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Is Bobby Bias Against Takara? For Dummies
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At the end of the day we need to stop making excuses for why someone does or doesn’t like something because it should have no bearing on whether we like or don’t like something.
Why is Ditka dodging imaginary bullets like he's in the matrix? Grow up Ditka, it was a movie.
because thats the only pose Dikta was designed to do
When somebody said, “he didn’t swivel his waist in the cartoon,” I instantly messaged a friend because it was so damn funny.
I watched the review, and most of what you said made sense to me. I even went back to my copy and made sure it didn’t have the issues that yours had. I’ll admit I was excited when I received SS 3.0 and I just Transformed him and didn’t take time to notice all the things you noticed. I didn’t have most of the problems you did, but your review was fair for the copy you received. I love your content cause it’s honest…and real.
I just opened my MP-52 and I didn't have any of the build issues that BSF had in his review. I love this figure and I'm psyched to get Skywarp and Thundercracker. I've never gone in on all 3 before and I'm glad I waited.
Good for you, wish your luck continue.
It doesn't matter who makes the figure, if it comes out of the box and can't stand that's unforgivable.
Here's the funny thing
MP52 can stand on his own 🤭
@@JoeSmithGOAT if it struggles to stand on its own, that's still unforgivable. Takara has been making transformers for decades, they should be able to make a figure than can stand easily..
This is Bobby's opinion, just like it's our opinion. If he doesn't like a figure, and you do, it's fine. There are some figures I have that others say were trash and I liked and still have the figures. Noone is right or wrong. It's your preference but you can't get angry when he disagrees about a figure. Buy what you like. Good video!
I totally agree with you in principle. Except sometimes Bobby seems like he either doesn't know how to use a figure or is exaggerating some apects he perceives as negative rather than just showing it as is. Still it's his opinion, a floppy joint is a floppy joint and it's good to have different review options and opinions. That stand is definitely trash though lol.
@Bitdaddys Vids I 100% agree.
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Bobby is 100% biased against Takara. Which is fine it's his opinion and his review. But the answer to whether or not he is biased against Takara is absolutely. Just by the language and attitude he has used in so many videos it's clear. In the sit down Saturday where they first discussed Mp52 bobby has the most condescending and dismissve tone to what is just a grey prototype. He literally said that Takara was a distraction and needs to "get out of the way". Think about that he is basically saying the people who actually own the character shouldn't be making a figure of their character as if third parties are somehow more worthy of making toys than the company that actually owns the character. Hate to hear it, hate to read it, but it's the truth.
I thought I was the only one that noticed.
The 4 dummies Takara Seekers 3.0 video is really something and that was 1 of the first few instances that kinda hammers home that he has a bias against them.
There were instances prior that he expresses it but not to THAT extent where he got loud and angry about it and he's pretty much singing a similar tune in this video he's deflecting by saying 'I criticize all companies' and may not outright say that he has a bias against them but when you listen closely it's pretty obvious that he does.
I mean granted ofc, the new Starscream has flaws and it's perfectly fine to have bias, it's all opinion just as you say.
Thank you for using a specific example. You make a great point.
Also
This video is near 17 minutes long and the question 'Is Bobby biased against Takara' doesn't get answered directly. Again. A lot of deflecting and calling out other companies while not directly addressing the main topic.
It literally doesn't matter what you say, there will always be people that believe what they want to believe.
So you are an 'all or nothing' guy? Interesting.
That is the problem
@@misterFunktastical how in the world did you get that from what I said?
@@GottaDangleThatCarrot You take a side in an argument in the first half of your sentence and in the second make it an 'us vs. them (they)" argument. From another's perspective, perhaps 'they' have a valid point, that you just said didn't matter.
*Probably no need in trying to explain because (you are going to believe what you want to believe) - gold star for you.
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You don't understand what he's saying. He's not taking the pro-Bobby side, he's taking the pro-objectivity side. "They" aren't the people who disagree with Bobby, but the people who either agree or disagree because they let preconceived notions get in the way of objectivity.
@@orionlax626 I see, Understood. Syntax matters to keep misunderstanding to the minimum.
