Kicks provide the core pulse of a groove whatever genres and need to fit to the bass effectively - as you show us how to do so well. Snares depend more on genre. I prefer lighter skip snares that fit into the overall rhythm rather than stand out as an 80s crack! Great videos so clear and well paced. I do notice you sometimes use plug-ins not in Logic. Appreciate, if possible, to indicate Logic alternatives. I am new to Logic so trying not to get into 3rd party plug-ins at the moment!
Just my opinion. If you are EQing bass for an gospel or RnB track probably playing a 5 String, you would sure need to allocate some lower frequencies specially if the track as lower notes on the low B string like open B, C, E or their halftones.
Thanks for these great tips my guy!! Love the song by the way...I'm actually learning how to produce my own music as a "new beginning," because of Jesus, Amen!! God Bless you sir!
can you make a video just working with an Acoustic K trying to give it that punch that a sample k gives but with out the sample getting as close as you can?
Great video. Everyone should watch it. But it bothers me that people aren't learning to mix through experience. One question. Why are you bottoming out the low end in both the kick and bass? Might make sense for an electric 4 string but certainly not an electric 5 string with it's fundamental notes going all the way down to 31 hz. Keep in mind real acoustic instruments will have lower and upper harmonics. To fall guilty to high pass madness. On a real acoustic kick the upper harmonics (go up to 2 khz) would push through your mix. Anyway great video. Being doing this for years. I can tell you it works very well but don't over do it. In other words no more than 4 db cut or boost. I would stick with 3 db.
I do this all the time. But I figured it how to do it myself years ago. I wish the damn video had been around 10 years ago. I was doing pro mixes for big labels and mixing the kick and bass was pain in the ass. Eventually I came up with The Fat Man's Double Notch. But I was told later pros have been doing this since the 70's. As soon as fully parametric 3 band EQ came out it was real easy. Now you want fun and challenge. Try this on 1963 tube Ampex 7 band graphic equalizer. Good luck!
Hi, on the whole I like your videos and find them interesting but please, please do not encourage people ( especially newbies) to mix with their eyes. The ears are all that really count. When I went to school ( a long time ago now) we were taught that we see with our eyes and hear with our ears. I was once working with a student who told me she could never hear the eq, after watching her try to eq (something) I realised she was trying to hear with her eyes. I told her to put her hand on the eq and close her eyes. Suddenly she could hear the changes in the eq. We tend to be visual animals and need to learn to listen properly before anything else. The modern graphical interfaces on everything do not help new engineers learn. Sorry if this seems a bit like an old fart rant but I just wanted to make the point. P.S. keep up the good work though and thanks.
This is so true. I think a turning point in my engineering life was about a year ago when I listened to music on mushrooms trying to hear the individual frequency ranges. That alone gave me the single biggest jump in improvement I’ve had so far
Cowbell. Always the cowbell. You can never have too much cowbell in any genre. Even ambient and choral. If Bach had used a cowbell in his B Minor mass it would be far more popular. Having said that, maybe the Kick/snare are the most important? Maybe its genre specific?
The Kick-Snare-what a great idea! That'd free the drummer's hands up for playing the all-important cowbell full-time! "Today, the Kick-Snare-tomorrow...golden underwear!"
It's actually a cross-reference to Jimi's patter at the '67 Monterey Pop Festival, which may've inspired Bruce's later pep-talk to BOC in the studio. ;-)
Hey Rob I noticed in some of your videos that the cards that you are pointing out to are not showing up.. thought that you would like to know that! Cheers
Bet you anything there is still alot of low end Frequencies pending around in the lower registry..go back and revisit this mix and slap on ( Levels form Mastering The Mix) bet you anything again from 20hz to 120 hz will be in the red light zone..get some proper meters and it will help lead u into the right direction.👍
i have a kick drum that is creating a very noisy sound in a beat, what should i do and use to reduce the spill over noisiness. i tried to use EQ to cut below 80hz, but that made the entire beat felt very thin, lacks thickness
Can you explain how to decide whether to use sidechain compression on the bass using the kick as the input key vs. the space allocation method you are demonstrating here?
