World of Warships - The Juggernaught
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ธ.ค. 2021
- So. How about those new German battlecruisers?
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4:28 "The Prince Heinrich gets 12 torpedoes."
...as we watch it launch *four* torpedoes from one of its *two* launchers. I guess we know the aliens haven't replaced Jingles with an imposter yet.
I mean, at this point, he's just making shit up xD
He even went up to 16 torps once in this vid. I really appreciate how well he educates uns in making shit up. I wouldn't have known that such inconsistencies are viable within the space of a few minutes.
@@mikestone6078
Were you even listening? He said 16 torpedoes for the tier X, not for this.
@@topsecret1837 Look, I'm following a trend here. I'm making shit up as we go. And I need you to get aaall the way off my back about this. That's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience. So ... Wow-wow-wow ... Wow.
Alright. All of you head to the cave. The salt doesn’t mine itself. Let’s go
Jingles Moments:
Misidentifying the Heinrich's torpedo armament for the Rupprecht's.
Thinking a Komsomolets is tier VI not tier IV and even admitting he's probably wrong but does not check to back that up...
Never change old man
Yes, Jingles, that WAS the tier 4 carrier! 😂
And funnily enough the Russian t4 Cv is pretty crap even by t4 standards from what I've heard and what I've seen facing it a few times.
@@treeherder42 well, its basically a Russian Langley 😂😂 its understandably crap
@@treycorbin1828 Just waiting for Wargaming to nerf the crap out of the new battlecruisers because god forbid their magical unicorn Russian Carriers are citadeled like any other ship.
I mean it probably div’d with a tier 5, I’ve had that happen. Dragged my buddy into a tier 7 match in the Hosho by mistake…whoops
@@emberfist8347 Had e few games in the Konsomolec and I can assure you that it's not ''crap''. Up until you get to t8 and above, the new USSR CV line main dmg dealer is the rocket planes and for that you have to follow basic logic and have some skill to apply in a battle. As for the citadels, the line suffers from ''lack'' of armor compared to the other CVs in game but have useful secondaries and are quite mobile so you can follow the main bulk of your force to be more effective dmg dealer. The t6 however have amazing torps, they are stealthy, slow and long range in a tight grouping. By the time the enemy sees them it's too late even if they see you dropping them. The natural reaction is to nose-in or turn out and that leads to 100% flood hit that you will follow up with the fire from the rockets.
as a german i can say, that Jürgenaut is really funny!
I almost laughed.
you know, german humor is a serious business!
"Exaktly mei Eidia!"
exactly my idea... read it with German stereotypical Accent
Could you explain thr joke? Please?
Got me laughing as well. Jingles, BTW: Zieten = Tseeton
very serious business indeed, one might even say;
It's no laughing matter.
I love the chatter between him and Aki. it's so sweet to know he's taken such a liking to his cat, and in turn Akizuki loves her human.
Better than the alternative :P
Ayy, cool to see a fellow AC5 fan in the wild.
Don't forget the legendary boo,we love him,a good doggo
Cats always love their human servants
Nice Razgriz pfp. My favorite PS2 game.
Hi there Rear Admiral Pringles!
No, I didn’t misspell his name. It’s intentional. :P
jurgernaut was funnier
The Prinz Heinrich is the Modernized Ersatz Yorck design but has torpedoes.
EDIT 2: Zieten has GZ Secondary mounts, most of them are casemates until the Rupprecth and the Schlieffen
the 150mm are still casemates.
Battlecruiser Citadels a carrier twice.
WG: Wait, that's illegal.
Akizuki bringing valid point to a video and helping Jingles out. Such a lovely cat.
That's one helluva BB with 8, 12, and 16 torp salvos all in one ship with 2 x 4 torpedo launchers.
Thanks! Keep entertaining, Jingles. Always fun to start my days with a giggle
Glad you like them!
@@The_MightyJingles sounds pay2win tactic
Don't encourage him.
@A Leaf pay 2 win the comments lol
I will say in their defence, the 6 and 7 were actually laid down and were real steel ships, they were just never completed.
Barely laid down and as we see with many, many ships what are intended capabilities and what are real are often very different so with an uncompleted ship the proposed capabilities are used while with real ships they get the real capabilities or worse rather than the pie in the sky proposed capabilities.