I have zero issues with my figure standing in all sorts of poses. However with that said Takara charging this much and still having quality control issues is unacceptable. It’s possible that Bobby has a very bad figure and it’s ridiculous they charged this much and still have this bad of quality. I love my figure he was worth every penny
This was the same with mine. Watching bobby's figure flop around like that, I couldn't believe the night and day difference in quality between mine and his. That just should not happen at these price points with QC.
Facts mines good but also my tail fin cracked and my thruster with one transformation and minimal use
Honestly for the copy you had, the review is spot on. The QAQC on this guy is not great, I’m waiting on a 2nd copy now. The first one I received had a few minor issues, but the main reason I sent it back was due to a major paint issue. You seem to have gotten an exceptionally poor copy, I would imagine both ankle joints are in pieces. Overall I like the figure, looks and articulation wise, but it’s just really gonna come down to the qaqc lottery, which is unacceptable for something at this price point.
I would definitely recommend him contacting Takara for a replacement if he can.
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Skullface did make some Takara related videos that were pretty much criticzing Takara and one of them that really stands out is the
*4 dummies Takara Seekers 3.0* where Skullface sounded equally as angry as he sounds here
Other vids in the same criteria could be
4 dummies: Takara's turn
4 dummies: Fanstoys faltering pt2
(Ironic cuz it's supposed to be a FT vid but goes in on Takara stuff)
Good point.
haven’t checked MP-52, but for me the best MP ever made is the Inferno mold. MP-36, MP-39 and MP-44 are great also
Inferno so underated and I think was the pinnacle of what they could do. That ladder disappearing on my first transformation left me like 😮
Bobby definitely got a Lemon. I got a lemon when I had a maketoys meteor though. Floppy, a struggle to stand up. Difficult to pose. So it happens. I'll agree the lack of waist swivel is crazy, however, I've been amazed how well the shoulder butterfly's make up for it. On a shelf, posed with the rest of his season 1 cons, this starscream looks perfect.
Did he though? There are a lot of people complaining about this Starscream. There are widespread reports of cracks around pin joints in certain areas too. I think some people are just more forgiving (and stupid) than others.
@@GareWorks mines not perfect, it's got paint issues. But it stands up fine. People are always more vocal about faulty products. I know I am. I'm not saying there aren't bad copies, there obviously are. But Bobby's is arguably the worst I've seen.
BTW, throwing in the (and stupid) is that necessary? You made valid reasonable points, then just decided to essentially call me and anyone who disagrees with you stupid. It's not stupidity, it's a different opinion.
@@GareWorks mine is great and it is a KO, no loose joints, stands fine, good paint overall.
Awesome conversation. I bought MP-52 for myself, and I'm one of the few that defended both MP Prime 3.0 and MP Hound. And I can confirm that everything that Bobby said about MP-52 is true. It's got the touch, but it hasn't got the power.
If the product don’t stand up to the price. It’s not bias. Lately. I don’t feel they been good.
I still enjoy mp-52 no matter what people say, the spitting image of the cartoon looks amazing
I don't think bias is a good term to use as Bobby is typically more toy specific than company specific.
However, one thing I've noticed is that if Bobby isn't impressed with a figure, it does tend to make him give a wee bit less credit to what a toy can do well. The opposite is true as well, where if he likes a toy he's more likely to point out what the toy does well repeatedly.
Compare his Haslab Unicron review to Optus Pexus. Optus has amazing articulation. It's one of the selling points of the toy. Bobby points out that it does, but mentions that "It had better, as that's the point". And hey, maybe that's just my own misinterpretation, but putting it like that makes it sound like "Yeah, but so what". Compare that to his Unicron review where he went on about how the size make it a focal point for his collection. I mean, isn't the Haslab Unicron supposed to be big?
But, you know, all reviewers have their own personal tastes in their reviews, that's kind of the point. Take the reviews for what they are, someone's opinions. Use them to help formulate your own, not bash their views for not matching up with how you feel.
I couldn't agree more.
Opinions are much like A holes........ everyone's got one. Some may have several.
If you like it, you win. If you don't, sell it, someone else will, or don't buy it then. I watch several reviews to get an idea of a piece, sometimes I buy blind & regret it, sometimes I am pleasantly surprised. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. You do you, you WIN!
