In USSR Tal was written (and called) as "Таль". 4th letter means a soft sign. It is not spelled, but makes L "soft". Adds ambiguity to how exactly Agad spells the name of his kid. This is not a name though. Tal's name was Mikhail. It's rather common to give a name of some special person to your kid. Giving a surname (family name) instead of a name looks kind of strange. At least in a country of origin it would be strange for sure. Same as calling a kid Kasparov instead of Garry, for example. That said, who cares, as long as kid grows happy.
Also there was a family fight between Agadmator because he wanted Ivanchuk if not b4, somehow his family convinced him with Tal , but he is still not really happy as you can see 😂
It's kind of poetic how the pieces that were exchanged for the queen sacrifice-- a pawn, a knight, and a bishop-- were all accompanying the king march at the end of this game. :))
Antonio, congrats on the birth of your son! Great to see you are very successful in your chess channel and in your growing family. Best wishes to your wife. CHEERS!
AlphaZero vs. Stockfish was a game changer in 2016. The self training 'neural network' was the way to go. Stockfish 16 is currently learning from around one million games per day. AlphaZero was trained in just nine hours back then.
I really hope "game changer" was a subtle reference to the book that analysed some of the games of that series, by Sadler and Regan, as well as other contributors. I recommend it to anybody interested. Full title, "Game Changer: AlphaZero's Groundbreaking Chess Strategies and the Promise of AI"
@@syjwg Yep, that's the one. It has a really good overview of the approaches of the 2 engines, several (7, from memory) especially notable games with annotations and explanations, and it's all done in a very accessible way. Happy coincidence that you mentioned Game Changer then :)
@@vecter I couldnt get the king mated. But i liked my pieces and their position. Except for the knight. Only better place for knight was the position were the pawn is. So i checked if my opponent can counter a pawn push. I didnt find an easy way for black so i decided: that has to be the engine move. But without the help "think like an engine" i never would play such a move in a game. But when i do, i feel like that legendary uncle
hi i really want to emphasize that i absolutely love seeing these engines fight it out, please do more of these engine games they're so absolutely incredible
A good way to think about chess computer ratings, and just ratings in general is in a log scale. This makes sense since it is a bell curve system. Going up 200 points when you are 2500 is much harder than going up 200 points when u r 1000. It's the same with chess engines, they may only be 1000 points above the top chess players, but this indicates many many times their strength
In CCRL, the opening moves are predetermined, although not necessarily that elaborate. In knockout tournaments, the deeper you go, the longer the predetermination. In the "season games" it depends on the ratings -- the "premier" engines usually get about 8 half-moves that they must play, while the div 4 engines usually only have two. The championship matches are RIDICULOUS. This used to give Leela fits against Stockfish, because Stockfish is opening ambivalent, while Leela trained by playing against herself. Even something as prosaic as the King's Gambit would knock Leela off her game, because it's not an opening she'd ever play, because she just regarded it as bad, so she'd be dumped off in a totally unfamiliar position. In theory, the evaluation is the evaluation and a ResNet is supposed to be able to figure out the compensation and form a likely plan, yadda yadda yadda, but in practice it doesn't work like that. Anyway, for this game, if it's not the Super Final, it's probably a couple of moves a piece and then they're free to fight it out.
20:30 '' ... I do not want to create addicts on this channel ... '' Antonio . I just wanna know what we became after watching your first video ? I really wanna know . Any ideas guys ?
Wow -- the amazing thing is after the sac, there's this long possible variation with an "only move that wins" at the end. It's a chess engine, but it can still blow me away.
13:15 *While i give you a couple of seconds* Okay, i paused the video, finished my lunch, oh my god,,,, stockfish has found millions of ways to defeat me 😂😂😂😂😂
#SUGGESTION Hello Agad. congrats on your son's born. Hope doing well. Before candidates i suggested a game but you had no time to show i think, so I'll be happy if you show that. If it's possible, cover last game ever a GM in a real game could beat computer. I mean Ruslan Ponomariov vs Fritz ( Man vs Machine in Bilbao 2005 ). I don't talk more but blunder by Fritz was strange. 😅 #SUGGESTION
I found that!!! You know why? Because i can't seem to forget that ding's game against nepo. I knew it was time to start checking the king and had to block that only square for the king where all the attack would've fizzled. I imagined the king moving up the board and had to decide between e3 and e4. Tbf, even ding plays this in this position.