@@Ushio01 I'd still say its better than 3/4 of the Soviet fleet where they had some plans etc and then go "DA DA DA!!!!" whilst looking at pictures of Putin and wank their ships somewhere into the upper atmosphere. The tier 6 could have actually been completed in WW1 if they'd not diverted more resources to the U-Boat program and other projects as well as the slow strangulation of the blockade. And the teir 7 is the 6 with a slightly different layout and Bayern guns. And at its core, the tier 6 is a modified Derrflinger/Lutzow class.
"Based on real design" for Wargaming is pretty much what "Inspired by true events" is to the movie industry.
Or "based on the story by ...", like the current Witcher series on Netflix, that is driving tons of fans (who read books and/or played games) crazy due to number of mistakes and inconsistencies with lore and/or with character development.
Gotta give it to Azur Lane, who is about to release a German Event with 4 out of 5 Ships being Paperships out of Plan Z, but atleast the Ships in question were either laid down and never completed or atleast completly planned out and have irl backing. Half the Community is still complaining though, so take of that what you will.
@@TheRealJohnux Azur Lane has sister ships as different entities tho, that does make things easier.
@@the_tactician9858 Different Entity as in, they have their own Character and Desigb destinct from one another, or?
@@TheRealJohnux Indeed, and their characters are more based on their service history than anything else. For example, Prinz Eugen is a very confident person, but her sister Admiral Hipper is more tsun. This makes sense because Prinz Eugen has had a lot of combat experience, and is therefore not easily impressed anymore, but Admiral Hipper is quite unknown in comparison to other ships, even though she ultimately was more succesful than most German warships. This adds a level of insecurity which makes her snap at times, especially when she is being teased.
before I return to the salt mines, the PH has 8 torps not 16, the upgraded hull has the 105s over over the 88s, and is 4 knots slower than Gneisenau (that has 6 torps), not to mention the tier 4 cvs the got drug into a tier 7 fight by being in a division with a tier 5 ship
Not to mention gneisenau b hull has a homogenous 128mm secondary battery not a mixed 152 105
I just love that side commentary from that DD expert.
She really know her stuff unlike a certain naval gnome I've seen around on TH-cam.
Heinrich? 12 torpedoes? The old man never ceases to amaze. And then about 10 minutes later it has 16 torps?! Oh dear, he forgot his meds again.
No, schliffen is what he was speaking of.
A tiny part of me cries a little bit every time I see HMS Hood blown up by a German ship again
I’ve done this with the Amagi if that makes you feel better?
Don't be sad, the Hood sailed around the world and had a glorious life and went out with a bang, pun intended.
Got what she deserved after Mers El Kabir. All she got is Karma.
I've never heard the phrase "face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle" before and it made me choke on my breakfast.
5:50
Do note, on the B-hull the Prinz Heinrich upgrades the 88mm-Mounts to 105mm mounts
And it only has 1x4 torps each side...not the 6 a side he claimed all the time.
Jingles: *Uploaded 8 minutes ago*
Me: *"I. AM. SPEED!!!*
I love how he is so mad that it has 12 torps the entire time and doesnt even realize it does not have that many torps lol
So German ships randomly get torpedoes added, but they still haven't given HMS Nelson its actual tubes
Or hood... and they even modelled the doors on hoods hull
@@bushyfromoz8834 Same for Repulse. And the upcoming Canarias even has the *tubes* modeled (since that ship has no doors to cover them, just holes in each side of the hull halfway up from the waterline).
Given that the recently-announced Forrest Sherman gets to have fixed torpedo tubes, the fact that Hood, Repulse, and Canarias all had fixed rather than traversing tubes is no longer an excuse. That type of tube is now acceptable, so they should be implemented on the ships that had them.
For Nelson, it's a little different since she had underwater torpedo tubes. But those are now part of World of Warships as well, since submarines exist. So yes, Nelson should get her 622mm torps. (Don't get too excited about their size, though. The British 24.5" torpedo had the same warhead size as the standard 21". They just had longer range.)
@@RedXlV agree on all counts my man 😉
I suppose the reason they didn't is because 90% of lower tier battleships would have torpedoes, it was only really in ww2 were they realised battleships weren't ever really gonna get to use them and started to take them off
Jingles: the Mogador ? That destroyer was a handful to maneuver compared with Dunkerque.