Disclaimer IMO: The Higher the PRICE POINT the MORE I EXPECT & DEMAND PERFECTION - so far almost everything has fallen short of the PRICE POINT.
If I am going to spend BIG $ on a fig, I expect it to be PERFECT for me, or I pass. MP52/52+ didn't do it for me, PRICE POINT was OUTRAGEOUS so it was an easy PASS.
The back panels on the legs have to be pegged in for the thrusters to sit put and emgo described it perfectly, put the legs 1 click back.
But, those ones out there with cracks in the plastic right out of the box, are uncalled for
Haven't watched emgo in years. Does he still do the same stupid intro with the annoying voice?
@@MrPooPooJohn You mean the voice for Mascot? Then yes. It’s a synthesized voice. And he still has all his skits at the end of the videos.
But, you can always just watch his newer JTI (Just Transform It) videos if his antics annoy you.
Don’t think anyone does transformations better than him online imo.
@@Ryekenhoshin23 I know it's synthesized lol. It's just so dated and tired. And never funny. And pointless. Lol 😆 I'll check out his other stuff tho thanks.
Mad. Imagine having to justify your opinions in a follow up video to the video that justified your opinions. People are thick.
I will say, while I did like the collection critiques, I'm happy to take a bit of a break from those I feel it's a good refresher. And maybe collection critique could be every other week, unless there isn't really anything to talk about which has been quite recent...
6:26 Holy moly, my comment really blew up (and not in the way I'd liked). I never meant to invalidate your point about the lack of waist swivel. I agree wholeheartedly that in the 2021 MP game, a waist swivel is not a bonus but an expectation - many customers have posing creativities beyond the cartoon and comics. What I meant to do was to offer some subjective way to enjoy it to those who already have this guy through their own volition or otherwise (since the review already covered the objective aspects to a tee). I hoped that it was in line with your ideas on valueing aesthetic value, limited articulation being theoretically okay so long as it is 'appropriate for the character', and most of all, 'if you like, it you win'. Did not expect it to read as a take hot enough to start a flamewar...
That out of the way, I think this video makes a great general point. Keep doing what you're doing, feeling what you're feeling and holding the community/figures/companies to a standard they could or should be at.
People get mad or upset when they don't hear "their" opinions coming out of the mouth of others.
MP-52 has many issues, but as long as you point out the objective flaws in a figure, then there should be no accusations of confirmation bias.
As a Chug collector I feel like I'm a peasant in the court room watching the royalty fight.
I literally had none of the issues you have with your copy, thus my experience was totally different than yours. Also (and this is subjective) i think it’s one of their best looking figures and it’s absolutely the best looking seeker to date in the mp line.
Same here.
Takara has been around forever.
Standards should be higher for the king of the mountain.
They're not the king of the mountain
Not anymore though lol
Them being 'official' doesn't make them 'king of the mountain'
They even lost Pokemon because their toys sucks. Remember their chief designer retired? A lot went wrong in this 5 years.
So I thought you guys had a pic of where my Starscream is sitting. I too haven't transformed it and it's teetering on a random box until I can get to it.
I know Bobby does not endorse KO's and that is understandable, I got me a KO MP52 because I was not going to spend $250 plus for an original, and even my KO is able to stand with little issues, the paint is solid for the most part and the joints are not loose, very satisfied with it, guess I lucked out with my copy.
Sit down Monday? Love it. Lol.
Jobby ain't gonna be happy bout this.
Bobby, I admit that I have at times found myself thinking you're a little too harsh on Takara, but I would not argue with a single point made in this video. Fair play, mate.
Still have a little bit of time before I transform mine and decide if I want to go in on Takara's seekers, stick with my MakeToys, or try Deformation Space's offering. Good discussion you all had.
Hey Bobby I like my Starscream, but I got a discount on it. I might feel different if I payed the 250 for it. For that amount of money there should be no long term issues like standing.
After the Starscream 3.0 for dummies vid how could anyone not think Bobby is biased? His review was still fair though.