That e3 move is very reminiscent of Ding's magical d5 from the last World Championship - a move that looks like it does nothing but actually closes a big-brained mating net.
Probably after taking the rook with the bishop, the white king will have to suffer due to losing his main defender on the queenside, like how the black king suffered the whole game after white's Q×g7+!!
The rook will be lost, but without that bishop on b2, the white king will get attacked easily, black queen will be eyeing that a3 square, the black bishop on g7 dominates the whole diagonal and black's next moves are just a5, b5, a4. The move is playable but white will suffer a lot, so the engine disliked it
4:23 would the rating be higher tho? As the max cap for human players is currently around 2800 to go higher would be a very slow climp without stronger opponents
10:45 I would sac back my Queen in return for white's Knight and Bishop in order to show both Stockfish and Nezhmetdinov they're not the only ones who dare sac their Queens like that
I can totally imagine Ivanchuk finding this ahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I remember the early days of engines thinking that they would be the death of chess, but for me at least, since AZ came along and embarrassed Stockfish, including with several immortal style games, I've been pretty amazed and regularly make time to check out engine games. Once the queen sac is played it does look somewhat thematic, with blacks responses almost forced to avoid windmills and nasty exchanges, and then precision wins out. That said, I really don't think even many super GMs would play that. Nez's sack on f6 was similarly beautiful and unexpected, so perhaps such things aren't totally beyond humans, but yeah, this game is beautiful, and you have to say if a human did play that, it would literally be discussed a century later.
17:40 "..This (up till now) was the part of the game I really wanted to show you.." Capablanca will take over now proceedings to convert this into a point..
10:45 I would sac back my Queen here as black in order to show both Stockfish and Nezhmetdinov that they're not the only ones who dare sac their Queens like that.
Wow what a crispy Game it is a pleasure to watch these Bots make such Great selection of moves of course only a Bot 🤖 would sacrifice a Queen with the quickness for a mere Bishop and Knight which Stockfish did and followed through with such a precise attack I’ve subscribed to your Brother in-laws channel and will watch the game there as well that’s kind of incredible your Brother in law also being into Chess like yourself in a way Enjoy your Day Much Thanks
Antonio could tell us stories about him going to the post office and buying basic groceries afterwards and we would listen carefully until our last dying days.
can you please explain to us what blitz chess for engines actually means? like they play classical chess and blitz chess?? and how do they decide which moves to spend time on?? it doesn’t make sense to me .. #question #suggestion
I wanted to hear "and it was this position that uh plentychess resigned the game, as there is nothing more to be done here" 🤣 you knew it would be decisive tho man that was crazy, thanks for this
Antonio, you named your kid Tal!? Congratulations. If that isn't love for the magician from Riga I don't know what is.
Yes! it wasn't my suggestion, though
@@agadmator Yes I am sure it wasn't your suggestion good sir. We all know it was the boy's suggestion.
@@agadmator Was your suggestion b4?! ;-)
In USSR Tal was written (and called) as "Таль". 4th letter means a soft sign. It is not spelled, but makes L "soft". Adds ambiguity to how exactly Agad spells the name of his kid.
This is not a name though. Tal's name was Mikhail. It's rather common to give a name of some special person to your kid. Giving a surname (family name) instead of a name looks kind of strange. At least in a country of origin it would be strange for sure. Same as calling a kid Kasparov instead of Garry, for example.
That said, who cares, as long as kid grows happy.
T-Gad ? Tal-ent?
True story, Agad's choice of his babies name was "B4". then his family showed why its not winning at that moment and Tal was agreed upon 😂
Also there was a family fight between Agadmator because he wanted Ivanchuk if not b4, somehow his family convinced him with Tal , but he is still not really happy as you can see 😂
No, agad suggested b4 but Tal was a much stronger recommendation by his good friend Engine so Agad had to listen to it
And it is here, as of child #3, that we have a completely new name!
