Abandoned Yamaha XV1100 Virago Rebuild Part 3 | WILL IT START??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 พ.ค. 2019
- Today - well, over the last week - I try my best to get the abandoned 1990 Yamaha XV1100 Virago to start up for the first time. However, she is hiding some ugly secrets like all the ladies on Tinder.
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I was quite impressed.... you didn't swear when the new started didn't take. Thanks for posting this as I'm looking at one of these right now
NO,,,,, To test the engine take plugs out and left cover off again and twist flywheel to right. Normally you can remove the left small access cover and unscrew the smaller yet cap and reach in with wrench to turn, this is for timing and valve lash etc..
The solenoid has to be wired correctly. The battery power lead to the outside terminal, the inner lead goes back to starter.
You have a good content and I hope you will have more subscribers 💪.
Haha you're a savage talking about the previous owner. There are a lot of weird/sketchy things that were done to the bike so I don't blame you haha
I smack talk that fool more off camera hahaha
@@TheInja 😂😂
Check the kick stand switch and make sure it's good. That was the reg/rec you found behind the passenger peg.. they are cheap to replace should you need to. Your shifter linkage isn't adjusted correctly so it isn't returning to the right position after the shift. You just have to mess with it a bit. I hope you get it all sorted out. They are fun little bikes. I am riding a 750 bobbed and it was in rough shape too... well it still is but it runs and gets me around. Lol good luck man!
haha Appreciate it! :)
Hi Guy, Make sure it is in neutral, kick stand up and run switch turned on in addition to key. good luck buddy. :)
dam whoever owned that probably had a mullet
I told my girl that! I was like "I really want to know what the previous guy looks like. For sure has a mullet." 😂
And a pound of crystal in his Chevy Tahoe's glovebox
Flywheel nut and keyway are missing that's why PO "welded" it. Grind or chisel off those welds and replace the nut and keyway key. To see if it's seized just put the bike in gear with the two plugs out and push it to see if you can feel both cylinders turning. Also I think Virago's have a failsafe in the electric fuel pump if it fails to cycle the starter won't engage. Pull fuel lines off carbs and turn key to on and see if fuel pump is pumping fuel.
I'll give it a shot!
If you do ever get it turning over, you should clean out the reserve tank as well. On left side under the plastic cover. It tends to collect all the nasty bits down there.
I am exactly where you where with my project right now. Lights come on but no start. Looking forward to see you fix for this.
Glad to see some good videos on this😁 building one along with ya! In the same model! Best of luck to you!!
Appreciate it!
Great video. That work from the previous owner was special.
Very...special. 😆
Take the plugs out,turn the ignition on to run, connect the jumper pack earth to the exhaust pipe and put the live from the jumper pack on the power terminal on the starter.
Need to put a breaker bar on the crank and just see if the engine turns over by hand. Pull out the spark plugs, pour a little oil down each hole and let it sit for a while and with a breaker bar on the crank, the engine should turn over fairly easy. If it doesnt turn or is very hard to turn, the engine is indeed seized.
I actually just put some oil in there last night and I'll give it a shot today! But I really think it's an electrical problem still. Really hoping 🤞🏼
theres no nut on the crank to turn,duh
Wow they welded the flywheel to the crank unbelievable
It’s a huge luck for I can follow this rebuild from the beginning .Although presently seems to be hard but I gotta great cheer for you !
Fan from Taiwan 🇹🇼
Thanks bro!
nice job man!
Lost the nut NO PROBLEM WE WELDED!!!!
I am glad that I discovered your channel.
Glad you did. Glad to have you 👊🏽
Inja squad!
6 years ago I decided to get back into biking. First was a 1992 750 Yamaha Virago. With a LTC I had it up and running. The bike was Beautiful, but for me it wasn't the answer. Next was a 2001 250R Ninja. Loved that bike! But I needed a little more. Now I have a 2007 Yamaha fz6 and a 1985 Honda Magna V65 I'm restoring. I wont part with them any time to soon. Old Bikes in the North are not that old!
Very cool! Sounds like a journey. If you have any insight as you watch this build feel free to jump in the conversation. 👌🏼 Glad to have you.
Waiting patiently the next video..
Same. 😭👏🏽
Yes, that is regulator/rectifier. To test you stator wires. (3shite wires, blue is neutral light under engine bottom below shifter). Test that each white is not shorted to ground. Ohms between small like .5 forgot, but all 3 should be same. The rectifier is not problem.
I bought a Suzuki gs650g from a pawnshop for $180
Most challenging part was rebuilding the quad carbs and tuning them.
After I got it running it was so much fun
Was that uhhhhhh yung swag😂😂😂😂😂
I have 4 viragos. Your starter is fine. It needs an extra ground from starter to chassie or to battery.