i‘d say u should generally always create space for the other instruments or in thid case the bass. i normally sidechain the sound i want to stand out more than it does after i‘ve eqd it. i‘m no professional tho
@@thr3way ok thanks. Yeah I think it makes sense to EQ slot whenever possible because it's then part of the static mix and doing as much as possible in the static mix is a good thing. After further consideration I think that ducking is more a stylistic choice. I have messed around with it a bit since posting here and it tends to be too noticeable (i.e. pumping) for my taste (my stuff is not pop/dance genre). I guess I would need to be more subtle with the amount of compression to rectify that.
why high passing the sub bass? i mean,in rap music do they high pass it a little bit too? beacause the bass soud really big and shaky. this confuse me a lot...
The human ear can't really hear past around 20hz, so cutting those frequencies saves some room in the mix. You'll still get some nice rumble in the sub ranges :)
"Completely free" You guys crack me up... The "cost" is my email address for your junk email bombing. Post it right here in the comments section if its free. No problem... just with the blatant misuse of the words "Completely Free"
Nothing's actually free yo, or else how would it be worth it for people to make videos like these? Knowledge is always worth something, that's why you payed for school
I figured out its everything about arrangement. Learn how to pick the correct kick and bass sound will save you a lot of time and head aches when mixing.And Sir...that Rbass is a secret weapon ...LOL. That little plugin works wonders on low end. A lot of people reach for saturation plugins but that Rbass is the best thing as been created for dealing with low end since it keeps things pure and clean. 👍🏽 Another thing I have seen and have work for me when deciding what would go in the sub area vs the low bass area is seen the parts as whats is more busy sounding. If the kick is too busy sounding makes more sense put that in the bass area instead of the sub area and vice versa. But again , everything comes down to the arrangement. If both parts are busy sounding and both parts have a lot of low end ...then you have to think more on whats the style of music being played. Funk , pop...ballad, rock. Every genre has its own place for Kick and bass. But if none the options works ...chances are one of them have to be re recorded. Thats why is so important to know and plan ahead what you trying to accomplish with the song. Ex; if its ballad ...then use a ballad bass sound not a funk bass sound. lol
I think the snare is more important.... there is something a well balanced snare does to a mix and every pro knows that...the mix of the snare may change the perception of the whole mix..when I mix mean the mix of the snare I mean the relative level of d snare as compared to the vocal,kick and bass..then the texture and tone of the snare and dynamics...if all is good it makes d whole mix easier... cheers..
My Story - by Country Bandits. Verse 1: I turned away from everything You taught me as a kid, and then the world the flesh and the devil dragged me through the skids. I'm running back to you with open arms so you can hold me, I need a rhema word right now that reassures me. Pre Hook: Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Hook 1: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory Verse 2: Many times I prayed but my prayers weren't answered right away, and it seemed the still small voice inside was so far away. Was it the sin in my life the reason you delayed. Jesus prune my heart and reveal the errors of my ways. Pre Hook: Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Hook 2: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory Bridge: Lord I thank you for saving me when I lost my way, lord I thank you for loving me when I fell from grace, you're the God of another chance and I'm here to stay, My God I thank you My Lord praise you. Hook 3: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory Hook 4: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
I seriously want to know if the stock EQ of Logic is still worth using over other 3rd party plugin EQs.. I mean am I at a disadvantage using logics stock EQ over a 3rd party's? will it not properly filter frequencies over the other plugins that will? I'm confused 🤨
I have a ton of Waves API, Slate, FabFilter... I STILL go back to my standard Logic EQ. Its simple and does the job. If you are going to go for a premium. FabFilter is the best IMO.