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Hey Bobby! Nice discussion, really got me thinking about my own confirmation bias lol on an unrelated note, I just noticed it looks like the only reason the stand didn't work for you, is because the figure was meant to be on the other side of the stand. You gotta wonder if Takara will fix the build in the reissue. I've picked up original issue and reissues of a few different Transformers in my time, ft and Takara. And I almost always find tweaks for the better in the reissue.
No it’s not the direction it’s the height of the stand. Putting him on the other side reduces the height even further due to the height of the base so it gets even worse on that side unfortunately
@@MythsAndHeroes oohh ok gotcha. Btw, would love to see a video on any new statues you might have now 🤗 Thanks for clarifying!
@15:00 You guys are totally correct. It's the Ger-Walk mode that causes the knee issue. And this is what Takara does. They ruin a great figure with stupid gimmicks which alter engineering and transformation possibilities.
MP-28, MP-45, MP-44, MP-47, MP-51, MP-52 et al.
It usually comes from needing to have door open (ruins Bumblee and makes for the snowshow feet), a Matrix holder (Prime and Hot Rod), and the pins in the head and weapons so visors can flip out and things can fold up and tuck away (MP-10's gun, Hound, Arcee, Starscream's null rays with the pins and sculpt breakup)
You know what, I had a feeling we'd see something like this, despite the vs I just knew you'd end up having to have this conversation.
11:25 LOL Bobby, you need more gentle hands
Just reminded me of you breaking couple of 3rd party and your hammer.
Whoa....this exactly could be the same conversation for my relationship to SS86 Hot Rod. You speak the truth, don't mean folks are ready to accept it.
Lol this cracks me up. I have yet to watch a review where Bobby disagrees with me and it upset me. We can all have our opinion and when something has an issue It is okay to criticize it. Your opinion doesn’t invalidate mine. If we were secure enough with our choices this wouldn’t upset you
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Honestly, I watch your reviews because I feel like they are the rare exception where there isn't a crazy level of confirmation bias.
I'm glad the discussions came back, even if it was just for a week. I enjoy these a lot. I'm one of the few who really weren't into the collection reviews, so I haven't watched the dummies series in a while. I know it's popular though, so I'll savor when the discussions come back a little more. :) That being said, I enjoyed the starscream review. I'm glad I didn't get in on it, but I feel bad for my buddy. He sold me his maketoys meteor to upgrade to the takara 2.0, and I don't know if he'll end up regretting it. Maybe his won't have the looseness that Bobby's did, and he'll be happy with it. But this wasn't a good look for Takara, lol.
To say it the best I can is, I as a person who grew up with G1 in the 80s, I rely on reviews of figures before I buy them to add to my collection especially MP size. I've followed Bobby for over a year now and have bought and passed based on his reviews and others. As far as being or having a bias, I have seen other reviewers just come out trashing certain brands even before doing an even comparison and or continuing to bash after they have done a comparison in earnest. I absolutely appreciate Bobby's reviews and his followups when he has missed something or corrected a previous review. For myself I was a completionist for Takara Masterpiece, until the prices doubled and the in hand feel for quality in my opinion fell. Keep up the solid work Bobby its appreciated.
Now I go watch the sit down Saturday.
Agreed with Bobby. Keep up the great work, Bobby.
Fandoms man, things can get crazy sometimes. Can't we all just respect one another's opinions without blowing up that is different to ours?
Like, for context, my first MP is MMC Girder. I love that thing despite everyone trashing it. In fact, I got it for cheap since people disliked it so much. That made me enjoy it all the more and was a fun reintroduction into collecting.
Anyways, sorry people got you down Bobby. I really enjoyed the review and versus and had no dog in the fight.
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Love how the 52 looks but im going to give the ds-01 a chance cause that ones looks way better. Cartoon accurate (which 52 does also) but it looks so much cleaner. And the jet mode was revealed as well and it looks very very clean as well. Way cleaner than the 52. Now all that is needed to be hoped for on that figure is the qc
My MP52 was actually pretty much perfect and now I'm accepting that I got very very lucky. But bobby's one eesh... Those ankles look absolutely weak as. Shows the inconsistent problem with Takara nowadays, good video Bobby. It's all subjective, how anyone could see the ankles on his MP52 in the video, and then say he's trashing it for the sake of trashing it needs to give their head a wobble.