@@arkzbh but to go against the family's wishes would threaten some really nasty discoveries, so Agadmator decided to agree to a draw here
I think “ castles castles “ was also an option that didn’t make the cut either! 😂
It's kind of poetic how the pieces that were exchanged for the queen sacrifice-- a pawn, a knight, and a bishop-- were all accompanying the king march at the end of this game. :))
You have a unique way to view the world.
10:30 - "It's not just to capture a pawn, it's to force resignation" Agad being iconic as always
Yeah, I mean engines don't resign but...still
I deeply respect the level of acknowledgement you put into your source. Cheers Jozarov - thanks for hooking us all up!
Comrade 'Zarov is under-appreciated
@@davidschneide5422"beautiful beautiful"
The queen sac and that e3 move was incredible.
Meanwhile Ding: D5!
Agad had me hype for this video while watching yesterday's Bobby Fischer vid. Agad did not disappoint.
He never does
That Ivanchuk was on spot! :D
9:17 the way agad says "that's disgusting" always cracks me up... especially this one is just spot on
The addicts line was awesome
"try to figure out what a 3800 rated engine played here" good thing I can pause the video
I remember you describing the child running to chernikov while he was taking a stroll and telling him, 'master he sacrificed his queen'.
Antonio, congratulations on welcoming your latest into the family! Much love for new baby Tal from all your viewers.
13:35 that punchline is perfect.
Agad really has a problem with my uncle 😅😂😂😂😂
Antonio, congrats on the birth of your son! Great to see you are very successful in your chess channel and in your growing family. Best wishes to your wife. CHEERS!
20:30 - "I don't want to create addicts on this channel" 😂 Nice one, Agat, but too late!
AlphaZero vs. Stockfish was a game changer in 2016. The self training 'neural network' was the way to go. Stockfish 16 is currently learning from around one million games per day. AlphaZero was trained in just nine hours back then.
I really hope "game changer" was a subtle reference to the book that analysed some of the games of that series, by Sadler and Regan, as well as other contributors. I recommend it to anybody interested. Full title, "Game Changer: AlphaZero's Groundbreaking Chess Strategies and the Promise of AI"
@Bosshog-WealthHealthBetterment I've not heard about that book, but it surely looks interesting. Published in 2019.
@@syjwg Yep, that's the one.
It has a really good overview of the approaches of the 2 engines, several (7, from memory) especially notable games with annotations and explanations, and it's all done in a very accessible way.
Happy coincidence that you mentioned Game Changer then :)
The old Stockfish was only 3400
Never have i been more proud to solve a critical moment in the game than right now. I feel like that uncle that has his moment once in a year^^
How in heaven's name did you find e3?
@@vecter His brother has a kid and he sucks at chess I guess
@@vecter
I couldnt get the king mated. But i liked my pieces and their position. Except for the knight. Only better place for knight was the position were the pawn is. So i checked if my opponent can counter a pawn push. I didnt find an easy way for black so i decided: that has to be the engine move.
But without the help "think like an engine" i never would play such a move in a game. But when i do, i feel like that legendary uncle
agadmator: but I don't want to create any addicts😏
me: *watching Antonio for years*😭
"I don't want to create addicts on this channel" lol you are too late sir, i get my daily dose of chess from this channel!
hi i really want to emphasize that i absolutely love seeing these engines fight it out, please do more of these engine games they're so absolutely incredible
Congrats Agadmator! Had no idea you even had a second on the way... Great choice of name!
A good way to think about chess computer ratings, and just ratings in general is in a log scale. This makes sense since it is a bell curve system. Going up 200 points when you are 2500 is much harder than going up 200 points when u r 1000. It's the same with chess engines, they may only be 1000 points above the top chess players, but this indicates many many times their strength
In 4 years, when small Agad learn chess, Agad: "And it was as of move 1 that we have a completely new game."
He has to learn b4 first 😉
@@arkzbhi see what you did there 🤭
Love you agad , you are the reason i started playing chess , u changed my perspective about the beautiful game
Good game. Both the Black and White sides played with engine like precision!
I go to a library to study, my friends at the library are going to learn about this game soon, good sir! 🥂
Thank you for showing this game! Stockfish's tactics with pawn to g4 were especially incredible!