Agree. I was thinking "kick" because I love low energy and I tend to focus on that a lot, but the snare is subconsciously or consciously half of the vibe. Whatever the creator feels like featuring will be the important one. :)
My Story - by Country Bandits Verse 1: I turned away from everything You taught me as a kid, and then the world the flesh and the devil dragged me through the skids. I'm running back to you with open arms so you can hold me, I need a rhema word right now that reassures me. Pre Hook: Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Hook 1: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory Verse 2: Many times I prayed but my prayers weren't answered right away, and it seemed the still small voice inside was so far away. Was it the sin in my life the reason you delayed. Jesus prune my heart and reveal the errors of my ways. Pre Hook: Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Hook 2: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory Bridge: Lord I thank you for saving me when I lost my way, lord I thank you for loving me when I fell from grace, you're the God of another chance and I'm here to stay, My God I thank you My Lord praise you. Hook 3: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory Hook 4: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
@@SeriouslyDaniel I just saw this for the first time after a year and freaked out because I thought my account was hacked. Whew! What a relief some God-fearing theist hasn't hacked into my account the way Jesus hacked into my heart!
I find this with most tutorials on here. Im not slating the makers of the videos but all the talking gets boring far too quickly before things get interesting. I end up not watching the videos all the way through as all the over talking melts my head
What do you think is the most important part of the drum set? The kick or the snare?
The "kick" lays the foundation together with the bass
Depends on the song and genre.
Musician on a Mission starting the eq tutorial from scratch
most important is the player in front of it :)
The hihat, because you need to make sure you leave it out
This is one of the best tutorial's on EQing the Kick and Bass I have ever seen. Thank you!
I agree.
I also include snare in the Bass/Kick equation. Gives nice musical punch.
Definitely and important consideration.
Dang bro, God bless you for taking the time to drop this knowledge.
Very good video about mixing kick drums! One of the best I've ever seen.
Thank you for these educational videos, they are helping me tremendously!
Good tips thank you
This channel should have more subs. Thanks for the priceless help.
You have a reverb on the kick? Rumbling in 4:43.. but great video 👌🏻😊
This video really helped me to understand a very key things. Thank you very much!
Thank you for that awesome tutorial!!!! Where can i stream that song?
Kicks provide the core pulse of a groove whatever genres and need to fit to the bass effectively - as you show us how to do so well. Snares depend more on genre. I prefer lighter skip snares that fit into the overall rhythm rather than stand out as an 80s crack!
Great videos so clear and well paced. I do notice you sometimes use plug-ins not in Logic. Appreciate, if possible, to indicate Logic alternatives. I am new to Logic so trying not to get into 3rd party plug-ins at the moment!
Thanks for the kind words! We will keep that in mind.
Just my opinion. If you are EQing bass for an gospel or RnB track probably playing a 5 String, you would sure need to allocate some lower frequencies specially if the track as lower notes on the low B string like open B, C, E or their halftones.
Thanks for the tips man 🙏🏽
Thanks for these great tips my guy!! Love the song by the way...I'm actually learning how to produce my own music as a "new beginning," because of Jesus, Amen!!
God Bless you sir!
can you make a video just working with an Acoustic K trying to give it that punch that a sample k gives but with out the sample getting as close as you can?
Congratulations, very good video
Great video. Everyone should watch it. But it bothers me that people aren't learning to mix through experience.
One question. Why are you bottoming out the low end in both the kick and bass? Might make sense for an electric 4 string but certainly not an electric 5 string with it's fundamental notes going all the way down to 31 hz.
Keep in mind real acoustic instruments will have lower and upper harmonics. To fall guilty to high pass madness. On a real acoustic kick the upper harmonics (go up to 2 khz) would push through your mix.
Anyway great video. Being doing this for years. I can tell you it works very well but don't over do it. In other words no more than 4 db cut or boost. I would stick with 3 db.
I like the look of this video, great work, and great tutorial!