DAAAAAAAAMN! That bass hits in the intro! Fuck yeah!
Robert has a point though, Sometimes it is quite "evident" that you don't like a figure or you don't do a proper research before handling a figure from the start. I hope you take all the legitimate criticism for the better.
His review of the Jiangxing Winged Dragon (Transmetal Megs) is on his reviews where his bias against Beast Wars prevented him from enjoying a figure
I haven't bought a MP seeker yet, after MP-1 I stopped buying Takra Tomy MPs until MP-32 so I'm not trying to defend either my choice in a seeker or a company I love so unconditionally that I have to buy every figure they release. I understand that since Takara Tomy is the official company and since their figures are very expensive the collectors will be highly demanding and less forgiving.
I haven't had a single seeker in hand up until now so I can't argue about materials, build, hardware or engineering but I can say that for a company that wanted their seeker to be the closest in terms of look to the original cartoon, Takara did a wonderful job. In fact when compared to all the other companies that set out to achieve the same goal Takara Tomy utterly destroyed every other company and will be very hard to surpass.
You either want a G1 to a fault cartoon look and the look category becomes as objective as any materials, paint, hardware or engineering category, or you want it to be a free interpretation and it becomes the most subjective thing in the world. When I have to evaluate a company work in the look department I need to understand what they set out to achieve and since the release of MP-32 Takara Tomy has been releasing near to perfect looks in that regard. This time wasn't different and who ever says the opposite is just lying or being bias.
In terms of built, before actually having the figure in hand I have to trust my favorite reviewers but I expect them to be highly demanding when it come to the only official TF company as I explained above. What my experience tells me is that even though I get the impression I'm not going to like a Takara Tomy MP materials, build, hardware and engineering in accordance to the reviews I normally watch when I finally buy it, normally because I can't resist the look, I end up loving everything about my Takara Tomy MPs, the only thing I dislike is the price.
I have to admit I may have been lucky so far because I've seen bad tolerances, stuff breaking, paint blemishes, etc in some Takara Tomy MP reviews but the truth is when I get mine it's normally near to perfect.
When I say that even though MP Starscreem seems to have some loose joints the look is near to perfection and for that I'm going to choose him as my seeker but I suggest that ppl should complain about the lose joints because of the price point, the community will trash me either because I'm complaining about a perfect figure or because I'm protecting a horrible company. When I say that Fans Toys Hunk is missing double joint everything, ab crunch, feet up and down and butterfly joints but that I'm still going to buy it because the look is great even though the fans should demand more articulation for the price point, the community will trash me either because I'm complaining about a perfect company or because I'm protecting a horrible figure.
I have to conclude that ppl are entitled to their bias opinions, we're talking about toy collecting so there's nothing wrong that can come out of it, at least nothing really important to the world. The only thing that gets to me is that the way ppl conduct themselves because of toy collecting tells me a lot about human beings in general and let me tell you we are a bunch of lying, angry and unsatisfied MTF!!!
P.S. I would like to add... Please don't come running into Mr. Skullface's defense after you read my comment because I'm not trying to make any point about his review, his comparison or his opinion. I love his reviews and comparisons, I don't always agree with 100% of what he says but I love them and I have nothing but respect for the man himself. The proof I love his reviews and that I take his opinion in high regard is the fact that I watch all of them, I never forget to like, add a comment and I always and I mean always thank him for either the review or the comparison. Since I can't thank him with money I like to show my appreciation for his work with a honest "Thank you Mr. Skullface" which is more then the majority of the ppl who come running to trash me in his defense does.
At the end of the day, this is just another placeholder. If you like MP11, do you really need to upgrade? If you don't like 11, and can't wait for the next version, by all means, buy it. There's a difference in someone's opinion on what they feel isn't done well, vs obvious flaws with the product. This version is good enough for those who feel they want a recent Starscream and tired of looking at MP11.
I for one appreciate his take on MP Starscream. I refuse to spend 200+ on a figure that I've already bought 3 times (mp-5, mp-11, maketoys meteor) that's not head and shoulders better than the last 3. The only thing I didn't like about meteor was the small head which you can upside with independent toy makers' add-on part on ebay. Plus I'm not fond of the height on the new TT.....but I do love my KFC Blitzing!