This is how I started watching this channel. I saw alpha zero immortal vs stockfish 6 years ago and had seen every video since
Congratulations Toni! Sending love and all the good stuff to you and Jelena... ❤🎉🍾
In CCRL, the opening moves are predetermined, although not necessarily that elaborate. In knockout tournaments, the deeper you go, the longer the predetermination. In the "season games" it depends on the ratings -- the "premier" engines usually get about 8 half-moves that they must play, while the div 4 engines usually only have two.
The championship matches are RIDICULOUS. This used to give Leela fits against Stockfish, because Stockfish is opening ambivalent, while Leela trained by playing against herself. Even something as prosaic as the King's Gambit would knock Leela off her game, because it's not an opening she'd ever play, because she just regarded it as bad, so she'd be dumped off in a totally unfamiliar position. In theory, the evaluation is the evaluation and a ResNet is supposed to be able to figure out the compensation and form a likely plan, yadda yadda yadda, but in practice it doesn't work like that.
Anyway, for this game, if it's not the Super Final, it's probably a couple of moves a piece and then they're free to fight it out.
Props to naming your son after a great man! He really deserves it and I hope he will honour it! ❤
For a moment, I was afraid you called your kid Stockfish...😂
congratulations on welcoming your son into the world man. my son is turning 17 this year… we are getting old, Tony!
Cestitamo rodjenje sina. Nek je ziv i zdrav.
20:30 '' ... I do not want to create addicts on this channel ... '' Antonio . I just wanna know what we became after watching your first video ? I really wanna know . Any ideas guys ?
19:00 imagine if this position ended up with a bishop and knight only, that would be really a great one.
11:39 - eh, why not just move the black bishop?
Wow -- the amazing thing is after the sac, there's this long possible variation with an "only move that wins" at the end. It's a chess engine, but it can still blow me away.
12:27 stockfish gulping a pawn as the hungry greedy monster he is
13:15
*While i give you a couple of seconds*
Okay, i paused the video, finished my lunch, oh my god,,,, stockfish has found millions of ways to defeat me 😂😂😂😂😂
on 19:00, why not rook captures bishop on d4? then it will be only a pawn left which can be drawn, right?
Agadmator been your greatest fan for the longest time 🇰🇪🇰🇪❤
#SUGGESTION Hello Agad. congrats on your son's born. Hope doing well.
Before candidates i suggested a game but you had no time to show i think, so I'll be happy if you show that. If it's possible, cover last game ever a GM in a real game could beat computer. I mean Ruslan Ponomariov vs Fritz ( Man vs Machine in Bilbao 2005 ). I don't talk more but blunder by Fritz was strange. 😅 #SUGGESTION
At minute 9:07 why is black bishop on C8 not taking pawn on g4. Next move should be to move knight on b8 to move to d7 after bishop is moved.
I found that!!! You know why? Because i can't seem to forget that ding's game against nepo. I knew it was time to start checking the king and had to block that only square for the king where all the attack would've fizzled. I imagined the king moving up the board and had to decide between e3 and e4. Tbf, even ding plays this in this position.
Around 19:00, PlentyChess could trade rook for pawn and see if Stockfish can mate with bishop and knight.
I first saw on Jasarov's channel, and I love his analysis. Worth checking out. I subscribe to both of your channels. Amazing game.
Good to see your videos again man.
Congratulations on the arrival of your son Antonio. Let us hope he will be a TALented player like his dad.
You named your baby Tal, what a fan you are!!! Awesome.
That e3 move is very reminiscent of Ding's magical d5 from the last World Championship - a move that looks like it does nothing but actually closes a big-brained mating net.
I love engine games, please keep showing them!
6:38 - Why doesn't Stockfish play Ba3? The rook is trapped isn't it? What have I missed?
Probably after taking the rook with the bishop, the white king will have to suffer due to losing his main defender on the queenside, like how the black king suffered the whole game after white's Q×g7+!!
These computer games are incredible. The value the engine places on active pieces v inactive pieces is fascinating.
More engine games!
All hail our Stockfish overlord
Baby Tal!! You made my day.
This e3 move by stockfish reminded me of this d5 played by Ding in WCC vs nepo. The way he saw the mating net before everyone was amazing
Yes exactly! Same!!! That's how i found it too. Damn i can't get that game out of my head
Need more Engine Games, it's really Crazy
Why not bishop a3 at 7:00 ?