I do this all the time. But I figured it how to do it myself years ago. I wish the damn video had been around 10 years ago. I was doing pro mixes for big labels and mixing the kick and bass was pain in the ass. Eventually I came up with The Fat Man's Double Notch. But I was told later pros have been doing this since the 70's. As soon as fully parametric 3 band EQ came out it was real easy. Now you want fun and challenge. Try this on 1963 tube Ampex 7 band graphic equalizer. Good luck!
It depends what type of music
I REALY LOVE THIS SONG PLEASE THE TITLE
1:22 eq
2:11 play
2:20 kick and bass play
2:49 question
3:54 note1
4:10 note2
4:40 bass and kick
5:29 shape
6:05 no eq
7:00 kick + attack
8:35 slot
9:20 lsat note
9:52 bonus tip kick
r bass
10:09 off
10:15 on
11:08 comp
11:26 off
11:29 on
11:53 satu
12:05 off
12:07 on
12:31 bonuss tip 1 extra
13:05 tip 2
13:33 tip 3
Really helpful, useful info,Thx
Hi, on the whole I like your videos and find them interesting but please, please do not encourage people ( especially newbies) to mix with their eyes. The ears are all that really count. When I went to school ( a long time ago now) we were taught that we see with our eyes and hear with our ears.
I was once working with a student who told me she could never hear the eq, after watching her try to eq (something) I realised she was trying to hear with her eyes. I told her to put her hand on the eq and close her eyes. Suddenly she could hear the changes in the eq. We tend to be visual animals and need to learn to listen properly before anything else. The modern graphical interfaces on everything do not help new engineers learn.
Sorry if this seems a bit like an old fart rant but I just wanted to make the point.
P.S. keep up the good work though and thanks.
This is so true. I think a turning point in my engineering life was about a year ago when I listened to music on mushrooms trying to hear the individual frequency ranges. That alone gave me the single biggest jump in improvement I’ve had so far
Cowbell. Always the cowbell. You can never have too much cowbell in any genre. Even ambient and choral. If Bach had used a cowbell in his B Minor mass it would be far more popular. Having said that, maybe the Kick/snare are the most important? Maybe its genre specific?
😂
It can definitely be genre specific.
The Kick-Snare-what a great idea! That'd free the drummer's hands up for playing the all-important cowbell full-time! "Today, the Kick-Snare-tomorrow...golden underwear!"
Easy guys. I put my pants on just like the rest of you... One leg at a time. Except once my pants are on I make gold records.
You must be nearly as old as me! Do they still make gold records? Or is it Gold MP3s now?
It's actually a cross-reference to Jimi's patter at the '67 Monterey Pop Festival, which may've inspired Bruce's later pep-talk to BOC in the studio. ;-)
Hello! Excellent tut! Anyway of sharing the wav / stems so we can follow along? thanks
I can barely hear the kick in your song.. The vocals seem to be stepping on everything. The space works well..
deadass
Thanks for the video!
These are so helpful thank u so much
the relative importance of individual elements (in this case snare and kick) should, in my opinion, always be driven by 1. the song and 2. the player
Good point!
Good lesson. Thanks.
I believe the kick and snare are equally important... They both kind of set the mood in a track.
Valid point!
It's the groove that the relationship between the two elements create that is most important.
"The only thing fighting the kick drum is the bass drum..." 😊
nice video. cool gospel track as well
Hey Rob I noticed in some of your videos that the cards that you are pointing out to are not showing up.. thought that you would like to know that! Cheers
Hey there! Thanks for the heads up!
Bet you anything there is still alot of low end Frequencies pending around in the lower registry..go back and revisit this mix and slap on ( Levels form Mastering The Mix) bet you anything again from 20hz to 120 hz will be in the red light zone..get some proper meters and it will help lead u into the right direction.👍
i have a kick drum that is creating a very noisy sound in a beat, what should i do and use to reduce the spill over noisiness. i tried to use EQ to cut below 80hz, but that made the entire beat felt very thin, lacks thickness
Thank you very much as always. Nice song too. Where can I purchase it?
