you'll be able to find lots of comedians that will suit you.
have a nice day!
Dutch History has been corrupted, not even in school you learn the real history of the Netherlands. I know Maarten van Rossum, the self proclaimed America expert, doesn't even know half the truth, LOL.
I have heard that the Dutch national anthem used to be "Wien Néerlands bloed door d'aderen vloeit, van vreemde smetten vrij..." and then some more lines that I don't know. I am not sure why they changed it. "Duitsen" in our anthem actually means Dutch in old Dutch and "de koning van Hispanje heb ik altijd geëerd" refers to Spain having occupied the Netherlands. Besides, it says "HEB ik altijd GEËERD", so it's past tense.
Heb ik altijd geëerd wil zeggen dat hij het deed en nog altijd doet. Voltooid tegenwoordige tijd. De Engelsen zijn daar wat strikter in tegenwoordig, maar vroeger waren we in Nederland daar ook heel precies in.
A few notes: Germany did not even exist then, the German Empire wouldn't be around for centuries!
Duits (diets, whatever) used to refer to the Germanic culture and the Netherlands were certainly part of that in contrast to the *NOT* Germanic Spanish.
yes Greg, there are more anthems that mention another country in the first few sentences. But, Germany didn't exist back then anyway.
Is this true? I'll check. Love it
The anthem we always sing just one part of the 15 remaining. But most people only now the first part (including me)
do you prefer lyrics like... "those who have dutch blood , free from foreign contamination" that was until 1932 the case
Can you once be proud of NL?
Is deze man nederlands? Zijn uitsraak is geweldig
we did not choose anything historically.. the oranges made that our anthem in the 1930's to make themselves more influential on our national history. They simply could not find any other song with their own name in there (even though they arent really descendants of that orange).
vive la republique
Fark Stein: Exactly, the dutch royal family are not descendants of the d'Orange. They stole it... The only way to proof it is by DNA testing.
Fark Stein eigenlijk is dat ook niet helemaal waar want het volk wou laten zien dat ze achter willem stonden enzo dus zei hebben het bedacht. Het verzet tegen de spaanse troepen ging dat voor de poorten van bezette steden zingen en om support te krijgen.
Ze schijnen toch wel af te stammen van de Oranjes, al zij het niet van Willem zelf. De onvruchtbaarheidsmythe aldus sommige historici heeft een zwaar falsifieerbaar fundament.
Verder honderd keer liever Willempie dan Rutte als staatshoofd.
waterdrager93 same Willempie heb ik veel liever dan die klojo van een Rutte
Totally agree as a Dutchman! No historical explanation rights the poor.choice of words of the anthem.
But also keep in mind that this comes from a man who calls us 'Dutch' in his first language. ;)
WHahaaha, this had me floored :)
I am from The Netherlands and I have always thought the exact same thing lol. I don't have German blood and I don't even know who the fuck the king of Spain is... i hate those sentences in the anthem...
I think Greg needs to redo his integration exam, he missed a thing or two;
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelmus
Piet Muijs: tell the so called dutch "historians" to quit teaching lies...
Surprisingly there's no mention of Argentina.
Right!? They should add it (to make my joke work better).
Btw yeah its pretty normal / common to sweep the 'stoep' in frond of your own home. We all do it over here lol. All Dutch people at least.
First time when I learned it I was like wtf? why german?
Haha. Very entertaining :-). And the worst thing is: our anthem is probably written by a Belgian dude, Filips van Marnix van Sint-Aldegonde, which explains why the text is all weird. Probably tripping on chocolate and frites when he wrote that song :p.
Fly Me To The Moon you forget that at that time Belgium didnt exist aswell so the one who wrote it can be seen as just a Dutchman, not a Belgian
Juttje _97 ha, you're absolutely right!
.Oh please follow Dutchies .,who are trying to defend the National anthem in this comment section. We all agree 'among ourselves ' Wilhelmus is confusing to say the least. Especially as it been picked out by Queen Emma, centuries after the Spanish wars,. We got a lot of things to be proud about.. But the Anthem is not one of them.