I wasn’t excited for an MP 3.0 starscream because I already have the MP 2.0 versions in way more than just 3….I have MP Sunstorm, MP Acidstorm as well as a Custom MP Acidstorm for a total of 6 2.0 versions. I have that completist problem and I feel the struggle. Almost everyone who reviewed MP52 loved it, but BSF. Lol When I watch the review I could tell the mood shifted and then the smaller things that annoyed him just built up because that is what happens…..when you are disappointed by something you like, doing something you didn’t want to do in the first place or a combination of the 2. The amount of issues he had with the figure would have made me feel the way he did. I want to like it, but also if it’s garbage I don’t want to buy 3 version of the same POS. We all have bias regardless and that is what makes us human. I want to like this figure because I want Takara to succeed so they make other figures…but I dont want to like it because I dont want to spend $1k to get them. Kind of a catch-22 i believe is the term. If Money is no issue then it doesnt matter, but most of us save or budget and want to believe the sacrifice we made of whatever it maybe is not in vain….no one likes disappointment…..
At the end of the day, people like what they like. I understand the praises and gripes with this figure. If I could get one for a decent price, I’d consider it despite having MT Meteor. Just don’t think the price reflects the product as it should
I bought 52 knowing it could be an unlikeable disaster because it's a sure thing and good enough. I owned the Maketoys trio and they were all floppy and wouldn't hold a pose and the tiny heads looked weird. I'm not rebuying those (especially at the prices Skycrow and Lightning are going for, Maketoys might never reissue those). This Deformation Space SS could be great but who knows? At least the Takara ones are a known quantity.
I'm putting all my bets on Deformation Space. If that doesn't work, we won't have a proper Seeker before I die lol
Awsome Video! Takara is a big dissapointment when it comes to the bildquality. The MP figures look very good, most of the time, but the Engineering and tolleranzes aren‘t always the best. But do you think Takara is going to be better in the future? Or do you think that they are just worrying of their money?
Will the Real Starscream Please Stand Up...Please Stand Up!
Bobby I have to honestly say. I don't always agree with you, but at the end of the day I know I've gotten an honest review based on your experience or opinion on said figure. Ditka for example was trash. I still bought it because I love tank mode, and use it for such. I look forward to your videos, especially "Sit down Saturday". We are all different and have different opinions. I value yours as a fellow collector. Keep up the great work sir.
Your reviews are brilliant and exceptionally fair. I feel disappointed in a company that had every opportunity to make a product worthy of the high price point. Unfortunately, the build was sloppy- there is no excuse for poor joints. Your reviews are awesome- thank you!!!! Bobby 2022!!!
I think many people confuse your rougher handling of a figure for inherent dislike, which is unfair. Although the rough handling can sometimes exacerbate your negative thoughts about the figure (the loose wing tip may have been caused by forcing it past a part during transformation), that’s not the same thing as disliking the figure right out of the gate. And, if I’m being fair, other figures have withstood worse; starscream is definitely not build well. This is the case where the QC is a huge issue and while some copies have been documented as being almost flawless, there are many that aren’t-something that should have been caught at the factory. I always appreciate how objective you can be in reviews like this!
And to clarify, I love this figure despite it’s flaws. But that doesn’t mean I give Takara a pass on issues they should have worked out by now.
Bobby likes what Bobby likes.. he didn't really love FT brawn... and I think it's gold in almost every way.. but he has a right to like what he likes and I'm happy he's honest about how he feels.. thats what makes him a good reviewer..
That figure is great! I hold his opinion in the same esteem as his transformation ability. I'm only here to point out the crap grammar in the video title.
I think he's awesome...he looks like he hoped right off the TV sceen...next to mpm megs....and all my joints r tight....takara b messin up all the time tho
I had Starscream preordered. Just realized I’m spending 280$ on a figure when I already have MP 11. Thanks for changing my mind. Also a lot of people have been disappointed with multiple figures being released by Takara. They’ve been consistently going in this direction. Not anyone’s fault or bias.