Can you explain how to decide whether to use sidechain compression on the bass using the kick as the input key vs. the space allocation method you are demonstrating here?
i‘d say u should generally always create space for the other instruments or in thid case the bass. i normally sidechain the sound i want to stand out more than it does after i‘ve eqd it. i‘m no professional tho
@@thr3way ok thanks. Yeah I think it makes sense to EQ slot whenever possible because it's then part of the static mix and doing as much as possible in the static mix is a good thing. After further consideration I think that ducking is more a stylistic choice. I have messed around with it a bit since posting here and it tends to be too noticeable (i.e. pumping) for my taste (my stuff is not pop/dance genre). I guess I would need to be more subtle with the amount of compression to rectify that.
why high passing the sub bass? i mean,in rap music do they high pass it a little bit too? beacause the bass soud really big and shaky. this confuse me a lot...
The human ear can't really hear past around 20hz, so cutting those frequencies saves some room in the mix. You'll still get some nice rumble in the sub ranges :)
thank you for this... but that sample though lol
Awesome !
Would anyone know where we can find this song?
How do I find this song
Bro what’s the name of that song ?
"Completely free" You guys crack me up... The "cost" is my email address for your junk email bombing. Post it right here in the comments section if its free. No problem... just with the blatant misuse of the words "Completely Free"
Nothing's actually free yo, or else how would it be worth it for people to make videos like these? Knowledge is always worth something, that's why you payed for school
What do you pay for?
don't know if this will work, but try this link: www.musicianonamission.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MIXING-DRUMS-CHEAT-SHEET.pdf
@@meanramen Hey Joe!
I find it tricky to think that the kick is lower than the bass like here :)
how to know about where freq must boost on Rbass?
I figured out its everything about arrangement. Learn how to pick the correct kick and bass sound will save you a lot of time and head aches when mixing.And Sir...that Rbass is a secret weapon ...LOL. That little plugin works wonders on low end. A lot of people reach for saturation plugins but that Rbass is the best thing as been created for dealing with low end since it keeps things pure and clean. 👍🏽 Another thing I have seen and have work for me when deciding what would go in the sub area vs the low bass area is seen the parts as whats is more busy sounding. If the kick is too busy sounding makes more sense put that in the bass area instead of the sub area and vice versa. But again , everything comes down to the arrangement. If both parts are busy sounding and both parts have a lot of low end ...then you have to think more on whats the style of music being played. Funk , pop...ballad, rock. Every genre has its own place for Kick and bass. But if none the options works ...chances are one of them have to be re recorded. Thats why is so important to know and plan ahead what you trying to accomplish with the song. Ex; if its ballad ...then use a ballad bass sound not a funk bass sound. lol
Really great point Isaac! Need to have the right sounds to even start getting a good balance.
Isaac Pizarro yp
Tnx for tips Rob
Our pleasure!
Link for cheat sheet doesn't work
Jesus is now in the kick drum!
Pro Q 3 and Spectrum 2 make doing this a lot easier.
What's the name of the track?
Boost 200-400hz? Everywhere else says to cut
"it's a new beginning cause Jesus is in it" my kick singing since I finally know how to eq it.
I think the snare is more important.... there is something a well balanced snare does to a mix and every pro knows that...the mix of the snare may change the perception of the whole mix..when I mix mean the mix of the snare I mean the relative level of d snare as compared to the vocal,kick and bass..then the texture and tone of the snare and dynamics...if all is good it makes d whole mix easier... cheers..
Great insight !
So true
You still want to hear the kick's soul.
What kick?
what a beautiful song.. where can i hear the full song?
Sounds like something from The Lion King movie,,,good luck
My Story
- by Country Bandits.
Verse 1: I turned away from everything You taught me as a kid, and then the world the flesh and the devil dragged me through the skids. I'm running back to you with open arms so you can hold me, I need a rhema word right now that reassures me.
Pre Hook: Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you.
Hook 1: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
Verse 2: Many times I prayed but my prayers weren't answered right away, and it seemed the still small voice inside was so far away.