Duits didn't mean German in the 16 th century it meant you guess it Dutch.
My instructor said the same thing... then I asked 'Waar is Nassau?'
Greg Shapiro for Minister-president
If you sing the Dutch nation anthem don't put your hand on your heart. Some people do it, but it's wrong. It's American.
This is no honor to Spain it is sarcastic you would think that he knows
Trump also was being sarcastic.
@@gregshapiro what do you mean?
The British national anthem doesn't mention Britain either and waving the union flag is seen as a bit fascist ever since the skinheads appropriated it four decades ago. It seems the British don't need to wave a flag to remember who they are anyway. You should ask most Brits what the second verse of the national anthem is. Can't remember.
Wien Neêrlandsch bloed door d'ad'ren vloeit,
Wien 't hart klopt fier en vrij,
Wie voor zijn volk van liefde gloeit,Verheff' den zang als wij!
Hij roem' met allen, welgezind,
Den onverbreekb'ren band,
Die Neêrland en Oranje bindt:
Vorstin en Vaderland.
funny to know that we had a different national anthem, but was changed by queen whilhelmina. Wien Neêrlands bloed
Actually, it's Dietse Bloed … and apparently that's a family name of some far away relatives of Willem van Oranje, the first one … and the one in the Anthem is a second Wilhelm(us), and he is from Friesland, not Germany … so basically our Royal Family isn't Van Oranje Nassau … but 'Dietse' … also Nassau is an inherited title (from Italy) as well as Orange (from France) … so where exactly that German thing came in i'm not sure (some where some of them shaged with some German people also), and more confusion probably came in because Dietse means 'Volks' or we also now Diets (which is German or Dutch, sort of like way back). In a sense it's pretty funny, because if you follow the inheritance of the Thrown, the family on the thrown is just 'Diets', aka. just some dudes from Friesland, that happen to have the family name 'Dietse' … and were some far away relatives of the actual royal family, but they had no-one to take up the thrown so these Back Causins from Friesland got appointed…
Do agree though we disserve better, i'm all for Andre Hazes version 'Nederland oh Nederland'
At least their are no BOMBS in it!
As a dutch person this is w.ay more fun
It isnt duitsland its diets whats. Old. Dutch for volk (people)
luckely, we barely ever sing the anthem... last time i sang it i was 12 years old i think xD. but yeah, we cant change it, its history
Yeah hes right about our Anthem. Its indeed weird we sing this either its true, we are from german blood, just like the belgians, Luxemburgers even the english are germanic to me honest xD On one side I'd like to change it to a more "national" Anthem but the reason why we don't is because it is the Oldest Anthem of the world. Its a world record no one will ever be able to beat lol. Unless people invent a time machine, go back into time and create one before we did lol. Its also beautiful cuz there is so much history forged into one song. Though I'd like to have a true national song to just bribe about how good our nation is that would be nice aswell XD I mean we kinda worked hard for it to make it as it is. Just like the French Anthem, their song is brutal xD I like it, very military-ich. I mean we were the last nation to ever succesfull conquer ALL OF THE UK! by military force, Such a small country as our could do this. We spread our propaganda all over england making england lords to hate their own and join us xD and then send our full navy and army to invade LOL rip england it was.
No but to be honest. We should keep the old one, cuz its so old and contains so much history.
The song is actually ment as satire/ sarcasm
Simply you do not know the facts and history behind the anthem
Good point ! There’s more & more to the story every time I check. I’ll have to write some more jokes.
@@gregshapiro good answer😂
I can respect that, but don’t forget to make jokes about the Southern Netherlands, Belgium 🇧🇪 🇳🇱
Try the Frysk anthem. That's a nice one.
The dutch dont really sjng the national anthem a lot, only with sports and kingsday
Deustchen bloed is old dutch for arisch bloed
not one dutch understand the duitse bloed
*Checks comments to see how many Dutch people trying to talk themselves out of it.* Well then, as expected.
BjornBS hahaha sounds like you know the national history better?