I say Heck yeah you can critique Structure and designs. There are rules that apply to engineering so that a specific thing does what it's supposed to do and If you have a figure that doesn't stand up, not because of a loose screw but an actual design flaw, then that is a valid issue. Quality assurance is the trust built between the provider and the consumer. Any Brand can't "STAND" on name alone for long. I would have to say that Quality assurance must be at the forefront of any third party brand just as much, if not more, than big toy companies.
but why rouge didnt get the shovel like TFC had?
I just don’t understand how it has a foe chest piece but no waist swivel
I’ll save the money and spend it on Galactus.
To me the fact that this video even had to be made is somewhat absurd. I will say upfront I’m someone that collected the original transformers way back in the day. I just started to collect the Masterpiece ones in the last year or so. So I understand why folks have been frustrated with reissues and such that were initially buying these. Bobby’s videos (Emgo’s - and others) have been very helpful with my buying decisions. Back to this ridiculous issue. I purchased the Takara Starscream. Mine doesn’t have the issues - to the extent that the copy Bobby’s did. And frankly of the videos I was looking forward to, it was Bobby’s. Cause he’s leave the bullshit at the door type of guy and will give an honest opinion (and I don’t even know him). He bought up very valid issues - and I’m happy with mine. To each his own. At the end of the day with all reviews from all folks - opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.
Official should be held to a higher standard especially the MP line. I just wish Takara felt the same.
I won’t say the maketoys is better, but there is something about the paint and overall presence that makes it stand out more on a shelf than the takara. I was expecting and easy swap when I got the takara… didn’t happen. Maybe if the colors were a little brighter on takara I’d feel differently.
I say it was pretty fair . while mp does do somethings right does no excuse to give them a free pass to sell something without testing the engineering on the parts .
Especially at that price point.
People are gonna be pissed no matter what. I don't have a dog in this fight but I'm satisfied with the mmc seekers and I don't like the way this figure looks and based on your review it's not even built well. The shoulders look great and I hope they happen more often but it can't support its own weight.... how are we not pissed at that. If you bought this how are you not pissed off at that??? I appreciate your honest opinion and it's why I'll watch you over the other guys. You call a spade a spade please stick with it. I don't watch for the transformation though lol. Either way though I'd be pissed off if I spent this kind of money on it and got these results.
So personally there are issues with all seekers... folding vertical fins... high standing chest in bot mode... chunky looking alt mode... No matter the make/version I just am not happy.
With the price point they are at I don't doubt I'm not the only one. And that's taking the point of a bad QA job of the legs on mp52 aside. I don't think it's a gerwalk issue... if anything that should have made cause for better tension, not less. Complete fail on Takara no matter if the legs are floppy or just loose. Both my Starscream and Thundercracker have loose bends at the knee, posable but on a specific ratchet... the tension can give out and they fall over. (I really think there is not enough tension in the joint) The review was good and any subjectivity was kept aside and explained. I think anyone that wants to complain about a good review, need to really look at what is driving them to be upset about it... it's not the review.
... one thing... the stand ... you need to rotate the connector to the other side. not that I am so excited about it, just for alt mode and the stand is loose too :/
Thinking Bobby needed to blow off some steam here. 😂. Too much praise and appreciation for you out there to absorb the negativity.
Siege Starscream has a hip rotation.
Earthrise Starscream doesn't.
Pretty sure this is all foreplay and that HasTak would have introduced an MP Screamer with a hip rotation in V4 after profits from V3.
I mean Bobby is entitled to his opinions. I think everyone has a personal preferences. Yeah, "the best to date" I think 🤔that was mee!! I personally felt like is the Best to date. 😕 Return to Masterpiece form. ..As always great video Bobby ♥️
If you like it, you win. If you try to change Bobby's mind, you lose.
Bobby you are best is all i have to say!
Ow man. People Complain too much 🤣. Nice subject though.
But first off, some1 please explain "8 weeks" to me 😅.