It was very hard keeping position in an formation together with the battleship.
In WoWS - that trouble is invisible So is the systematic troubles in the Le Fantasque ship - failed electrics while maneuvering and shooting....
"A face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle"...... First time I have ever heard anything like that. I love it. Now I just need to find a way to work that into a conversation during Christmas dinner......
Derflinger a fine German ship that shot at those lovely firework boats of the royal navy at Jutland
Derflinger a fine German ship, most famous for decorating the seabed at Scapa Flow
and her sister, while getting a spectacular victory over the oldest of those fireworks boats, also was mortally wounded by said firework boat
And the next day those same 'firework boats' were still at sea looking for a fight while the "mighty" German ships were running for home, too terrified to continue the battle.
Derrflinger had a particularly stubborn machine spirit.
The royal navy is that one kid in the pay to win game who maintains his ranking by continually swiping his credit card while everyone else is dependent on skill
This is the 5th time I feel asleep watching your videos on my phone.
Whats funny is that I still hear you commentary and laugh whenever you laugh 😂
Am I going crazy, or is Jingles going crazy? From what I've count every time he dumped torps, the Heinrich has 4 Torps per launcher, 1 launcher per side for a total of 8 torps.
Where are the other 4 torps, when Jingles talks about 12 Torps?
you are not alone in being confused. Maybe its just a deliberate 'mistake' to get us to comment about it, feed the algorithm ^^
Fools, you fell for his trap!
@ Jack Sparrow
Got you to comment on this video didn't it?.
Who's the one that's crap again?.
As per usual he's making shit up, and he complains about WG? :/
Jingles is shit like that.
No, i am not being mean.
He admits it.
His captain in WOWs gives wrong information as well BECAUSE HE IS SO SHIT AT IT!
starting from 12:45 that has to one of the best lines you ever dumped on us in one of your vid's Jingles. I was literally crying because I was laughing so hard. Love your work. keep it up
Bless you for the laugh this early in the morning (Bulldog & nettles). I hardly play wows anymore but your ability to make me laugh will keep coming back for years. Time to donate again. You are definately content worth paying for.
You must be easily entertained.
Happy new year. Nice to hear your voices
Jingles you kill my head, I could listen to you all day long . . .
Jingles you are a God for making the max brooks reverence!!!! I've beein crying about that since the bloody movie came out
Got to love some jingles in the morning.
Jingles is gonna carry me so hard through the school holidays
4:40 Prinz Heinreich has 8 torps, just like the Z-31. They just reload 10 seconds faster
SMS Mackensen and SMS Graf Spee (2nd ship of the class) were actually launched. Prinz Heinrich is a ship of the "Ersatz Yorck" class (literally "replace Yorck" class - SMS Yorck an armoured cruiser was lost during the war) basically a Mackensen class ship sporting 38cm guns.
Jingles, that WAS tier 4 CV... poor planes
That’s rough MM for T4 CVs lol.
According to my copy of Jane's the Sharnhorst class was in fact a battle cruiser with 11" guns. I also remember my father who was in the navy during the war talking about them as battle cruisers.
Thanks Jingles!
World of Warships
The Juggernaught Episode
By
Rear Admiral Giggles
Rear Admiral Babbles
Rear Admiral Obvious
Jingles never change keep those videos coming.
You mean "Yiggles."
No he is a giggler, a babbler, states the obvious and also repeats himself constantly. That's just Jingles being Jingles hope he never stops....lol.
1:50 ... just to figure this out, the Prinz Heinrich is the Ersatz Yorck class with a bunch of fictional WW2 modernization upgrades ... and btw, the work on "Ersatz Yorck" began with her keel laying in July 1916 under yard number 63, and the midship section of the hull had been assembled by the time the ships were redesigned. The ship never was finished by the same reasons the Mackensen class never was finished...
So right about wwz. And one of the battles in book took place on saw mill river parkway in ny where I’m from. Haven’t read the book but heard bout it and will get it on audible. And am loving german battle cruisers
Jingles in rare form for this one! Too right!