Well, I have a Dutch mother... and I have lived in the Netherlands for about 20 years now.
So your reaction is an insult towards your own mother aswell? Rude..
And Im curious. Tell me the history of the 80 years war than ...
I don't quite get your logic how it would be perceived as insult but w/e. And the 80 year war... That was basicall the indipendance war for the Netherlands, which at that moment I think was still called Bavaria/The seven provinces. Basically getting rid of Spanish dominion and what-not. I never really bother learning all that stuff.
Well if you dont know what the history behind the anthem is, you do not need to critisize it if Dutch people do not like what is said about it.
You are insulting the Dutch people like they’re complaining assholes. Well complaining is a thing, but we are also very tolerant and nice people.
National history or national anthems should not be made fun of. So dont be surprised if Dutch people are complaining about this ‘comedy’.
So if you state that the Dutch responders are trying to talk themselves out of things that arent even true... why are you reacting like this comedian is right...
Forgive me if your reaction was not meant this way, but I hope you understand my disagreements with your reaction to this.
Ill explain my previous comment. If you blame Dutch people for complaining and that that is to be expect from that, you’re blaming your own mother for being the same.
I didnt mean to create this discussion, but I hope I have convinced you that your comment is a bit misplaced and insulting towards the Dutch people.
(I think Americans do not like if we make fun of their independence ((for what the Dutch independence was their inspiration))
The reason why they sing that we are german is becuse wilhelm was born in german.
Nice for you trying to be funny, but please, next time do your homework better. So many flaws... ;-)
We just aren't nationalist
Its not like that, you need to be a real dutch person to understand...
That's a place no American can go,....just saying.
Only Dutch comments...
There are 26 Parts though 😂
Danique Lindsen 15 🙃 all first letters form: Willem van Nazzov (Willem van Nassau)
Juttje _97 I was being dramatic 😂😉 I know thanks
Hahaha It wasnt my intention to be mean or rude towards you :)
Juttje _97 was je niet 😂😂
Its not duitse its deutshe bloed a german group of people that lived in west Europa
the first part days dietse bloed not duitse bloed so not german blood but dietsen a people from center netherlands
Hahaha ben jij Nederlands
If we were not invated we werent the country we are Now . And Its the first nacuonal song in the world
But Funny look at iT
Funny. America thinks they better. Let it go
Maybe we just need a remix
www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/08/dutch-need-to-pump-up-the-pace-of-the-wilhelmus-say-experts/
what about the american anthem? you guy's can't shut up about your flag.
We still envy spain for the 80 years war XD
Trade country...
I feel offended by this 🙁
Hi Mitchell! Sorry to offend. Maybe we just need a remix. www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/08/dutch-need-to-pump-up-the-pace-of-the-wilhelmus-say-experts/
I am dutch and i hate the anthem. If you would ask me to sing it, i would not even get past the fist sentence. It is just garbage i would not mind if was disposed of and made a new one.
Juist saying we are independent so its more mocking there failere and praising our success xd
Yeah we deserve better... The French and Roman empires also owned most of the Netherlands (except vriesland westvriesland)
Sure we weren't the Netherlands yet but the vriesen already exited back then.
Ra Senché Friezen, Friesland*
Hij heeft een punt. Nieuw liedje, iemand?
th-cam.com/video/btGcojlD2_4/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/Q_2auYMS-VM/w-d-xo.html. Vol met dooie Spanjaarden.
Yeah a new one would be nice. I believe just the lyrics different without religion in it and with more connecting elements, would be nice. But on the same music.
There is a song called Ik hou van Holland and that song fits much better
Or a dj remix
thats why i never sing the dutch anthem
I hate our national anthem. For the reasons you say. We are crazy of keeping this stupid song. Heard a new text years ago on the Paul de Leeuw witch I prefer.
Ha ha, he is right :-)
Well its not that i dont agree with the anthem, but a new songtext would be fun
Something about windmills changing the world and stampot serving in the hard times
Sinterklaas and our low number of homeless
Like things we can be proud of i guess