I'll give it a shot today!
Did this work?
1- put an extra ground wire from the battery to the stater.
2- Take out the carbs and clean them. You should change the jets too.
Yeah, I think I will be needing a carb clean...but according to the tow-yard I got it from, the bike seemed to have been running less than 4-5 months ago. So we'll see what she needs.
@@TheInja all it takes is a particul of rust from the tank going in the carbs and they are done.
Make sure the floats are adjusted properly.
Then if you change altitude and also plan on altering the headers, you need to change the jets.
Finally, if the bike was found on its side, maybe the cylingers are now full of oil or even jamed.
Do yourself and do what the pros do. When doing a rebuild, order the Haynes full service and rebuild manual. For 20 or 30 bucks, you'll save yourself countless headaches and dead ends. It also gives you all the specs like psi of clutch assembly fasteners etc.
Had the same thing on my xs1100 made the same exact noise motor was seized from sitting for 5 years. But a lot of rocking back and forth with a breaker bar at the crank and pb blaster and it freed up. Runs great now so I’d check if the motor turns over and check for rust in the cylinder if it’s been sitting for a long time. Although I’m not the best mechanic.
Gotcha! It really just doesn't seem like the starter is activating, though...but more jumping into it soon. Thanks for the tip!
No, the power from the battery goes to outer solenoid terminal. The inner terminal goes back to starter. The starter switch is the small blade terminal. So your getting full voltage its that the solenoid is directional as is starter. The gear that starter slides into locks directionally.
Side stand cut off switch/wiring ? Earth wire under sump ? I'll be watching! Good luck from the UK.
have you at least tried a new battery? if your battery voltage is 12v doesnt necessarily mean it has the amps.
This is a brand new, same model battery as the original, so I don't think it's the battery. Also tried with a pretty beefy jumper pack so I don't think it's a lack crank power. But it very well could be the starter is not getting enough juice.
Battery duh????😻👍👍👍lol
That was the first thing I tried. By all rights it really should start, so still trying to figure it out. 👊🏼
Remove plugs, put Marvel Mystery Oil in cylinders and let sit for a while. With plugs still out, put it in gear and work the motor. Hook the battery box up directly on starter and see if you can get it spinning before putting plug back in. Good luck with it.
All that been done 👌🏼 Making moves on it
You might try mystery marvel oil
Have the same bike but when i changed the stator and put it back together the same way it was now all the sudden the clutch wont work or even have any sort of tension like it wants to work no matter how much u adjust from both ends but it worked fine before we took the case off to change they stator. Anyone have any ideas on why or what to do iv took it apart several times and seeing nothing wrong or out of place
It's the relay bad big one
It´s the starter solenoid! It clicks but it´s not working!
That really may be it. I'll pick one up tomorrow and see what happens!
If you take spark plugs out and put it in gear and turn the back wheel does engine turn over or as others suggest take small cover other side from flywheel off and you should find bolt head on basically the end of crank try with socket to turn there it will problably be part of ignition side of things so might unbolt not major issue just don't move the backing plate relative to it and bolt back up should have alignment pin or the like for ignition timing. The electronics "thing" on the back of the ali footrest looks to be the regulator/rectifier unit which is part of the battery chargeing circuit not starter related. Can prove this by following wires back from it 3 all same colour (usually) will go back to a rubber block on flywheel crankcase other 2 problably red and black colour should go to battery possible 3rd wire to electronics box. Should be test for reg/rec unit listed in a decent manual usually £100 in UK so worth checking before swap the small earth connection you found and cleaned is not the main one should be another heavy duty one to frame and engine clean that. People forget starter motor takes very large amount of current to spin engine and therefore needs as good a return path out from motor as into it. The solenoid is clicking but another item to check is by in this case either bypassing it or borrow temp borrow from bike or car that its able to handle the relevent current sometimes the internal contacts can give out. Check earthing 1st before solenoid.
Hi with solenoid have got part way through prt4 it preselector type thought it was stand alone type (was hard to tell as your camera shots jump about and focus isn't always great) in which case test via borrow from other bike different bike not going to wok/fit not had to trouble shoot that type so have less can suggest on trouble shooting bar they have a rep of giving more greif. If motor turns over with spark plugs out, hold plug against engine to earth it by the plug cap to avoid a shocking experience and see if you get spark that will show if ignition is working, which being older style sold state it should. Next step will be clean up of carbs as modern fuel is not stable and tends to gum things up if left standing which means it probably wont run or if it does not properly. By solid state I mean no contact breakers (points) but no ecu/emu basically not cpu/computer control of more modern systems.
If I remember correctly, it's a bendix gear that needs to be replaced. It's a known issue on the Virago.