I dont see how the rock can be defended.
The rook will be lost, but without that bishop on b2, the white king will get attacked easily, black queen will be eyeing that a3 square, the black bishop on g7 dominates the whole diagonal and black's next moves are just a5, b5, a4. The move is playable but white will suffer a lot, so the engine disliked it
The build up for this video is probably the greatest since the end of Batman Begins.
Congratulations!!!
Congrats to you and your family. Baby Tal!
4:23 would the rating be higher tho? As the max cap for human players is currently around 2800 to go higher would be a very slow climp without stronger opponents
I love watching your recaps of interesting engine games
"I don't want to create addicts on this channel" 🤣
The pawn push reminds me of Ding s pawn push in the world championship with the queen sac mate
10:45 I would sac back my Queen in return for white's Knight and Bishop in order to show both Stockfish and Nezhmetdinov they're not the only ones who dare sac their Queens like that
At 14:57 why can’t it play rook to h7 and give your queen and rook for 2 rooks ?
I watch all of videos of jozarov's channel It's feel connected after knowing that he is your Brother in Law😍
Dropped my jaw.
That was astonishing!!😮
That was a ham and three quarters! Amazing and addictive
Čestitam! :)
I can totally imagine Ivanchuk finding this ahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I'm not big on chess channels, but you have the best commentary
Im a chess addict. Thanks agad ;)
*Rubs nose* Do you have any more of them Stockfish games Agad?
I remember the early days of engines thinking that they would be the death of chess, but for me at least, since AZ came along and embarrassed Stockfish, including with several immortal style games, I've been pretty amazed and regularly make time to check out engine games.
Once the queen sac is played it does look somewhat thematic, with blacks responses almost forced to avoid windmills and nasty exchanges, and then precision wins out. That said, I really don't think even many super GMs would play that. Nez's sack on f6 was similarly beautiful and unexpected, so perhaps such things aren't totally beyond humans, but yeah, this game is beautiful, and you have to say if a human did play that, it would literally be discussed a century later.
congrats and I wish you and your family all the best.
Too late Antonion, I'm already addicted to your videos!
I had no idea you two are brothers in law and its good to knos :) love his channel and obv yours too agad
Congratulations!
17:40 "..This (up till now) was the part of the game I really wanted to show you.." Capablanca will take over now proceedings to convert this into a point..
10:45 I would sac back my Queen here as black in order to show both Stockfish and Nezhmetdinov that they're not the only ones who dare sac their Queens like that.
Stunning game! Thanks!
I am 28 yrs old from Philippines and I named my son after Carlsen's.
Carlsen is the name.
I'm your supporter on your channel agad.
Happy to find out baby Tal and myself will share the same birthday! ❤
Wow what a crispy Game it is a pleasure to watch these Bots make such Great selection of moves of course only a Bot 🤖 would sacrifice a Queen with the quickness for a mere Bishop and Knight which Stockfish did and followed through with such a precise attack I’ve subscribed to your Brother in-laws channel and will watch the game there as well that’s kind of incredible your Brother in law also being into Chess like yourself in a way Enjoy your Day Much Thanks
14. Ba3 (Threatening the rook)
What is the name of the start of this white double fortress elephant?
Enjoyed the content!
Rashid nezhmetdinov said he who analysis blitz is stupid
Sir Antonio replied ok lets do it 😂😂 ❤❤
Antonio could tell us stories about him going to the post office and buying basic groceries afterwards and we would listen carefully until our last dying days.
can you please explain to us what blitz chess for engines actually means? like they play classical chess and blitz chess?? and how do they decide which moves to spend time on?? it doesn’t make sense to me .. #question #suggestion
can someone explain how they calculate rating for engines?
I wanted to hear "and it was this position that uh plentychess resigned the game, as there is nothing more to be done here" 🤣 you knew it would be decisive tho man that was crazy, thanks for this
Wow, sacrificing the queen for 2 pieces, Stockfish is such a Chad 🗿🔥
game starts at 4:26
Congratulations, Antonio!
Can some one enlighten me, what is the use of reaching 3740 enginer ratings?
Can any one please explain to me what is the relation between the previous game of fischer and this one