A while ago we were planning on having a patreon talk on a subject i do not remember, but this is also an interesting one 👍🏼 and it goes deeper than confirmation bias alone. Confirmation bias (or anchoring bias for that matter) can be void of any experienced emotion, but ppl are ready to bring out the pitchforks on some reviews! 😅 It touches on why we watch reviews and why we collect. Seemingly collectors want a percieved authority in their field of collection to acknowledge their purchase/collection. OR to acknowledge that they were right in NOT getting a certain figure. This need seems to grow the more expensive a figure is - to them-. Weirdly people in the higher echelons of collecting (statues/busts/cars) seem less focused on this affirmation/confirmation by reviewers, but i could be wrong here. It wouldn 't be such of a gamble to say that the procured collection has become part of the ego of the collector. The interesting question is why. Which comes to, why do we réally collect? And the question to that goes deeper than the answers which are usually given, like in one of the previous sitdown saturdays i believe.
Anyway, even though it's cool that u bring up this interesting subject, It's really weird to be held accountable for your subjectieve (sometimes even objective) opinion on a toy you review 🤣🤣
Great job bringing it up, and i love these discussions 👍🏼😁
8 weeks is/was a podcast show where Bobby and others would talk about music
@@rikkib8220 ah, thanks man! But why the baby and the laughs?
No problem. It's a running gag with them I believe. Also the baby either was the logo for the podcast or just a slide he threw together for this video.
@@rikkib8220 👍🏼😁
I love how Ditka was doing the limbo…
At this point Skullface will grow to hate certain companies because of the fanboys that are letting these companies off the hook 🤦♂️
What I think is hilarious is that the chest area is a faux and it still can't have a waist swivel.
Haven’t even seen the video and the answer is yes. Lol he just automatically starts out disappointed when he reviews a Takara toy. Watching video now. 😉
TFW2005 MP-52's forum in a nutshell
So glad I canceled my preorder 🙌
Wow. Awfully defensive. You just got a bunk copy. NBD. You didn't make it. It is unacceptable for those qc issues at pretty much any price point. I love ya, and value your opinion. My copy is great, and glad I purchased. I think it's funny how on this channel, most of the comments are negative about the figure. While other channels that reviewed and were positive about the figure are mostly positive. I think it definitely confirms your confirmation bias theory. Keep up the great content.
Haters gonna hate. But can we talk about @7:51 dem goat udders? She's about to blow!
I think people are just happy there's 100% animation accurate figures even if they have structural issues or poor builds, and feel like anyone who says they're bad objectivly are wrong. That being said I'm happy with my MP-11 molds.
I've only got one MP seeker, Hasbro Thundercracker because he is my favourite seeker.
@@deang5386 truthfully that one's the best I think from the 3 seekers
@@ThePrimetime84 It was back when they were masterpiece versions of the original toys not the cartoon
Emotions are always going to prevent people being open-minded, accepting and subjective. Anakin, Luke(since ep.7) and almost every single one of them.
Is he biased against Takara? No. Honestly from everything I've seen from their latest releases Takara has gone downhill for a few reasons. Instead of figures like MP-10 where they have some kibble on the bot mode from the alt mode, we're getting figures that they're over-engineering to keep them as clean and close to the cartoon as possible. MP-44 was dang good looking, but it has some big drawbacks compared to others like its predecessor and two 3rd party figures. Nu Bee is a trainwreck with kibble everywhere that's insanely unsightly, Hound looks good but had problems with pieces breaking and paint chipping...
NuScream looks damn good, you can't deny that. But it's not so jawdroppingly awesome that it completely crushes the Maketoys offering.
WTF!? What does this mean, "Trade War" for Transformers brands, we already have a trade war in Pop Culture !? Buy the one you want and period, what is all this shit !? "For tastes!? Flavors and colors" goes the saying!
Masterpiece is supposed to be Takara’s line. They SHOULD be held to a higher standard, IMO. I have the same “Annie are you ok?” problems and that just isn’t acceptable for a $250 official product
Using the Hot Toys analogy makes this whole thing make sense to me. I have a collection of those and as much as I want those to be a good, they are more often than not trash..
I will say that this is the best masterpiece in years, the past few since probably sunstreaker have been garbage that breaks. This isn’t a great figure I think it’s really bad, but it’s the best in a long long time. Maybe takara can finally give us good masterpieces again