I picked up the same project a couple weeks ago and have replaced the battery, then the starter solenoid, and have found that my idler gear set is pretty worn. I know on older models you can flip the gear to use the other side of the teeth, but on the xv1100's it isnt quite that easy. Is there no other way to easy fix this other than buying a new idler gear set?
None that I can find. Mine, too, we're fairly worn, but I was able to just reinstall all the used parts and it starts up great now with minimal grinding
If you think it's to do with dodgy wiring, why don't you just get a second hand harness from breakers. If you suspect the engine is seized, lock two nuts together on the crank shaft (where that weld is) and turn the engine over by hand. These bikes have a bad reputation of having bad earths, which effect starting.
Yep, diving into it all!
There's a fail safe if the kickstand is down.
was there really asbestos on it?? cant that stuff kill you on contact?
hey man awesome videos you are making! i have rebuild my yamaha virago 1100 so i know altot if not everything about it and the wiring!
love to see a youtuber making a build series on a virago!
Appreciate it! I'll let you know if I need anything 👊🏼
@@TheInja anytime man!
Put an empty plastic trash can lid upsidedown under engine. The large kind. Prevents oil spots.
quite hard to look when camera wobbling near everything so much, compared to other same types videos.
After seeing that ghetto starter wire set up and the weld on the fly wheel, I would jump ship. Get another bike and use that one for parts. My 2 cents.
Considering it. We'll see where it goes.
Shim the starter
Not to sure why the fuel light comes on but it does on mine as well, hoping you can get it figured out on the next episode and it isnt a seized motor
Hoping 🤞🏼 installing some new electronics to get better voltage.
@@TheInja sounds like a good test, where did you get the starter from this video?
@@TylerGibsonSIRdipsALOT69 Got mine from Amazon.
@@TheInja Fuel light supposed to come on when the start button is pressed, it goes out once it started.
The solenoid has two jobs: it is the actuator for the "catapult" as you called it, also has two big copper contacts inside and it doubles as the starter relay. If it is full of crap or corroded it won't conduct enough juice to the starter.
If the pistons are seized try soaking them through the spark plug holes with some PB blaster or Seafoam Deep creep and hopefully that loosens the rings up. You could turn the crank from the clutch side, the primary drive gear hopefully still has the nut on it instead of a bloody tack weld shite... That side has a crappy RTV gasket as well so you have to dig in there anyway. So yeah, mke sure the engine is not locked up and if you can turn the crank it must be the flippin' solenoid.
How do you propose the starter will turn the motor if its seized?
It wouldn't, which is why the motor may not be turning over even with a working starter. But I don't think the starter is turning at all so it's potentiallly a bad solenoid or combination of small things.
@@TheInja Well the starter would be geared in, so if its seized, wouldn't you not expect it turn at all? Just pull the starter from the bike but leave it wired in for easy solenoid check since you know your starter is good off the jumper :)
@@TheInja Also have you gotten on the crank bolt in the ignition cover to check seizure?
@@grantklopfenstein7462 I actually think it's the solenoid, but the store opens tomorrow so I can't get one today!! The solenoid wasn't spinning the motor by itself.
@@grantklopfenstein7462 I hadn't, but I did turn the flywheel a little tiny bit by hand so I really don't think the engine is damaged. Just went over everything on the bike and I think the solenoid is shot!
that autofocus though
Batt or fuse?. Could be due to something with the bike not detecting fuel?.. The fuel light keeps coming on, maybe thats a safe thingy that stops firing?
Battery is new and I checked all the fuses. The fuel light would come on like that even when we had the tank on with fuel in it. 🤷🏽♀️
But yeah, it's gotta be something minor like that.
Hmmmmm, magnet and coil wouldn't be affecting, because its only making a click sound as oppose to trying to start but not firing up..
Have u tried jump starting? Like roll down the road and jump into gear.
@@tonggagames917 nope, but I don't think I can at this point by myself - it's a large CC shaft-drive engine and is a beast to get up to decent speed. Rear wheel just locks up.
@@TheInja riggggghht... Well, ill wait to see what u can come up with. U showed the weilding inside the engine, if they got that far, i dont wanna know what more they could have tampered with at the crank,jack, block, or piston.
All the best inja!
Am I the only one thinking, turn the lamp switch on……
your headlight should not come on when you engage the starter
That air filter tho
Fully custom and will impress all your buddies
I would take off spark plugs and crank it by hand and watch it through the hole to see if it turns...if it does put a higher amp battery (car battery) to see if itll turn the engine, if it doesnt turn did you check the oil for metal shavings beforehand? Thatll be a tell tale sign of a messed up crank
There was some metal dust in the oil, but I suspect from the starting gear and flywheel, both gears were worn (at least I hope that's the case!)
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That MF skip button