Was it the sin in my life the reason you delayed. Jesus prune my heart and reveal the errors of my ways.
Pre Hook: Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you.
Hook 2: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
Bridge: Lord I thank you for saving me when I lost my way, lord I thank you for loving me when I fell from grace, you're the God of another chance and I'm here to stay, My God I thank you My Lord praise you.
Hook 3: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
Hook 4: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
Soo lovely
Can you send me the link
both kick and snare are very important in a mix..... they need to stand out in the mix
Song name ??🙂
I seriously want to know if the stock EQ of Logic is still worth using over other 3rd party plugin EQs.. I mean am I at a disadvantage using logics stock EQ over a 3rd party's? will it not properly filter frequencies over the other plugins that will? I'm confused 🤨
Absolutely not! Logic's EQ is great!
thank you!
A big part of buying plugins is marketing. Your logic is sound.
ok i'm gonna need some elaboration on that
I have a ton of Waves API, Slate, FabFilter... I STILL go back to my standard Logic EQ. Its simple and does the job. If you are going to go for a premium. FabFilter is the best IMO.
GOOD
Both are important depend of the emotion of the track
Great insight!
Agree. I was thinking "kick" because I love low energy and I tend to focus on that a lot, but the snare is subconsciously or consciously half of the vibe. Whatever the creator feels like featuring will be the important one. :)
thank you! :)
*I'm glad musically-inclined, bearded Theon Greyjoy is here to help!*
Musically-inclined, bearded Reek would be useless!
My eyes never fail me, my ears do...
What song is it? I can’t find it anywhere
My Story
- by Country Bandits
Verse 1: I turned away from everything You taught me as a kid, and then the world the flesh and the devil dragged me through the skids. I'm running back to you with open arms so you can hold me, I need a rhema word right now that reassures me.
Pre Hook: Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you.
Hook 1: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
Verse 2: Many times I prayed but my prayers weren't answered right away, and it seemed the still small voice inside was so far away.
Was it the sin in my life the reason you delayed. Jesus prune my heart and reveal the errors of my ways.
Pre Hook: Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you. Just hold on, it won't be too long, I got you.
Hook 2: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
Bridge: Lord I thank you for saving me when I lost my way, lord I thank you for loving me when I fell from grace, you're the God of another chance and I'm here to stay, My God I thank you My Lord praise you.
Hook 3: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
Hook 4: My story isn't finished but its a new beginning because Jesus is in it, my story isn't over but its been rewritten by the hand of glory
@@GladysGrace001 love the lyrics! Still can’t find it anywhere sadly
broadjam.com countrybandits
@@TheRyanKellner I found it on www.broadjam.com you need to Google it from there because TH-cam won't let me post the entire link
If you have a keep that’s all thud with no beater click, the thumbnail eq preview is only gonna make it worse
Whats the singer's name ?
My Story - by Country Bandits
Where is the kick?
5 minutes to start eq'in
Disagreed with approach #1. The bass should occupy the lows.
My story is infinite, but it's a new beginning because Jesus is in it.
Beautiful lyrics man
@@SeriouslyDaniel I just saw this for the first time after a year and freaked out because I thought my account was hacked. Whew! What a relief some God-fearing theist hasn't hacked into my account the way Jesus hacked into my heart!
#musicianonamission
Yay Jesus :)
Why you in the basement
Snare
Thank you for using a Christian track.
Great informative tutorial shame about the horrid Christian song lol
He did have a tutorial with death metal song.
God forgive you
Why not show you eq'in from scratch bit pointless showing us already mixed
Brian Bryo you need to watch his older videos
Da Blessing Production LLC why?
You talk too much and don't go straight to the point which gets boring, do more practicals instead of talking 85% of the time
I find this with most tutorials on here. Im not slating the makers of the videos but all the talking gets boring far too quickly before things get interesting. I end up not watching the videos all the way through as all the over talking melts my head