Our boy Jurgernaut torping his teammates 24/7
Happens a lot more nowadays, since they removed team damage
God Jingles rarely if ever curses, but it is too fckin funny when he does.
Thanks Jingles.
And at Tier 13 we have the Unobtainium, which was a napkin sketch that was thrown in the trash at a pub in Cornwall and later recovered by the cousin of the Duke of Edinburgh during a dumpster dive after a late night of drinking with a dozen Scotsman from a rugby team.
Anyone else hit like then watch the video because it's jingles?
Now your just making shit up!!!! Love it!!
Love the Heinrich. I love most of this line of boats. I want the Schlieff though.
That's hilarious. I watched WWZ before I read the book, and when I read it later I kept checking the front page to make sure it really was the same title lol.
The prinz is a ship that is actually based off of designs for a next generation battle cruiser called the ersatz York class, and the mackensen class had been built pretty far, to the point that the hull had been put into the water.
Jingles, Good Morning, please don’t add any salt to your eggs because you hilariously were giving it to WoW! Happy Holidays to you…TVB, Bill
10:17 *Jingles says the russian tier 4 carrier is a tier 6*
us: oh jingles you old fool
"A face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle" - beautiful!
My cat, Peepers, is a smart ass too. She’s always stickin it to me with her cutting remarks.
The Prinz Heinrich (actually it should be the Ersatz Yorck class) was designed as as an answer to the 15 inch gunned British ships and was a minor upgrade to the Mackensen class. One was just barely laid down before work was stopped. It was very, very similar in design to the Mackensen but with 15 inch guns vice 14 inch and had only one funnel vice two . As a modified Mackensen, it would have basically the same speed. The Gneisenau was built long afterwards so it makes complete sense that it would be faster. So in a sense, it was a real ship.
Actually Jingles, when when the Wargaming staff are coming up with new ships, they take copies original blueprints and documents, fold them into airplanes and then they roleplay being aircraft carriers like a 3-year old kid would, tossing the blueprint paper aircraft around with reckless abandon. Thus, any idea that comes of this brainstorm session is actually based on real blueprints and documents.
Speaking of making shit up. Imagine a round rotating ammunition storage room with an elevator ammunition hoist in the middle of the ammunition 'Drum'. On that elevator ammunition hoist is the turret mounted with its own rotation mechanism.
That would make the turret rotate twice as fast if the ammunition storage room under it rotated as well.
A round ammunition storage room could deflect shells like a turtleback armor do. It could work.
A rotating ammunition storage room with an offset elevator ammunition hoist with the turret mounted on it could move the rear gun turrets closer to either side of the ship shooting forward.
Also Jingles, on Schlieffen, the max stealth you can get is 12.6 km, the secondary maximum range, is 12.5 km. These ships are *PERFECT* for stealth builds plus the secondaries
This video should have been titled "Serial killer kills helpless little boats for fun "
Prince Heinrich is actually a physical representation of the Ersatz Yorck battlecruiser design. I assume that they think the tech would be upgraded with 20 additional years on them, considering we see the Queen Elizabeth in her 1942 configuration(ish). And all capital ships of the first world War had torpedoes, at least in the grand and high seas fleet.
Hand waving logic aside, that is a interesting contrast between P. Heinrich and Geuniseau
*puts on HMS Splendid cap*
"Actually Jingles, HMS Hood was an example of the eventual convergence of battlecruiser and fast-battleship design, and was commonly called a "fully-armored battlecruiser."
Took a shot every time Jingles says "make shit up" ...
missed the last 5 minutes of the video
10:53 bruh that laugh caught me off guard
Aww, be nice. I love the Moltke! I only bought her to get the the Iron Dog and then the Mackensen, but the Moltke is a lot more fun . . .
Thanks!
Been watching you for 10 years now Jingles, love the content and thanks for all the hard work and amazing content!
Is it just me or do the turrets look hilariously large for the hull? Like, how much space would there be width-wise in the hull with the barbettes taking up most of the space?
German turrets are like that tbf, Bismarck has oversized turrets too
Have you seen the t7 italian battleship? Its worst
Best part of the video: Akizuki making her opinion heard
I think the reason the Prinz Heinrich’s turrets would rotate faster is that it might have more powerful motors in the under decks that can deliver more power to turning the turrets. As an aside, the Gneisenau is pretty much a battle cruiser only thing that even remotely could alter that was giving it different guns than it originally had, but at its heart it is still a battle cruiser
Prinz Heinrich is kind of SMS Ersatz Yorck but... I think dat poor german BC hit by same fate as MN Republique, almost "yes" but in a very drug inspired way.
Nice review Jingles and you sound much like brother Munroe)
Secondary builds are great which is why I love my Agincourt.
Prinz Heinrich is a beast, love that ship.
Actually Jingles, according to Max Brooks, the movie and book have a whole THREE things in common. The name, presence of Zombies and apparently one character (who Max never named)
The Max Brooks WWZ novel was an absolute joy to read and was leaps and bounds better than the movie
I think he forgot that the Mackensen is also like the earlier German BCs over not having torpedoes. Also Prinz Heinrich has 8 tubes total with B hull, not 12 (6 with A hull)
Who are you calling an A Hull??
@@monarols4806 lmao
1:44 Next up US Navy Tier XXL - Tillman Battleships 😂😂
Oh Jingles, that is the Tier IV Carrier the Komsomolets, the Tier VI Soviet CV is the Serov! To be fair Idk what he's doing in a tier VII battle either- yes, yes back to the salt mines I go
The G7 torpedo was also carried by...the Type IX u-boat sitting at Tier 8.
I'm never this early!
I'm never this late.
6:49 Jingles, it's like they heard you ask what their Secondary range is.
I love how Aka tells Jingles when he's wrong. When is the cat taking over the channel?
Akazuki having none of Jingle's bullshit in the background lol
That should be "you're making shit up anyway, where's the *additional* harm".
The "O" and "P" class cruisers is probably where the tier 7-10 probably come from that was in the German PLAN Z pre-WW2 fleet plan
Don't worry Jingles I to am reminded of Jurgen the German from the days of Harry Enfield and Chums
Secondary on the Schlieffen with flag on can reach out to 12.5 km @The Mighty Jingles
Why is it that I've never played this game, but I never miss Jingles' videos about it???
“Steiner scout lance” comes to mind
Quick note on the G7a. There is no duch thing as a G7a T1 Ausf. A. This is bullshit WG made up, as always. And before anyone says anything about other G7a models with different range/speed, the G7a is a single model. There were some very rare G7a models with FaT or LuT pattern running systems, but they had no effect on the range, speed or payload of the torpedo. Fyi, T2 through T5 were G7e, which were only used by U-boats, just as the G7a with FaT or LuT. Surface vessels "just" had the basic G7a, with 280kg warheads and ranges were 12 km (30 kn), 7,5 km (40 kn) and 5 km (44 kn)
Jingles, Aky got her smart assery from you
Man I miss running a full secondary build Georgia just for laughs, and to surprise the shit out of people.
WoT hasn't run out of tanks, it's just that the tanks they can add that actually existed wouldn't be hulldown monsters so they're not going to add them. for example the "Tornvagn" which as far as i know only existed in a single drawing has been added which doesn't even have a proper name because Tornvagn is just another name they use on a few tanks instead of Stridsvagn. Meanwhile a tank developed around the same time that actually had a prototype made, the UDES 19, would have been similar to the torn in turret shape and would have had a unique playstyle but it wouldn't have been hulldown so they just didn't. They just don't want to put effort in anymore
Genisenau actually has good pen on its AP unlike the Heinrich, so they are pretty even in terms of gunpower if you add that factor
No one gonna talk about Henrich’s Y turret no clipping through the superstructure at 0:42
The next money grab will be us designing our own ships.
Listening to this late, I have to point out that there was ONE character in both the book and movie World War Z - the Israeli intel analyst Brad Pitt talks to right before the zombies start ramping up the walls.
Turret rotation speed has been one of WG's "soft stats" used for balancing for a long time. Another recent example is HMS Repulse. Same guns and turrets as HMS Queen Elizabeth and HMS Warspite, but a 30 second 180 time rather than a 60 second 180 time, let alone the original 72 second 180 time of the two QE class BBs.
9:25 "... Prinz Heinrich tends to use them[torpedoes] in close range drive-byes because it's a battlecruiser, so the speed doesn't really matter."
Huh? I think it's the range that doesn't really matter.